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        <description>Bill Wilson, co-founder of Alcoholic&#039;s Anonymous, wrote in 1952, &quot;If we examine every disturbance we have, great or small, we will find at the root some unhealthy dependence and its consequent demand.&quot; Wilson suggested that if we could identify and continually surrender these unrealistic and unrecognizable demands, that we may then be able to accomplish what he imagined to be recovery&#039;s next frontier - something he called emotional sobriety.
 
Flash forward 70 years, and join psychotherapists and best-selling authors Thom Rutledge and Dr. Allen Berger, who have taken up the mantle of exploring Bill Wilson&#039;s new frontier. Welcome to Emotional Sobriety.</description>
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                <itunes:subtitle>Bill Wilson, co-founder of Alcoholic&#039;s Anonymous, wrote in 1952, &quot;If we examine every disturbance we have, great or small, we will find at the root some unhealthy dependence and its consequent demand.&quot; Wilson suggested that if we could identify and continually surrender these unrealistic and unrecognizable demands, that we may then be able to accomplish what he imagined to be recovery&#039;s next frontier - something he called emotional sobriety.
 
Flash forward 70 years, and join psychotherapists and best-selling authors Thom Rutledge and Dr. Allen Berger, who have taken up the mantle of exploring Bill Wilson&#039;s new frontier. Welcome to Emotional Sobriety.</itunes:subtitle>
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Flash forward 70 years, and join psychotherapists and best-selling authors Thom Rutledge and Dr. Allen Berger, who have taken up the mantle of exploring Bill Wilson&#039;s new frontier. Welcome to Emotional Sobriety.</itunes:summary>
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                    <![CDATA[Disappointments Are Not Obstacles]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell:</b></p>
<p><b>“</b>Life is a wonderful blessing, with many great disappointments. Can you see disappointment as a gift?”</p>
<p>In emotional sobriety, we attempt to believe that we are here to learn from whatever we are given, which Thom calls “positive opportunism.” How can we use what disappoints us to become a better person? How can we use it to be productive? Acting “as if” this was the plan all along can help us through.  If we appreciate the true nature of things, we’re free from expectations about how they’re “supposed to” be.</p>
<p>Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at <a href="http://jeffersonross.com">jeffersonross.com</a></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Coming soon: Sobriety for Superman</li><li>(00:01:01) - Enjoying the Feedback From Our Podcast</li><li>(00:01:41) - Tom's nutshell for the week: Life is a Wonderful Blessing with</li><li>(00:03:21) - Nothing in the Universe Happens By Mistake</li><li>(00:08:53) - Exploring Emotional Sobriety</li><li>(00:12:43) - Acceptance of Realities</li><li>(00:17:36) - The Reef: How to Love Your Wife</li><li>(00:23:10) - Lessons from Working With a Sick Brain</li><li>(00:26:09) - Does Anyone Really Hate Himself?</li><li>(00:26:38) - Tom on Disappointments</li><li>(00:31:49) - Tom Cruise in '</li><li>(00:32:18) - Jefferson Ross</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell:
“Life is a wonderful blessing, with many great disappointments. Can you see disappointment as a gift?”
In emotional sobriety, we attempt to believe that we are here to learn from whatever we are given, which Thom calls “positive opportunism.” How can we use what disappoints us to become a better person? How can we use it to be productive? Acting “as if” this was the plan all along can help us through.  If we appreciate the true nature of things, we’re free from expectations about how they’re “supposed to” be.
Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at jeffersonross.com
Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell:</b></p>
<p><b>“</b>Life is a wonderful blessing, with many great disappointments. Can you see disappointment as a gift?”</p>
<p>In emotional sobriety, we attempt to believe that we are here to learn from whatever we are given, which Thom calls “positive opportunism.” How can we use what disappoints us to become a better person? How can we use it to be productive? Acting “as if” this was the plan all along can help us through.  If we appreciate the true nature of things, we’re free from expectations about how they’re “supposed to” be.</p>
<p>Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at <a href="http://jeffersonross.com">jeffersonross.com</a></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell:
“Life is a wonderful blessing, with many great disappointments. Can you see disappointment as a gift?”
In emotional sobriety, we attempt to believe that we are here to learn from whatever we are given, which Thom calls “positive opportunism.” How can we use what disappoints us to become a better person? How can we use it to be productive? Acting “as if” this was the plan all along can help us through.  If we appreciate the true nature of things, we’re free from expectations about how they’re “supposed to” be.
Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at jeffersonross.com
Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Anger is Just Another Feeling]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2026 18:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell:</b></p>
<p><em>One of emotional sobriety's greatest challenges is for us to understand and accept our contribution to our own distress without becoming distracted by self-condemnation.</em></p>
<p>Shame and humility are not the same thing. One of the first levels of self-acceptance is an utter refusal to be in an adversarial relationship with ourselves. When we take ownership over our own existence, there’s nowhere left to hide. In this episode, Allen and Thom touch on the notion of writing an apology letter to our bodies for the way we’ve disregarded them - a practice that will further our journey towards wholeness.</p>
<p>Behind anger is pain. If we keep yelling about what’s bothering us, behind the rage are usually tears. In dealing with anger, we continue trying to live in the space between a stimulus and a response, which widens as we continue to practice emotional sobriety and maintain alignment with reality.</p>
<p>Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at <a href="http://jeffersonross.com">jeffersonross.com</a></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a>  </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:07) - Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery</li><li>(00:03:31) - Responsibility for One's Life</li><li>(00:09:59) - Tom Brokaw on His Own Body</li><li>(00:13:47) - Separation and the Authentic Me</li><li>(00:14:01) - Angry Feelings and Emotional Sobriety</li><li>(00:17:18) - The Anger of Alcoholics</li><li>(00:21:31) - The Anger of Relationships</li><li>(00:26:01) - Alan on Being a Codependent</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell:
One of emotional sobriety's greatest challenges is for us to understand and accept our contribution to our own distress without becoming distracted by self-condemnation.
Shame and humility are not the same thing. One of the first levels of self-acceptance is an utter refusal to be in an adversarial relationship with ourselves. When we take ownership over our own existence, there’s nowhere left to hide. In this episode, Allen and Thom touch on the notion of writing an apology letter to our bodies for the way we’ve disregarded them - a practice that will further our journey towards wholeness.
Behind anger is pain. If we keep yelling about what’s bothering us, behind the rage are usually tears. In dealing with anger, we continue trying to live in the space between a stimulus and a response, which widens as we continue to practice emotional sobriety and maintain alignment with reality.
Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at jeffersonross.com
Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info
Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com  
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell:</b></p>
<p><em>One of emotional sobriety's greatest challenges is for us to understand and accept our contribution to our own distress without becoming distracted by self-condemnation.</em></p>
<p>Shame and humility are not the same thing. One of the first levels of self-acceptance is an utter refusal to be in an adversarial relationship with ourselves. When we take ownership over our own existence, there’s nowhere left to hide. In this episode, Allen and Thom touch on the notion of writing an apology letter to our bodies for the way we’ve disregarded them - a practice that will further our journey towards wholeness.</p>
<p>Behind anger is pain. If we keep yelling about what’s bothering us, behind the rage are usually tears. In dealing with anger, we continue trying to live in the space between a stimulus and a response, which widens as we continue to practice emotional sobriety and maintain alignment with reality.</p>
<p>Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at <a href="http://jeffersonross.com">jeffersonross.com</a></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a>  </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell:
One of emotional sobriety's greatest challenges is for us to understand and accept our contribution to our own distress without becoming distracted by self-condemnation.
Shame and humility are not the same thing. One of the first levels of self-acceptance is an utter refusal to be in an adversarial relationship with ourselves. When we take ownership over our own existence, there’s nowhere left to hide. In this episode, Allen and Thom touch on the notion of writing an apology letter to our bodies for the way we’ve disregarded them - a practice that will further our journey towards wholeness.
Behind anger is pain. If we keep yelling about what’s bothering us, behind the rage are usually tears. In dealing with anger, we continue trying to live in the space between a stimulus and a response, which widens as we continue to practice emotional sobriety and maintain alignment with reality.
Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at jeffersonross.com
Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info
Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com  
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Moving Forward After Relapse, Part Two]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 00:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell:</b></p>
<p>Rigorous honesty begins at home.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Joe C. joins us to discuss the ways relapse is experienced by the loved ones of the relapser, and how we can think about these distressing events differently. The universe isn’t guided by structure and order alone. There’s chaos as well. We have influence, but not control, and with emotional sobriety we can more clearly see that distinction.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Thank you for listening to our podcast. Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at <a href="http://jeffersonross.com"><b>jeffersonross.com</b></a><b> </b><b></b></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Emotional Sobriety</li><li>(00:06:56) - In the Elevator With George Clooney</li><li>(00:07:58) - What is Truth in Sobriety?</li><li>(00:11:49) - Risk of Absurdity</li><li>(00:14:56) - In the Elevator With an Alcoholic</li><li>(00:17:17) - Al Anon on Rejection and Recovery</li><li>(00:26:12) - Sam and Joe: Emotional Sobriety</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell:
Rigorous honesty begins at home.

Joe C. joins us to discuss the ways relapse is experienced by the loved ones of the relapser, and how we can think about these distressing events differently. The universe isn’t guided by structure and order alone. There’s chaos as well. We have influence, but not control, and with emotional sobriety we can more clearly see that distinction.

Thank you for listening to our podcast. Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at jeffersonross.com 

Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell:</b></p>
<p>Rigorous honesty begins at home.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Joe C. joins us to discuss the ways relapse is experienced by the loved ones of the relapser, and how we can think about these distressing events differently. The universe isn’t guided by structure and order alone. There’s chaos as well. We have influence, but not control, and with emotional sobriety we can more clearly see that distinction.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Thank you for listening to our podcast. Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at <a href="http://jeffersonross.com"><b>jeffersonross.com</b></a><b> </b><b></b></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell:
Rigorous honesty begins at home.

Joe C. joins us to discuss the ways relapse is experienced by the loved ones of the relapser, and how we can think about these distressing events differently. The universe isn’t guided by structure and order alone. There’s chaos as well. We have influence, but not control, and with emotional sobriety we can more clearly see that distinction.

Thank you for listening to our podcast. Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at jeffersonross.com 

Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Moving Forward After Relapse, Part One]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2026 21:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell:</b></p>
<p><b>“You cannot work both sides of the serenity prayer. Choose. Commit.”</b></p>
<p></p>
<p>Emotional sobriety is about moving forward. The key to unlocking long term recovery is learning to support ourselves internally by organizing our experience to deal with the struggle. To move through and out of relapse, we can’t collapse into a pile of “shoulds.” Relapse occurs for addicts when they haven’t accepted at an unconscious level that they are powerless. In acceptance we begin to take back our power.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Our love and prayers go out to all victims of the wars raging across the entire world.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Working the Serenity Prayer: The Next Step in Recovery</li><li>(00:04:32) - A Couple's Humility in Recovery</li><li>(00:09:44) - "Self-Esteem Is Not an All or None"</li><li>(00:11:13) - How to Talk to Someone Who Relapsed</li><li>(00:15:33) - The Recovery Decision</li><li>(00:20:02) - What's the Cause of Early Recovery?</li><li>(00:22:38) - Tom: Self-Love</li><li>(00:28:03) - A shout out to our military personnel</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell:
“You cannot work both sides of the serenity prayer. Choose. Commit.”

Emotional sobriety is about moving forward. The key to unlocking long term recovery is learning to support ourselves internally by organizing our experience to deal with the struggle. To move through and out of relapse, we can’t collapse into a pile of “shoulds.” Relapse occurs for addicts when they haven’t accepted at an unconscious level that they are powerless. In acceptance we begin to take back our power.

Our love and prayers go out to all victims of the wars raging across the entire world.

Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell:</b></p>
<p><b>“You cannot work both sides of the serenity prayer. Choose. Commit.”</b></p>
<p></p>
<p>Emotional sobriety is about moving forward. The key to unlocking long term recovery is learning to support ourselves internally by organizing our experience to deal with the struggle. To move through and out of relapse, we can’t collapse into a pile of “shoulds.” Relapse occurs for addicts when they haven’t accepted at an unconscious level that they are powerless. In acceptance we begin to take back our power.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Our love and prayers go out to all victims of the wars raging across the entire world.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell:
“You cannot work both sides of the serenity prayer. Choose. Commit.”

Emotional sobriety is about moving forward. The key to unlocking long term recovery is learning to support ourselves internally by organizing our experience to deal with the struggle. To move through and out of relapse, we can’t collapse into a pile of “shoulds.” Relapse occurs for addicts when they haven’t accepted at an unconscious level that they are powerless. In acceptance we begin to take back our power.

Our love and prayers go out to all victims of the wars raging across the entire world.

Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Adjustments at Close Range]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>Thom’s Nutshell Wisdom:</p>
<p><b>“Practice conversations to convey rather than convince.”</b><b></b></p>
<p>Healthy Conversation is “present-centered.” In a healthy conversation, we don’t need to know exactly what we’re trying to convey. With defenses down, we learn more. How much “we,” and how much “I” can we include in any relationship? How can we get on the same side of the problem?</p>
<p>Anxiety is at the root of why we do this. We feel threatened so we feel a compulsion to manipulate someone into our point of view. The first step of dismantling this is awareness that its happening. Then we “befriend our experience,” which we derive from the work of Nathaniel Branden.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Talking to Yourself</li><li>(00:03:54) - John Ammodeo on Self-Acceptance</li><li>(00:08:17) - Talking to Your Partner</li><li>(00:12:03) - Getting On the Same Side of the Problem</li><li>(00:18:20) - The Importance of Negotiation in a Mixed Relationship</li><li>(00:21:10) - Tom Petty on His Relationship With Deedee</li><li>(00:24:13) - I Had A Complaint About My AA Friend</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell Wisdom:
“Practice conversations to convey rather than convince.”
Healthy Conversation is “present-centered.” In a healthy conversation, we don’t need to know exactly what we’re trying to convey. With defenses down, we learn more. How much “we,” and how much “I” can we include in any relationship? How can we get on the same side of the problem?
Anxiety is at the root of why we do this. We feel threatened so we feel a compulsion to manipulate someone into our point of view. The first step of dismantling this is awareness that its happening. Then we “befriend our experience,” which we derive from the work of Nathaniel Branden.

Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Adjustments at Close Range]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Thom’s Nutshell Wisdom:</p>
<p><b>“Practice conversations to convey rather than convince.”</b><b></b></p>
<p>Healthy Conversation is “present-centered.” In a healthy conversation, we don’t need to know exactly what we’re trying to convey. With defenses down, we learn more. How much “we,” and how much “I” can we include in any relationship? How can we get on the same side of the problem?</p>
<p>Anxiety is at the root of why we do this. We feel threatened so we feel a compulsion to manipulate someone into our point of view. The first step of dismantling this is awareness that its happening. Then we “befriend our experience,” which we derive from the work of Nathaniel Branden.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell Wisdom:
“Practice conversations to convey rather than convince.”
Healthy Conversation is “present-centered.” In a healthy conversation, we don’t need to know exactly what we’re trying to convey. With defenses down, we learn more. How much “we,” and how much “I” can we include in any relationship? How can we get on the same side of the problem?
Anxiety is at the root of why we do this. We feel threatened so we feel a compulsion to manipulate someone into our point of view. The first step of dismantling this is awareness that its happening. Then we “befriend our experience,” which we derive from the work of Nathaniel Branden.

Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“The Power of Gentle Presence” with John Amodeo]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 19:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>Former guest and longtime friend John Amodeo joins Allen and Thom to advocate “gentle presence” 9 making ourselves available to the full range of what we’re experiencing in the moment, whether pleasure and pain. People are afraid of their emotions - “If I start crying, when will I stop?” The greater danger, in our experience, is the suppression of emotion. We also touch on processing failure and mistakes, cautioning against blame. When we get stuck in blame, we don’t learn and grow from our experiences.</p>
<p><b></b></p>
<p><b>Buy John’s new book, </b><b><i>The Power of Gentle Presence: Insights for Inner Peace &amp; Deeper Relationships</i></b><b> here: </b></p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G1HLNFV5">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G1HLNFV5</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:07) - Emotional Sobriety with Dr. John Ammodeo</li><li>(00:01:21) - John Feist in Personal Growth</li><li>(00:06:42) - Exploring Boundaries</li><li>(00:11:32) - Boundaries of Personal Experience</li><li>(00:15:33) - John on Self-Acceptance</li><li>(00:20:36) - What is Healthy Shame?</li><li>(00:21:47) - The Importance of Gentle Presence</li><li>(00:26:31) - Goodbye, Emotional Sobriety</li><li>(00:27:33) - John and Alan on The Three Pillars of Love</li><li>(00:32:01) - Emotional Sobriety and Relationships</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Former guest and longtime friend John Amodeo joins Allen and Thom to advocate “gentle presence” 9 making ourselves available to the full range of what we’re experiencing in the moment, whether pleasure and pain. People are afraid of their emotions - “If I start crying, when will I stop?” The greater danger, in our experience, is the suppression of emotion. We also touch on processing failure and mistakes, cautioning against blame. When we get stuck in blame, we don’t learn and grow from our experiences.

Buy John’s new book, The Power of Gentle Presence: Insights for Inner Peace & Deeper Relationships here: 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G1HLNFV5

Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“The Power of Gentle Presence” with John Amodeo]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Former guest and longtime friend John Amodeo joins Allen and Thom to advocate “gentle presence” 9 making ourselves available to the full range of what we’re experiencing in the moment, whether pleasure and pain. People are afraid of their emotions - “If I start crying, when will I stop?” The greater danger, in our experience, is the suppression of emotion. We also touch on processing failure and mistakes, cautioning against blame. When we get stuck in blame, we don’t learn and grow from our experiences.</p>
<p><b></b></p>
<p><b>Buy John’s new book, </b><b><i>The Power of Gentle Presence: Insights for Inner Peace &amp; Deeper Relationships</i></b><b> here: </b></p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G1HLNFV5">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G1HLNFV5</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Visit our website:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.emotionalsobriety.info">www.emotionalsobriety.info</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Former guest and longtime friend John Amodeo joins Allen and Thom to advocate “gentle presence” 9 making ourselves available to the full range of what we’re experiencing in the moment, whether pleasure and pain. People are afraid of their emotions - “If I start crying, when will I stop?” The greater danger, in our experience, is the suppression of emotion. We also touch on processing failure and mistakes, cautioning against blame. When we get stuck in blame, we don’t learn and grow from our experiences.

Buy John’s new book, The Power of Gentle Presence: Insights for Inner Peace & Deeper Relationships here: 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G1HLNFV5

Visit our website:
www.emotionalsobriety.info

Follow us on social media:
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Whitehat Addictions]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 05:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>Thom checks back in after a long period of freezing weather and system crash in Tennessee, Allen gets honest after recent familial struggles. What makes it difficult for us to own our bad behavior? This week is emotional sobriety through fear and wreckage, demanding cleanup.</p>
<p><b>Thom's Nutshell:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Can you describe <i>how</i> you think as well as you can describe <i>what</i> you think?"</p>
<p>"In The Daily Stoic, Ryan Holiday offers a question that is simple and profound: "Am I in control of this or is this anxiety?" - anxiety being the tell-tale sign that we feel the need to control what we cannot.</p>
<p>When I am experiencing anxiety, then I am wasting valuable energy focusing on what I do not and cannot control. Once I recognize that I am doing this, I shift all of my focus on levitating that chair h with my mind.</p>
<p>This is a good example of focusing on PROCESS rather than CONTENT. Focusing on HOW I am thinking rather than WHAT I am thinking.</p>
<p>These kinds of changes must be radical in order to be effective. You know, simple but far from easy. (And if you move the chair, please let me know.)</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom checks back in after a long period of freezing weather and system crash in Tennessee, Allen gets honest after recent familial struggles. What makes it difficult for us to own our bad behavior? This week is emotional sobriety through fear and wreckage, demanding cleanup.
Thom's Nutshell:
Can you describe how you think as well as you can describe what you think?"
"In The Daily Stoic, Ryan Holiday offers a question that is simple and profound: "Am I in control of this or is this anxiety?" - anxiety being the tell-tale sign that we feel the need to control what we cannot.
When I am experiencing anxiety, then I am wasting valuable energy focusing on what I do not and cannot control. Once I recognize that I am doing this, I shift all of my focus on levitating that chair h with my mind.
This is a good example of focusing on PROCESS rather than CONTENT. Focusing on HOW I am thinking rather than WHAT I am thinking.
These kinds of changes must be radical in order to be effective. You know, simple but far from easy. (And if you move the chair, please let me know.)

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Whitehat Addictions]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Thom checks back in after a long period of freezing weather and system crash in Tennessee, Allen gets honest after recent familial struggles. What makes it difficult for us to own our bad behavior? This week is emotional sobriety through fear and wreckage, demanding cleanup.</p>
<p><b>Thom's Nutshell:</b><b></b></p>
<p>Can you describe <i>how</i> you think as well as you can describe <i>what</i> you think?"</p>
<p>"In The Daily Stoic, Ryan Holiday offers a question that is simple and profound: "Am I in control of this or is this anxiety?" - anxiety being the tell-tale sign that we feel the need to control what we cannot.</p>
<p>When I am experiencing anxiety, then I am wasting valuable energy focusing on what I do not and cannot control. Once I recognize that I am doing this, I shift all of my focus on levitating that chair h with my mind.</p>
<p>This is a good example of focusing on PROCESS rather than CONTENT. Focusing on HOW I am thinking rather than WHAT I am thinking.</p>
<p>These kinds of changes must be radical in order to be effective. You know, simple but far from easy. (And if you move the chair, please let me know.)</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom checks back in after a long period of freezing weather and system crash in Tennessee, Allen gets honest after recent familial struggles. What makes it difficult for us to own our bad behavior? This week is emotional sobriety through fear and wreckage, demanding cleanup.
Thom's Nutshell:
Can you describe how you think as well as you can describe what you think?"
"In The Daily Stoic, Ryan Holiday offers a question that is simple and profound: "Am I in control of this or is this anxiety?" - anxiety being the tell-tale sign that we feel the need to control what we cannot.
When I am experiencing anxiety, then I am wasting valuable energy focusing on what I do not and cannot control. Once I recognize that I am doing this, I shift all of my focus on levitating that chair h with my mind.
This is a good example of focusing on PROCESS rather than CONTENT. Focusing on HOW I am thinking rather than WHAT I am thinking.
These kinds of changes must be radical in order to be effective. You know, simple but far from easy. (And if you move the chair, please let me know.)

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Excavating Your Lost Self]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell: </b>"How much of what you believe do you really believe?"</p>
<p>Allen and Patrick review a recent Slate article about Emotional Sobriety and push back on some of its premises. Emotional Sobriety isn’t just about taking care of ourselves, it’s about dismantling expectations and developing an entirely new way of living. It offers not just inner peace, but true freedom.</p>
<p>The article: “I Quit Drinking. It’s Great. There’s Just One Small Problem.”</p>
<p><a href="https://slate.com/advice/2025/08/drinking-alcoholism-emotional-sobriety-dry-drunk-advice.html">https://slate.com/advice/2025/08/drinking-alcoholism-emotional-sobriety-dry-drunk-advice.html</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell: "How much of what you believe do you really believe?"
Allen and Patrick review a recent Slate article about Emotional Sobriety and push back on some of its premises. Emotional Sobriety isn’t just about taking care of ourselves, it’s about dismantling expectations and developing an entirely new way of living. It offers not just inner peace, but true freedom.
The article: “I Quit Drinking. It’s Great. There’s Just One Small Problem.”
https://slate.com/advice/2025/08/drinking-alcoholism-emotional-sobriety-dry-drunk-advice.html

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Excavating Your Lost Self]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><b>Thom’s Nutshell: </b>"How much of what you believe do you really believe?"</p>
<p>Allen and Patrick review a recent Slate article about Emotional Sobriety and push back on some of its premises. Emotional Sobriety isn’t just about taking care of ourselves, it’s about dismantling expectations and developing an entirely new way of living. It offers not just inner peace, but true freedom.</p>
<p>The article: “I Quit Drinking. It’s Great. There’s Just One Small Problem.”</p>
<p><a href="https://slate.com/advice/2025/08/drinking-alcoholism-emotional-sobriety-dry-drunk-advice.html">https://slate.com/advice/2025/08/drinking-alcoholism-emotional-sobriety-dry-drunk-advice.html</a></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom’s Nutshell: "How much of what you believe do you really believe?"
Allen and Patrick review a recent Slate article about Emotional Sobriety and push back on some of its premises. Emotional Sobriety isn’t just about taking care of ourselves, it’s about dismantling expectations and developing an entirely new way of living. It offers not just inner peace, but true freedom.
The article: “I Quit Drinking. It’s Great. There’s Just One Small Problem.”
https://slate.com/advice/2025/08/drinking-alcoholism-emotional-sobriety-dry-drunk-advice.html

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA["Focus Mokus" with Joe C.]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2026 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>On clarity, which comes with emotional sobriety: an antidote to impulsivity, rumination, indecision and procrastination.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Thom’s nutshell wisdom:</p>
<p><b>Your ego has one value system, your spirit another. Beware of identifying with one and acting from the other. We all experience this. It is the source of our deepest hypocrisy.</b></p>
<p><b>This is the human struggle: personally and globally. </b><b></b></p>
<p><b></b></p>
<p>Our hearts go out to the people of Minneapolis.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On clarity, which comes with emotional sobriety: an antidote to impulsivity, rumination, indecision and procrastination.

Thom’s nutshell wisdom:
Your ego has one value system, your spirit another. Beware of identifying with one and acting from the other. We all experience this. It is the source of our deepest hypocrisy.
This is the human struggle: personally and globally. 

Our hearts go out to the people of Minneapolis.

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA["Focus Mokus" with Joe C.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>On clarity, which comes with emotional sobriety: an antidote to impulsivity, rumination, indecision and procrastination.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Thom’s nutshell wisdom:</p>
<p><b>Your ego has one value system, your spirit another. Beware of identifying with one and acting from the other. We all experience this. It is the source of our deepest hypocrisy.</b></p>
<p><b>This is the human struggle: personally and globally. </b><b></b></p>
<p><b></b></p>
<p>Our hearts go out to the people of Minneapolis.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On clarity, which comes with emotional sobriety: an antidote to impulsivity, rumination, indecision and procrastination.

Thom’s nutshell wisdom:
Your ego has one value system, your spirit another. Beware of identifying with one and acting from the other. We all experience this. It is the source of our deepest hypocrisy.
This is the human struggle: personally and globally. 

Our hearts go out to the people of Minneapolis.

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Personal Agency in Emotional Sobriety]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2026 15:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p><b>"I didn't have a choice."</b><b></b></p>
<p>You're selling yourself short. Or you mean, the choice seemed obvious to you. But still, you made the choice.</p>
<p>Or - you are making an excuse, ducking responsibility, for a poor choice that you made.</p>
<p>Because...</p>
<p>We always have choices.</p>
<p>Even not making a choice is a choice.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA["I didn't have a choice."
You're selling yourself short. Or you mean, the choice seemed obvious to you. But still, you made the choice.
Or - you are making an excuse, ducking responsibility, for a poor choice that you made.
Because...
We always have choices.
Even not making a choice is a choice.

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><b>"I didn't have a choice."</b><b></b></p>
<p>You're selling yourself short. Or you mean, the choice seemed obvious to you. But still, you made the choice.</p>
<p>Or - you are making an excuse, ducking responsibility, for a poor choice that you made.</p>
<p>Because...</p>
<p>We always have choices.</p>
<p>Even not making a choice is a choice.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA["I didn't have a choice."
You're selling yourself short. Or you mean, the choice seemed obvious to you. But still, you made the choice.
Or - you are making an excuse, ducking responsibility, for a poor choice that you made.
Because...
We always have choices.
Even not making a choice is a choice.

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:28:16</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Tout Est Possible]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2026 04:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>Today’s Nutshell Wisdom: The big difference between passing judgment and exercising judgment: One focuses attention on something I do not control. The other focuses on precisely what I do control.</p>
<p>Today we’re back to the serenity prayer and describing what emotional sobriety’s “discovery of new possibilities” could practically mean.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Today’s Nutshell Wisdom: The big difference between passing judgment and exercising judgment: One focuses attention on something I do not control. The other focuses on precisely what I do control.
Today we’re back to the serenity prayer and describing what emotional sobriety’s “discovery of new possibilities” could practically mean.

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Today’s Nutshell Wisdom: The big difference between passing judgment and exercising judgment: One focuses attention on something I do not control. The other focuses on precisely what I do control.</p>
<p>Today we’re back to the serenity prayer and describing what emotional sobriety’s “discovery of new possibilities” could practically mean.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Today’s Nutshell Wisdom: The big difference between passing judgment and exercising judgment: One focuses attention on something I do not control. The other focuses on precisely what I do control.
Today we’re back to the serenity prayer and describing what emotional sobriety’s “discovery of new possibilities” could practically mean.

Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Resilience Myths]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>Joe C. quotes Joseph Campbell: “We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us.”</p>
<p>Thom’s nutshell for today: “Measure your progress in units of willingness instead of willpower, with degrees of self-acceptance rather than change."</p>
<p>Allen, Thom, Joe and Patrick each talk about how their understanding of emotional sobriety has evolved over the past year, looking ahead to 2026.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b><b></b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. quotes Joseph Campbell: “We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us.”
Thom’s nutshell for today: “Measure your progress in units of willingness instead of willpower, with degrees of self-acceptance rather than change."
Allen, Thom, Joe and Patrick each talk about how their understanding of emotional sobriety has evolved over the past year, looking ahead to 2026.

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Resilience Myths]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Joe C. quotes Joseph Campbell: “We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us.”</p>
<p>Thom’s nutshell for today: “Measure your progress in units of willingness instead of willpower, with degrees of self-acceptance rather than change."</p>
<p>Allen, Thom, Joe and Patrick each talk about how their understanding of emotional sobriety has evolved over the past year, looking ahead to 2026.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b><b></b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. quotes Joseph Campbell: “We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us.”
Thom’s nutshell for today: “Measure your progress in units of willingness instead of willpower, with degrees of self-acceptance rather than change."
Allen, Thom, Joe and Patrick each talk about how their understanding of emotional sobriety has evolved over the past year, looking ahead to 2026.

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Self-Supporting Holiday]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2025 22:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>For this week’s nutshell, prioritizing comfort will eventually make us very uncomfortable. We talk amends and pull some wisdom from Arthur Schopenhaur (via Joe C.’s “Beyond Belief”).</p>
<p></p>
<p>Sending love and emotional sobriety to you all this holiday. We’ll be back for one more in 2025.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For this week’s nutshell, prioritizing comfort will eventually make us very uncomfortable. We talk amends and pull some wisdom from Arthur Schopenhaur (via Joe C.’s “Beyond Belief”).

Sending love and emotional sobriety to you all this holiday. We’ll be back for one more in 2025.

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>For this week’s nutshell, prioritizing comfort will eventually make us very uncomfortable. We talk amends and pull some wisdom from Arthur Schopenhaur (via Joe C.’s “Beyond Belief”).</p>
<p></p>
<p>Sending love and emotional sobriety to you all this holiday. We’ll be back for one more in 2025.</p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For this week’s nutshell, prioritizing comfort will eventually make us very uncomfortable. We talk amends and pull some wisdom from Arthur Schopenhaur (via Joe C.’s “Beyond Belief”).

Sending love and emotional sobriety to you all this holiday. We’ll be back for one more in 2025.

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“God Doesn’t Flunk Anyone, but He Gives a Lot of Re-Tests”]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2025 00:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>On learning from our mistakes. Whether or not the mistake results in an immediate change in our behavior, learning is always taking place if we can get out of our own way. Thom and Allen advise staying with our heartbreak (or other forms of grief), feeling it without being stuck in it. Notice when we are “offended by reality.” There’s an opportunity there to de-personalize the pain, and thereby survive.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Nutshell of the Day:</p>
<p><b>"Sometimes it just doesn't get done."</b><b></b></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b><b></b></p>
<p></p>
<p>Emotional Sobriety, Allen Berger, Thom Rutledge, Patrick Newman, Recovery, Learning from Mistakes, Sobriety, AA, Gestalt</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On learning from our mistakes. Whether or not the mistake results in an immediate change in our behavior, learning is always taking place if we can get out of our own way. Thom and Allen advise staying with our heartbreak (or other forms of grief), feeling it without being stuck in it. Notice when we are “offended by reality.” There’s an opportunity there to de-personalize the pain, and thereby survive.

Nutshell of the Day:
"Sometimes it just doesn't get done."

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.

Emotional Sobriety, Allen Berger, Thom Rutledge, Patrick Newman, Recovery, Learning from Mistakes, Sobriety, AA, Gestalt]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[“God Doesn’t Flunk Anyone, but He Gives a Lot of Re-Tests”]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>On learning from our mistakes. Whether or not the mistake results in an immediate change in our behavior, learning is always taking place if we can get out of our own way. Thom and Allen advise staying with our heartbreak (or other forms of grief), feeling it without being stuck in it. Notice when we are “offended by reality.” There’s an opportunity there to de-personalize the pain, and thereby survive.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Nutshell of the Day:</p>
<p><b>"Sometimes it just doesn't get done."</b><b></b></p>
<p></p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b><b></b></p>
<p></p>
<p>Emotional Sobriety, Allen Berger, Thom Rutledge, Patrick Newman, Recovery, Learning from Mistakes, Sobriety, AA, Gestalt</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On learning from our mistakes. Whether or not the mistake results in an immediate change in our behavior, learning is always taking place if we can get out of our own way. Thom and Allen advise staying with our heartbreak (or other forms of grief), feeling it without being stuck in it. Notice when we are “offended by reality.” There’s an opportunity there to de-personalize the pain, and thereby survive.

Nutshell of the Day:
"Sometimes it just doesn't get done."

Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.

Emotional Sobriety, Allen Berger, Thom Rutledge, Patrick Newman, Recovery, Learning from Mistakes, Sobriety, AA, Gestalt]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Holidays Aren’t So Bad! (Unless You Get Kicked by a Horse)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2025 02:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p><b>Nutshell of the Day:</b> “Even introverts need connection and support. Solitude is vital. Isolation is deadly.”</p>
<p>On the eve of Joe C.’s sober birthday, he drops by to talk about managing expectations, staying sane and emotionally sober during Thanksgiving.</p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b><b></b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Nutshell of the Day: “Even introverts need connection and support. Solitude is vital. Isolation is deadly.”
On the eve of Joe C.’s sober birthday, he drops by to talk about managing expectations, staying sane and emotionally sober during Thanksgiving.
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Holidays Aren’t So Bad! (Unless You Get Kicked by a Horse)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><b>Nutshell of the Day:</b> “Even introverts need connection and support. Solitude is vital. Isolation is deadly.”</p>
<p>On the eve of Joe C.’s sober birthday, he drops by to talk about managing expectations, staying sane and emotionally sober during Thanksgiving.</p>
<p><b>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</b><b></b></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Follow us on social media.</b><b></b></p>
<p>Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p>Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p>Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</b><b></b></p>
<p>Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</b> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </b><b></b></p>
<p>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p>Password: 375986</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</b><b></b></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p>We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </b><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><b>pndirective4@gmail.com</b></a><b> for any questions or comments.</b><b></b></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Nutshell of the Day: “Even introverts need connection and support. Solitude is vital. Isolation is deadly.”
On the eve of Joe C.’s sober birthday, he drops by to talk about managing expectations, staying sane and emotionally sober during Thanksgiving.
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Your Family Is Your Alma Mater]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2025 04:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Carol Carter returns to the show as we try a more focused format and talk change, not taking things personally, and understanding our capacity to accomplish more and weather bigger storms than we ever thought possible.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Carol Carter returns to the show as we try a more focused format and talk change, not taking things personally, and understanding our capacity to accomplish more and weather bigger storms than we ever thought possible.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Your Family Is Your Alma Mater]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Carol Carter returns to the show as we try a more focused format and talk change, not taking things personally, and understanding our capacity to accomplish more and weather bigger storms than we ever thought possible.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Carol Carter returns to the show as we try a more focused format and talk change, not taking things personally, and understanding our capacity to accomplish more and weather bigger storms than we ever thought possible.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:06</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA["You’re the One You’ve Been Waiting For" with Melanie Gulde]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2025 01:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Melanie Gulde returns to the podcast to talk with Allen and Thom about the progress and promise of <em>Divided Sky</em> in Vermont, which isn’t a rehab but a residential recovery retreat, reasonably priced. She discusses meeting Phish’s Trey Anastasio, who worked with her in recovery to form the center’s curriculum, which lists “Emotional Sobriety 101” as a foundational text.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>More about Divided Sky: </strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://dividedsky.org">https://dividedsky.org</a></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Melanie Gulde returns to the podcast to talk with Allen and Thom about the progress and promise of Divided Sky in Vermont, which isn’t a rehab but a residential recovery retreat, reasonably priced. She discusses meeting Phish’s Trey Anastasio, who worked with her in recovery to form the center’s curriculum, which lists “Emotional Sobriety 101” as a foundational text.
 
More about Divided Sky: 
https://dividedsky.org
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA["You’re the One You’ve Been Waiting For" with Melanie Gulde]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Melanie Gulde returns to the podcast to talk with Allen and Thom about the progress and promise of <em>Divided Sky</em> in Vermont, which isn’t a rehab but a residential recovery retreat, reasonably priced. She discusses meeting Phish’s Trey Anastasio, who worked with her in recovery to form the center’s curriculum, which lists “Emotional Sobriety 101” as a foundational text.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>More about Divided Sky: </strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://dividedsky.org">https://dividedsky.org</a></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Melanie Gulde returns to the podcast to talk with Allen and Thom about the progress and promise of Divided Sky in Vermont, which isn’t a rehab but a residential recovery retreat, reasonably priced. She discusses meeting Phish’s Trey Anastasio, who worked with her in recovery to form the center’s curriculum, which lists “Emotional Sobriety 101” as a foundational text.
 
More about Divided Sky: 
https://dividedsky.org
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:34:44</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Codependency and Emotional Sobriety]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2025 18:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">“...the pain that comes from loving someone who's in trouble can be profound.”</p>
<p class="p1">― <strong>Melody Beattie, </strong><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/706540"><strong>Codependent No More: How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself</strong></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>See guest Michael Harney’s play, “Danny Boy” still showing in Los Angeles:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://l.instagram.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onstage411.com%2FDannyBoy&amp;e=AT0qeAPKQhiHiIT-5qQzZ2goBr6yRqFa-shjGxaeP79W5evGu-9m_HrjY898pqyq2k7IKm8ZmJfmdDltUv61CA8rqj9bvPVQ16SoqrsKHXZpcWWuX4HtWekXgjk3">https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 </a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“...the pain that comes from loving someone who's in trouble can be profound.”
― Melody Beattie, Codependent No More: How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
See guest Michael Harney’s play, “Danny Boy” still showing in Los Angeles:
https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Codependency and Emotional Sobriety]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">“...the pain that comes from loving someone who's in trouble can be profound.”</p>
<p class="p1">― <strong>Melody Beattie, </strong><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/706540"><strong>Codependent No More: How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself</strong></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>See guest Michael Harney’s play, “Danny Boy” still showing in Los Angeles:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://l.instagram.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onstage411.com%2FDannyBoy&amp;e=AT0qeAPKQhiHiIT-5qQzZ2goBr6yRqFa-shjGxaeP79W5evGu-9m_HrjY898pqyq2k7IKm8ZmJfmdDltUv61CA8rqj9bvPVQ16SoqrsKHXZpcWWuX4HtWekXgjk3">https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 </a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“...the pain that comes from loving someone who's in trouble can be profound.”
― Melody Beattie, Codependent No More: How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
See guest Michael Harney’s play, “Danny Boy” still showing in Los Angeles:
https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:44</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[The Merry-Go-Round]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2025 03:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe, Thom, and Patrick talk Marcus Aurelius, read a daily reflection from Joe’s “Beyond Belief,” and consider the uncomfortable necessity of staying in the center of the herd. We also talk about making a difference and keeping the candle of hope burning during our particularly brutal and unjust time.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>See last week guest Michael Harney’s play, “Danny Boy” still showing in Los Angeles:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://l.instagram.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onstage411.com%2FDannyBoy&amp;e=AT0qeAPKQhiHiIT-5qQzZ2goBr6yRqFa-shjGxaeP79W5evGu-9m_HrjY898pqyq2k7IKm8ZmJfmdDltUv61CA8rqj9bvPVQ16SoqrsKHXZpcWWuX4HtWekXgjk3">https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 </a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Joe, Thom, and Patrick talk Marcus Aurelius, read a daily reflection from Joe’s “Beyond Belief,” and consider the uncomfortable necessity of staying in the center of the herd. We also talk about making a difference and keeping the candle of hope burning during our particularly brutal and unjust time.
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
See last week guest Michael Harney’s play, “Danny Boy” still showing in Los Angeles:
https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[The Merry-Go-Round]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe, Thom, and Patrick talk Marcus Aurelius, read a daily reflection from Joe’s “Beyond Belief,” and consider the uncomfortable necessity of staying in the center of the herd. We also talk about making a difference and keeping the candle of hope burning during our particularly brutal and unjust time.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>See last week guest Michael Harney’s play, “Danny Boy” still showing in Los Angeles:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://l.instagram.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onstage411.com%2FDannyBoy&amp;e=AT0qeAPKQhiHiIT-5qQzZ2goBr6yRqFa-shjGxaeP79W5evGu-9m_HrjY898pqyq2k7IKm8ZmJfmdDltUv61CA8rqj9bvPVQ16SoqrsKHXZpcWWuX4HtWekXgjk3">https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 </a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe, Thom, and Patrick talk Marcus Aurelius, read a daily reflection from Joe’s “Beyond Belief,” and consider the uncomfortable necessity of staying in the center of the herd. We also talk about making a difference and keeping the candle of hope burning during our particularly brutal and unjust time.
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
See last week guest Michael Harney’s play, “Danny Boy” still showing in Los Angeles:
https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:43:12</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety & Creativity with Michael J. Harney]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Actor, writer and director Michael J. Harney (NYPD Blue, Deadwood, True Detective) joins Thom and Allen to talk about his evolving spirituality and journey to recovery, his experience directing his new play “Danny Boy,” his friendship with the legendary David Milch, and how emotional sobriety has shown up for him over the years in his relationships with others and his Muse.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>See Michael’s play, “Danny Boy” now showing in Los Angeles:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://l.instagram.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onstage411.com%2FDannyBoy&amp;e=AT0qeAPKQhiHiIT-5qQzZ2goBr6yRqFa-shjGxaeP79W5evGu-9m_HrjY898pqyq2k7IKm8ZmJfmdDltUv61CA8rqj9bvPVQ16SoqrsKHXZpcWWuX4HtWekXgjk3">https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 </a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Actor, writer and director Michael J. Harney (NYPD Blue, Deadwood, True Detective) joins Thom and Allen to talk about his evolving spirituality and journey to recovery, his experience directing his new play “Danny Boy,” his friendship with the legendary David Milch, and how emotional sobriety has shown up for him over the years in his relationships with others and his Muse.
 
See Michael’s play, “Danny Boy” now showing in Los Angeles:
https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Actor, writer and director Michael J. Harney (NYPD Blue, Deadwood, True Detective) joins Thom and Allen to talk about his evolving spirituality and journey to recovery, his experience directing his new play “Danny Boy,” his friendship with the legendary David Milch, and how emotional sobriety has shown up for him over the years in his relationships with others and his Muse.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>See Michael’s play, “Danny Boy” now showing in Los Angeles:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://l.instagram.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onstage411.com%2FDannyBoy&amp;e=AT0qeAPKQhiHiIT-5qQzZ2goBr6yRqFa-shjGxaeP79W5evGu-9m_HrjY898pqyq2k7IKm8ZmJfmdDltUv61CA8rqj9bvPVQ16SoqrsKHXZpcWWuX4HtWekXgjk3">https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 </a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Actor, writer and director Michael J. Harney (NYPD Blue, Deadwood, True Detective) joins Thom and Allen to talk about his evolving spirituality and journey to recovery, his experience directing his new play “Danny Boy,” his friendship with the legendary David Milch, and how emotional sobriety has shown up for him over the years in his relationships with others and his Muse.
 
See Michael’s play, “Danny Boy” now showing in Los Angeles:
https://www.onstage411.com/newsite/show/play_info.asp?show_id=7432 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:40:13</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[The Bedroom Opens off the Living Room]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2025 05:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. joins Allen and Patrick to introduce what will be a series of episodes discussing how emotional sobriety can improve our sexual relationships, building genuine intimacy with partners. Finding ways to connect authentically, standing for ourselves without erasing our partners, and showing up for our partners without erasing ourselves.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. joins Allen and Patrick to introduce what will be a series of episodes discussing how emotional sobriety can improve our sexual relationships, building genuine intimacy with partners. Finding ways to connect authentically, standing for ourselves without erasing our partners, and showing up for our partners without erasing ourselves.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[The Bedroom Opens off the Living Room]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. joins Allen and Patrick to introduce what will be a series of episodes discussing how emotional sobriety can improve our sexual relationships, building genuine intimacy with partners. Finding ways to connect authentically, standing for ourselves without erasing our partners, and showing up for our partners without erasing ourselves.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></span> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. joins Allen and Patrick to introduce what will be a series of episodes discussing how emotional sobriety can improve our sexual relationships, building genuine intimacy with partners. Finding ways to connect authentically, standing for ourselves without erasing our partners, and showing up for our partners without erasing ourselves.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:38:27</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Trauma is Subjective]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2025 19:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Clinical trauma specialist and author of <em>Trauma and the 12 Steps</em> Jamie+ Marich, Ph.D., LPCC-S, REAT joins Allen and Thom this week to talk about her body of work, field of study and pursuit of emotional sobriety. We pay special attention to the trauma surrounding loss, since all trauma work involves grief work.</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Dr. Marich:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="http://www.redefinetherapy.com/">www.redefinetherapy.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="http://www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com/">www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="http://www.jamiemarich.com/">www.jamiemarich.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Virtual book tours: <a href="http://www.redefinetherapy.com/"><span class="s1">www.redefinetherapy.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: drjamiem</p>
<p class="p1">TikTok: traumatherapistrants</p>
<p class="p1">Now available for pre-order: <em>Queering EMDR Therapy </em>(September 2025)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: </strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com">pndirective4@gmail.com</a> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[Clinical trauma specialist and author of Trauma and the 12 Steps Jamie+ Marich, Ph.D., LPCC-S, REAT joins Allen and Thom this week to talk about her body of work, field of study and pursuit of emotional sobriety. We pay special attention to the trauma surrounding loss, since all trauma work involves grief work.
Learn more about Dr. Marich:
www.redefinetherapy.com
www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com
www.jamiemarich.com
Virtual book tours: www.redefinetherapy.com
Instagram: drjamiem
TikTok: traumatherapistrants
Now available for pre-order: Queering EMDR Therapy (September 2025)
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: 
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Clinical trauma specialist and author of <em>Trauma and the 12 Steps</em> Jamie+ Marich, Ph.D., LPCC-S, REAT joins Allen and Thom this week to talk about her body of work, field of study and pursuit of emotional sobriety. We pay special attention to the trauma surrounding loss, since all trauma work involves grief work.</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Dr. Marich:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="http://www.redefinetherapy.com/">www.redefinetherapy.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="http://www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com/">www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="http://www.jamiemarich.com/">www.jamiemarich.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Virtual book tours: <a href="http://www.redefinetherapy.com/"><span class="s1">www.redefinetherapy.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: drjamiem</p>
<p class="p1">TikTok: traumatherapistrants</p>
<p class="p1">Now available for pre-order: <em>Queering EMDR Therapy </em>(September 2025)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: </strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety:</strong> https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): </strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com">pndirective4@gmail.com</a> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Clinical trauma specialist and author of Trauma and the 12 Steps Jamie+ Marich, Ph.D., LPCC-S, REAT joins Allen and Thom this week to talk about her body of work, field of study and pursuit of emotional sobriety. We pay special attention to the trauma surrounding loss, since all trauma work involves grief work.
Learn more about Dr. Marich:
www.redefinetherapy.com
www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com
www.jamiemarich.com
Virtual book tours: www.redefinetherapy.com
Instagram: drjamiem
TikTok: traumatherapistrants
Now available for pre-order: Queering EMDR Therapy (September 2025)
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: 
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Beliefs Are Choices]]>
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                <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2025 20:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom, Joe, and Patrick read from the <em>Beyond Belief</em> daily reflections about where emotional sobriety can come in when we’re struggling to tolerate opposing beliefs and challenging personalities. Emotional sobriety requires not only respect for ourselves, but respect for others.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom, Joe, and Patrick read from the Beyond Belief daily reflections about where emotional sobriety can come in when we’re struggling to tolerate opposing beliefs and challenging personalities. Emotional sobriety requires not only respect for ourselves, but respect for others.
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom, Joe, and Patrick read from the <em>Beyond Belief</em> daily reflections about where emotional sobriety can come in when we’re struggling to tolerate opposing beliefs and challenging personalities. Emotional sobriety requires not only respect for ourselves, but respect for others.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom, Joe, and Patrick read from the Beyond Belief daily reflections about where emotional sobriety can come in when we’re struggling to tolerate opposing beliefs and challenging personalities. Emotional sobriety requires not only respect for ourselves, but respect for others.
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:38:37</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
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                    <![CDATA[Close to the Ditch]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 22:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe Chisholm returns to discuss helping others through suggestion, not “expertise.” Emotional sobriety can help us escape a “victim mentality” we must shed to become the best version of ourselves. We use the term “victim” delicately, taking into account genuine sufferers of abuse and victimization. Whether one hour or twenty years sober, we’re all engaging with the same work and the same pursuit of emotional freedom.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe Chisholm returns to discuss helping others through suggestion, not “expertise.” Emotional sobriety can help us escape a “victim mentality” we must shed to become the best version of ourselves. We use the term “victim” delicately, taking into account genuine sufferers of abuse and victimization. Whether one hour or twenty years sober, we’re all engaging with the same work and the same pursuit of emotional freedom.
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Close to the Ditch]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe Chisholm returns to discuss helping others through suggestion, not “expertise.” Emotional sobriety can help us escape a “victim mentality” we must shed to become the best version of ourselves. We use the term “victim” delicately, taking into account genuine sufferers of abuse and victimization. Whether one hour or twenty years sober, we’re all engaging with the same work and the same pursuit of emotional freedom.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe Chisholm returns to discuss helping others through suggestion, not “expertise.” Emotional sobriety can help us escape a “victim mentality” we must shed to become the best version of ourselves. We use the term “victim” delicately, taking into account genuine sufferers of abuse and victimization. Whether one hour or twenty years sober, we’re all engaging with the same work and the same pursuit of emotional freedom.
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:42:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
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                    <![CDATA[Streamline Your Thinking!]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2025 21:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Allen discuss pursuing emotional sobriety once we become aware of our “unconscious incompetence.” In practicing anything until it becomes innate and automatic, the path begins (as so much of what we do), in acceptance. We return to the serenity prayer.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Allen discuss pursuing emotional sobriety once we become aware of our “unconscious incompetence.” In practicing anything until it becomes innate and automatic, the path begins (as so much of what we do), in acceptance. We return to the serenity prayer.
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Allen discuss pursuing emotional sobriety once we become aware of our “unconscious incompetence.” In practicing anything until it becomes innate and automatic, the path begins (as so much of what we do), in acceptance. We return to the serenity prayer.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Allen discuss pursuing emotional sobriety once we become aware of our “unconscious incompetence.” In practicing anything until it becomes innate and automatic, the path begins (as so much of what we do), in acceptance. We return to the serenity prayer.
 
Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:32:16</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA["I Am Not a Counselor"]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 02:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Having recently celebrated 40 years of continuous sobriety, Bill Cleveland, a pillar in a multitude of recovery fellowships (namely Hermosa Beach Men’s Stag) discusses with Allen alcoholism as an analogue for emotional immaturity, AA as something we “get” to do rather than something we “have” to do, “second first steps,” the importance of amends and working with others.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">If you’re in recovery or mental health spaces and interested in politics and social justice, Patrick has a new weekly podcast about the intersection of just those things!</p>
<p class="p1">“Outside Issues” with Audrey and Patrick:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Having recently celebrated 40 years of continuous sobriety, Bill Cleveland, a pillar in a multitude of recovery fellowships (namely Hermosa Beach Men’s Stag) discusses with Allen alcoholism as an analogue for emotional immaturity, AA as something we “get” to do rather than something we “have” to do, “second first steps,” the importance of amends and working with others.
 
If you’re in recovery or mental health spaces and interested in politics and social justice, Patrick has a new weekly podcast about the intersection of just those things!
“Outside Issues” with Audrey and Patrick:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA["I Am Not a Counselor"]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Having recently celebrated 40 years of continuous sobriety, Bill Cleveland, a pillar in a multitude of recovery fellowships (namely Hermosa Beach Men’s Stag) discusses with Allen alcoholism as an analogue for emotional immaturity, AA as something we “get” to do rather than something we “have” to do, “second first steps,” the importance of amends and working with others.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">If you’re in recovery or mental health spaces and interested in politics and social justice, Patrick has a new weekly podcast about the intersection of just those things!</p>
<p class="p1">“Outside Issues” with Audrey and Patrick:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1826305552">https://pod.link/1826305552</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Having recently celebrated 40 years of continuous sobriety, Bill Cleveland, a pillar in a multitude of recovery fellowships (namely Hermosa Beach Men’s Stag) discusses with Allen alcoholism as an analogue for emotional immaturity, AA as something we “get” to do rather than something we “have” to do, “second first steps,” the importance of amends and working with others.
 
If you’re in recovery or mental health spaces and interested in politics and social justice, Patrick has a new weekly podcast about the intersection of just those things!
“Outside Issues” with Audrey and Patrick:
https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast
https://pod.link/1826305552
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:58</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[The Reverse Golden Rule]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 08:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Superfriend Carol Carter returns to talk about a recent breakthrough in self-love, a welcome reminder that Emotional Sobriety is above all else a discovery of new possibilities.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Carol is accepting clients for executive and professional coaching, and can be contacted here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:carolcartercoaching@gmail.com">carolcartercoaching@gmail.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Superfriend Carol Carter returns to talk about a recent breakthrough in self-love, a welcome reminder that Emotional Sobriety is above all else a discovery of new possibilities.
 
Carol is accepting clients for executive and professional coaching, and can be contacted here:
carolcartercoaching@gmail.com
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[The Reverse Golden Rule]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Superfriend Carol Carter returns to talk about a recent breakthrough in self-love, a welcome reminder that Emotional Sobriety is above all else a discovery of new possibilities.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Carol is accepting clients for executive and professional coaching, and can be contacted here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:carolcartercoaching@gmail.com">carolcartercoaching@gmail.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Superfriend Carol Carter returns to talk about a recent breakthrough in self-love, a welcome reminder that Emotional Sobriety is above all else a discovery of new possibilities.
 
Carol is accepting clients for executive and professional coaching, and can be contacted here:
carolcartercoaching@gmail.com
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:59</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[“Sobriety Didn’t Solve My Problems, It Exposed Them”]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 05:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/25529/episode/2096416</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/sobriety-didnt-solve-my-problems-it-exposed-them</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">We respond to criticisms leveled at a recent workshop: is Emotional Sobriety somehow alternative, even interruptive, of a faithful rigorous 12 Step program, or is it a complement to it? As always we try to get to the feeling beneath the compulsion, the “stuckness” that prevents us from reaching that fourth dimension. Allen, Thom, and Joe C. wore out their big books in their early days, but still keep them close. Recovery is an “all hands on deck” process.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Thom for <strong>Why Inner Child Work Matters: A Foundation for Self-Care in Recovery</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Saturday • July 26, 2025 10:00 am - 1:00 pm Central</p>
<p class="p1">To register, send an email to <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen, Thom, and Joe C. on Zoom at the “Growing in Understanding” group this Friday, July 25th @ 2pm PST:</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[We respond to criticisms leveled at a recent workshop: is Emotional Sobriety somehow alternative, even interruptive, of a faithful rigorous 12 Step program, or is it a complement to it? As always we try to get to the feeling beneath the compulsion, the “stuckness” that prevents us from reaching that fourth dimension. Allen, Thom, and Joe C. wore out their big books in their early days, but still keep them close. Recovery is an “all hands on deck” process.
 
Join Thom for Why Inner Child Work Matters: A Foundation for Self-Care in Recovery
Saturday • July 26, 2025 10:00 am - 1:00 pm Central
To register, send an email to thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com 
 
Join Allen, Thom, and Joe C. on Zoom at the “Growing in Understanding” group this Friday, July 25th @ 2pm PST:
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[“Sobriety Didn’t Solve My Problems, It Exposed Them”]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">We respond to criticisms leveled at a recent workshop: is Emotional Sobriety somehow alternative, even interruptive, of a faithful rigorous 12 Step program, or is it a complement to it? As always we try to get to the feeling beneath the compulsion, the “stuckness” that prevents us from reaching that fourth dimension. Allen, Thom, and Joe C. wore out their big books in their early days, but still keep them close. Recovery is an “all hands on deck” process.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Thom for <strong>Why Inner Child Work Matters: A Foundation for Self-Care in Recovery</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Saturday • July 26, 2025 10:00 am - 1:00 pm Central</p>
<p class="p1">To register, send an email to <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen, Thom, and Joe C. on Zoom at the “Growing in Understanding” group this Friday, July 25th @ 2pm PST:</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We respond to criticisms leveled at a recent workshop: is Emotional Sobriety somehow alternative, even interruptive, of a faithful rigorous 12 Step program, or is it a complement to it? As always we try to get to the feeling beneath the compulsion, the “stuckness” that prevents us from reaching that fourth dimension. Allen, Thom, and Joe C. wore out their big books in their early days, but still keep them close. Recovery is an “all hands on deck” process.
 
Join Thom for Why Inner Child Work Matters: A Foundation for Self-Care in Recovery
Saturday • July 26, 2025 10:00 am - 1:00 pm Central
To register, send an email to thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com 
 
Join Allen, Thom, and Joe C. on Zoom at the “Growing in Understanding” group this Friday, July 25th @ 2pm PST:
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:38:02</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Second First Steps]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2025 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Carol Carter returns to the show to talk about letting go of her resentments towards her ex-husband. By freeing him, she freed herself. Many of us first veered off course in our largely unconscious emotional dependencies, creating a powerlessness and unmanageability on par with any other addiction. In emotional sobriety we learn to hold onto ourselves, in good times or bad.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Carol is accepting clients for executive and professional coaching, and can be contacted here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:carolcartercoaching@gmail.com">carolcartercoaching@gmail.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Carol Carter returns to the show to talk about letting go of her resentments towards her ex-husband. By freeing him, she freed herself. Many of us first veered off course in our largely unconscious emotional dependencies, creating a powerlessness and unmanageability on par with any other addiction. In emotional sobriety we learn to hold onto ourselves, in good times or bad.
 
Carol is accepting clients for executive and professional coaching, and can be contacted here:
carolcartercoaching@gmail.com
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Second First Steps]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Carol Carter returns to the show to talk about letting go of her resentments towards her ex-husband. By freeing him, she freed herself. Many of us first veered off course in our largely unconscious emotional dependencies, creating a powerlessness and unmanageability on par with any other addiction. In emotional sobriety we learn to hold onto ourselves, in good times or bad.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Carol is accepting clients for executive and professional coaching, and can be contacted here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:carolcartercoaching@gmail.com">carolcartercoaching@gmail.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Carol Carter returns to the show to talk about letting go of her resentments towards her ex-husband. By freeing him, she freed herself. Many of us first veered off course in our largely unconscious emotional dependencies, creating a powerlessness and unmanageability on par with any other addiction. In emotional sobriety we learn to hold onto ourselves, in good times or bad.
 
Carol is accepting clients for executive and professional coaching, and can be contacted here:
carolcartercoaching@gmail.com
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:30:23</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Are These Extravagant Promises? Inconceivable!]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 01:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/25529/episode/2080351</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/are-these-extravagant-promises-inconceivable</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. joins Patrick and Thom to chat about mutual aid versus self-help: how collectivism can feed our emotional sobriety. When we give ourselves to fellowship and sharing, we’re gaining something as much as we’re giving it away. The origin of AA itself can be attributed to this concept.</p>
<p class="p1">Register for what’s sure to be lively: the 2025 International Convention of Alcoholics Anonymous, which begins tomorrow on July 3rd and extends through July 6th:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.aa.org/international-convention">https://www.aa.org/international-convention</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Joe C. joins Patrick and Thom to chat about mutual aid versus self-help: how collectivism can feed our emotional sobriety. When we give ourselves to fellowship and sharing, we’re gaining something as much as we’re giving it away. The origin of AA itself can be attributed to this concept.
Register for what’s sure to be lively: the 2025 International Convention of Alcoholics Anonymous, which begins tomorrow on July 3rd and extends through July 6th:
https://www.aa.org/international-convention
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Are These Extravagant Promises? Inconceivable!]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. joins Patrick and Thom to chat about mutual aid versus self-help: how collectivism can feed our emotional sobriety. When we give ourselves to fellowship and sharing, we’re gaining something as much as we’re giving it away. The origin of AA itself can be attributed to this concept.</p>
<p class="p1">Register for what’s sure to be lively: the 2025 International Convention of Alcoholics Anonymous, which begins tomorrow on July 3rd and extends through July 6th:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.aa.org/international-convention">https://www.aa.org/international-convention</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. joins Patrick and Thom to chat about mutual aid versus self-help: how collectivism can feed our emotional sobriety. When we give ourselves to fellowship and sharing, we’re gaining something as much as we’re giving it away. The origin of AA itself can be attributed to this concept.
Register for what’s sure to be lively: the 2025 International Convention of Alcoholics Anonymous, which begins tomorrow on July 3rd and extends through July 6th:
https://www.aa.org/international-convention
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:10</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Right-Sized Expressions]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2025 02:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe Chisholm checks back in. We read a passage from his daily reflections book and he brings to our attention “Living Sober,” which was written more than 40 years after the AA Big Book was published. When those recovering were asked “what were the reasons you drank?,” they often said they used it to express their anger. Today we search for new mediums to express our emotions.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">As Allen likes to remind us, we’re stuck, not sick. In the space between a stimulus and a response we try to lean into the pause and listen to our second voice. Emotional sobriety lies therein.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong><em>We can also do a brief check in with the audience about recent controversy over our political opinions.</em></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe Chisholm checks back in. We read a passage from his daily reflections book and he brings to our attention “Living Sober,” which was written more than 40 years after the AA Big Book was published. When those recovering were asked “what were the reasons you drank?,” they often said they used it to express their anger. Today we search for new mediums to express our emotions.
 
As Allen likes to remind us, we’re stuck, not sick. In the space between a stimulus and a response we try to lean into the pause and listen to our second voice. Emotional sobriety lies therein.
 
We can also do a brief check in with the audience about recent controversy over our political opinions.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Right-Sized Expressions]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe Chisholm checks back in. We read a passage from his daily reflections book and he brings to our attention “Living Sober,” which was written more than 40 years after the AA Big Book was published. When those recovering were asked “what were the reasons you drank?,” they often said they used it to express their anger. Today we search for new mediums to express our emotions.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">As Allen likes to remind us, we’re stuck, not sick. In the space between a stimulus and a response we try to lean into the pause and listen to our second voice. Emotional sobriety lies therein.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong><em>We can also do a brief check in with the audience about recent controversy over our political opinions.</em></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe Chisholm checks back in. We read a passage from his daily reflections book and he brings to our attention “Living Sober,” which was written more than 40 years after the AA Big Book was published. When those recovering were asked “what were the reasons you drank?,” they often said they used it to express their anger. Today we search for new mediums to express our emotions.
 
As Allen likes to remind us, we’re stuck, not sick. In the space between a stimulus and a response we try to lean into the pause and listen to our second voice. Emotional sobriety lies therein.
 
We can also do a brief check in with the audience about recent controversy over our political opinions.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:43:17</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Letting Go Never Stops]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 21:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">This week we talk about taking better lessons from our mistakes. In finding our emotional center of gravity, recognizing we’re <em>sick</em> rather than<em> stuck</em>, we try to trust the process instead of controlling the outcome.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This week we talk about taking better lessons from our mistakes. In finding our emotional center of gravity, recognizing we’re sick rather than stuck, we try to trust the process instead of controlling the outcome.
 
To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:
thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com 
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Letting Go Never Stops]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">This week we talk about taking better lessons from our mistakes. In finding our emotional center of gravity, recognizing we’re <em>sick</em> rather than<em> stuck</em>, we try to trust the process instead of controlling the outcome.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This week we talk about taking better lessons from our mistakes. In finding our emotional center of gravity, recognizing we’re sick rather than stuck, we try to trust the process instead of controlling the outcome.
 
To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:
thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com 
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:03</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[“Lift My Lamp Beside the Golden Door”]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the recent political upheaval and encroaching fascism of Trump and ICE. Allen relates the tension between our obligations to society and commitment to ourselves to a quote from Eric Fromme. Emotional sobriety is found in adapting, but not at the expense of becoming.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Then, Patrick talks to artist, organizer, and person in recovery Elizabeth Medrano. A shared impulse towards emotional sobriety, social justice, and their fellows are all part of the same continuum.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Consider donating to CHIRLA: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chirla_org?igsh=NjVhODU3cGF3NWxw">https://www.instagram.com/chirla_org?igsh=NjVhODU3cGF3NWxw</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also LATACO: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lataco?igsh=MW5vaXMydHllcGVwYQ">https://www.instagram.com/lataco?igsh=MW5vaXMydHllcGVwYQ</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Loyola Immigrant Justice Clinic: <a href="https://www.lls.edu/academics/experientiallearning/clinics/loyolaimmigrantjusticeclinic/">https://www.lls.edu/academics/experientiallearning/clinics/loyolaimmigrantjusticeclinic/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Attend the “NO KINGS” protest: <a href="https://www.nokings.org/">https://www.nokings.org/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From “The New Colossus”</p>
<p class="p1">"Give me your tired, your poor,<br /> Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,<br /> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.<br /> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,<em><br /> </em>I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.nps.gov/stli/learn/historyculture/emma-lazarus.htm">Emma Lazarus</a></span><br /> November 2, 1883</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the recent political upheaval and encroaching fascism of Trump and ICE. Allen relates the tension between our obligations to society and commitment to ourselves to a quote from Eric Fromme. Emotional sobriety is found in adapting, but not at the expense of becoming.
 
Then, Patrick talks to artist, organizer, and person in recovery Elizabeth Medrano. A shared impulse towards emotional sobriety, social justice, and their fellows are all part of the same continuum.
 
To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:
thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com 
 
Consider donating to CHIRLA: https://www.instagram.com/chirla_org?igsh=NjVhODU3cGF3NWxw
 
Also LATACO: https://www.instagram.com/lataco?igsh=MW5vaXMydHllcGVwYQ
 
Loyola Immigrant Justice Clinic: https://www.lls.edu/academics/experientiallearning/clinics/loyolaimmigrantjusticeclinic/
 
Attend the “NO KINGS” protest: https://www.nokings.org/
 
From “The New Colossus”
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
Emma Lazarus November 2, 1883
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“Lift My Lamp Beside the Golden Door”]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the recent political upheaval and encroaching fascism of Trump and ICE. Allen relates the tension between our obligations to society and commitment to ourselves to a quote from Eric Fromme. Emotional sobriety is found in adapting, but not at the expense of becoming.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Then, Patrick talks to artist, organizer, and person in recovery Elizabeth Medrano. A shared impulse towards emotional sobriety, social justice, and their fellows are all part of the same continuum.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Consider donating to CHIRLA: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chirla_org?igsh=NjVhODU3cGF3NWxw">https://www.instagram.com/chirla_org?igsh=NjVhODU3cGF3NWxw</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also LATACO: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lataco?igsh=MW5vaXMydHllcGVwYQ">https://www.instagram.com/lataco?igsh=MW5vaXMydHllcGVwYQ</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Loyola Immigrant Justice Clinic: <a href="https://www.lls.edu/academics/experientiallearning/clinics/loyolaimmigrantjusticeclinic/">https://www.lls.edu/academics/experientiallearning/clinics/loyolaimmigrantjusticeclinic/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Attend the “NO KINGS” protest: <a href="https://www.nokings.org/">https://www.nokings.org/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From “The New Colossus”</p>
<p class="p1">"Give me your tired, your poor,<br /> Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,<br /> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.<br /> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,<em><br /> </em>I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.nps.gov/stli/learn/historyculture/emma-lazarus.htm">Emma Lazarus</a></span><br /> November 2, 1883</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the recent political upheaval and encroaching fascism of Trump and ICE. Allen relates the tension between our obligations to society and commitment to ourselves to a quote from Eric Fromme. Emotional sobriety is found in adapting, but not at the expense of becoming.
 
Then, Patrick talks to artist, organizer, and person in recovery Elizabeth Medrano. A shared impulse towards emotional sobriety, social justice, and their fellows are all part of the same continuum.
 
To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:
thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com 
 
Consider donating to CHIRLA: https://www.instagram.com/chirla_org?igsh=NjVhODU3cGF3NWxw
 
Also LATACO: https://www.instagram.com/lataco?igsh=MW5vaXMydHllcGVwYQ
 
Loyola Immigrant Justice Clinic: https://www.lls.edu/academics/experientiallearning/clinics/loyolaimmigrantjusticeclinic/
 
Attend the “NO KINGS” protest: https://www.nokings.org/
 
From “The New Colossus”
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
Emma Lazarus November 2, 1883
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Recovery Capital with Samantha Duggan]]>
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                <pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2025 05:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Samantha was a psychologist before she found recovery, and her experience with the 12 Steps is just one touchstone in her evolving relationship to life in pursuit of greater emotional sobriety. This week she chats with Allen and Thom about her recent experience at <em>Recovery Reimagined</em> in Dublin, what we mean by “Recovery Capital”, and her new book.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Samantha’s book <em>Channels of Peace </em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Channels-Peace-Science-Transform-Family/dp/1036921093/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1CA8YXJOZNJX0&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Eeb_yADzzLXRrdfkWt8AW8CZJfEJKGcjE8qk3LqtOhnu7sKdRT8rL6BdFjKU_iDXBpyp57TVN-gMy9oQ6E4g7yI_C_jj7MjE3C1xZp1d1NY.u5NTEZQrA0ypUJEOO479kCdbK8qGsUpC_9pDA3yzeDI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=samantha+duggan&amp;qid=1749255715&amp;sprefix=samantha+duggan+book%2Caps%2C297&amp;sr=8-1">HERE</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:</p>
<p class="p1">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Samantha was a psychologist before she found recovery, and her experience with the 12 Steps is just one touchstone in her evolving relationship to life in pursuit of greater emotional sobriety. This week she chats with Allen and Thom about her recent experience at Recovery Reimagined in Dublin, what we mean by “Recovery Capital”, and her new book.
 
Samantha’s book Channels of Peace HERE
 
To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:
thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Recovery Capital with Samantha Duggan]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Samantha was a psychologist before she found recovery, and her experience with the 12 Steps is just one touchstone in her evolving relationship to life in pursuit of greater emotional sobriety. This week she chats with Allen and Thom about her recent experience at <em>Recovery Reimagined</em> in Dublin, what we mean by “Recovery Capital”, and her new book.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Samantha’s book <em>Channels of Peace </em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Channels-Peace-Science-Transform-Family/dp/1036921093/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1CA8YXJOZNJX0&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Eeb_yADzzLXRrdfkWt8AW8CZJfEJKGcjE8qk3LqtOhnu7sKdRT8rL6BdFjKU_iDXBpyp57TVN-gMy9oQ6E4g7yI_C_jj7MjE3C1xZp1d1NY.u5NTEZQrA0ypUJEOO479kCdbK8qGsUpC_9pDA3yzeDI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=samantha+duggan&amp;qid=1749255715&amp;sprefix=samantha+duggan+book%2Caps%2C297&amp;sr=8-1">HERE</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:</p>
<p class="p1">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow us on social media.</p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod</p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">https://zoom.us/j/330149513</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 375986</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Samantha was a psychologist before she found recovery, and her experience with the 12 Steps is just one touchstone in her evolving relationship to life in pursuit of greater emotional sobriety. This week she chats with Allen and Thom about her recent experience at Recovery Reimagined in Dublin, what we mean by “Recovery Capital”, and her new book.
 
Samantha’s book Channels of Peace HERE
 
To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:
thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Staying In]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 16:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Having returned from the second annual Recovery Reimagined conference in Dublin, Patrick reflects on the passing of a longtime sober friend who took his own life. Allen and Thom offer their own professional and personal experiences with suicide, depression and “anti-self”, which maximizes our life’s problems while minimizing the resources we have to deal with them.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Some of R.T. Castleberry’s poetry: <a href="https://mockingheartreview.com/archives/volume-5-issue-1/poems-to-start-the-decade/r-t-castleberry/">https://mockingheartreview.com/archives/volume-5-issue-1/poems-to-start-the-decade/r-t-castleberry/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://writingdisorder.com/r-t-castleberry-poetry-2/">https://writingdisorder.com/r-t-castleberry-poetry-2/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The closing song “No Other Choice to Choose” is by Herman Kluge &amp; Paul Boedeker from Society of Little Friends</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From our last episode, Carl Erik Fisher’s Flourishing After Addiction podcast:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1581713114">https://pod.link/1581713114</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Having returned from the second annual Recovery Reimagined conference in Dublin, Patrick reflects on the passing of a longtime sober friend who took his own life. Allen and Thom offer their own professional and personal experiences with suicide, depression and “anti-self”, which maximizes our life’s problems while minimizing the resources we have to deal with them.
 
To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:
thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
 
Some of R.T. Castleberry’s poetry: https://mockingheartreview.com/archives/volume-5-issue-1/poems-to-start-the-decade/r-t-castleberry/
 
https://writingdisorder.com/r-t-castleberry-poetry-2/
 
The closing song “No Other Choice to Choose” is by Herman Kluge & Paul Boedeker from Society of Little Friends
 
From our last episode, Carl Erik Fisher’s Flourishing After Addiction podcast:
https://pod.link/1581713114
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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                    <![CDATA[Staying In]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Having returned from the second annual Recovery Reimagined conference in Dublin, Patrick reflects on the passing of a longtime sober friend who took his own life. Allen and Thom offer their own professional and personal experiences with suicide, depression and “anti-self”, which maximizes our life’s problems while minimizing the resources we have to deal with them.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Some of R.T. Castleberry’s poetry: <a href="https://mockingheartreview.com/archives/volume-5-issue-1/poems-to-start-the-decade/r-t-castleberry/">https://mockingheartreview.com/archives/volume-5-issue-1/poems-to-start-the-decade/r-t-castleberry/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://writingdisorder.com/r-t-castleberry-poetry-2/">https://writingdisorder.com/r-t-castleberry-poetry-2/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The closing song “No Other Choice to Choose” is by Herman Kluge &amp; Paul Boedeker from Society of Little Friends</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From our last episode, Carl Erik Fisher’s Flourishing After Addiction podcast:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1581713114">https://pod.link/1581713114</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Having returned from the second annual Recovery Reimagined conference in Dublin, Patrick reflects on the passing of a longtime sober friend who took his own life. Allen and Thom offer their own professional and personal experiences with suicide, depression and “anti-self”, which maximizes our life’s problems while minimizing the resources we have to deal with them.
 
To participate in Thom’s Inner Child Workshop on Saturday, June 21st @ 10am CST, email him here:
thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
 
Some of R.T. Castleberry’s poetry: https://mockingheartreview.com/archives/volume-5-issue-1/poems-to-start-the-decade/r-t-castleberry/
 
https://writingdisorder.com/r-t-castleberry-poetry-2/
 
The closing song “No Other Choice to Choose” is by Herman Kluge & Paul Boedeker from Society of Little Friends
 
From our last episode, Carl Erik Fisher’s Flourishing After Addiction podcast:
https://pod.link/1581713114
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Bright Sunshine in the Rat Park with Dr. Carl Erik Fisher]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2025 21:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick welcome addiction psychiatrist Carl Erik Fisher of Columbia University to discuss emotional sobriety. In the pursuit of “making sense of what happened to him” after his addiction hit a point of critical mass and he decided to seek help, Dr. Fisher wrote <em>The Urge: Our History of Addiction</em> and began regular episodes of the <em>Flourishing After Addiction</em> podcast to look for answers. How did we get here, how are we recovering, and how can we carry a message of education and hope?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Our relationship to community, to Self, and to our own self-esteem are dynamics which must evolve for us to find that “quiet place in bright sunshine” Bill mentions in his 1958 letter.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Dr. Fisher on his website:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.carlerikfisher.com">https://www.carlerikfisher.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">His podcast, Flourishing After Addiction:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1581713114">https://pod.link/1581713114</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen and Patrick will be in Dublin for the Recovery Reimagined conference next week, which can be attended virtually or in person:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick welcome addiction psychiatrist Carl Erik Fisher of Columbia University to discuss emotional sobriety. In the pursuit of “making sense of what happened to him” after his addiction hit a point of critical mass and he decided to seek help, Dr. Fisher wrote The Urge: Our History of Addiction and began regular episodes of the Flourishing After Addiction podcast to look for answers. How did we get here, how are we recovering, and how can we carry a message of education and hope?
 
Our relationship to community, to Self, and to our own self-esteem are dynamics which must evolve for us to find that “quiet place in bright sunshine” Bill mentions in his 1958 letter.
 
Learn more about Dr. Fisher on his website:
https://www.carlerikfisher.com
 
His podcast, Flourishing After Addiction:
https://pod.link/1581713114
 
Allen and Patrick will be in Dublin for the Recovery Reimagined conference next week, which can be attended virtually or in person:
https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Bright Sunshine in the Rat Park with Dr. Carl Erik Fisher]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick welcome addiction psychiatrist Carl Erik Fisher of Columbia University to discuss emotional sobriety. In the pursuit of “making sense of what happened to him” after his addiction hit a point of critical mass and he decided to seek help, Dr. Fisher wrote <em>The Urge: Our History of Addiction</em> and began regular episodes of the <em>Flourishing After Addiction</em> podcast to look for answers. How did we get here, how are we recovering, and how can we carry a message of education and hope?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Our relationship to community, to Self, and to our own self-esteem are dynamics which must evolve for us to find that “quiet place in bright sunshine” Bill mentions in his 1958 letter.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Dr. Fisher on his website:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.carlerikfisher.com">https://www.carlerikfisher.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">His podcast, Flourishing After Addiction:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://pod.link/1581713114">https://pod.link/1581713114</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen and Patrick will be in Dublin for the Recovery Reimagined conference next week, which can be attended virtually or in person:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick welcome addiction psychiatrist Carl Erik Fisher of Columbia University to discuss emotional sobriety. In the pursuit of “making sense of what happened to him” after his addiction hit a point of critical mass and he decided to seek help, Dr. Fisher wrote The Urge: Our History of Addiction and began regular episodes of the Flourishing After Addiction podcast to look for answers. How did we get here, how are we recovering, and how can we carry a message of education and hope?
 
Our relationship to community, to Self, and to our own self-esteem are dynamics which must evolve for us to find that “quiet place in bright sunshine” Bill mentions in his 1958 letter.
 
Learn more about Dr. Fisher on his website:
https://www.carlerikfisher.com
 
His podcast, Flourishing After Addiction:
https://pod.link/1581713114
 
Allen and Patrick will be in Dublin for the Recovery Reimagined conference next week, which can be attended virtually or in person:
https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:48:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Flowing with Becoming feat. Joe C.]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2025 01:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">When we try to wrestle security from life, we often get pinned. Joe Chisholm offers us this:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Dee Hock (1929-2022) wrote: </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">“Life is not about control; it is not about getting; it is not about having or knowing. It is not even about being. Life is eternal, perpetual becoming, or it is nothing. Becoming is not a thing to be known, commanded, or controlled. It is a magnificent, mysterious odyssey to be experienced.”</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Near the end of <em>Twelve Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>, it captures the same becoming (the journey) vs. the outcome (controlling): </p>
<p class="p1">"Emotional stability is achieved in our lives by becoming aware of our toxic beliefs and unenforceable rules, the ideas that make our emotional balance dependent on external conditions.... </p>
<p class="p1">Once we become aware of these unenforceable rules, we must surrender them. We need to move toward an attitude of “I am okay even if this or that happens,” and away from the idea that “I am okay only if this happens or that happens.” This is emotional freedom. This freedom brings more stability to our canoe; we might even dance in it if we wish!"</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2">Patrick and Allen will be attending Friendly Circle Berlin's "Recovery Reimagined" event in Dublin, more info here: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[When we try to wrestle security from life, we often get pinned. Joe Chisholm offers us this:
 
Dee Hock (1929-2022) wrote: 
 
“Life is not about control; it is not about getting; it is not about having or knowing. It is not even about being. Life is eternal, perpetual becoming, or it is nothing. Becoming is not a thing to be known, commanded, or controlled. It is a magnificent, mysterious odyssey to be experienced.”
 
Near the end of Twelve Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety, it captures the same becoming (the journey) vs. the outcome (controlling): 
"Emotional stability is achieved in our lives by becoming aware of our toxic beliefs and unenforceable rules, the ideas that make our emotional balance dependent on external conditions.... 
Once we become aware of these unenforceable rules, we must surrender them. We need to move toward an attitude of “I am okay even if this or that happens,” and away from the idea that “I am okay only if this happens or that happens.” This is emotional freedom. This freedom brings more stability to our canoe; we might even dance in it if we wish!"
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Patrick and Allen will be attending Friendly Circle Berlin's "Recovery Reimagined" event in Dublin, more info here: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 ]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Flowing with Becoming feat. Joe C.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">When we try to wrestle security from life, we often get pinned. Joe Chisholm offers us this:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Dee Hock (1929-2022) wrote: </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">“Life is not about control; it is not about getting; it is not about having or knowing. It is not even about being. Life is eternal, perpetual becoming, or it is nothing. Becoming is not a thing to be known, commanded, or controlled. It is a magnificent, mysterious odyssey to be experienced.”</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Near the end of <em>Twelve Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>, it captures the same becoming (the journey) vs. the outcome (controlling): </p>
<p class="p1">"Emotional stability is achieved in our lives by becoming aware of our toxic beliefs and unenforceable rules, the ideas that make our emotional balance dependent on external conditions.... </p>
<p class="p1">Once we become aware of these unenforceable rules, we must surrender them. We need to move toward an attitude of “I am okay even if this or that happens,” and away from the idea that “I am okay only if this happens or that happens.” This is emotional freedom. This freedom brings more stability to our canoe; we might even dance in it if we wish!"</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2">Patrick and Allen will be attending Friendly Circle Berlin's "Recovery Reimagined" event in Dublin, more info here: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When we try to wrestle security from life, we often get pinned. Joe Chisholm offers us this:
 
Dee Hock (1929-2022) wrote: 
 
“Life is not about control; it is not about getting; it is not about having or knowing. It is not even about being. Life is eternal, perpetual becoming, or it is nothing. Becoming is not a thing to be known, commanded, or controlled. It is a magnificent, mysterious odyssey to be experienced.”
 
Near the end of Twelve Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety, it captures the same becoming (the journey) vs. the outcome (controlling): 
"Emotional stability is achieved in our lives by becoming aware of our toxic beliefs and unenforceable rules, the ideas that make our emotional balance dependent on external conditions.... 
Once we become aware of these unenforceable rules, we must surrender them. We need to move toward an attitude of “I am okay even if this or that happens,” and away from the idea that “I am okay only if this happens or that happens.” This is emotional freedom. This freedom brings more stability to our canoe; we might even dance in it if we wish!"
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Patrick and Allen will be attending Friendly Circle Berlin's "Recovery Reimagined" event in Dublin, more info here: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 ]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Inukshuk with Julia Heidmann]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2025 15:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Frequent collaborator and fellow recoverer Julia Heidmann stops by to talk about the role emotional sobriety has played in her relationships with others and herself.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>From our friends in Canada:</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>“Inukshuk, pronounced (in-ook-shook), is a stone monument erected in the image of humans. One of its purposes was to serve as direction markers in the harsh and desolate Arctic. It was a tool of survival and a symbol of unselfish acts of the Inuit people.</em></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>The Inukshuk symbolizes co-operation, balance and unselfishness: the idea that teaching and group effect is greater than individual effort.</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>Each stone is a separate entity, yet each supports and is supported by the one above and the one below it. No one piece is any more or any less important than the other.</em></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>Its strength lies in its unity. Its significance comes from its meaning as a whole. The Inukshuk reminds us of our interdependent responsibilities to invest our efforts today, to direct a better way for all of us tomorrow.”</em></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen and Patrick will soon be visiting Dublin, for Friendly Circle Berlin's "Recovery Reimagined 2025", details below:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Frequent collaborator and fellow recoverer Julia Heidmann stops by to talk about the role emotional sobriety has played in her relationships with others and herself.
 
From our friends in Canada:
 
“Inukshuk, pronounced (in-ook-shook), is a stone monument erected in the image of humans. One of its purposes was to serve as direction markers in the harsh and desolate Arctic. It was a tool of survival and a symbol of unselfish acts of the Inuit people.
 
The Inukshuk symbolizes co-operation, balance and unselfishness: the idea that teaching and group effect is greater than individual effort.
Each stone is a separate entity, yet each supports and is supported by the one above and the one below it. No one piece is any more or any less important than the other.
 
Its strength lies in its unity. Its significance comes from its meaning as a whole. The Inukshuk reminds us of our interdependent responsibilities to invest our efforts today, to direct a better way for all of us tomorrow.”
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Allen and Patrick will soon be visiting Dublin, for Friendly Circle Berlin's "Recovery Reimagined 2025", details below:
 
https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Inukshuk with Julia Heidmann]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Frequent collaborator and fellow recoverer Julia Heidmann stops by to talk about the role emotional sobriety has played in her relationships with others and herself.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>From our friends in Canada:</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>“Inukshuk, pronounced (in-ook-shook), is a stone monument erected in the image of humans. One of its purposes was to serve as direction markers in the harsh and desolate Arctic. It was a tool of survival and a symbol of unselfish acts of the Inuit people.</em></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>The Inukshuk symbolizes co-operation, balance and unselfishness: the idea that teaching and group effect is greater than individual effort.</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>Each stone is a separate entity, yet each supports and is supported by the one above and the one below it. No one piece is any more or any less important than the other.</em></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>Its strength lies in its unity. Its significance comes from its meaning as a whole. The Inukshuk reminds us of our interdependent responsibilities to invest our efforts today, to direct a better way for all of us tomorrow.”</em></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Allen and Patrick will soon be visiting Dublin, for Friendly Circle Berlin's "Recovery Reimagined 2025", details below:</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Frequent collaborator and fellow recoverer Julia Heidmann stops by to talk about the role emotional sobriety has played in her relationships with others and herself.
 
From our friends in Canada:
 
“Inukshuk, pronounced (in-ook-shook), is a stone monument erected in the image of humans. One of its purposes was to serve as direction markers in the harsh and desolate Arctic. It was a tool of survival and a symbol of unselfish acts of the Inuit people.
 
The Inukshuk symbolizes co-operation, balance and unselfishness: the idea that teaching and group effect is greater than individual effort.
Each stone is a separate entity, yet each supports and is supported by the one above and the one below it. No one piece is any more or any less important than the other.
 
Its strength lies in its unity. Its significance comes from its meaning as a whole. The Inukshuk reminds us of our interdependent responsibilities to invest our efforts today, to direct a better way for all of us tomorrow.”
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Allen and Patrick will soon be visiting Dublin, for Friendly Circle Berlin's "Recovery Reimagined 2025", details below:
 
https://friendlycircleberlin.org/recovery-reimagined-2025 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:50</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Proficiency vs. Perfection]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2025 23:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the overwhelm that often occurs as we return to health, and in so doing take on more challenges in our day to day lives. How do we maintain that sense of balance and proportion without steering into paralysis or unhealthy perfectionism?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the overwhelm that often occurs as we return to health, and in so doing take on more challenges in our day to day lives. How do we maintain that sense of balance and proportion without steering into paralysis or unhealthy perfectionism?
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Proficiency vs. Perfection]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the overwhelm that often occurs as we return to health, and in so doing take on more challenges in our day to day lives. How do we maintain that sense of balance and proportion without steering into paralysis or unhealthy perfectionism?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the overwhelm that often occurs as we return to health, and in so doing take on more challenges in our day to day lives. How do we maintain that sense of balance and proportion without steering into paralysis or unhealthy perfectionism?
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:31:11</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To Be Human Is to Be Impacted]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2025 17:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Roger Andes returns after a period of recovery to talk with Thom and Patrick about forming a new relationship with our life’s challenges, including awareness of our own mortality.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Roger holds B.A. and M.A. psychology degrees, and has worked as a personal growth consultant teaching transformative personal growth skills to individuals and groups for over 50 years. He helps his clients learn to let go of self-judgment and develop greater self-compassion and self-acceptance. He also specializes in teaching his clients how to be more aware of their emotions, the relationship between their emotions and their body, and to effectively express and manage their emotions.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">He has been a certified teacher of body/emotion awareness work since 1975, and studied methods for building self-esteem and self-acceptance with psychotherapist and self-esteem theorist Nathaniel Branden, Ph.D. Roger has also worked closely with clinical psychologist Allen Berger, Ph.D. since 1985, and cofacilitates a training program in Gestalt Experiential Therapy with Dr. Berger. Roger has conducted personal growth workshops in the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Australia. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To learn more about Roger and his work, he can be contacted by email at <a href="mailto:randesma@aol.com"><span class="s1">randesma@aol.com</span></a>.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patri...</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Roger Andes returns after a period of recovery to talk with Thom and Patrick about forming a new relationship with our life’s challenges, including awareness of our own mortality.
 
Roger holds B.A. and M.A. psychology degrees, and has worked as a personal growth consultant teaching transformative personal growth skills to individuals and groups for over 50 years. He helps his clients learn to let go of self-judgment and develop greater self-compassion and self-acceptance. He also specializes in teaching his clients how to be more aware of their emotions, the relationship between their emotions and their body, and to effectively express and manage their emotions.
 
He has been a certified teacher of body/emotion awareness work since 1975, and studied methods for building self-esteem and self-acceptance with psychotherapist and self-esteem theorist Nathaniel Branden, Ph.D. Roger has also worked closely with clinical psychologist Allen Berger, Ph.D. since 1985, and cofacilitates a training program in Gestalt Experiential Therapy with Dr. Berger. Roger has conducted personal growth workshops in the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Australia. 
 
To learn more about Roger and his work, he can be contacted by email at randesma@aol.com.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patri...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To Be Human Is to Be Impacted]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Roger Andes returns after a period of recovery to talk with Thom and Patrick about forming a new relationship with our life’s challenges, including awareness of our own mortality.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Roger holds B.A. and M.A. psychology degrees, and has worked as a personal growth consultant teaching transformative personal growth skills to individuals and groups for over 50 years. He helps his clients learn to let go of self-judgment and develop greater self-compassion and self-acceptance. He also specializes in teaching his clients how to be more aware of their emotions, the relationship between their emotions and their body, and to effectively express and manage their emotions.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">He has been a certified teacher of body/emotion awareness work since 1975, and studied methods for building self-esteem and self-acceptance with psychotherapist and self-esteem theorist Nathaniel Branden, Ph.D. Roger has also worked closely with clinical psychologist Allen Berger, Ph.D. since 1985, and cofacilitates a training program in Gestalt Experiential Therapy with Dr. Berger. Roger has conducted personal growth workshops in the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Australia. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To learn more about Roger and his work, he can be contacted by email at <a href="mailto:randesma@aol.com"><span class="s1">randesma@aol.com</span></a>.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Roger Andes returns after a period of recovery to talk with Thom and Patrick about forming a new relationship with our life’s challenges, including awareness of our own mortality.
 
Roger holds B.A. and M.A. psychology degrees, and has worked as a personal growth consultant teaching transformative personal growth skills to individuals and groups for over 50 years. He helps his clients learn to let go of self-judgment and develop greater self-compassion and self-acceptance. He also specializes in teaching his clients how to be more aware of their emotions, the relationship between their emotions and their body, and to effectively express and manage their emotions.
 
He has been a certified teacher of body/emotion awareness work since 1975, and studied methods for building self-esteem and self-acceptance with psychotherapist and self-esteem theorist Nathaniel Branden, Ph.D. Roger has also worked closely with clinical psychologist Allen Berger, Ph.D. since 1985, and cofacilitates a training program in Gestalt Experiential Therapy with Dr. Berger. Roger has conducted personal growth workshops in the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Australia. 
 
To learn more about Roger and his work, he can be contacted by email at randesma@aol.com.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patri...]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:51:35</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Gratitude, Humility, and Awe]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2025 05:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. brings an existential framework to the discussion, which dredges up Patrick’s recent brushes with mortality and Allen’s titanic wrestling with the loss of his father at a young age.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Joe C. brings an existential framework to the discussion, which dredges up Patrick’s recent brushes with mortality and Allen’s titanic wrestling with the loss of his father at a young age.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Gratitude, Humility, and Awe]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. brings an existential framework to the discussion, which dredges up Patrick’s recent brushes with mortality and Allen’s titanic wrestling with the loss of his father at a young age.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Joe C. brings an existential framework to the discussion, which dredges up Patrick’s recent brushes with mortality and Allen’s titanic wrestling with the loss of his father at a young age.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:33:43</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[For the Newcomers]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2025 14:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Acceptance of what is sets us on the road to change. While acceptance of powerlessness over alcohol, our dependencies, or lack of emotional sobriety can feel like a form of defeat, like the end of the story, experience tells us that it's only the beginning. </p>
<p class="p1">Patrick, Allen and Thom speak to the acute resistance newcomers have towards the notion of powerlessness. What we're trying to do in early recovery is change the way we’re functioning from the bottom up - no easy task!</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Acceptance of what is sets us on the road to change. While acceptance of powerlessness over alcohol, our dependencies, or lack of emotional sobriety can feel like a form of defeat, like the end of the story, experience tells us that it's only the beginning. 
Patrick, Allen and Thom speak to the acute resistance newcomers have towards the notion of powerlessness. What we're trying to do in early recovery is change the way we’re functioning from the bottom up - no easy task!
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For the Newcomers]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Acceptance of what is sets us on the road to change. While acceptance of powerlessness over alcohol, our dependencies, or lack of emotional sobriety can feel like a form of defeat, like the end of the story, experience tells us that it's only the beginning. </p>
<p class="p1">Patrick, Allen and Thom speak to the acute resistance newcomers have towards the notion of powerlessness. What we're trying to do in early recovery is change the way we’re functioning from the bottom up - no easy task!</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Acceptance of what is sets us on the road to change. While acceptance of powerlessness over alcohol, our dependencies, or lack of emotional sobriety can feel like a form of defeat, like the end of the story, experience tells us that it's only the beginning. 
Patrick, Allen and Thom speak to the acute resistance newcomers have towards the notion of powerlessness. What we're trying to do in early recovery is change the way we’re functioning from the bottom up - no easy task!
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:23:19</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Uncertainty and Emotional Sobriety]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 22:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Waiting for the other shoe to drop truly puts our ability to regulate to the test, as it reminds us how little we control, and how much of our strength derives from our environments rather than ourselves. The goal of emotional sobriety is to invert that paradigm.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Waiting for the other shoe to drop truly puts our ability to regulate to the test, as it reminds us how little we control, and how much of our strength derives from our environments rather than ourselves. The goal of emotional sobriety is to invert that paradigm.
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Uncertainty and Emotional Sobriety]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Waiting for the other shoe to drop truly puts our ability to regulate to the test, as it reminds us how little we control, and how much of our strength derives from our environments rather than ourselves. The goal of emotional sobriety is to invert that paradigm.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Waiting for the other shoe to drop truly puts our ability to regulate to the test, as it reminds us how little we control, and how much of our strength derives from our environments rather than ourselves. The goal of emotional sobriety is to invert that paradigm.
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:22:49</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Filing with the Complaint Department]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">In filing our claims with reality’s “complaint department,” we discover new ways of getting in touch with our disturbances, big and small, in order to free ourselves from unhealthy dependencies. We read some Eckhart Tolle and make fun of DOGE.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[In filing our claims with reality’s “complaint department,” we discover new ways of getting in touch with our disturbances, big and small, in order to free ourselves from unhealthy dependencies. We read some Eckhart Tolle and make fun of DOGE.
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Filing with the Complaint Department]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">In filing our claims with reality’s “complaint department,” we discover new ways of getting in touch with our disturbances, big and small, in order to free ourselves from unhealthy dependencies. We read some Eckhart Tolle and make fun of DOGE.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In filing our claims with reality’s “complaint department,” we discover new ways of getting in touch with our disturbances, big and small, in order to free ourselves from unhealthy dependencies. We read some Eckhart Tolle and make fun of DOGE.
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:28:00</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Newfound Responsibility]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 00:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. and the crew discuss their emerging conception of living responsibly with emotional sobriety. Ultimately, this depends greatly on our connection with others and our willingness to live authentically.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. and the crew discuss their emerging conception of living responsibly with emotional sobriety. Ultimately, this depends greatly on our connection with others and our willingness to live authentically.
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Newfound Responsibility]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. and the crew discuss their emerging conception of living responsibly with emotional sobriety. Ultimately, this depends greatly on our connection with others and our willingness to live authentically.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. and the crew discuss their emerging conception of living responsibly with emotional sobriety. Ultimately, this depends greatly on our connection with others and our willingness to live authentically.
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:22:42</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotions Are (Part Of) the Solution]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2025 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">A quick one this week. Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss holding onto ourselves when our relationships are in distress, fear of losing loved ones, and difficulty crying.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[A quick one this week. Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss holding onto ourselves when our relationships are in distress, fear of losing loved ones, and difficulty crying.
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotions Are (Part Of) the Solution]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">A quick one this week. Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss holding onto ourselves when our relationships are in distress, fear of losing loved ones, and difficulty crying.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A quick one this week. Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss holding onto ourselves when our relationships are in distress, fear of losing loved ones, and difficulty crying.
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Guidance vs. Advice]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Offering help to those in need without losing ourselves is the order of the day. Before giving advice, “knock on the door” first. Never proceed without a contract. And as always, whether the outcome is positive or negative, try not to take it personally!</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Offering help to those in need without losing ourselves is the order of the day. Before giving advice, “knock on the door” first. Never proceed without a contract. And as always, whether the outcome is positive or negative, try not to take it personally!
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Offering help to those in need without losing ourselves is the order of the day. Before giving advice, “knock on the door” first. Never proceed without a contract. And as always, whether the outcome is positive or negative, try not to take it personally!</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s </strong><strong><em>30 Things</em></strong><strong>: </strong><strong><em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em></strong><strong>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Offering help to those in need without losing ourselves is the order of the day. Before giving advice, “knock on the door” first. Never proceed without a contract. And as always, whether the outcome is positive or negative, try not to take it personally!
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:28:32</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Re-Solving]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. returns to kick things off with a reading from Gabor Maté’s “The Myth of Normal.” Allen and Thom return to our ongoing discussion about recovery from trauma, in which we usually encounter two traps: either ignoring the trauma, or becoming stuck in it.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. returns to kick things off with a reading from Gabor Maté’s “The Myth of Normal.” Allen and Thom return to our ongoing discussion about recovery from trauma, in which we usually encounter two traps: either ignoring the trauma, or becoming stuck in it.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Re-Solving]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. returns to kick things off with a reading from Gabor Maté’s “The Myth of Normal.” Allen and Thom return to our ongoing discussion about recovery from trauma, in which we usually encounter two traps: either ignoring the trauma, or becoming stuck in it.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. returns to kick things off with a reading from Gabor Maté’s “The Myth of Normal.” Allen and Thom return to our ongoing discussion about recovery from trauma, in which we usually encounter two traps: either ignoring the trauma, or becoming stuck in it.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:32:17</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[The Regret Reduction Program]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2025 00:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Thom return to familiar emotional sobriety territory of living in the pauses and managing our reactions to fears both real and imagined, which this time revolve around recent Presidential shenanigans.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Thom return to familiar emotional sobriety territory of living in the pauses and managing our reactions to fears both real and imagined, which this time revolve around recent Presidential shenanigans.
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Thom return to familiar emotional sobriety territory of living in the pauses and managing our reactions to fears both real and imagined, which this time revolve around recent Presidential shenanigans.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Thom return to familiar emotional sobriety territory of living in the pauses and managing our reactions to fears both real and imagined, which this time revolve around recent Presidential shenanigans.
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety and Love]]>
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                <pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2025 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Returning to our definition of a more mature love, challenging not the concept of “self” entirely, but an expanding our sense of self to include others, embracing relationships. We only get better at this by practicing!</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More about Thom’s book “What Love Is” on his website: https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Actor Michael Shannon on love: <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/nx-s1-5272576/actor-michael-shannon-explains-how-his-idea-of-love-has-changed-as-hes-grown-older">https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/nx-s1-5272576/actor-michael-shannon-explains-how-his-idea-of-love-has-changed-as-hes-grown-older</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Returning to our definition of a more mature love, challenging not the concept of “self” entirely, but an expanding our sense of self to include others, embracing relationships. We only get better at this by practicing!
 
More about Thom’s book “What Love Is” on his website: https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books
 
Actor Michael Shannon on love: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/nx-s1-5272576/actor-michael-shannon-explains-how-his-idea-of-love-has-changed-as-hes-grown-older
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Returning to our definition of a more mature love, challenging not the concept of “self” entirely, but an expanding our sense of self to include others, embracing relationships. We only get better at this by practicing!</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More about Thom’s book “What Love Is” on his website: https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Actor Michael Shannon on love: <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/nx-s1-5272576/actor-michael-shannon-explains-how-his-idea-of-love-has-changed-as-hes-grown-older">https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/nx-s1-5272576/actor-michael-shannon-explains-how-his-idea-of-love-has-changed-as-hes-grown-older</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Returning to our definition of a more mature love, challenging not the concept of “self” entirely, but an expanding our sense of self to include others, embracing relationships. We only get better at this by practicing!
 
More about Thom’s book “What Love Is” on his website: https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books
 
Actor Michael Shannon on love: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/nx-s1-5272576/actor-michael-shannon-explains-how-his-idea-of-love-has-changed-as-hes-grown-older
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Seeing More, Seeing Further]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2025 21:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Picking up the discussion from last week, in crafting our emotionally sober foundation and cultivating our awareness, what do we need to be aware of to fully “see”? What we’re aware of and what we’re conscious of is determined by our current level of development.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Picking up the discussion from last week, in crafting our emotionally sober foundation and cultivating our awareness, what do we need to be aware of to fully “see”? What we’re aware of and what we’re conscious of is determined by our current level of development.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Picking up the discussion from last week, in crafting our emotionally sober foundation and cultivating our awareness, what do we need to be aware of to fully “see”? What we’re aware of and what we’re conscious of is determined by our current level of development.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Picking up the discussion from last week, in crafting our emotionally sober foundation and cultivating our awareness, what do we need to be aware of to fully “see”? What we’re aware of and what we’re conscious of is determined by our current level of development.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:19:50</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Awareness is the Foundation]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Our awareness is what we use to make contact with the world. The quality of that contact will determine how well we can cope with or adapt to any situation that we’re facing. If our awareness is entirely focused on others instead of ourselves, our contact will be diminished, just as the same is true if the polarity shifts the other way. Our ability to respond to situations will be compromised if our awareness is compromised.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Our awareness is what we use to make contact with the world. The quality of that contact will determine how well we can cope with or adapt to any situation that we’re facing. If our awareness is entirely focused on others instead of ourselves, our contact will be diminished, just as the same is true if the polarity shifts the other way. Our ability to respond to situations will be compromised if our awareness is compromised.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Awareness is the Foundation]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Our awareness is what we use to make contact with the world. The quality of that contact will determine how well we can cope with or adapt to any situation that we’re facing. If our awareness is entirely focused on others instead of ourselves, our contact will be diminished, just as the same is true if the polarity shifts the other way. Our ability to respond to situations will be compromised if our awareness is compromised.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Our awareness is what we use to make contact with the world. The quality of that contact will determine how well we can cope with or adapt to any situation that we’re facing. If our awareness is entirely focused on others instead of ourselves, our contact will be diminished, just as the same is true if the polarity shifts the other way. Our ability to respond to situations will be compromised if our awareness is compromised.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Surviving Fire]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2025 23:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Patrick and Allen deal with their own fears and resentments surrounding the Los Angeles wildfires. Patrick welcomes to the pod Los Angeles residents Josh S. and Danny B. to discuss how this natural disaster has touched them and their loved ones, stress testing their own recoveries. The appropriate alignment with reality that emotional sobriety entails puts us in touch with the darker side of human nature as well as the light. We spur to action but leave space for the grief that must occur for us to fully heal.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Help Josh’s family who lost their home in the fire: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-tahitian-terrace?attribution_id=sl:de312710-2751-446c-ab35-23c560a4dd82&amp;utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&amp;utm_medium=customer&amp;utm_source=copy_link">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-tahitian-terrace?attribution_id=sl:de312710-2751-446c-ab35-23c560a4dd82&amp;utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&amp;utm_medium=customer&amp;utm_source=copy_link</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Help LA residents via Mutual Aid: <a href="https://mutualaidla.org/?emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;ceid=4422517&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdckLC6BFXxxJgJ3HUjE2Bi-c7zAlJ5hUTJBQMzZuTcwKaTlrPx1MxFWWQ_aem_lNwA3Zfz4dbgxmVoxIkS-A">https://mutualaidla.org/?emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;ceid=4422517&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdckLC6BFXxxJgJ3HUjE2Bi-c7zAlJ5hUTJBQMzZuTcwKaTlrPx1MxFWWQ_aem_lNwA3Zfz4dbgxmVoxIkS-A</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Support for undocumented people affected by the fires: <a href="https://www.805undocufund.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xjlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHc0zcbzTtJiyPfZLaNXTtlkMzpJqwa6W4-cWHF1PtSNcp-d33ZmyLVCEkQ_aem_t1WAhEPkScvNXTW-HwSN9w">https://www.805undocufund.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xjlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHc0zcbzTtJiyPfZLaNXTtlkMzpJqwa6W4-cWHF1PtSNcp-d33ZmyLVCEkQ_aem_t1WAhEPkScvNXTW-HwSN9w</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Support for essential workers impacted the fires: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-essential-workers-impacted-by-los-angeles-fires?attribution_id=sl%3Afa105a08-8bf8-41d8-a5a4-6d93c84537a1&amp;emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;ceid=4422517&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xodleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHUerRQvnXSUMFRy0DFjnkhcrTYluuACTkuYVi_MrAKCMaauF6-7CrKHv9g_aem_-8ly1Ue1HOs8rW0KXCfFgg">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-essential-workers-impacted-by-los-angeles-fires?attribution_id=sl%3Afa105a08-8bf8-41d8-a5a4-6d93c84537a1&amp;emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;ceid=4422517&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xodleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHUerRQvnXSUMFRy0DFjnkhcrTYluuACTkuYVi_MrAKCMaauF6-7CrKHv9g_aem_-8ly1Ue1HOs8rW0KXCfFgg</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_D...</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Patrick and Allen deal with their own fears and resentments surrounding the Los Angeles wildfires. Patrick welcomes to the pod Los Angeles residents Josh S. and Danny B. to discuss how this natural disaster has touched them and their loved ones, stress testing their own recoveries. The appropriate alignment with reality that emotional sobriety entails puts us in touch with the darker side of human nature as well as the light. We spur to action but leave space for the grief that must occur for us to fully heal.
 
Help Josh’s family who lost their home in the fire: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-tahitian-terrace?attribution_id=sl:de312710-2751-446c-ab35-23c560a4dd82&utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
 
Help LA residents via Mutual Aid: https://mutualaidla.org/?emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&ceid=4422517&fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdckLC6BFXxxJgJ3HUjE2Bi-c7zAlJ5hUTJBQMzZuTcwKaTlrPx1MxFWWQ_aem_lNwA3Zfz4dbgxmVoxIkS-A
 
Support for undocumented people affected by the fires: https://www.805undocufund.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xjlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHc0zcbzTtJiyPfZLaNXTtlkMzpJqwa6W4-cWHF1PtSNcp-d33ZmyLVCEkQ_aem_t1WAhEPkScvNXTW-HwSN9w
 
Support for essential workers impacted the fires: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-essential-workers-impacted-by-los-angeles-fires?attribution_id=sl%3Afa105a08-8bf8-41d8-a5a4-6d93c84537a1&emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&ceid=4422517&fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xodleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHUerRQvnXSUMFRy0DFjnkhcrTYluuACTkuYVi_MrAKCMaauF6-7CrKHv9g_aem_-8ly1Ue1HOs8rW0KXCfFgg
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_D...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Surviving Fire]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Patrick and Allen deal with their own fears and resentments surrounding the Los Angeles wildfires. Patrick welcomes to the pod Los Angeles residents Josh S. and Danny B. to discuss how this natural disaster has touched them and their loved ones, stress testing their own recoveries. The appropriate alignment with reality that emotional sobriety entails puts us in touch with the darker side of human nature as well as the light. We spur to action but leave space for the grief that must occur for us to fully heal.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Help Josh’s family who lost their home in the fire: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-tahitian-terrace?attribution_id=sl:de312710-2751-446c-ab35-23c560a4dd82&amp;utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&amp;utm_medium=customer&amp;utm_source=copy_link">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-tahitian-terrace?attribution_id=sl:de312710-2751-446c-ab35-23c560a4dd82&amp;utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&amp;utm_medium=customer&amp;utm_source=copy_link</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Help LA residents via Mutual Aid: <a href="https://mutualaidla.org/?emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;ceid=4422517&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdckLC6BFXxxJgJ3HUjE2Bi-c7zAlJ5hUTJBQMzZuTcwKaTlrPx1MxFWWQ_aem_lNwA3Zfz4dbgxmVoxIkS-A">https://mutualaidla.org/?emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;ceid=4422517&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdckLC6BFXxxJgJ3HUjE2Bi-c7zAlJ5hUTJBQMzZuTcwKaTlrPx1MxFWWQ_aem_lNwA3Zfz4dbgxmVoxIkS-A</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Support for undocumented people affected by the fires: <a href="https://www.805undocufund.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xjlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHc0zcbzTtJiyPfZLaNXTtlkMzpJqwa6W4-cWHF1PtSNcp-d33ZmyLVCEkQ_aem_t1WAhEPkScvNXTW-HwSN9w">https://www.805undocufund.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xjlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHc0zcbzTtJiyPfZLaNXTtlkMzpJqwa6W4-cWHF1PtSNcp-d33ZmyLVCEkQ_aem_t1WAhEPkScvNXTW-HwSN9w</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Support for essential workers impacted the fires: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-essential-workers-impacted-by-los-angeles-fires?attribution_id=sl%3Afa105a08-8bf8-41d8-a5a4-6d93c84537a1&amp;emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;ceid=4422517&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xodleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHUerRQvnXSUMFRy0DFjnkhcrTYluuACTkuYVi_MrAKCMaauF6-7CrKHv9g_aem_-8ly1Ue1HOs8rW0KXCfFgg">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-essential-workers-impacted-by-los-angeles-fires?attribution_id=sl%3Afa105a08-8bf8-41d8-a5a4-6d93c84537a1&amp;emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&amp;ceid=4422517&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xodleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHUerRQvnXSUMFRy0DFjnkhcrTYluuACTkuYVi_MrAKCMaauF6-7CrKHv9g_aem_-8ly1Ue1HOs8rW0KXCfFgg</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Patrick and Allen deal with their own fears and resentments surrounding the Los Angeles wildfires. Patrick welcomes to the pod Los Angeles residents Josh S. and Danny B. to discuss how this natural disaster has touched them and their loved ones, stress testing their own recoveries. The appropriate alignment with reality that emotional sobriety entails puts us in touch with the darker side of human nature as well as the light. We spur to action but leave space for the grief that must occur for us to fully heal.
 
Help Josh’s family who lost their home in the fire: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-tahitian-terrace?attribution_id=sl:de312710-2751-446c-ab35-23c560a4dd82&utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
 
Help LA residents via Mutual Aid: https://mutualaidla.org/?emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&ceid=4422517&fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdckLC6BFXxxJgJ3HUjE2Bi-c7zAlJ5hUTJBQMzZuTcwKaTlrPx1MxFWWQ_aem_lNwA3Zfz4dbgxmVoxIkS-A
 
Support for undocumented people affected by the fires: https://www.805undocufund.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xjlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHc0zcbzTtJiyPfZLaNXTtlkMzpJqwa6W4-cWHF1PtSNcp-d33ZmyLVCEkQ_aem_t1WAhEPkScvNXTW-HwSN9w
 
Support for essential workers impacted the fires: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-essential-workers-impacted-by-los-angeles-fires?attribution_id=sl%3Afa105a08-8bf8-41d8-a5a4-6d93c84537a1&emci=9359acf2-2fcd-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&emdi=0e6045c4-9bd2-ef11-88d0-0022482a9d92&ceid=4422517&fbclid=IwY2xjawH3xodleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHUerRQvnXSUMFRy0DFjnkhcrTYluuACTkuYVi_MrAKCMaauF6-7CrKHv9g_aem_-8ly1Ue1HOs8rW0KXCfFgg
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_D...]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:47:47</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Post-Traumatic Gains]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2025 20:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Why are some people surpassingly resilient in sobriety, not only restoring to their wellness conditions pre-alcoholism and pre-trauma, but emerging even better than they were before? Conversely, why do some of us languish in stress and depression as a new normal, post alcohol, drugs, or traumatic exposure?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Why are some people surpassingly resilient in sobriety, not only restoring to their wellness conditions pre-alcoholism and pre-trauma, but emerging even better than they were before? Conversely, why do some of us languish in stress and depression as a new normal, post alcohol, drugs, or traumatic exposure?
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Post-Traumatic Gains]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Why are some people surpassingly resilient in sobriety, not only restoring to their wellness conditions pre-alcoholism and pre-trauma, but emerging even better than they were before? Conversely, why do some of us languish in stress and depression as a new normal, post alcohol, drugs, or traumatic exposure?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Why are some people surpassingly resilient in sobriety, not only restoring to their wellness conditions pre-alcoholism and pre-trauma, but emerging even better than they were before? Conversely, why do some of us languish in stress and depression as a new normal, post alcohol, drugs, or traumatic exposure?
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:33:00</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[2024 in Review]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Responsibility creates empowerment. Closing this year of the podcast as we look ahead to 2025, Allen, Thom, and Patrick consider the evolution of the concept of emotional sobriety. So much of it comes down to relationships. Standing for ourselves while continuing to show up for others. The more we allow for flexibility, the freer we become. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Responsibility creates empowerment. Closing this year of the podcast as we look ahead to 2025, Allen, Thom, and Patrick consider the evolution of the concept of emotional sobriety. So much of it comes down to relationships. Standing for ourselves while continuing to show up for others. The more we allow for flexibility, the freer we become. 
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[2024 in Review]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>171</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Responsibility creates empowerment. Closing this year of the podcast as we look ahead to 2025, Allen, Thom, and Patrick consider the evolution of the concept of emotional sobriety. So much of it comes down to relationships. Standing for ourselves while continuing to show up for others. The more we allow for flexibility, the freer we become. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Responsibility creates empowerment. Closing this year of the podcast as we look ahead to 2025, Allen, Thom, and Patrick consider the evolution of the concept of emotional sobriety. So much of it comes down to relationships. Standing for ourselves while continuing to show up for others. The more we allow for flexibility, the freer we become. 
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lucky Attachments]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2024 02:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">A quick one, before Christmas - Thom and Patrick talk about their sideways shuffle towards emotional sobriety, accepting the things they cannot change and locating the courage to change the things they can.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A quick one, before Christmas - Thom and Patrick talk about their sideways shuffle towards emotional sobriety, accepting the things they cannot change and locating the courage to change the things they can.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lucky Attachments]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">A quick one, before Christmas - Thom and Patrick talk about their sideways shuffle towards emotional sobriety, accepting the things they cannot change and locating the courage to change the things they can.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A quick one, before Christmas - Thom and Patrick talk about their sideways shuffle towards emotional sobriety, accepting the things they cannot change and locating the courage to change the things they can.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Any Port in a Storm]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2024 00:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Joe, and Patrick continue their ongoing discussion of the holiday season, encountering new challenges and opportunities to hold onto themselves while showing up for others.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Joe, and Patrick continue their ongoing discussion of the holiday season, encountering new challenges and opportunities to hold onto themselves while showing up for others.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Any Port in a Storm]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Joe, and Patrick continue their ongoing discussion of the holiday season, encountering new challenges and opportunities to hold onto themselves while showing up for others.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626"><span class="s1">https://pod.link/1460539626</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/"><span class="s1">https://abphd.com/events/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Joe, and Patrick continue their ongoing discussion of the holiday season, encountering new challenges and opportunities to hold onto themselves while showing up for others.
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Early Holiday Observations with Joe C.]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom, Patrick and Joe bring to the conversation their individual anticipations and dreads of the Thanksgiving holiday to come. The emotional sobriety philosophy and practice - now as much as ever - has the capacity to ground us.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Thom, Patrick and Joe bring to the conversation their individual anticipations and dreads of the Thanksgiving holiday to come. The emotional sobriety philosophy and practice - now as much as ever - has the capacity to ground us.
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Early Holiday Observations with Joe C.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom, Patrick and Joe bring to the conversation their individual anticipations and dreads of the Thanksgiving holiday to come. The emotional sobriety philosophy and practice - now as much as ever - has the capacity to ground us.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom, Patrick and Joe bring to the conversation their individual anticipations and dreads of the Thanksgiving holiday to come. The emotional sobriety philosophy and practice - now as much as ever - has the capacity to ground us.
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read Bill Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Acorn to Oak Tree with Herb K.]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Four of us take stock of our personal arcs towards greater emotional sobriety. Happiness, as Herb Kaighan frames it, isn’t a product of the work we do. It’s a <em>byproduct</em> of our relationships with a life of meaning and purpose, as well as our contributions to humanity. Thom advises self-compassion coupled with personal responsibility - so that we’re keeping ourselves accountable but through a language of love instead of hate. Allen underlines the fact that emotional sobriety isn’t something we arrive at passively. We need to foreground it to bring it into being.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Four of us take stock of our personal arcs towards greater emotional sobriety. Happiness, as Herb Kaighan frames it, isn’t a product of the work we do. It’s a byproduct of our relationships with a life of meaning and purpose, as well as our contributions to humanity. Thom advises self-compassion coupled with personal responsibility - so that we’re keeping ourselves accountable but through a language of love instead of hate. Allen underlines the fact that emotional sobriety isn’t something we arrive at passively. We need to foreground it to bring it into being.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Acorn to Oak Tree with Herb K.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Four of us take stock of our personal arcs towards greater emotional sobriety. Happiness, as Herb Kaighan frames it, isn’t a product of the work we do. It’s a <em>byproduct</em> of our relationships with a life of meaning and purpose, as well as our contributions to humanity. Thom advises self-compassion coupled with personal responsibility - so that we’re keeping ourselves accountable but through a language of love instead of hate. Allen underlines the fact that emotional sobriety isn’t something we arrive at passively. We need to foreground it to bring it into being.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Four of us take stock of our personal arcs towards greater emotional sobriety. Happiness, as Herb Kaighan frames it, isn’t a product of the work we do. It’s a byproduct of our relationships with a life of meaning and purpose, as well as our contributions to humanity. Thom advises self-compassion coupled with personal responsibility - so that we’re keeping ourselves accountable but through a language of love instead of hate. Allen underlines the fact that emotional sobriety isn’t something we arrive at passively. We need to foreground it to bring it into being.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Should Auld Acquaintance Be Forgot]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2024 07:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Going into yet another fraught American Presidential election, Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss their fears and feelings of debt and responsibility to their fellows. On top of the political implications that come with the event, these times of intense conflict truly put our emotional sobriety to the test.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Access a few of Thom’s political pieces:</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Open Letter: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lRuTLtClOZOKu2zmXA8RQ2lcPC4TzzbL/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lRuTLtClOZOKu2zmXA8RQ2lcPC4TzzbL/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p1">Two Things I Don’t Understand: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N-q7_50MOvDWIruov9qtMqoYJNwc2D23/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N-q7_50MOvDWIruov9qtMqoYJNwc2D23/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p1">Trump’s Amends Speech: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eKRnBKINmdj30yMCa-ZRKPK_ErZvU5j6/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eKRnBKINmdj30yMCa-ZRKPK_ErZvU5j6/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d l...</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Going into yet another fraught American Presidential election, Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss their fears and feelings of debt and responsibility to their fellows. On top of the political implications that come with the event, these times of intense conflict truly put our emotional sobriety to the test.
 
Access a few of Thom’s political pieces:
 
Open Letter: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lRuTLtClOZOKu2zmXA8RQ2lcPC4TzzbL/view?usp=sharing
Two Things I Don’t Understand: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N-q7_50MOvDWIruov9qtMqoYJNwc2D23/view?usp=sharing
Trump’s Amends Speech: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eKRnBKINmdj30yMCa-ZRKPK_ErZvU5j6/view?usp=sharing
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d l...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Should Auld Acquaintance Be Forgot]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Going into yet another fraught American Presidential election, Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss their fears and feelings of debt and responsibility to their fellows. On top of the political implications that come with the event, these times of intense conflict truly put our emotional sobriety to the test.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Access a few of Thom’s political pieces:</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Open Letter: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lRuTLtClOZOKu2zmXA8RQ2lcPC4TzzbL/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lRuTLtClOZOKu2zmXA8RQ2lcPC4TzzbL/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p1">Two Things I Don’t Understand: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N-q7_50MOvDWIruov9qtMqoYJNwc2D23/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N-q7_50MOvDWIruov9qtMqoYJNwc2D23/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p1">Trump’s Amends Speech: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eKRnBKINmdj30yMCa-ZRKPK_ErZvU5j6/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eKRnBKINmdj30yMCa-ZRKPK_ErZvU5j6/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Going into yet another fraught American Presidential election, Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss their fears and feelings of debt and responsibility to their fellows. On top of the political implications that come with the event, these times of intense conflict truly put our emotional sobriety to the test.
 
Access a few of Thom’s political pieces:
 
Open Letter: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lRuTLtClOZOKu2zmXA8RQ2lcPC4TzzbL/view?usp=sharing
Two Things I Don’t Understand: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N-q7_50MOvDWIruov9qtMqoYJNwc2D23/view?usp=sharing
Trump’s Amends Speech: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eKRnBKINmdj30yMCa-ZRKPK_ErZvU5j6/view?usp=sharing
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d l...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[How's Your Practice?]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2024 05:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Friend of the pod Howard Malitz of <em>Seasons of Recovery</em> talks about an extreme test of emotional sobriety on a recent road trip. Thom gives us an update on his recovery from cancer and advises giving people we’re crossed up with the benefit of the doubt. And if we must make assumptions about people, let’s try to make better ones!</p>
<p class="p1">Read the AA Grapevine from today’s episode - <em>The Guy Who Ruined My Meeting</em> here: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/10MlTBHrJ_U1w8JnTyN-Uvpc38AABd6XZ/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/10MlTBHrJ_U1w8JnTyN-Uvpc38AABd6XZ/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Friend of the pod Howard Malitz of Seasons of Recovery talks about an extreme test of emotional sobriety on a recent road trip. Thom gives us an update on his recovery from cancer and advises giving people we’re crossed up with the benefit of the doubt. And if we must make assumptions about people, let’s try to make better ones!
Read the AA Grapevine from today’s episode - The Guy Who Ruined My Meeting here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/10MlTBHrJ_U1w8JnTyN-Uvpc38AABd6XZ/view?usp=sharing
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[How's Your Practice?]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Friend of the pod Howard Malitz of <em>Seasons of Recovery</em> talks about an extreme test of emotional sobriety on a recent road trip. Thom gives us an update on his recovery from cancer and advises giving people we’re crossed up with the benefit of the doubt. And if we must make assumptions about people, let’s try to make better ones!</p>
<p class="p1">Read the AA Grapevine from today’s episode - <em>The Guy Who Ruined My Meeting</em> here: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/10MlTBHrJ_U1w8JnTyN-Uvpc38AABd6XZ/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/10MlTBHrJ_U1w8JnTyN-Uvpc38AABd6XZ/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read <em>30 Things</em>: <em>Practical Advice for Living Well </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Friend of the pod Howard Malitz of Seasons of Recovery talks about an extreme test of emotional sobriety on a recent road trip. Thom gives us an update on his recovery from cancer and advises giving people we’re crossed up with the benefit of the doubt. And if we must make assumptions about people, let’s try to make better ones!
Read the AA Grapevine from today’s episode - The Guy Who Ruined My Meeting here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/10MlTBHrJ_U1w8JnTyN-Uvpc38AABd6XZ/view?usp=sharing
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety as “Democratic Pluralism”]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C., Allen, and Thom welcome author William Schaberg (Bill), author of <em>30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well </em>to discuss recovery and emotional sobriety, reading a passage from his book along the way. In striving to attain unity but <em>not</em> uniformity with our fellows, we pursue what Bill refers to as “the most extreme form of democratic pluralism imaginable.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about or purchase<em> 30 Things</em>: <em> Practical Advice for Living Well</em></strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://30thingsthebook.com/">https://30thingsthebook.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read William Schaberg's <em>30 Things </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from the ICSAA conference in Orlando:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C., Allen, and Thom welcome author William Schaberg (Bill), author of 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well to discuss recovery and emotional sobriety, reading a passage from his book along the way. In striving to attain unity but not uniformity with our fellows, we pursue what Bill refers to as “the most extreme form of democratic pluralism imaginable.”
 
Learn more about or purchase 30 Things:  Practical Advice for Living Well
https://30thingsthebook.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read William Schaberg's 30 Things chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from the ICSAA conference in Orlando:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C., Allen, and Thom welcome author William Schaberg (Bill), author of <em>30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well </em>to discuss recovery and emotional sobriety, reading a passage from his book along the way. In striving to attain unity but <em>not</em> uniformity with our fellows, we pursue what Bill refers to as “the most extreme form of democratic pluralism imaginable.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about or purchase<em> 30 Things</em>: <em> Practical Advice for Living Well</em></strong></p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://30thingsthebook.com/">https://30thingsthebook.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read William Schaberg's <em>30 Things </em>chapter-by-chapter here:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.</p>
<p class="p1">ID: 875 319 1947</p>
<p class="p1">Password: 2GROWIN</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from the ICSAA conference in Orlando:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C., Allen, and Thom welcome author William Schaberg (Bill), author of 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well to discuss recovery and emotional sobriety, reading a passage from his book along the way. In striving to attain unity but not uniformity with our fellows, we pursue what Bill refers to as “the most extreme form of democratic pluralism imaginable.”
 
Learn more about or purchase 30 Things:  Practical Advice for Living Well
https://30thingsthebook.com/
 
Join an ongoing Zoom meeting wherein participants read William Schaberg's 30 Things chapter-by-chapter here:
11.00am East Coast / 4.00pm U.K.
ID: 875 319 1947
Password: 2GROWIN
 
To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from the ICSAA conference in Orlando:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Acknowledging & Accepting Another Perspective]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2024 20:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C., Allen, and Thom read from William Schaberg’s <em>30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well </em>to further explore the dismantling of “shoulds.” Our self-centeredness that’s expressed in an inability to not accept others’ feelings is also an expression of emotional dependency. One goal of emotional sobriety is to connect with others more readily and deeply. As Schaberg writes, by laying aside our judgements (unreasonable expectations; unenforceable rules), the world becomes “wider, broader and far more interesting.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about or purchase<em> 30 Things</em>:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://30thingsthebook.com/">https://30thingsthebook.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from the ICSAA conference in Orlando:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Joe C., Allen, and Thom read from William Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well to further explore the dismantling of “shoulds.” Our self-centeredness that’s expressed in an inability to not accept others’ feelings is also an expression of emotional dependency. One goal of emotional sobriety is to connect with others more readily and deeply. As Schaberg writes, by laying aside our judgements (unreasonable expectations; unenforceable rules), the world becomes “wider, broader and far more interesting.”
 
Learn more about or purchase 30 Things:
https://30thingsthebook.com/
 
To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from the ICSAA conference in Orlando:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C., Allen, and Thom read from William Schaberg’s <em>30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well </em>to further explore the dismantling of “shoulds.” Our self-centeredness that’s expressed in an inability to not accept others’ feelings is also an expression of emotional dependency. One goal of emotional sobriety is to connect with others more readily and deeply. As Schaberg writes, by laying aside our judgements (unreasonable expectations; unenforceable rules), the world becomes “wider, broader and far more interesting.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about or purchase<em> 30 Things</em>:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://30thingsthebook.com/">https://30thingsthebook.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from the ICSAA conference in Orlando:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C., Allen, and Thom read from William Schaberg’s 30 Things: Practical Advice for Living Well to further explore the dismantling of “shoulds.” Our self-centeredness that’s expressed in an inability to not accept others’ feelings is also an expression of emotional dependency. One goal of emotional sobriety is to connect with others more readily and deeply. As Schaberg writes, by laying aside our judgements (unreasonable expectations; unenforceable rules), the world becomes “wider, broader and far more interesting.”
 
Learn more about or purchase 30 Things:
https://30thingsthebook.com/
 
To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from the ICSAA conference in Orlando:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Expanding the Zone of Comfort]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2024 23:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">The fellas discuss the role of anger in emotional sobriety. We also read a thoughtful email from one of our Australian listers, about holding onto ourselves in toxic families of origin.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from their recent ICSAA conference in Orlando, FL:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[The fellas discuss the role of anger in emotional sobriety. We also read a thoughtful email from one of our Australian listers, about holding onto ourselves in toxic families of origin.
 
To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from their recent ICSAA conference in Orlando, FL:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Expanding the Zone of Comfort]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">The fellas discuss the role of anger in emotional sobriety. We also read a thoughtful email from one of our Australian listers, about holding onto ourselves in toxic families of origin.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from their recent ICSAA conference in Orlando, FL:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The fellas discuss the role of anger in emotional sobriety. We also read a thoughtful email from one of our Australian listers, about holding onto ourselves in toxic families of origin.
 
To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from their recent ICSAA conference in Orlando, FL:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:30:57</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In Pardoning, We Are Pardoned]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2024 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">On the journey towards forgiving others, we can’t bypass our grief. Thom, Patrick, and Tom Potash discuss both processing and letting go of grievance, focusing today on our families of origin. One way of looking at forgiveness is as our natural state when we aren’t holding onto old pain.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Tom Potash found his earliest inkling of what forgiving his mother could mean for his emotional sobriety in the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is hatred, let me sow love;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is injury, pardon;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is doubt, faith;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is despair, hope;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is darkness, light;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is sadness, joy.</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>to be consoled as to console,</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>to be understood as to understand,</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>to be loved as to love.</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>For it is in giving that we receive,</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.</em></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from last week’s ICSAA conference in Orlando:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Gro...</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On the journey towards forgiving others, we can’t bypass our grief. Thom, Patrick, and Tom Potash discuss both processing and letting go of grievance, focusing today on our families of origin. One way of looking at forgiveness is as our natural state when we aren’t holding onto old pain.
 
Tom Potash found his earliest inkling of what forgiving his mother could mean for his emotional sobriety in the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi:
 
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy.
O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
 
 
To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from last week’s ICSAA conference in Orlando:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Gro...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In Pardoning, We Are Pardoned]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">On the journey towards forgiving others, we can’t bypass our grief. Thom, Patrick, and Tom Potash discuss both processing and letting go of grievance, focusing today on our families of origin. One way of looking at forgiveness is as our natural state when we aren’t holding onto old pain.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Tom Potash found his earliest inkling of what forgiving his mother could mean for his emotional sobriety in the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is hatred, let me sow love;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is injury, pardon;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is doubt, faith;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is despair, hope;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is darkness, light;</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>where there is sadness, joy.</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>to be consoled as to console,</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>to be understood as to understand,</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>to be loved as to love.</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>For it is in giving that we receive,</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,</em></p>
<p class="p1"><em>and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.</em></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from last week’s ICSAA conference in Orlando:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On the journey towards forgiving others, we can’t bypass our grief. Thom, Patrick, and Tom Potash discuss both processing and letting go of grievance, focusing today on our families of origin. One way of looking at forgiveness is as our natural state when we aren’t holding onto old pain.
 
Tom Potash found his earliest inkling of what forgiving his mother could mean for his emotional sobriety in the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi:
 
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy.
O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
 
 
To listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe Chisholm, and others from last week’s ICSAA conference in Orlando:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Gro...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[He Doth Protest Too Much (Missive from ICSAA)!]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen Berger and Joe Chisholm check in from this year’s ICSAA conference in Orlando, Florida, to relay an anecdote from one of the speakers: “we aren’t <em>all</em> egomaniacs!” When we aren’t seen by our fellows, it creates an injury to our self-esteem. As we develop more differentiation (emotional sobriety), it becomes easier to not allow other people’s comments to define us. Until such time, the group conscience should look out for each other, practicing empathy and sensitivity. After all, the business of recovery is lifting other people up, so we don’t only survive but <em>thrive</em>. Another important takeaway from this secular conference: militant atheism can be just as toxic as militant theism.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Once the conference is wrapped, listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe, and others:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger and Joe Chisholm check in from this year’s ICSAA conference in Orlando, Florida, to relay an anecdote from one of the speakers: “we aren’t all egomaniacs!” When we aren’t seen by our fellows, it creates an injury to our self-esteem. As we develop more differentiation (emotional sobriety), it becomes easier to not allow other people’s comments to define us. Until such time, the group conscience should look out for each other, practicing empathy and sensitivity. After all, the business of recovery is lifting other people up, so we don’t only survive but thrive. Another important takeaway from this secular conference: militant atheism can be just as toxic as militant theism.
 
Once the conference is wrapped, listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe, and others:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[He Doth Protest Too Much (Missive from ICSAA)!]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>160</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen Berger and Joe Chisholm check in from this year’s ICSAA conference in Orlando, Florida, to relay an anecdote from one of the speakers: “we aren’t <em>all</em> egomaniacs!” When we aren’t seen by our fellows, it creates an injury to our self-esteem. As we develop more differentiation (emotional sobriety), it becomes easier to not allow other people’s comments to define us. Until such time, the group conscience should look out for each other, practicing empathy and sensitivity. After all, the business of recovery is lifting other people up, so we don’t only survive but <em>thrive</em>. Another important takeaway from this secular conference: militant atheism can be just as toxic as militant theism.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Once the conference is wrapped, listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe, and others:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger and Joe Chisholm check in from this year’s ICSAA conference in Orlando, Florida, to relay an anecdote from one of the speakers: “we aren’t all egomaniacs!” When we aren’t seen by our fellows, it creates an injury to our self-esteem. As we develop more differentiation (emotional sobriety), it becomes easier to not allow other people’s comments to define us. Until such time, the group conscience should look out for each other, practicing empathy and sensitivity. After all, the business of recovery is lifting other people up, so we don’t only survive but thrive. Another important takeaway from this secular conference: militant atheism can be just as toxic as militant theism.
 
Once the conference is wrapped, listen to pitches from, Allen, Joe, and others:
aasecular.org
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[So Worth Living]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2024 01:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick read from the AA Grapevine again and reflect on the story of someone in recovery from addiction who suffered traumatic brain injury. Emotional Sobriety promises more than just a sober stasis. True freedom is possible as we transition away from "okay if" towards "okay <em>even</em> if" framework for living our lives. </p>
<p class="p1">To read today’s AA Grapevine article, “So Worth Living,” access the .pdf at the following link: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sYq85EFs-2cdwmlLb-rE2auB0bqQ_1tA/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sYq85EFs-2cdwmlLb-rE2auB0bqQ_1tA/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the <strong>International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd</strong>, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick read from the AA Grapevine again and reflect on the story of someone in recovery from addiction who suffered traumatic brain injury. Emotional Sobriety promises more than just a sober stasis. True freedom is possible as we transition away from "okay if" towards "okay even if" framework for living our lives. 
To read today’s AA Grapevine article, “So Worth Living,” access the .pdf at the following link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sYq85EFs-2cdwmlLb-rE2auB0bqQ_1tA/view?usp=sharing
 
Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[So Worth Living]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>159</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick read from the AA Grapevine again and reflect on the story of someone in recovery from addiction who suffered traumatic brain injury. Emotional Sobriety promises more than just a sober stasis. True freedom is possible as we transition away from "okay if" towards "okay <em>even</em> if" framework for living our lives. </p>
<p class="p1">To read today’s AA Grapevine article, “So Worth Living,” access the .pdf at the following link: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sYq85EFs-2cdwmlLb-rE2auB0bqQ_1tA/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sYq85EFs-2cdwmlLb-rE2auB0bqQ_1tA/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the <strong>International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd</strong>, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick read from the AA Grapevine again and reflect on the story of someone in recovery from addiction who suffered traumatic brain injury. Emotional Sobriety promises more than just a sober stasis. True freedom is possible as we transition away from "okay if" towards "okay even if" framework for living our lives. 
To read today’s AA Grapevine article, “So Worth Living,” access the .pdf at the following link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sYq85EFs-2cdwmlLb-rE2auB0bqQ_1tA/view?usp=sharing
 
Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:30:15</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Grip Lightly]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">No matter our level of certainty about anything, emotional sobriety advises holding the truth in our hands but gripping it lightly. We find “rolling with the punches” to be much stronger survival mechanism than the inflexibility and ossification of a fixed position. This week, Allen and Thom talk more about perfectionism and freedom, which we define as having the possibility of a new experience at any given moment of our lives.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the <strong>International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd</strong>, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[No matter our level of certainty about anything, emotional sobriety advises holding the truth in our hands but gripping it lightly. We find “rolling with the punches” to be much stronger survival mechanism than the inflexibility and ossification of a fixed position. This week, Allen and Thom talk more about perfectionism and freedom, which we define as having the possibility of a new experience at any given moment of our lives.
 
Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Grip Lightly]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">No matter our level of certainty about anything, emotional sobriety advises holding the truth in our hands but gripping it lightly. We find “rolling with the punches” to be much stronger survival mechanism than the inflexibility and ossification of a fixed position. This week, Allen and Thom talk more about perfectionism and freedom, which we define as having the possibility of a new experience at any given moment of our lives.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the <strong>International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd</strong>, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[No matter our level of certainty about anything, emotional sobriety advises holding the truth in our hands but gripping it lightly. We find “rolling with the punches” to be much stronger survival mechanism than the inflexibility and ossification of a fixed position. This week, Allen and Thom talk more about perfectionism and freedom, which we define as having the possibility of a new experience at any given moment of our lives.
 
Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Challenging Core Beliefs]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Our sagely Joe Chisholm returns for heartfelt conversation about the negative self-concepts that can undermine our recoveries. Experiences which are imprinted onto us at a young age become core beliefs about ourselves which mature into unhelpful distortions. Feelings of unworthiness and shame are just a couple Thom and Patrick explore this week. The work of becoming emotionally sober involves challenging these beliefs through staying present. How do we stay present? Through the development of a daily practice.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the <strong>International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd</strong>, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Our sagely Joe Chisholm returns for heartfelt conversation about the negative self-concepts that can undermine our recoveries. Experiences which are imprinted onto us at a young age become core beliefs about ourselves which mature into unhelpful distortions. Feelings of unworthiness and shame are just a couple Thom and Patrick explore this week. The work of becoming emotionally sober involves challenging these beliefs through staying present. How do we stay present? Through the development of a daily practice.
 
Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Challenging Core Beliefs]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Our sagely Joe Chisholm returns for heartfelt conversation about the negative self-concepts that can undermine our recoveries. Experiences which are imprinted onto us at a young age become core beliefs about ourselves which mature into unhelpful distortions. Feelings of unworthiness and shame are just a couple Thom and Patrick explore this week. The work of becoming emotionally sober involves challenging these beliefs through staying present. How do we stay present? Through the development of a daily practice.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the <strong>International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd</strong>, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Our sagely Joe Chisholm returns for heartfelt conversation about the negative self-concepts that can undermine our recoveries. Experiences which are imprinted onto us at a young age become core beliefs about ourselves which mature into unhelpful distortions. Feelings of unworthiness and shame are just a couple Thom and Patrick explore this week. The work of becoming emotionally sober involves challenging these beliefs through staying present. How do we stay present? Through the development of a daily practice.
 
Coming up for our Florida or travel-happy listeners is the International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA) in Orlando, FL, September 20-22nd, where Allen Berger, Joe C. and other luminaries will be speaking. More info at the following link: https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa2024
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When We Need Outside Help]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Howard Malitz returns to the pod to read and discuss another AA Grapevine article, which deals with the role of therapy, medication, and other mental health “outside help” that can unfortunately run into judgment and skepticism in certain rooms of recovery. A non-punitive attitude of openness, compassion, and encouragement towards “whatever works” keeps more people in the boat as we build the communities that sustain us.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read a pdf of the AA Grapevine article we discussed in the episode, “When We Need Outside Help”: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D4-4km2J83TjCle-QmmVD3147hrL9KP0/view?usp=drive_link">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f-3EYLLZuB06G4IYhGdZlmTazew5yUt1/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Howard Malitz returns to the pod to read and discuss another AA Grapevine article, which deals with the role of therapy, medication, and other mental health “outside help” that can unfortunately run into judgment and skepticism in certain rooms of recovery. A non-punitive attitude of openness, compassion, and encouragement towards “whatever works” keeps more people in the boat as we build the communities that sustain us.
 
Read a pdf of the AA Grapevine article we discussed in the episode, “When We Need Outside Help”: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f-3EYLLZuB06G4IYhGdZlmTazew5yUt1/view?usp=sharing
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Howard Malitz returns to the pod to read and discuss another AA Grapevine article, which deals with the role of therapy, medication, and other mental health “outside help” that can unfortunately run into judgment and skepticism in certain rooms of recovery. A non-punitive attitude of openness, compassion, and encouragement towards “whatever works” keeps more people in the boat as we build the communities that sustain us.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read a pdf of the AA Grapevine article we discussed in the episode, “When We Need Outside Help”: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D4-4km2J83TjCle-QmmVD3147hrL9KP0/view?usp=drive_link">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f-3EYLLZuB06G4IYhGdZlmTazew5yUt1/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Howard Malitz returns to the pod to read and discuss another AA Grapevine article, which deals with the role of therapy, medication, and other mental health “outside help” that can unfortunately run into judgment and skepticism in certain rooms of recovery. A non-punitive attitude of openness, compassion, and encouragement towards “whatever works” keeps more people in the boat as we build the communities that sustain us.
 
Read a pdf of the AA Grapevine article we discussed in the episode, “When We Need Outside Help”: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f-3EYLLZuB06G4IYhGdZlmTazew5yUt1/view?usp=sharing
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Accepting the Road Ahead with Dr. Shawn Horn]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 03:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Author, psychologist and TEDx speaker Dr. Shawn Horn rejoins us to discuss her upcoming project about adults with ADHD, with particular focus on our nervous system’s role in our emotional experience. From there we read another article from the AA Grapevine, and speak further to how emotional sobriety can help us stay connected to each other and ourselves as we move through grief.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read a pdf of the AA Grapevine article we discussed in the episode, “Accepting the Road Ahead”: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D4-4km2J83TjCle-QmmVD3147hrL9KP0/view?usp=drive_link">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D4-4km2J83TjCle-QmmVD3147hrL9KP0/view?usp=drive_link</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Links to learn more about the phenomenal <strong>Dr. Shawn Horn</strong>:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Sign up for her newsletter to receive updates and resources. </p>
<p class="p1">Webinars are launching; don’t miss them! </p>
<p class="p1">Website: <a href="https://www.drshawnhorn.com/"><span class="s2">https://www.drshawnhorn.com</span></a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Listen to the Inspired Living Podcast: </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s2"><a href="https://feeds.simplecast.com/cuykCUfC">https://feeds.simplecast.com/cuykCUfC</a></span> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow her on Social Media Here: </p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn"><span class="s2">www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn</span></a> </p>
<p class="p1">Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn"><span class="s2">www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn</span></a> </p>
<p class="p1">Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/drshawnhorn"><span class="s2">www.twitter.com/drshawnhorn</span></a> </p>
<p class="p1">Triller: @drshawnhorn </p>
<p class="p1">Pinterest: @drshawnhorn </p>
<p class="p1">LinkedIn: @drshawnhorn</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Buy Christian Journal for Women with Anxiety: Prompts to Soothe Anxious Thoughts and Find Strength in Your Faith</p>
<p class="p1">Book Here:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s2"><a href="https://a.co/d/dqJLbAr">https://a.co/d/dqJLbAr</a></span></p>
<p> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Author, psychologist and TEDx speaker Dr. Shawn Horn rejoins us to discuss her upcoming project about adults with ADHD, with particular focus on our nervous system’s role in our emotional experience. From there we read another article from the AA Grapevine, and speak further to how emotional sobriety can help us stay connected to each other and ourselves as we move through grief.
 
Read a pdf of the AA Grapevine article we discussed in the episode, “Accepting the Road Ahead”: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D4-4km2J83TjCle-QmmVD3147hrL9KP0/view?usp=drive_link
 
Links to learn more about the phenomenal Dr. Shawn Horn:
 
Sign up for her newsletter to receive updates and resources. 
Webinars are launching; don’t miss them! 
Website: https://www.drshawnhorn.com 
 
Listen to the Inspired Living Podcast: 
https://feeds.simplecast.com/cuykCUfC 
 
Follow her on Social Media Here: 
Instagram: www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn 
Facebook: www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn 
Twitter: www.twitter.com/drshawnhorn 
Triller: @drshawnhorn 
Pinterest: @drshawnhorn 
LinkedIn: @drshawnhorn
 
Buy Christian Journal for Women with Anxiety: Prompts to Soothe Anxious Thoughts and Find Strength in Your Faith
Book Here:
https://a.co/d/dqJLbAr
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Author, psychologist and TEDx speaker Dr. Shawn Horn rejoins us to discuss her upcoming project about adults with ADHD, with particular focus on our nervous system’s role in our emotional experience. From there we read another article from the AA Grapevine, and speak further to how emotional sobriety can help us stay connected to each other and ourselves as we move through grief.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read a pdf of the AA Grapevine article we discussed in the episode, “Accepting the Road Ahead”: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D4-4km2J83TjCle-QmmVD3147hrL9KP0/view?usp=drive_link">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D4-4km2J83TjCle-QmmVD3147hrL9KP0/view?usp=drive_link</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Links to learn more about the phenomenal <strong>Dr. Shawn Horn</strong>:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Sign up for her newsletter to receive updates and resources. </p>
<p class="p1">Webinars are launching; don’t miss them! </p>
<p class="p1">Website: <a href="https://www.drshawnhorn.com/"><span class="s2">https://www.drshawnhorn.com</span></a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Listen to the Inspired Living Podcast: </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s2"><a href="https://feeds.simplecast.com/cuykCUfC">https://feeds.simplecast.com/cuykCUfC</a></span> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow her on Social Media Here: </p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn"><span class="s2">www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn</span></a> </p>
<p class="p1">Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn"><span class="s2">www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn</span></a> </p>
<p class="p1">Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/drshawnhorn"><span class="s2">www.twitter.com/drshawnhorn</span></a> </p>
<p class="p1">Triller: @drshawnhorn </p>
<p class="p1">Pinterest: @drshawnhorn </p>
<p class="p1">LinkedIn: @drshawnhorn</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Buy Christian Journal for Women with Anxiety: Prompts to Soothe Anxious Thoughts and Find Strength in Your Faith</p>
<p class="p1">Book Here:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s2"><a href="https://a.co/d/dqJLbAr">https://a.co/d/dqJLbAr</a></span></p>
<p> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Author, psychologist and TEDx speaker Dr. Shawn Horn rejoins us to discuss her upcoming project about adults with ADHD, with particular focus on our nervous system’s role in our emotional experience. From there we read another article from the AA Grapevine, and speak further to how emotional sobriety can help us stay connected to each other and ourselves as we move through grief.
 
Read a pdf of the AA Grapevine article we discussed in the episode, “Accepting the Road Ahead”: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D4-4km2J83TjCle-QmmVD3147hrL9KP0/view?usp=drive_link
 
Links to learn more about the phenomenal Dr. Shawn Horn:
 
Sign up for her newsletter to receive updates and resources. 
Webinars are launching; don’t miss them! 
Website: https://www.drshawnhorn.com 
 
Listen to the Inspired Living Podcast: 
https://feeds.simplecast.com/cuykCUfC 
 
Follow her on Social Media Here: 
Instagram: www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn 
Facebook: www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn 
Twitter: www.twitter.com/drshawnhorn 
Triller: @drshawnhorn 
Pinterest: @drshawnhorn 
LinkedIn: @drshawnhorn
 
Buy Christian Journal for Women with Anxiety: Prompts to Soothe Anxious Thoughts and Find Strength in Your Faith
Book Here:
https://a.co/d/dqJLbAr
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Stay Connected & Add More Self]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 04 Aug 2024 22:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. rejoins Allen and Thom this week, to discuss looking beyond what a person is saying to focus on what they’re experiencing. Modeling emotional sobriety tools in ever-growing circles (beyond our meetings and loved ones) into a world in need of good examples. Practicing emotional sobriety in environments where there's none, or very little.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">“Listen now. When people talk listen completely. Don't be thinking what you're going to say.</p>
<p class="p1">Most people never listen. Nor do they observe.</p>
<p class="p1">You should be able to go into a room and when you come out know everything that you saw there and not only that. If that room gave you any feeling you should know exactly what it was that gave you that feeling. Try that for practice.</p>
<p class="p1">When you're in town stand outside the theatre and see how the people differ in the way they get out of taxis or motor cars. There are a thousands ways to practice. And always think of other people.”</p>
<p class="p1">-Ernest Hemingway</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. rejoins Allen and Thom this week, to discuss looking beyond what a person is saying to focus on what they’re experiencing. Modeling emotional sobriety tools in ever-growing circles (beyond our meetings and loved ones) into a world in need of good examples. Practicing emotional sobriety in environments where there's none, or very little.
 
“Listen now. When people talk listen completely. Don't be thinking what you're going to say.
Most people never listen. Nor do they observe.
You should be able to go into a room and when you come out know everything that you saw there and not only that. If that room gave you any feeling you should know exactly what it was that gave you that feeling. Try that for practice.
When you're in town stand outside the theatre and see how the people differ in the way they get out of taxis or motor cars. There are a thousands ways to practice. And always think of other people.”
-Ernest Hemingway
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Stay Connected & Add More Self]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>153</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. rejoins Allen and Thom this week, to discuss looking beyond what a person is saying to focus on what they’re experiencing. Modeling emotional sobriety tools in ever-growing circles (beyond our meetings and loved ones) into a world in need of good examples. Practicing emotional sobriety in environments where there's none, or very little.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">“Listen now. When people talk listen completely. Don't be thinking what you're going to say.</p>
<p class="p1">Most people never listen. Nor do they observe.</p>
<p class="p1">You should be able to go into a room and when you come out know everything that you saw there and not only that. If that room gave you any feeling you should know exactly what it was that gave you that feeling. Try that for practice.</p>
<p class="p1">When you're in town stand outside the theatre and see how the people differ in the way they get out of taxis or motor cars. There are a thousands ways to practice. And always think of other people.”</p>
<p class="p1">-Ernest Hemingway</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. rejoins Allen and Thom this week, to discuss looking beyond what a person is saying to focus on what they’re experiencing. Modeling emotional sobriety tools in ever-growing circles (beyond our meetings and loved ones) into a world in need of good examples. Practicing emotional sobriety in environments where there's none, or very little.
 
“Listen now. When people talk listen completely. Don't be thinking what you're going to say.
Most people never listen. Nor do they observe.
You should be able to go into a room and when you come out know everything that you saw there and not only that. If that room gave you any feeling you should know exactly what it was that gave you that feeling. Try that for practice.
When you're in town stand outside the theatre and see how the people differ in the way they get out of taxis or motor cars. There are a thousands ways to practice. And always think of other people.”
-Ernest Hemingway
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:17</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Balancing on the Relational Beam]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the challenge and opportunity in conducting their relationships in a manner appropriate to those relationships. We circle back to politics, where despite our differences we try to not lose our human connection and empathy for our fellows.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read Thom’s “Therapy 4 Politics”: <a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/therapy4politics">https://www.thomrutledge.com/therapy4politics</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the challenge and opportunity in conducting their relationships in a manner appropriate to those relationships. We circle back to politics, where despite our differences we try to not lose our human connection and empathy for our fellows.
 
Read Thom’s “Therapy 4 Politics”: https://www.thomrutledge.com/therapy4politics
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Balancing on the Relational Beam]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>152</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the challenge and opportunity in conducting their relationships in a manner appropriate to those relationships. We circle back to politics, where despite our differences we try to not lose our human connection and empathy for our fellows.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read Thom’s “Therapy 4 Politics”: <a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/therapy4politics">https://www.thomrutledge.com/therapy4politics</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick discuss the challenge and opportunity in conducting their relationships in a manner appropriate to those relationships. We circle back to politics, where despite our differences we try to not lose our human connection and empathy for our fellows.
 
Read Thom’s “Therapy 4 Politics”: https://www.thomrutledge.com/therapy4politics
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:33:04</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Beating the Questionnaire]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jul 2024 22:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick bring their AA Grapevine series to a close and talk "doomscrolling," rehab, and first steps.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “The Zinger,” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b-uDb9bGY2omGXgfw4ztLq3-b2QFDKi2/view?usp=sharing</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick bring their AA Grapevine series to a close and talk "doomscrolling," rehab, and first steps.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “The Zinger,” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b-uDb9bGY2omGXgfw4ztLq3-b2QFDKi2/view?usp=sharing
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Beating the Questionnaire]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>151</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick bring their AA Grapevine series to a close and talk "doomscrolling," rehab, and first steps.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “The Zinger,” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b-uDb9bGY2omGXgfw4ztLq3-b2QFDKi2/view?usp=sharing</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick bring their AA Grapevine series to a close and talk "doomscrolling," rehab, and first steps.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “The Zinger,” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b-uDb9bGY2omGXgfw4ztLq3-b2QFDKi2/view?usp=sharing
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:34</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Hurtling Towards Serenity]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2024 23:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. and Thom join Patrick before Allen pops in to discuss our second to last AA Grapevine reading series on Emotional Sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s Emotional Sobriety Grapevine Article, “Batter Up,” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qX48R8UzkFYuL9gHS4OgQNtQ4KL3KQeD/view?usp=sharing</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. and Thom join Patrick before Allen pops in to discuss our second to last AA Grapevine reading series on Emotional Sobriety.
 
This week’s Emotional Sobriety Grapevine Article, “Batter Up,” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qX48R8UzkFYuL9gHS4OgQNtQ4KL3KQeD/view?usp=sharing
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Hurtling Towards Serenity]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>150</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. and Thom join Patrick before Allen pops in to discuss our second to last AA Grapevine reading series on Emotional Sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s Emotional Sobriety Grapevine Article, “Batter Up,” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qX48R8UzkFYuL9gHS4OgQNtQ4KL3KQeD/view?usp=sharing</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. and Thom join Patrick before Allen pops in to discuss our second to last AA Grapevine reading series on Emotional Sobriety.
 
This week’s Emotional Sobriety Grapevine Article, “Batter Up,” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qX48R8UzkFYuL9gHS4OgQNtQ4KL3KQeD/view?usp=sharing
 
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:34:45</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Life Goes On]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Carol Carter drops by to help us read the latest in Emotional Sobriety from the AA Grapevine - the first article in our series that has some objectionable beats, which Allen and Thom get into. Some emphasis this week on the loved ones we lose during our recovery, and how we can manage the grief that arises.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Life Goes On” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/107HghvemUOnUxBG0oQ0LRQK5lUvsk5OM/view?usp=drive_link</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between workshops.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Carol Carter drops by to help us read the latest in Emotional Sobriety from the AA Grapevine - the first article in our series that has some objectionable beats, which Allen and Thom get into. Some emphasis this week on the loved ones we lose during our recovery, and how we can manage the grief that arises.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Life Goes On” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/107HghvemUOnUxBG0oQ0LRQK5lUvsk5OM/view?usp=drive_link
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between workshops.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Life Goes On]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Carol Carter drops by to help us read the latest in Emotional Sobriety from the AA Grapevine - the first article in our series that has some objectionable beats, which Allen and Thom get into. Some emphasis this week on the loved ones we lose during our recovery, and how we can manage the grief that arises.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Life Goes On” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/107HghvemUOnUxBG0oQ0LRQK5lUvsk5OM/view?usp=drive_link</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between workshops.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Carol Carter drops by to help us read the latest in Emotional Sobriety from the AA Grapevine - the first article in our series that has some objectionable beats, which Allen and Thom get into. Some emphasis this week on the loved ones we lose during our recovery, and how we can manage the grief that arises.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Life Goes On” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/107HghvemUOnUxBG0oQ0LRQK5lUvsk5OM/view?usp=drive_link
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between workshops.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:27:39</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Get Quiet, and Listen]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2024 19:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Earnie Larsen once said, “Your program cannot take you further than your definition of recovery.” Take a moment and answer the following question: What is your definition of recovery?</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Happy Father's Day from Allen, Thom, and Patrick to all who celebrate.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Tink, Tink, Tink,” can be accessed herehttps://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tink-tink-tink</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Earnie Larsen once said, “Your program cannot take you further than your definition of recovery.” Take a moment and answer the following question: What is your definition of recovery?
 
Happy Father's Day from Allen, Thom, and Patrick to all who celebrate.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Tink, Tink, Tink,” can be accessed herehttps://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tink-tink-tink
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 
 
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                    <![CDATA[Get Quiet, and Listen]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Earnie Larsen once said, “Your program cannot take you further than your definition of recovery.” Take a moment and answer the following question: What is your definition of recovery?</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Happy Father's Day from Allen, Thom, and Patrick to all who celebrate.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Tink, Tink, Tink,” can be accessed herehttps://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tink-tink-tink</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Earnie Larsen once said, “Your program cannot take you further than your definition of recovery.” Take a moment and answer the following question: What is your definition of recovery?
 
Happy Father's Day from Allen, Thom, and Patrick to all who celebrate.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Tink, Tink, Tink,” can be accessed herehttps://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tink-tink-tink
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 
 
 ]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Connection/Hope/Identity/Meaning/Empowement]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 21:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. brings the CHIME recovery model from a recent workshop into our eternally unfolding discussion of what it means to be emotionally sober. Even when we’re falling off the beam, there’s lessons in the struggle to stay balanced. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Joe C. brings the CHIME recovery model from a recent workshop into our eternally unfolding discussion of what it means to be emotionally sober. Even when we’re falling off the beam, there’s lessons in the struggle to stay balanced. 
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Connection/Hope/Identity/Meaning/Empowement]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>147</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. brings the CHIME recovery model from a recent workshop into our eternally unfolding discussion of what it means to be emotionally sober. Even when we’re falling off the beam, there’s lessons in the struggle to stay balanced. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. brings the CHIME recovery model from a recent workshop into our eternally unfolding discussion of what it means to be emotionally sober. Even when we’re falling off the beam, there’s lessons in the struggle to stay balanced. 
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Never Judge Your Earlier Self by What You Know Today]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2024 01:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Patrick discuss the latest emotional sobriety-centric AA Grapevine article and talk work, God, and acceptance. Next week, Joe C. returns to the pod.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Fishing Heaven” can be accessed here via .pdf: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1otV6dF4dRNV-36_fCrzh95ZSHMOrLcLf/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1otV6dF4dRNV-36_fCrzh95ZSHMOrLcLf/view?usp=sharing</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Patrick discuss the latest emotional sobriety-centric AA Grapevine article and talk work, God, and acceptance. Next week, Joe C. returns to the pod.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Fishing Heaven” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1otV6dF4dRNV-36_fCrzh95ZSHMOrLcLf/view?usp=sharing 
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Never Judge Your Earlier Self by What You Know Today]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Patrick discuss the latest emotional sobriety-centric AA Grapevine article and talk work, God, and acceptance. Next week, Joe C. returns to the pod.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Fishing Heaven” can be accessed here via .pdf: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1otV6dF4dRNV-36_fCrzh95ZSHMOrLcLf/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1otV6dF4dRNV-36_fCrzh95ZSHMOrLcLf/view?usp=sharing</a> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Patrick discuss the latest emotional sobriety-centric AA Grapevine article and talk work, God, and acceptance. Next week, Joe C. returns to the pod.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Fishing Heaven” can be accessed here via .pdf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1otV6dF4dRNV-36_fCrzh95ZSHMOrLcLf/view?usp=sharing 
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Spiritual GPS]]>
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                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick delve into the latest Emotional Sobriety-centric AA Grapevine article. We discuss rock bottoms, taking action, and the role of prayer in disentangling ourselves from misery to embrace a burgeoning consciousness of emotional freedom.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Enter my Lonely Heart” can be accessed on the website here: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/enter-my-lonely-heart">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/enter-my-lonely-heart</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">I will update the show notes with a .pdf version as soon as possible.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick delve into the latest Emotional Sobriety-centric AA Grapevine article. We discuss rock bottoms, taking action, and the role of prayer in disentangling ourselves from misery to embrace a burgeoning consciousness of emotional freedom.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Enter my Lonely Heart” can be accessed on the website here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/enter-my-lonely-heart
 
I will update the show notes with a .pdf version as soon as possible.
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Spiritual GPS]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick delve into the latest Emotional Sobriety-centric AA Grapevine article. We discuss rock bottoms, taking action, and the role of prayer in disentangling ourselves from misery to embrace a burgeoning consciousness of emotional freedom.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Enter my Lonely Heart” can be accessed on the website here: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/enter-my-lonely-heart">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/enter-my-lonely-heart</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">I will update the show notes with a .pdf version as soon as possible.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick delve into the latest Emotional Sobriety-centric AA Grapevine article. We discuss rock bottoms, taking action, and the role of prayer in disentangling ourselves from misery to embrace a burgeoning consciousness of emotional freedom.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Enter my Lonely Heart” can be accessed on the website here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/enter-my-lonely-heart
 
I will update the show notes with a .pdf version as soon as possible.
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Patrick record face-to-face during some downtime from the three-day <em>Recovery Reimagined</em> event in London to discuss bringing Emotional Sobriety to different parts of the world, before delving into the next Grapevine article on Emotional Sobriety. Next, Patrick touches base with event organizer Patrick McAteer to review speakers, concepts and gratitudes from the event (spoiler: it was a whopping success and something he’ll be seeking to replicate in the near future!)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">For more info on Ingrid Clayton, Dr. Judy Grisel, Samantha Duggan and other speakers at Friendly Circle Berlin’s <em>Recovery Reimagined</em>: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/london2024">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/london2024</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Any Way You Slice It” can be accessed via pdf here: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nEfhc8IjA3bhaZwJjOf7SHII31jVLWKb/view?usp=drive_link">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nEfhc8IjA3bhaZwJjOf7SHII31jVLWKb/view?usp=drive_link</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Patrick record face-to-face during some downtime from the three-day Recovery Reimagined event in London to discuss bringing Emotional Sobriety to different parts of the world, before delving into the next Grapevine article on Emotional Sobriety. Next, Patrick touches base with event organizer Patrick McAteer to review speakers, concepts and gratitudes from the event (spoiler: it was a whopping success and something he’ll be seeking to replicate in the near future!)
 
For more info on Ingrid Clayton, Dr. Judy Grisel, Samantha Duggan and other speakers at Friendly Circle Berlin’s Recovery Reimagined: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/london2024
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Any Way You Slice It” can be accessed via pdf here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nEfhc8IjA3bhaZwJjOf7SHII31jVLWKb/view?usp=drive_link
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Patrick record face-to-face during some downtime from the three-day <em>Recovery Reimagined</em> event in London to discuss bringing Emotional Sobriety to different parts of the world, before delving into the next Grapevine article on Emotional Sobriety. Next, Patrick touches base with event organizer Patrick McAteer to review speakers, concepts and gratitudes from the event (spoiler: it was a whopping success and something he’ll be seeking to replicate in the near future!)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">For more info on Ingrid Clayton, Dr. Judy Grisel, Samantha Duggan and other speakers at Friendly Circle Berlin’s <em>Recovery Reimagined</em>: <a href="https://friendlycircleberlin.org/london2024">https://friendlycircleberlin.org/london2024</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Any Way You Slice It” can be accessed via pdf here: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nEfhc8IjA3bhaZwJjOf7SHII31jVLWKb/view?usp=drive_link">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nEfhc8IjA3bhaZwJjOf7SHII31jVLWKb/view?usp=drive_link</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Patrick record face-to-face during some downtime from the three-day Recovery Reimagined event in London to discuss bringing Emotional Sobriety to different parts of the world, before delving into the next Grapevine article on Emotional Sobriety. Next, Patrick touches base with event organizer Patrick McAteer to review speakers, concepts and gratitudes from the event (spoiler: it was a whopping success and something he’ll be seeking to replicate in the near future!)
 
For more info on Ingrid Clayton, Dr. Judy Grisel, Samantha Duggan and other speakers at Friendly Circle Berlin’s Recovery Reimagined: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/london2024
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Any Way You Slice It” can be accessed via pdf here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nEfhc8IjA3bhaZwJjOf7SHII31jVLWKb/view?usp=drive_link
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Make Plans, Don’t Plan the Results!]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick revisit the principle of staying sober for one more day, even when it would make more sense to get loaded. We also spend some time on what it means to “future trip," and how we can stay present while also heading off trouble down the road.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Once a Zombie”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/so-worth-it">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/once-zombie</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick revisit the principle of staying sober for one more day, even when it would make more sense to get loaded. We also spend some time on what it means to “future trip," and how we can stay present while also heading off trouble down the road.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Once a Zombie”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/once-zombie
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick revisit the principle of staying sober for one more day, even when it would make more sense to get loaded. We also spend some time on what it means to “future trip," and how we can stay present while also heading off trouble down the road.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Once a Zombie”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/so-worth-it">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/once-zombie</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick revisit the principle of staying sober for one more day, even when it would make more sense to get loaded. We also spend some time on what it means to “future trip," and how we can stay present while also heading off trouble down the road.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Once a Zombie”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/once-zombie
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[So Worth It]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2024 22:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick read another emotional sobriety anecdote from the AA Grapevine and discuss early sobriety, sponsors, and attempting to live better lives.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “So Worth It”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/so-worth-it">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/so-worth-it</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick read another emotional sobriety anecdote from the AA Grapevine and discuss early sobriety, sponsors, and attempting to live better lives.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “So Worth It”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/so-worth-it
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick read another emotional sobriety anecdote from the AA Grapevine and discuss early sobriety, sponsors, and attempting to live better lives.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “So Worth It”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/so-worth-it">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/so-worth-it</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick read another emotional sobriety anecdote from the AA Grapevine and discuss early sobriety, sponsors, and attempting to live better lives.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “So Worth It”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/so-worth-it
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:25:32</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Courage to Change]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 22:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Patrick discuss a friend whose wife and baby are in the hospital this weekend in dire straits, as well as Patrick’s recent elective surgery and Tom’s ephemeral challenge of procrastination. In each case we practice serenity - not only accepting that which we don’t control, but stepping up to the plate and taking any and all positive actions available to us.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Patrick discuss a friend whose wife and baby are in the hospital this weekend in dire straits, as well as Patrick’s recent elective surgery and Tom’s ephemeral challenge of procrastination. In each case we practice serenity - not only accepting that which we don’t control, but stepping up to the plate and taking any and all positive actions available to us.
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Courage to Change]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Patrick discuss a friend whose wife and baby are in the hospital this weekend in dire straits, as well as Patrick’s recent elective surgery and Tom’s ephemeral challenge of procrastination. In each case we practice serenity - not only accepting that which we don’t control, but stepping up to the plate and taking any and all positive actions available to us.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Patrick discuss a friend whose wife and baby are in the hospital this weekend in dire straits, as well as Patrick’s recent elective surgery and Tom’s ephemeral challenge of procrastination. In each case we practice serenity - not only accepting that which we don’t control, but stepping up to the plate and taking any and all positive actions available to us.
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dream Come True]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2024 01:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen mines some lessons from a death in the family and Thom reflects on an inspiring recent phase of good health as we land on our latest Grapevine article, which has to do with finding recovery and fellowship in meetings around the world. Remaining flexible, finding Solution within shifting conditions is at the heart of emotional sobriety. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Dream Come True”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/dream-come-true</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen mines some lessons from a death in the family and Thom reflects on an inspiring recent phase of good health as we land on our latest Grapevine article, which has to do with finding recovery and fellowship in meetings around the world. Remaining flexible, finding Solution within shifting conditions is at the heart of emotional sobriety. 
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Dream Come True”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/dream-come-true
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen mines some lessons from a death in the family and Thom reflects on an inspiring recent phase of good health as we land on our latest Grapevine article, which has to do with finding recovery and fellowship in meetings around the world. Remaining flexible, finding Solution within shifting conditions is at the heart of emotional sobriety. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Dream Come True”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/dream-come-true</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen mines some lessons from a death in the family and Thom reflects on an inspiring recent phase of good health as we land on our latest Grapevine article, which has to do with finding recovery and fellowship in meetings around the world. Remaining flexible, finding Solution within shifting conditions is at the heart of emotional sobriety. 
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Dream Come True”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/dream-come-true
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:31:40</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Party Guy]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2024 01:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">The Grapevine story Carol, Allen, Thom, and Patrick get into this week has to do with a longtime AA member fielding some annoying criticism from a Fellow and being brought into deeper contact with recovery and all the reasons to “keep coming back.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Party Guy”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/party-guy</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Grapevine story Carol, Allen, Thom, and Patrick get into this week has to do with a longtime AA member fielding some annoying criticism from a Fellow and being brought into deeper contact with recovery and all the reasons to “keep coming back.”
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Party Guy”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/party-guy
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Party Guy]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>139</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">The Grapevine story Carol, Allen, Thom, and Patrick get into this week has to do with a longtime AA member fielding some annoying criticism from a Fellow and being brought into deeper contact with recovery and all the reasons to “keep coming back.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Party Guy”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/party-guy</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Grapevine story Carol, Allen, Thom, and Patrick get into this week has to do with a longtime AA member fielding some annoying criticism from a Fellow and being brought into deeper contact with recovery and all the reasons to “keep coming back.”
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Party Guy”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/party-guy
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:49:31</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Getting the Help]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 02:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Carol Carter joins the pod again (and will be returning next week!) to discuss depth and stages of recovery, culling from a recent Emotional Sobriety-focused Grapevine article.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Getting the Help”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Carol Carter joins the pod again (and will be returning next week!) to discuss depth and stages of recovery, culling from a recent Emotional Sobriety-focused Grapevine article.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Getting the Help”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Getting the Help]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>138</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Carol Carter joins the pod again (and will be returning next week!) to discuss depth and stages of recovery, culling from a recent Emotional Sobriety-focused Grapevine article.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Getting the Help”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Carol Carter joins the pod again (and will be returning next week!) to discuss depth and stages of recovery, culling from a recent Emotional Sobriety-focused Grapevine article.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Getting the Help”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/getting-help
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:40:10</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Unity = Love]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 01:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">This week we discuss the “peaceful leveling” that occurs in fellowship, how with greater emotional sobriety our alienating differences can melt away. When we align with reality, staying "right-sized," we don’t over inflate our own importance, nor do we minimize the importance of others. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Unity = Love”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/unitylove">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/unitylove</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This week we discuss the “peaceful leveling” that occurs in fellowship, how with greater emotional sobriety our alienating differences can melt away. When we align with reality, staying "right-sized," we don’t over inflate our own importance, nor do we minimize the importance of others. 
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Unity = Love”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/unitylove
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Unity = Love]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">This week we discuss the “peaceful leveling” that occurs in fellowship, how with greater emotional sobriety our alienating differences can melt away. When we align with reality, staying "right-sized," we don’t over inflate our own importance, nor do we minimize the importance of others. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Unity = Love”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/unitylove">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/unitylove</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This week we discuss the “peaceful leveling” that occurs in fellowship, how with greater emotional sobriety our alienating differences can melt away. When we align with reality, staying "right-sized," we don’t over inflate our own importance, nor do we minimize the importance of others. 
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “Unity = Love”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/unitylove
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:25:20</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA["The Experiment" with Sara Stromberg]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2024 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick welcome Sara Stromberg, a many years recovering student of Gestalt therapy who discusses her sobriety and sponsorship of women over the years in light of today’s reading - a portrait of “controlled drinking.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “The Experiment”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/experiment">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/experiment</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick welcome Sara Stromberg, a many years recovering student of Gestalt therapy who discusses her sobriety and sponsorship of women over the years in light of today’s reading - a portrait of “controlled drinking.”
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “The Experiment”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/experiment
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick welcome Sara Stromberg, a many years recovering student of Gestalt therapy who discusses her sobriety and sponsorship of women over the years in light of today’s reading - a portrait of “controlled drinking.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “The Experiment”: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/experiment">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/experiment</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick welcome Sara Stromberg, a many years recovering student of Gestalt therapy who discusses her sobriety and sponsorship of women over the years in light of today’s reading - a portrait of “controlled drinking.”
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article, “The Experiment”: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/experiment
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Passing It On]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2024 19:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick reflect on small simple actions, our claiming of experiences rather than allowing them to claim us, which allow us to better cope with reality.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/passing-it</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick reflect on small simple actions, our claiming of experiences rather than allowing them to claim us, which allow us to better cope with reality.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/passing-it
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Passing It On]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick reflect on small simple actions, our claiming of experiences rather than allowing them to claim us, which allow us to better cope with reality.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/passing-it</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick reflect on small simple actions, our claiming of experiences rather than allowing them to claim us, which allow us to better cope with reality.
 
This week’s “Emotional Sobriety” Grapevine Article: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/passing-it
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Está Bien]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 05:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Howard Malitz returns to the pod to chat with Patrick and Thom about the deeper levels of recovery he discovered in the course of trying to find peace at work and in marriage. Allen joins the episode in the closing stretch to give us an update on his arduous physical recovery from a recent surgery. Throughout, we touch on how Emotional Sobriety offers us connection more than any other singular quality, to the people we care about and the conflicts pressing us. Walking this path as a daily practice, we can cultivate our best qualities.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Howard Malitz returns to the pod to chat with Patrick and Thom about the deeper levels of recovery he discovered in the course of trying to find peace at work and in marriage. Allen joins the episode in the closing stretch to give us an update on his arduous physical recovery from a recent surgery. Throughout, we touch on how Emotional Sobriety offers us connection more than any other singular quality, to the people we care about and the conflicts pressing us. Walking this path as a daily practice, we can cultivate our best qualities.]]>
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                    <![CDATA["Fear of Economic Insecurity Will Leave Us"]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 21:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. and surprise drop-in guest Howard Malitz discuss the next Grapevine Emotional Sobriety article and go into an intimate discussion of the financial pressures we encounter in recovery.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read the Grapevine story “Doing Just Fine” here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/doing-just-fine</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Joe C. and surprise drop-in guest Howard Malitz discuss the next Grapevine Emotional Sobriety article and go into an intimate discussion of the financial pressures we encounter in recovery.
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Read the Grapevine story “Doing Just Fine” here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/doing-just-fine
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA["Fear of Economic Insecurity Will Leave Us"]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. and surprise drop-in guest Howard Malitz discuss the next Grapevine Emotional Sobriety article and go into an intimate discussion of the financial pressures we encounter in recovery.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Howard Malitz’ <em>Seasons of Sobriety</em> podcast: <a href="https://pod.link/1460539626">https://pod.link/1460539626</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read the Grapevine story “Doing Just Fine” here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/doing-just-fine</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Upcoming events with Allen Berger: <a href="https://abphd.com/events/">https://abphd.com/events/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. and surprise drop-in guest Howard Malitz discuss the next Grapevine Emotional Sobriety article and go into an intimate discussion of the financial pressures we encounter in recovery.
 
Check out Howard Malitz’ Seasons of Sobriety podcast: https://pod.link/1460539626
 
Read the Grapevine story “Doing Just Fine” here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/doing-just-fine
 
Upcoming events with Allen Berger: https://abphd.com/events/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:37:02</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Little Surrenders]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2024 03:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. returns to take a plunge with us into our next Grapevine story about opportunities for emotional sobriety showing up in countless small ways in our daily lives.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read the Grapevine story here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/little-surrenders</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. returns to take a plunge with us into our next Grapevine story about opportunities for emotional sobriety showing up in countless small ways in our daily lives.
 
Read the Grapevine story here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/little-surrenders
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Little Surrenders]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Joe C. returns to take a plunge with us into our next Grapevine story about opportunities for emotional sobriety showing up in countless small ways in our daily lives.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read the Grapevine story here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/little-surrenders</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe C. returns to take a plunge with us into our next Grapevine story about opportunities for emotional sobriety showing up in countless small ways in our daily lives.
 
Read the Grapevine story here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/little-surrenders
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:31:11</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It All Adds Up]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 07:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, Herb K., and Patrick delve further into the AA Grapevine detailing inspirational stories of recovery and emotional sobriety. One particular story about grief and tolerance hits close to home for each host in distinct ways.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read the Grapevine story here: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/it-all-adds">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/it-all-adds</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, Herb K., and Patrick delve further into the AA Grapevine detailing inspirational stories of recovery and emotional sobriety. One particular story about grief and tolerance hits close to home for each host in distinct ways.
 
Read the Grapevine story here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/it-all-adds
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It All Adds Up]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, Herb K., and Patrick delve further into the AA Grapevine detailing inspirational stories of recovery and emotional sobriety. One particular story about grief and tolerance hits close to home for each host in distinct ways.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read the Grapevine story here: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/it-all-adds">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/it-all-adds</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, Herb K., and Patrick delve further into the AA Grapevine detailing inspirational stories of recovery and emotional sobriety. One particular story about grief and tolerance hits close to home for each host in distinct ways.
 
Read the Grapevine story here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/it-all-adds
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:38:07</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Tending Our Gardens]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2024 06:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">For the first of several upcoming episodes with rotating guests unpacking an Emotional Sobriety-themed AA Grapevine issue, Thom and Allen discuss a story about one recovering woman’s garden being ravaged. From an initial impulse to take an unfortunate occurrence personally and impose an unreasonable expectation on her environment, this writer remembers her gratitude and claims an experience rather than being claimed by it.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read "Tending my Garden" here: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tending-my-garden">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tending-my-garden</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For the first of several upcoming episodes with rotating guests unpacking an Emotional Sobriety-themed AA Grapevine issue, Thom and Allen discuss a story about one recovering woman’s garden being ravaged. From an initial impulse to take an unfortunate occurrence personally and impose an unreasonable expectation on her environment, this writer remembers her gratitude and claims an experience rather than being claimed by it.
 
Read "Tending my Garden" here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tending-my-garden
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">For the first of several upcoming episodes with rotating guests unpacking an Emotional Sobriety-themed AA Grapevine issue, Thom and Allen discuss a story about one recovering woman’s garden being ravaged. From an initial impulse to take an unfortunate occurrence personally and impose an unreasonable expectation on her environment, this writer remembers her gratitude and claims an experience rather than being claimed by it.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read "Tending my Garden" here: <a href="https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tending-my-garden">https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tending-my-garden</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For the first of several upcoming episodes with rotating guests unpacking an Emotional Sobriety-themed AA Grapevine issue, Thom and Allen discuss a story about one recovering woman’s garden being ravaged. From an initial impulse to take an unfortunate occurrence personally and impose an unreasonable expectation on her environment, this writer remembers her gratitude and claims an experience rather than being claimed by it.
 
Read "Tending my Garden" here: https://www.aagrapevine.org/magazine/2024/jan/tending-my-garden
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:30:09</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Our Way of Life with Herb K.]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 04:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Longtime collaborator of Allen's Herb K. returns to the pod. In light of a recent enlargement of his spiritual life, Herb discusses Steps 10-12 of the 12 Steps, which move us from a program of recovery to a program of living.</p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Herb at his website: <a href="https://herbk.com/">https://herbk.com/</a></p>
<p class="p1">To register for Herb and Allen's upcoming London conference for Friendly Circle Berlin (Emotional Sobriety workshop), visit the following link. Those interested can log in virtually or attend in person.</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/friendly-circle-berlin-london-conference-2024-tickets-786440042337?aff=erelexpmlt">https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/friendly-circle-berlin-london-conference-2024-tickets-786440042337?aff=erelexpmlt</a> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Longtime collaborator of Allen's Herb K. returns to the pod. In light of a recent enlargement of his spiritual life, Herb discusses Steps 10-12 of the 12 Steps, which move us from a program of recovery to a program of living.
Learn more about Herb at his website: https://herbk.com/
To register for Herb and Allen's upcoming London conference for Friendly Circle Berlin (Emotional Sobriety workshop), visit the following link. Those interested can log in virtually or attend in person.
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/friendly-circle-berlin-london-conference-2024-tickets-786440042337?aff=erelexpmlt 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Longtime collaborator of Allen's Herb K. returns to the pod. In light of a recent enlargement of his spiritual life, Herb discusses Steps 10-12 of the 12 Steps, which move us from a program of recovery to a program of living.</p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Herb at his website: <a href="https://herbk.com/">https://herbk.com/</a></p>
<p class="p1">To register for Herb and Allen's upcoming London conference for Friendly Circle Berlin (Emotional Sobriety workshop), visit the following link. Those interested can log in virtually or attend in person.</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/friendly-circle-berlin-london-conference-2024-tickets-786440042337?aff=erelexpmlt">https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/friendly-circle-berlin-london-conference-2024-tickets-786440042337?aff=erelexpmlt</a> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Longtime collaborator of Allen's Herb K. returns to the pod. In light of a recent enlargement of his spiritual life, Herb discusses Steps 10-12 of the 12 Steps, which move us from a program of recovery to a program of living.
Learn more about Herb at his website: https://herbk.com/
To register for Herb and Allen's upcoming London conference for Friendly Circle Berlin (Emotional Sobriety workshop), visit the following link. Those interested can log in virtually or attend in person.
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/friendly-circle-berlin-london-conference-2024-tickets-786440042337?aff=erelexpmlt 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:12</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To Crush and Not Be Crushed]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Looking ahead to a year ripe with possibilities for bringing the best possible attitude to our trials and tribulations.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Next week we’ll be joined by Herb K. to discuss the next Essential Insight, and in the weeks beyond we’ll circle back to the latest episode of AA Grapevine, which highlights Emotional Sobriety.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Looking ahead to a year ripe with possibilities for bringing the best possible attitude to our trials and tribulations.
 
Next week we’ll be joined by Herb K. to discuss the next Essential Insight, and in the weeks beyond we’ll circle back to the latest episode of AA Grapevine, which highlights Emotional Sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[To Crush and Not Be Crushed]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>128</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Looking ahead to a year ripe with possibilities for bringing the best possible attitude to our trials and tribulations.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Next week we’ll be joined by Herb K. to discuss the next Essential Insight, and in the weeks beyond we’ll circle back to the latest episode of AA Grapevine, which highlights Emotional Sobriety.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Looking ahead to a year ripe with possibilities for bringing the best possible attitude to our trials and tribulations.
 
Next week we’ll be joined by Herb K. to discuss the next Essential Insight, and in the weeks beyond we’ll circle back to the latest episode of AA Grapevine, which highlights Emotional Sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:34:58</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Moving Beyond Our Challenging Year]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2023 19:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">As we head into another year of the podcast, Carol Carter, Thom, Allen, and Patrick reflect on a painful but also incredibly constructive 2023. Carol’s retirement brought her into fuller joy and embrace of self than she ever thought possible. Thom endured his wife’s surgery and a hellish cancer treatment. Allen has marched bravely through the ending of his marriage. Patrick has weathered a breakup and a serious injury. Through this and more, we continue trying to bring the best possible attitude to whatever life throws at us, recognizing that perfect isn’t possible.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Joe's latest <em>Rebellion Dogs</em> episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:</p>
<p class="p1">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[As we head into another year of the podcast, Carol Carter, Thom, Allen, and Patrick reflect on a painful but also incredibly constructive 2023. Carol’s retirement brought her into fuller joy and embrace of self than she ever thought possible. Thom endured his wife’s surgery and a hellish cancer treatment. Allen has marched bravely through the ending of his marriage. Patrick has weathered a breakup and a serious injury. Through this and more, we continue trying to bring the best possible attitude to whatever life throws at us, recognizing that perfect isn’t possible.
 
Check out Joe's latest Rebellion Dogs episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Moving Beyond Our Challenging Year]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>127</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">As we head into another year of the podcast, Carol Carter, Thom, Allen, and Patrick reflect on a painful but also incredibly constructive 2023. Carol’s retirement brought her into fuller joy and embrace of self than she ever thought possible. Thom endured his wife’s surgery and a hellish cancer treatment. Allen has marched bravely through the ending of his marriage. Patrick has weathered a breakup and a serious injury. Through this and more, we continue trying to bring the best possible attitude to whatever life throws at us, recognizing that perfect isn’t possible.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Joe's latest <em>Rebellion Dogs</em> episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:</p>
<p class="p1">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As we head into another year of the podcast, Carol Carter, Thom, Allen, and Patrick reflect on a painful but also incredibly constructive 2023. Carol’s retirement brought her into fuller joy and embrace of self than she ever thought possible. Thom endured his wife’s surgery and a hellish cancer treatment. Allen has marched bravely through the ending of his marriage. Patrick has weathered a breakup and a serious injury. Through this and more, we continue trying to bring the best possible attitude to whatever life throws at us, recognizing that perfect isn’t possible.
 
Check out Joe's latest Rebellion Dogs episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Happy Happy, Joy Joy]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2023 04:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Thom answer some of your Facebook questions and investigate how we can bring the best possible attitude towards a notoriously stressful time of year.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>In particular we look at the concept of Joy: we can’t experience life’s highs without also enduring its lows. Coming to the end of a year that had as much pain and setback as positive growth, this is vital to remember.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Joe C's latest <em>Rebellion Dogs</em> episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:</p>
<p class="p1">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Thom answer some of your Facebook questions and investigate how we can bring the best possible attitude towards a notoriously stressful time of year.  In particular we look at the concept of Joy: we can’t experience life’s highs without also enduring its lows. Coming to the end of a year that had as much pain and setback as positive growth, this is vital to remember.
 
Check out Joe C's latest Rebellion Dogs episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Thom answer some of your Facebook questions and investigate how we can bring the best possible attitude towards a notoriously stressful time of year.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>In particular we look at the concept of Joy: we can’t experience life’s highs without also enduring its lows. Coming to the end of a year that had as much pain and setback as positive growth, this is vital to remember.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Joe C's latest <em>Rebellion Dogs</em> episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:</p>
<p class="p1">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s1">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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Check out Joe C's latest Rebellion Dogs episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Dubious Importance of "Being Right"]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2023 05:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Thom, Joe, and Patrick (with a late episode appearance by Allen, fresh off his somatic therapy workshop) discuss how our individual conceptions of rightness and wrongness intersect with our recoveries. How can they enhance or detract from our relationships? And as always, how can we expand our emotional sobriety within these value markers?</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Check out Joe's latest <em>Rebellion Dogs</em> episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';min-height:15px;"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';min-height:15px;"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
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Check out Joe's latest Rebellion Dogs episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/ 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
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<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Check out Joe's latest <em>Rebellion Dogs</em> episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';min-height:15px;"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';min-height:15px;"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"><span class="s1" style="text-decoration-line:underline;"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';"> </p>
<p class="p1" style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom, Joe, and Patrick (with a late episode appearance by Allen, fresh off his somatic therapy workshop) discuss how our individual conceptions of rightness and wrongness intersect with our recoveries. How can they enhance or detract from our relationships? And as always, how can we expand our emotional sobriety within these value markers?
 
Check out Joe's latest Rebellion Dogs episode for more on this and a look ahead to recovery in the new year:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7316223/episode-75-aas-new-survey-and-new-literature
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/ 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:10:35</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Adapting to the Unexpected]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 01:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">One essential component of emotional sobriety is our willingness to adapt to changing circumstances, developing the best possible attitude towards them. This is a process, not a fixed point. In our trepidation about the zigs and zags life throws our way, we must respect our fear of the unknown but not give that fear privilege.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One essential component of emotional sobriety is our willingness to adapt to changing circumstances, developing the best possible attitude towards them. This is a process, not a fixed point. In our trepidation about the zigs and zags life throws our way, we must respect our fear of the unknown but not give that fear privilege.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Adapting to the Unexpected]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">One essential component of emotional sobriety is our willingness to adapt to changing circumstances, developing the best possible attitude towards them. This is a process, not a fixed point. In our trepidation about the zigs and zags life throws our way, we must respect our fear of the unknown but not give that fear privilege.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One essential component of emotional sobriety is our willingness to adapt to changing circumstances, developing the best possible attitude towards them. This is a process, not a fixed point. In our trepidation about the zigs and zags life throws our way, we must respect our fear of the unknown but not give that fear privilege.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:28:28</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What Aren’t We Thankful For?]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Our resistance to change and our inability to properly feel grief is connected on some levels to a lack of faith in our capacities to grow and cope. With consideration of the Thanksgiving holiday, Thom, Allen, and Patrick take a look at how those things we resent can put us in touch with deeper gratitude, containing their own lessons about emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Our resistance to change and our inability to properly feel grief is connected on some levels to a lack of faith in our capacities to grow and cope. With consideration of the Thanksgiving holiday, Thom, Allen, and Patrick take a look at how those things we resent can put us in touch with deeper gratitude, containing their own lessons about emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[What Aren’t We Thankful For?]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>123</itunes:episode>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Our resistance to change and our inability to properly feel grief is connected on some levels to a lack of faith in our capacities to grow and cope. With consideration of the Thanksgiving holiday, Thom, Allen, and Patrick take a look at how those things we resent can put us in touch with deeper gratitude, containing their own lessons about emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Our resistance to change and our inability to properly feel grief is connected on some levels to a lack of faith in our capacities to grow and cope. With consideration of the Thanksgiving holiday, Thom, Allen, and Patrick take a look at how those things we resent can put us in touch with deeper gratitude, containing their own lessons about emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:40:03</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[On the Rocks]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Patience and practice are what Thom, Allen, and now Patrick attempt to bring to bear in a set of sudden life-altering, life-threatening circumstances that mark the end of 2023.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Patience and practice are what Thom, Allen, and now Patrick attempt to bring to bear in a set of sudden life-altering, life-threatening circumstances that mark the end of 2023.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On the Rocks]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>122</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Patience and practice are what Thom, Allen, and now Patrick attempt to bring to bear in a set of sudden life-altering, life-threatening circumstances that mark the end of 2023.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Patience and practice are what Thom, Allen, and now Patrick attempt to bring to bear in a set of sudden life-altering, life-threatening circumstances that mark the end of 2023.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:33:19</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[“There Ain’t No Easy Cancer”]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2023 00:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom returns to the pod to bring Allen and Patrick up to speed on his last few challenging months, and unveils the plan for the new book he’ll be collaborating on with Allen: an update of “Earning Your Own Respect” to include a dimension of Emotional Sobriety. Allen describes some recent experiences he’s had with serendipity-a word that can describe the recovery gifts lying in wait for all of us if we trust the process. Our work continues.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Thom returns to the pod to bring Allen and Patrick up to speed on his last few challenging months, and unveils the plan for the new book he’ll be collaborating on with Allen: an update of “Earning Your Own Respect” to include a dimension of Emotional Sobriety. Allen describes some recent experiences he’s had with serendipity-a word that can describe the recovery gifts lying in wait for all of us if we trust the process. Our work continues.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[“There Ain’t No Easy Cancer”]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom returns to the pod to bring Allen and Patrick up to speed on his last few challenging months, and unveils the plan for the new book he’ll be collaborating on with Allen: an update of “Earning Your Own Respect” to include a dimension of Emotional Sobriety. Allen describes some recent experiences he’s had with serendipity-a word that can describe the recovery gifts lying in wait for all of us if we trust the process. Our work continues.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/">https://londonaaconvention.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Thom returns to the pod to bring Allen and Patrick up to speed on his last few challenging months, and unveils the plan for the new book he’ll be collaborating on with Allen: an update of “Earning Your Own Respect” to include a dimension of Emotional Sobriety. Allen describes some recent experiences he’s had with serendipity-a word that can describe the recovery gifts lying in wait for all of us if we trust the process. Our work continues.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:43:01</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[New Recovery From Trauma and PTSD]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>Allen and Joe C. delve their personal experiences with trauma in trying to highlight how these principles of Emotional Sobriety can still come through for us in light of what before may have been unspeakable.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>To register for Allen's October 28th Emotional Sobriety Symposium, please visit the following link:</p>
<p><a href="https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety-symposium/">https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety-symposium/</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>There are still some spots left in his somatic therapy and Emotional Sobriety workshop this December. Please email him at <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com">abphd@msn.com </a> for more info. </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s2">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p> </p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen and Joe C. delve their personal experiences with trauma in trying to highlight how these principles of Emotional Sobriety can still come through for us in light of what before may have been unspeakable.
 
To register for Allen's October 28th Emotional Sobriety Symposium, please visit the following link:
https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety-symposium/ 
 
There are still some spots left in his somatic therapy and Emotional Sobriety workshop this December. Please email him at abphd@msn.com  for more info. 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[New Recovery From Trauma and PTSD]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>120</itunes:episode>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p>Allen and Joe C. delve their personal experiences with trauma in trying to highlight how these principles of Emotional Sobriety can still come through for us in light of what before may have been unspeakable.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>To register for Allen's October 28th Emotional Sobriety Symposium, please visit the following link:</p>
<p><a href="https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety-symposium/">https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety-symposium/</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>There are still some spots left in his somatic therapy and Emotional Sobriety workshop this December. Please email him at <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com">abphd@msn.com </a> for more info. </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s2">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p> </p>]]>
                </content:encoded>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Allen and Joe C. delve their personal experiences with trauma in trying to highlight how these principles of Emotional Sobriety can still come through for us in light of what before may have been unspeakable.
 
To register for Allen's October 28th Emotional Sobriety Symposium, please visit the following link:
https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety-symposium/ 
 
There are still some spots left in his somatic therapy and Emotional Sobriety workshop this December. Please email him at abphd@msn.com  for more info. 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:42:25</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery in Poetry with Janine McJannett]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 02:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">RTT (Rapid Transformational) Therapist, Hypnotherapist and coach Janine McJannet has spent the better part of her life reckoning with the impact of being an adult child of alcoholics. From the loss of her father to the chaos of her own addiction, she has finally found recovery in poetry and soul empowerment, which she discusses with Allen by way of describing how emotional sobriety has come into play in her new life - with special focus given to raising two teenagers!</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Janine is the founder of the Soul Empowerment and Transformation Lounge and the Soul Playground, where women come to feel connected and celebrate themselves. She provides results through a variety of therapies, coaching programs, masterclasses, and events.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Janine’s work, including her upcoming “Women Empowered and Free” summit, on her LinkTree:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://linktr.ee/JanineMcJannet?fbclid=IwAR09mn2v_eWLxNMdNVos-_RDVNsE6BT8lqT8BzfkwbgaPASGbHg4dNHkt-M">linktr.ee/JanineMcJannet</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s3">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[RTT (Rapid Transformational) Therapist, Hypnotherapist and coach Janine McJannet has spent the better part of her life reckoning with the impact of being an adult child of alcoholics. From the loss of her father to the chaos of her own addiction, she has finally found recovery in poetry and soul empowerment, which she discusses with Allen by way of describing how emotional sobriety has come into play in her new life - with special focus given to raising two teenagers!
 
Janine is the founder of the Soul Empowerment and Transformation Lounge and the Soul Playground, where women come to feel connected and celebrate themselves. She provides results through a variety of therapies, coaching programs, masterclasses, and events.
 
Learn more about Janine’s work, including her upcoming “Women Empowered and Free” summit, on her LinkTree:
linktr.ee/JanineMcJannet
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery in Poetry with Janine McJannett]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>119</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">RTT (Rapid Transformational) Therapist, Hypnotherapist and coach Janine McJannet has spent the better part of her life reckoning with the impact of being an adult child of alcoholics. From the loss of her father to the chaos of her own addiction, she has finally found recovery in poetry and soul empowerment, which she discusses with Allen by way of describing how emotional sobriety has come into play in her new life - with special focus given to raising two teenagers!</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Janine is the founder of the Soul Empowerment and Transformation Lounge and the Soul Playground, where women come to feel connected and celebrate themselves. She provides results through a variety of therapies, coaching programs, masterclasses, and events.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about Janine’s work, including her upcoming “Women Empowered and Free” summit, on her LinkTree:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://linktr.ee/JanineMcJannet?fbclid=IwAR09mn2v_eWLxNMdNVos-_RDVNsE6BT8lqT8BzfkwbgaPASGbHg4dNHkt-M">linktr.ee/JanineMcJannet</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s3">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[RTT (Rapid Transformational) Therapist, Hypnotherapist and coach Janine McJannet has spent the better part of her life reckoning with the impact of being an adult child of alcoholics. From the loss of her father to the chaos of her own addiction, she has finally found recovery in poetry and soul empowerment, which she discusses with Allen by way of describing how emotional sobriety has come into play in her new life - with special focus given to raising two teenagers!
 
Janine is the founder of the Soul Empowerment and Transformation Lounge and the Soul Playground, where women come to feel connected and celebrate themselves. She provides results through a variety of therapies, coaching programs, masterclasses, and events.
 
Learn more about Janine’s work, including her upcoming “Women Empowered and Free” summit, on her LinkTree:
linktr.ee/JanineMcJannet
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:41:53</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Daily Practices on Recovery's Frontier (with Patrick McAteer)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 05:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Having flourished in his connection to others through the use of Zoom and WhatsApp during the pandemic, Friendly Circle Berlin Group regular Patrick McAteer joins Allen to discuss how his addictive “maladaptive coping strategies” have also been put to work for positive ends. He tells us his story, having attained 24 years of sobriety at one time before a painful relapse. He eventually found a different solution and now pursues Emotional Sobriety rigorously through a daily practice and seeking of new insights and models on recovery’s frontier. </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s2">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Having flourished in his connection to others through the use of Zoom and WhatsApp during the pandemic, Friendly Circle Berlin Group regular Patrick McAteer joins Allen to discuss how his addictive “maladaptive coping strategies” have also been put to work for positive ends. He tells us his story, having attained 24 years of sobriety at one time before a painful relapse. He eventually found a different solution and now pursues Emotional Sobriety rigorously through a daily practice and seeking of new insights and models on recovery’s frontier. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Daily Practices on Recovery's Frontier (with Patrick McAteer)]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>118</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Having flourished in his connection to others through the use of Zoom and WhatsApp during the pandemic, Friendly Circle Berlin Group regular Patrick McAteer joins Allen to discuss how his addictive “maladaptive coping strategies” have also been put to work for positive ends. He tells us his story, having attained 24 years of sobriety at one time before a painful relapse. He eventually found a different solution and now pursues Emotional Sobriety rigorously through a daily practice and seeking of new insights and models on recovery’s frontier. </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland &amp; UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST</p>
<p class="p1">Zoom Link:<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: <a href="https://londonaaconvention.com/"><span class="s2">https://londonaaconvention.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Having flourished in his connection to others through the use of Zoom and WhatsApp during the pandemic, Friendly Circle Berlin Group regular Patrick McAteer joins Allen to discuss how his addictive “maladaptive coping strategies” have also been put to work for positive ends. He tells us his story, having attained 24 years of sobriety at one time before a painful relapse. He eventually found a different solution and now pursues Emotional Sobriety rigorously through a daily practice and seeking of new insights and models on recovery’s frontier. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST
Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905
 
Info for the upcoming London International AA Convention: https://londonaaconvention.com/
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:49:07</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Oh, the Places We’ll Go (with Joe C.)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 03:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>Allen and Joe find an unlikely Emotional Sobriety kindred spirit in Dr. Seuss' "Oh, the Places You'll Go," a classic children's book that doubles as an elemental distillation of their work in this new frontier of recovery. Joe sticks around to tell us about a recent interview he conducted on the Rebellion Dogs podcast (link below), about Bill Wilson and the origins of Alcoholics Anonymous' most foundational literature.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Joe C's latest blog and episode, <strong>"4 years after Writing the Big Book: The Creation of AA."</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7275828/more-coffee-talk-with-bill-scaberg-on-aa-history-cultural-shifts-over-the-years">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7275828/more-coffee-talk-with-bill-scaberg-on-aa-history-cultural-shifts-over-the-years </a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen and Joe find an unlikely Emotional Sobriety kindred spirit in Dr. Seuss' "Oh, the Places You'll Go," a classic children's book that doubles as an elemental distillation of their work in this new frontier of recovery. Joe sticks around to tell us about a recent interview he conducted on the Rebellion Dogs podcast (link below), about Bill Wilson and the origins of Alcoholics Anonymous' most foundational literature.
 
Joe C's latest blog and episode, "4 years after Writing the Big Book: The Creation of AA."
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7275828/more-coffee-talk-with-bill-scaberg-on-aa-history-cultural-shifts-over-the-years 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Oh, the Places We’ll Go (with Joe C.)]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Allen and Joe find an unlikely Emotional Sobriety kindred spirit in Dr. Seuss' "Oh, the Places You'll Go," a classic children's book that doubles as an elemental distillation of their work in this new frontier of recovery. Joe sticks around to tell us about a recent interview he conducted on the Rebellion Dogs podcast (link below), about Bill Wilson and the origins of Alcoholics Anonymous' most foundational literature.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Joe C's latest blog and episode, <strong>"4 years after Writing the Big Book: The Creation of AA."</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7275828/more-coffee-talk-with-bill-scaberg-on-aa-history-cultural-shifts-over-the-years">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7275828/more-coffee-talk-with-bill-scaberg-on-aa-history-cultural-shifts-over-the-years </a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Joe find an unlikely Emotional Sobriety kindred spirit in Dr. Seuss' "Oh, the Places You'll Go," a classic children's book that doubles as an elemental distillation of their work in this new frontier of recovery. Joe sticks around to tell us about a recent interview he conducted on the Rebellion Dogs podcast (link below), about Bill Wilson and the origins of Alcoholics Anonymous' most foundational literature.
 
Joe C's latest blog and episode, "4 years after Writing the Big Book: The Creation of AA."
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio/blog/7275828/more-coffee-talk-with-bill-scaberg-on-aa-history-cultural-shifts-over-the-years 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:53:57</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety in Residential Treatment]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2023 15:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Melanie Gulde, program director of the soon-to-open <em>Divided Sky</em> residential recovery retreat located in Ludlow, Vermont, drops by discuss her new approach to in-patient recovery treatment. The forthcoming passion project incorporates much of Allen’s conception of emotional sobriety, even some of his books, and integrates body-focused forms of treatment. She also describes a personal recovery that has evolved considerably over time, beginning in the 90’s and then revitalizing in the early aughts through confrontation with her unhealthy emotional dependencies.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More about Divided Sky Residential Recovery Program: <a href="https://www.dividedskyfoundation.com/"><span class="s1">https://www.dividedskyfoundation.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Melanie Gulde, program director of the soon-to-open Divided Sky residential recovery retreat located in Ludlow, Vermont, drops by discuss her new approach to in-patient recovery treatment. The forthcoming passion project incorporates much of Allen’s conception of emotional sobriety, even some of his books, and integrates body-focused forms of treatment. She also describes a personal recovery that has evolved considerably over time, beginning in the 90’s and then revitalizing in the early aughts through confrontation with her unhealthy emotional dependencies.
 
More about Divided Sky Residential Recovery Program: https://www.dividedskyfoundation.com/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety in Residential Treatment]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>116</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Melanie Gulde, program director of the soon-to-open <em>Divided Sky</em> residential recovery retreat located in Ludlow, Vermont, drops by discuss her new approach to in-patient recovery treatment. The forthcoming passion project incorporates much of Allen’s conception of emotional sobriety, even some of his books, and integrates body-focused forms of treatment. She also describes a personal recovery that has evolved considerably over time, beginning in the 90’s and then revitalizing in the early aughts through confrontation with her unhealthy emotional dependencies.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More about Divided Sky Residential Recovery Program: <a href="https://www.dividedskyfoundation.com/"><span class="s1">https://www.dividedskyfoundation.com/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Melanie Gulde, program director of the soon-to-open Divided Sky residential recovery retreat located in Ludlow, Vermont, drops by discuss her new approach to in-patient recovery treatment. The forthcoming passion project incorporates much of Allen’s conception of emotional sobriety, even some of his books, and integrates body-focused forms of treatment. She also describes a personal recovery that has evolved considerably over time, beginning in the 90’s and then revitalizing in the early aughts through confrontation with her unhealthy emotional dependencies.
 
More about Divided Sky Residential Recovery Program: https://www.dividedskyfoundation.com/
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:25</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[It’s Never Too Late]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2023 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/25529/episode/1553401</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/its-never-too-late</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">In a later season of her life, Susan Chandler had to reckon with the collapse of a marriage, unemployment, the loss of a community, and horrific traumas both old and new. Through her embrace of recovery and a recent turn towards emotional sobriety, she’s gained a new perspective that has saved her life in countless ways. Allen chats with a friend, colleague, and vital member of our emotional sobriety fellowship about her profound journey.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[In a later season of her life, Susan Chandler had to reckon with the collapse of a marriage, unemployment, the loss of a community, and horrific traumas both old and new. Through her embrace of recovery and a recent turn towards emotional sobriety, she’s gained a new perspective that has saved her life in countless ways. Allen chats with a friend, colleague, and vital member of our emotional sobriety fellowship about her profound journey.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[It’s Never Too Late]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>115</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">In a later season of her life, Susan Chandler had to reckon with the collapse of a marriage, unemployment, the loss of a community, and horrific traumas both old and new. Through her embrace of recovery and a recent turn towards emotional sobriety, she’s gained a new perspective that has saved her life in countless ways. Allen chats with a friend, colleague, and vital member of our emotional sobriety fellowship about her profound journey.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                </content:encoded>
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                        type="audio/mpeg">
                    </enclosure>
                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[In a later season of her life, Susan Chandler had to reckon with the collapse of a marriage, unemployment, the loss of a community, and horrific traumas both old and new. Through her embrace of recovery and a recent turn towards emotional sobriety, she’s gained a new perspective that has saved her life in countless ways. Allen chats with a friend, colleague, and vital member of our emotional sobriety fellowship about her profound journey.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:26</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Awakening Our Truest Selves]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">To be loved, to be accepted, and to belong, we early in life construct an identity that, as Allen describes, is like “building a foundation on someone else’s property.” The dissonance can knock us out of alignment and alienate us from our true natures. The process of emotional sobriety is a process of awakening into our True Self. Patrick, Joe C. and Allen unpack the third chapter of Allen’s book <em>12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>, touching on their personal experiences past and present along the way.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To be loved, to be accepted, and to belong, we early in life construct an identity that, as Allen describes, is like “building a foundation on someone else’s property.” The dissonance can knock us out of alignment and alienate us from our true natures. The process of emotional sobriety is a process of awakening into our True Self. Patrick, Joe C. and Allen unpack the third chapter of Allen’s book 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety, touching on their personal experiences past and present along the way.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Awakening Our Truest Selves]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>114</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">To be loved, to be accepted, and to belong, we early in life construct an identity that, as Allen describes, is like “building a foundation on someone else’s property.” The dissonance can knock us out of alignment and alienate us from our true natures. The process of emotional sobriety is a process of awakening into our True Self. Patrick, Joe C. and Allen unpack the third chapter of Allen’s book <em>12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>, touching on their personal experiences past and present along the way.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To be loved, to be accepted, and to belong, we early in life construct an identity that, as Allen describes, is like “building a foundation on someone else’s property.” The dissonance can knock us out of alignment and alienate us from our true natures. The process of emotional sobriety is a process of awakening into our True Self. Patrick, Joe C. and Allen unpack the third chapter of Allen’s book 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety, touching on their personal experiences past and present along the way.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:44:44</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Surviving and Thriving in Motherhood with Celeste Yvonne]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 03:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Celeste Yvonne, certified recovery coach and author of <em>It’s Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth Behind Mommy Wine Culture</em> joins us to chat about motherhood, growing up in an alcoholic home, the terror and hidden opportunities of the pandemic, and losing and making friends along the way. The focal point of her work in recovery is looking beyond the wine (or any substance), for the solution to life’s distresses, and encouraging struggling women everywhere to do the same.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><strong>Pre-order Celeste’s book:</strong> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506486754"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506486754?</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Her social media handles:</strong> @TheUltimateMomChallenge</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="http://www.instagram.com/theultimatemomchallenge">www.instagram.com/theultimatemomchallenge</a></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/theultimatemomchallenge">www.facebook.com/theultimatemomchallenge</a></span><span class="s1"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s3">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Celeste Yvonne, certified recovery coach and author of It’s Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth Behind Mommy Wine Culture joins us to chat about motherhood, growing up in an alcoholic home, the terror and hidden opportunities of the pandemic, and losing and making friends along the way. The focal point of her work in recovery is looking beyond the wine (or any substance), for the solution to life’s distresses, and encouraging struggling women everywhere to do the same.
 
Pre-order Celeste’s book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506486754?
 
Her social media handles: @TheUltimateMomChallenge
www.instagram.com/theultimatemomchallenge
www.facebook.com/theultimatemomchallenge 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Surviving and Thriving in Motherhood with Celeste Yvonne]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>113</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Celeste Yvonne, certified recovery coach and author of <em>It’s Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth Behind Mommy Wine Culture</em> joins us to chat about motherhood, growing up in an alcoholic home, the terror and hidden opportunities of the pandemic, and losing and making friends along the way. The focal point of her work in recovery is looking beyond the wine (or any substance), for the solution to life’s distresses, and encouraging struggling women everywhere to do the same.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><strong>Pre-order Celeste’s book:</strong> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506486754"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506486754?</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Her social media handles:</strong> @TheUltimateMomChallenge</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="http://www.instagram.com/theultimatemomchallenge">www.instagram.com/theultimatemomchallenge</a></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/theultimatemomchallenge">www.facebook.com/theultimatemomchallenge</a></span><span class="s1"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s3">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/5eff6780ce3379-03844818/1536372/Emotional-Sobriety-Episode-112.mp3" length="71505559"
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Celeste Yvonne, certified recovery coach and author of It’s Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth Behind Mommy Wine Culture joins us to chat about motherhood, growing up in an alcoholic home, the terror and hidden opportunities of the pandemic, and losing and making friends along the way. The focal point of her work in recovery is looking beyond the wine (or any substance), for the solution to life’s distresses, and encouraging struggling women everywhere to do the same.
 
Pre-order Celeste’s book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506486754?
 
Her social media handles: @TheUltimateMomChallenge
www.instagram.com/theultimatemomchallenge
www.facebook.com/theultimatemomchallenge 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:49:37</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Self-Esteem and Emotional Sobriety with Roger Andes]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2023 16:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Therapist Roger Andes, longtime friend and frequent collaborator on Thom and Allen’s 12-Step workshops, drops in to discuss his latest experiences with self-esteem. Influenced in large part by the work of Nathaniel Branden, it’s a central theme to his area of study and touches every level of the recovery process.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Therapist Roger Andes, longtime friend and frequent collaborator on Thom and Allen’s 12-Step workshops, drops in to discuss his latest experiences with self-esteem. Influenced in large part by the work of Nathaniel Branden, it’s a central theme to his area of study and touches every level of the recovery process.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                    <![CDATA[Self-Esteem and Emotional Sobriety with Roger Andes]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>112</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Therapist Roger Andes, longtime friend and frequent collaborator on Thom and Allen’s 12-Step workshops, drops in to discuss his latest experiences with self-esteem. Influenced in large part by the work of Nathaniel Branden, it’s a central theme to his area of study and touches every level of the recovery process.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Therapist Roger Andes, longtime friend and frequent collaborator on Thom and Allen’s 12-Step workshops, drops in to discuss his latest experiences with self-esteem. Influenced in large part by the work of Nathaniel Branden, it’s a central theme to his area of study and touches every level of the recovery process.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:40:26</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery's Paradoxes]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2023 00:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Living peacefully with the irreconcilable is at the core of what creates change. Thom and Allen alternately draw upon their own journeys towards acceptance - past and present. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Living peacefully with the irreconcilable is at the core of what creates change. Thom and Allen alternately draw upon their own journeys towards acceptance - past and present. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery's Paradoxes]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>111</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Living peacefully with the irreconcilable is at the core of what creates change. Thom and Allen alternately draw upon their own journeys towards acceptance - past and present. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Living peacefully with the irreconcilable is at the core of what creates change. Thom and Allen alternately draw upon their own journeys towards acceptance - past and present. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:51:44</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Keeping Cool with Carol Carter]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 00:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/keeping-cool-with-carol-carter</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">On a weekend of record heatwaves, to escape the crushing anxiety Thom and Patrick invite longtime collaborator Carol Carter on the pod to gauge her emotional sobriety after retiring from her longtime job. Thom shares some details about the attitude he’s trying to bring to his cancer diagnosis and treatment, while Patrick laments losing $750 in the space of five minutes, and how that challenged his emotional sobriety like few things in recovery have.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Check out our earlier podcast, Start Right Here, for an archive of amazing interviews and Emotional Sobriety-adjacent content with Allen and Thom:</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://pod.link/1525039302">https://pod.link/1525039302</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[On a weekend of record heatwaves, to escape the crushing anxiety Thom and Patrick invite longtime collaborator Carol Carter on the pod to gauge her emotional sobriety after retiring from her longtime job. Thom shares some details about the attitude he’s trying to bring to his cancer diagnosis and treatment, while Patrick laments losing $750 in the space of five minutes, and how that challenged his emotional sobriety like few things in recovery have.
 
Check out our earlier podcast, Start Right Here, for an archive of amazing interviews and Emotional Sobriety-adjacent content with Allen and Thom:
https://pod.link/1525039302
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Keeping Cool with Carol Carter]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">On a weekend of record heatwaves, to escape the crushing anxiety Thom and Patrick invite longtime collaborator Carol Carter on the pod to gauge her emotional sobriety after retiring from her longtime job. Thom shares some details about the attitude he’s trying to bring to his cancer diagnosis and treatment, while Patrick laments losing $750 in the space of five minutes, and how that challenged his emotional sobriety like few things in recovery have.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Check out our earlier podcast, Start Right Here, for an archive of amazing interviews and Emotional Sobriety-adjacent content with Allen and Thom:</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://pod.link/1525039302">https://pod.link/1525039302</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On a weekend of record heatwaves, to escape the crushing anxiety Thom and Patrick invite longtime collaborator Carol Carter on the pod to gauge her emotional sobriety after retiring from her longtime job. Thom shares some details about the attitude he’s trying to bring to his cancer diagnosis and treatment, while Patrick laments losing $750 in the space of five minutes, and how that challenged his emotional sobriety like few things in recovery have.
 
Check out our earlier podcast, Start Right Here, for an archive of amazing interviews and Emotional Sobriety-adjacent content with Allen and Thom:
https://pod.link/1525039302
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:50:10</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Change Calls the Tune We Dance To]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2023 16:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">As much as we strive to cultivate our emotional sobriety, learning to lean on self-support rather than environmental support, those expectations and rules inevitably come creeping back in, and that’s okay. We’re resistant to sudden changes in circumstance because they force us to locate our center of gravity all over again. Using the present moment as fully as we can is a key to surviving the curveballs life sends our way be they cancer (Thom), divorce (Allen), or online bullshit (Patrick).</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[As much as we strive to cultivate our emotional sobriety, learning to lean on self-support rather than environmental support, those expectations and rules inevitably come creeping back in, and that’s okay. We’re resistant to sudden changes in circumstance because they force us to locate our center of gravity all over again. Using the present moment as fully as we can is a key to surviving the curveballs life sends our way be they cancer (Thom), divorce (Allen), or online bullshit (Patrick).
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Change Calls the Tune We Dance To]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>108</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">As much as we strive to cultivate our emotional sobriety, learning to lean on self-support rather than environmental support, those expectations and rules inevitably come creeping back in, and that’s okay. We’re resistant to sudden changes in circumstance because they force us to locate our center of gravity all over again. Using the present moment as fully as we can is a key to surviving the curveballs life sends our way be they cancer (Thom), divorce (Allen), or online bullshit (Patrick).</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[As much as we strive to cultivate our emotional sobriety, learning to lean on self-support rather than environmental support, those expectations and rules inevitably come creeping back in, and that’s okay. We’re resistant to sudden changes in circumstance because they force us to locate our center of gravity all over again. Using the present moment as fully as we can is a key to surviving the curveballs life sends our way be they cancer (Thom), divorce (Allen), or online bullshit (Patrick).
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:26:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Let Fear Be Your Teacher ]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Health care and financial insecurity are just a couple of the subjects Thom, Joe, and Patrick touch on as they contemplate how life’s most challenging dynamics truly put our emotional sobriety to the test.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Thom Rutledge’s “Let Fear Be Your Teacher”: <a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_8293179808864a26bd9b105520d458eb.pdf">https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_8293179808864a26bd9b105520d458eb.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">His book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s3">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p3">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p3">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p3">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Health care and financial insecurity are just a couple of the subjects Thom, Joe, and Patrick touch on as they contemplate how life’s most challenging dynamics truly put our emotional sobriety to the test.
 
Thom Rutledge’s “Let Fear Be Your Teacher”: https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_8293179808864a26bd9b105520d458eb.pdf
 
His book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Let Fear Be Your Teacher ]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>107</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Health care and financial insecurity are just a couple of the subjects Thom, Joe, and Patrick touch on as they contemplate how life’s most challenging dynamics truly put our emotional sobriety to the test.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Thom Rutledge’s “Let Fear Be Your Teacher”: <a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_8293179808864a26bd9b105520d458eb.pdf">https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_8293179808864a26bd9b105520d458eb.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">His book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s3">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p3">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p3">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p3">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                </content:encoded>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Health care and financial insecurity are just a couple of the subjects Thom, Joe, and Patrick touch on as they contemplate how life’s most challenging dynamics truly put our emotional sobriety to the test.
 
Thom Rutledge’s “Let Fear Be Your Teacher”: https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_8293179808864a26bd9b105520d458eb.pdf
 
His book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:54:52</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety & Self-Respect]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 01:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">What does it mean to respect ourselves, and how can we put it to work once we’ve attained some physical sobriety and begin to move towards greater emotional freedom? Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs joins us from a workshop at Hazelden Minnesota to lend his perspective.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Erving Polster’s book referenced in the episode, <em>Every Person’s Life Is Worth a Novel</em>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[What does it mean to respect ourselves, and how can we put it to work once we’ve attained some physical sobriety and begin to move towards greater emotional freedom? Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs joins us from a workshop at Hazelden Minnesota to lend his perspective.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Erving Polster’s book referenced in the episode, Every Person’s Life Is Worth a Novel: https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety & Self-Respect]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>106</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">What does it mean to respect ourselves, and how can we put it to work once we’ve attained some physical sobriety and begin to move towards greater emotional freedom? Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs joins us from a workshop at Hazelden Minnesota to lend his perspective.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Erving Polster’s book referenced in the episode, <em>Every Person’s Life Is Worth a Novel</em>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[What does it mean to respect ourselves, and how can we put it to work once we’ve attained some physical sobriety and begin to move towards greater emotional freedom? Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs joins us from a workshop at Hazelden Minnesota to lend his perspective.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Erving Polster’s book referenced in the episode, Every Person’s Life Is Worth a Novel: https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:44:32</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Every Life Is Worth a Novel]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 00:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen references Erving Polster’s book while contemplating how the broad span of our lives have a dramatic richness and fullness that can illuminate crucial details about our present. Patrick celebrates 5 years of continuous sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Erving Polster’s book referenced in the episode, <em>Every Person’s Life Is Worth a Novel</em>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen references Erving Polster’s book while contemplating how the broad span of our lives have a dramatic richness and fullness that can illuminate crucial details about our present. Patrick celebrates 5 years of continuous sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Erving Polster’s book referenced in the episode, Every Person’s Life Is Worth a Novel: https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Every Life Is Worth a Novel]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>105</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen references Erving Polster’s book while contemplating how the broad span of our lives have a dramatic richness and fullness that can illuminate crucial details about our present. Patrick celebrates 5 years of continuous sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Erving Polster’s book referenced in the episode, <em>Every Person’s Life Is Worth a Novel</em>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377</span></a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Allen references Erving Polster’s book while contemplating how the broad span of our lives have a dramatic richness and fullness that can illuminate crucial details about our present. Patrick celebrates 5 years of continuous sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Erving Polster’s book referenced in the episode, Every Person’s Life Is Worth a Novel: https://www.amazon.com/Every-Persons-Life-Worth-Novel/dp/0939266377
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:33:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Depression's Long Game]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2023 00:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Picking up with Thom Rutledge about his recent struggles with depression, something that’s been with him since his early days of recovery. This form of crisis dovetails with a passage from Allen’s <em>12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>: “Getting stuck is our signal that it’s time to learn something new. The trouble we are experiencing, wherever it’s showing up in our lives, is highlighting the next step in our development, the next step in our emotional maturity, the next step in our recovery. That step is the journey of emotional sobriety.” Allen Berger returns to the podcast next week.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Picking up with Thom Rutledge about his recent struggles with depression, something that’s been with him since his early days of recovery. This form of crisis dovetails with a passage from Allen’s 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: “Getting stuck is our signal that it’s time to learn something new. The trouble we are experiencing, wherever it’s showing up in our lives, is highlighting the next step in our development, the next step in our emotional maturity, the next step in our recovery. That step is the journey of emotional sobriety.” Allen Berger returns to the podcast next week.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Depression's Long Game]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>104</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Picking up with Thom Rutledge about his recent struggles with depression, something that’s been with him since his early days of recovery. This form of crisis dovetails with a passage from Allen’s <em>12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>: “Getting stuck is our signal that it’s time to learn something new. The trouble we are experiencing, wherever it’s showing up in our lives, is highlighting the next step in our development, the next step in our emotional maturity, the next step in our recovery. That step is the journey of emotional sobriety.” Allen Berger returns to the podcast next week.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Picking up with Thom Rutledge about his recent struggles with depression, something that’s been with him since his early days of recovery. This form of crisis dovetails with a passage from Allen’s 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: “Getting stuck is our signal that it’s time to learn something new. The trouble we are experiencing, wherever it’s showing up in our lives, is highlighting the next step in our development, the next step in our emotional maturity, the next step in our recovery. That step is the journey of emotional sobriety.” Allen Berger returns to the podcast next week.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:39:40</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Freedom at Cost]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2023 21:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>The team unpacks their month of hard knocks and give their best shot at illustrating how life's heaviest challenges can deepen our recovery, aid us on the path towards greater emotional freedom, and improve alignment with our emerging value system. Joe C. of Rebellion Dogs joins us to help bring a candle into the darkness.</p>
<p> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[The team unpacks their month of hard knocks and give their best shot at illustrating how life's heaviest challenges can deepen our recovery, aid us on the path towards greater emotional freedom, and improve alignment with our emerging value system. Joe C. of Rebellion Dogs joins us to help bring a candle into the darkness.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Freedom at Cost]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>103</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p>The team unpacks their month of hard knocks and give their best shot at illustrating how life's heaviest challenges can deepen our recovery, aid us on the path towards greater emotional freedom, and improve alignment with our emerging value system. Joe C. of Rebellion Dogs joins us to help bring a candle into the darkness.</p>
<p> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                </content:encoded>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[The team unpacks their month of hard knocks and give their best shot at illustrating how life's heaviest challenges can deepen our recovery, aid us on the path towards greater emotional freedom, and improve alignment with our emerging value system. Joe C. of Rebellion Dogs joins us to help bring a candle into the darkness.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:47:49</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Shifting to the Best Possible Attitude]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2023 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/25529/episode/1459205</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/shifting-to-the-best-possible-attitude</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Part of our mission statement as we move towards greater emotional freedom is to have the best possible attitude towards life, towards ourselves, and towards others. First we must become aware of what our attitude is. We must engage our curiosity, and find our willingness to change. As we search for what to do, we avoid the impulse to blame. The taking of responsibility and assigning of blame cannot be fused, as it puts us on the defense.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Part of our mission statement as we move towards greater emotional freedom is to have the best possible attitude towards life, towards ourselves, and towards others. First we must become aware of what our attitude is. We must engage our curiosity, and find our willingness to change. As we search for what to do, we avoid the impulse to blame. The taking of responsibility and assigning of blame cannot be fused, as it puts us on the defense.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Shifting to the Best Possible Attitude]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>102</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Part of our mission statement as we move towards greater emotional freedom is to have the best possible attitude towards life, towards ourselves, and towards others. First we must become aware of what our attitude is. We must engage our curiosity, and find our willingness to change. As we search for what to do, we avoid the impulse to blame. The taking of responsibility and assigning of blame cannot be fused, as it puts us on the defense.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Part of our mission statement as we move towards greater emotional freedom is to have the best possible attitude towards life, towards ourselves, and towards others. First we must become aware of what our attitude is. We must engage our curiosity, and find our willingness to change. As we search for what to do, we avoid the impulse to blame. The taking of responsibility and assigning of blame cannot be fused, as it puts us on the defense.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:22:55</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[A New Way of Making Amends]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Foundational to Emotional Sobriety is the recognition that we aren’t bad people trying to be good people. We’re simply trying to take responsibility for our part, and to have more agency over our lives. Integrating our experiences is a way to do it - not negating any part of who we are. This is why the amends call forth and demand to be addressed. We are always moving towards wholeness.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Foundational to Emotional Sobriety is the recognition that we aren’t bad people trying to be good people. We’re simply trying to take responsibility for our part, and to have more agency over our lives. Integrating our experiences is a way to do it - not negating any part of who we are. This is why the amends call forth and demand to be addressed. We are always moving towards wholeness.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[A New Way of Making Amends]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>101</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Foundational to Emotional Sobriety is the recognition that we aren’t bad people trying to be good people. We’re simply trying to take responsibility for our part, and to have more agency over our lives. Integrating our experiences is a way to do it - not negating any part of who we are. This is why the amends call forth and demand to be addressed. We are always moving towards wholeness.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                </content:encoded>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Foundational to Emotional Sobriety is the recognition that we aren’t bad people trying to be good people. We’re simply trying to take responsibility for our part, and to have more agency over our lives. Integrating our experiences is a way to do it - not negating any part of who we are. This is why the amends call forth and demand to be addressed. We are always moving towards wholeness.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:27:27</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[When the Road Meets the Rubber]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2023 17:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Decades after his service in the Vietnam War, Allen realized the extent of his disability and trauma after a chance encounter with a fellow veteran at a 12 step meeting. First he felt anger, but with time and investigation he found deeper layers to how his experience in the war affected him. This crisis put his emotional sobriety to work in a big way. Confronting what has long been suppressed is a crucial step in our pathway towards greater emotional freedom. </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Decades after his service in the Vietnam War, Allen realized the extent of his disability and trauma after a chance encounter with a fellow veteran at a 12 step meeting. First he felt anger, but with time and investigation he found deeper layers to how his experience in the war affected him. This crisis put his emotional sobriety to work in a big way. Confronting what has long been suppressed is a crucial step in our pathway towards greater emotional freedom. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When the Road Meets the Rubber]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Decades after his service in the Vietnam War, Allen realized the extent of his disability and trauma after a chance encounter with a fellow veteran at a 12 step meeting. First he felt anger, but with time and investigation he found deeper layers to how his experience in the war affected him. This crisis put his emotional sobriety to work in a big way. Confronting what has long been suppressed is a crucial step in our pathway towards greater emotional freedom. </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Decades after his service in the Vietnam War, Allen realized the extent of his disability and trauma after a chance encounter with a fellow veteran at a 12 step meeting. First he felt anger, but with time and investigation he found deeper layers to how his experience in the war affected him. This crisis put his emotional sobriety to work in a big way. Confronting what has long been suppressed is a crucial step in our pathway towards greater emotional freedom. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:20:55</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When the Rubber Meets the Road]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 02:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">With some inspiration from W. Timothy Gallwey’s <em>The Inner Game of Tennis</em> (one of the only self-help books Thom has ever read) and Allen’s metaphor of the gymnast’s precision moving across a balancing beam, we return again to how Emotional Sobriety can be put into practice. In particular, locating the "emotional center of gravity" inside ourselves allows us to be more present for our loved ones: in everyday life, and in times of crisis.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[With some inspiration from W. Timothy Gallwey’s The Inner Game of Tennis (one of the only self-help books Thom has ever read) and Allen’s metaphor of the gymnast’s precision moving across a balancing beam, we return again to how Emotional Sobriety can be put into practice. In particular, locating the "emotional center of gravity" inside ourselves allows us to be more present for our loved ones: in everyday life, and in times of crisis.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[When the Rubber Meets the Road]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>99</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">With some inspiration from W. Timothy Gallwey’s <em>The Inner Game of Tennis</em> (one of the only self-help books Thom has ever read) and Allen’s metaphor of the gymnast’s precision moving across a balancing beam, we return again to how Emotional Sobriety can be put into practice. In particular, locating the "emotional center of gravity" inside ourselves allows us to be more present for our loved ones: in everyday life, and in times of crisis.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[With some inspiration from W. Timothy Gallwey’s The Inner Game of Tennis (one of the only self-help books Thom has ever read) and Allen’s metaphor of the gymnast’s precision moving across a balancing beam, we return again to how Emotional Sobriety can be put into practice. In particular, locating the "emotional center of gravity" inside ourselves allows us to be more present for our loved ones: in everyday life, and in times of crisis.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:30:08</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[True Acceptance]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 06:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Brian Lutz and Thom Rutledge recently encountered critical challenges in their marriages that tested their capacity for acceptance. Acceptance of their partners’ medical outcomes as well as their own messiness and shortcomings. Running towards, rather than away from their most uncomfortable feelings has helped them locate their emotional center of gravity inside themselves, rather than the shifting material conditions of their lives.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Brian Lutz and Thom Rutledge recently encountered critical challenges in their marriages that tested their capacity for acceptance. Acceptance of their partners’ medical outcomes as well as their own messiness and shortcomings. Running towards, rather than away from their most uncomfortable feelings has helped them locate their emotional center of gravity inside themselves, rather than the shifting material conditions of their lives.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[True Acceptance]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>98</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Brian Lutz and Thom Rutledge recently encountered critical challenges in their marriages that tested their capacity for acceptance. Acceptance of their partners’ medical outcomes as well as their own messiness and shortcomings. Running towards, rather than away from their most uncomfortable feelings has helped them locate their emotional center of gravity inside themselves, rather than the shifting material conditions of their lives.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Brian Lutz and Thom Rutledge recently encountered critical challenges in their marriages that tested their capacity for acceptance. Acceptance of their partners’ medical outcomes as well as their own messiness and shortcomings. Running towards, rather than away from their most uncomfortable feelings has helped them locate their emotional center of gravity inside themselves, rather than the shifting material conditions of their lives.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:46:55</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Decision Maker]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2023 06:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Locating our authentic self in the midst of our warring inner committee and standing our ground - not against others but for ourselves - is at the crux of emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Locating our authentic self in the midst of our warring inner committee and standing our ground - not against others but for ourselves - is at the crux of emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Decision Maker]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Locating our authentic self in the midst of our warring inner committee and standing our ground - not against others but for ourselves - is at the crux of emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Locating our authentic self in the midst of our warring inner committee and standing our ground - not against others but for ourselves - is at the crux of emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:36:55</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety, Stewardship & Service (Part Two)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2023 04:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">A we engage with the recovery impetus to be of service to others, In addition to the reward there may also an activation of guilt and other issues tied to our early experiences with our family of origin. Allen shines a light on the importance of integrating taking care of ourselves with taking care of others. These drives are inextricable from each other, and push us towards greater emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read Joe’s new blog post <strong>Servitude &amp; Stewardship: Emotional Sobriety and the Twelve Traditions</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[A we engage with the recovery impetus to be of service to others, In addition to the reward there may also an activation of guilt and other issues tied to our early experiences with our family of origin. Allen shines a light on the importance of integrating taking care of ourselves with taking care of others. These drives are inextricable from each other, and push us towards greater emotional sobriety.
 
Read Joe’s new blog post Servitude & Stewardship: Emotional Sobriety and the Twelve Traditions:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety, Stewardship & Service (Part Two)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">A we engage with the recovery impetus to be of service to others, In addition to the reward there may also an activation of guilt and other issues tied to our early experiences with our family of origin. Allen shines a light on the importance of integrating taking care of ourselves with taking care of others. These drives are inextricable from each other, and push us towards greater emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read Joe’s new blog post <strong>Servitude &amp; Stewardship: Emotional Sobriety and the Twelve Traditions</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A we engage with the recovery impetus to be of service to others, In addition to the reward there may also an activation of guilt and other issues tied to our early experiences with our family of origin. Allen shines a light on the importance of integrating taking care of ourselves with taking care of others. These drives are inextricable from each other, and push us towards greater emotional sobriety.
 
Read Joe’s new blog post Servitude & Stewardship: Emotional Sobriety and the Twelve Traditions:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:37:32</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety, Stewardship & Service (Part One)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Recovery (and Emotional Sobriety) are contagious! Joe Chisholm returns to the pod to chat with Thom and Patrick about the benefits we can reap from looking outward, focusing on mutual aid rather than self-help. 12 Step recovery groups are “chaordic,” “communitarian” spaces where we can find the structure we need but also the latitude to be spontaneous. As we step into a more conscious life of recovery, we create positive ripples that affect the lives of others in unexpected ways. In this episode and the next (when Allen returns to the show), we discuss how to make more and greater ripples. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read Joe’s new blog post <strong>Servitude &amp; Stewardship: Emotional Sobriety and the Twelve Traditions</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery (and Emotional Sobriety) are contagious! Joe Chisholm returns to the pod to chat with Thom and Patrick about the benefits we can reap from looking outward, focusing on mutual aid rather than self-help. 12 Step recovery groups are “chaordic,” “communitarian” spaces where we can find the structure we need but also the latitude to be spontaneous. As we step into a more conscious life of recovery, we create positive ripples that affect the lives of others in unexpected ways. In this episode and the next (when Allen returns to the show), we discuss how to make more and greater ripples. 
 
Read Joe’s new blog post Servitude & Stewardship: Emotional Sobriety and the Twelve Traditions:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety, Stewardship & Service (Part One)]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>95</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Recovery (and Emotional Sobriety) are contagious! Joe Chisholm returns to the pod to chat with Thom and Patrick about the benefits we can reap from looking outward, focusing on mutual aid rather than self-help. 12 Step recovery groups are “chaordic,” “communitarian” spaces where we can find the structure we need but also the latitude to be spontaneous. As we step into a more conscious life of recovery, we create positive ripples that affect the lives of others in unexpected ways. In this episode and the next (when Allen returns to the show), we discuss how to make more and greater ripples. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Read Joe’s new blog post <strong>Servitude &amp; Stewardship: Emotional Sobriety and the Twelve Traditions</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Recovery (and Emotional Sobriety) are contagious! Joe Chisholm returns to the pod to chat with Thom and Patrick about the benefits we can reap from looking outward, focusing on mutual aid rather than self-help. 12 Step recovery groups are “chaordic,” “communitarian” spaces where we can find the structure we need but also the latitude to be spontaneous. As we step into a more conscious life of recovery, we create positive ripples that affect the lives of others in unexpected ways. In this episode and the next (when Allen returns to the show), we discuss how to make more and greater ripples. 
 
Read Joe’s new blog post Servitude & Stewardship: Emotional Sobriety and the Twelve Traditions:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/blog/blog/7165598/servitude-stewardship-emotional-sobriety-and-the-twelve-traditions
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A New Perspective on Failure]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 05:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">As we become more awakened in emotional sobriety, we begin to challenge all our old ideas. The power struggle of emotional dependency and the temptation to frame our experience according to "shoulds," are hurdles to overcome. To cast ourselves in a negative light because we fail, lose, or are disappointed is living a life that’s only partially lived.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[As we become more awakened in emotional sobriety, we begin to challenge all our old ideas. The power struggle of emotional dependency and the temptation to frame our experience according to "shoulds," are hurdles to overcome. To cast ourselves in a negative light because we fail, lose, or are disappointed is living a life that’s only partially lived.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[A New Perspective on Failure]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>94</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">As we become more awakened in emotional sobriety, we begin to challenge all our old ideas. The power struggle of emotional dependency and the temptation to frame our experience according to "shoulds," are hurdles to overcome. To cast ourselves in a negative light because we fail, lose, or are disappointed is living a life that’s only partially lived.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[As we become more awakened in emotional sobriety, we begin to challenge all our old ideas. The power struggle of emotional dependency and the temptation to frame our experience according to "shoulds," are hurdles to overcome. To cast ourselves in a negative light because we fail, lose, or are disappointed is living a life that’s only partially lived.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:42:39</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Authentic Values]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">How can we learn to live in better alignment with our values? Some of our values are unconscious, and benefit by being brought into the light. We run into problems when we identify more with our false selves than our genuine selves. Where we are with our self-esteem can have a massive influence on how these dynamics play out.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[How can we learn to live in better alignment with our values? Some of our values are unconscious, and benefit by being brought into the light. We run into problems when we identify more with our false selves than our genuine selves. Where we are with our self-esteem can have a massive influence on how these dynamics play out.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Authentic Values]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>93</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">How can we learn to live in better alignment with our values? Some of our values are unconscious, and benefit by being brought into the light. We run into problems when we identify more with our false selves than our genuine selves. Where we are with our self-esteem can have a massive influence on how these dynamics play out.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[How can we learn to live in better alignment with our values? Some of our values are unconscious, and benefit by being brought into the light. We run into problems when we identify more with our false selves than our genuine selves. Where we are with our self-esteem can have a massive influence on how these dynamics play out.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:44:50</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Ripple Effect]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>Thom and Allen hold down the fort to discuss the role of honesty in therapy. Allen shares the profoundly positive feedback he received from someone who brought Emotional Sobriety to their recovery while in prison.</p>
<p> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Thom and Allen hold down the fort to discuss the role of honesty in therapy. Allen shares the profoundly positive feedback he received from someone who brought Emotional Sobriety to their recovery while in prison.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ripple Effect]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>92</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Thom and Allen hold down the fort to discuss the role of honesty in therapy. Allen shares the profoundly positive feedback he received from someone who brought Emotional Sobriety to their recovery while in prison.</p>
<p> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Allen hold down the fort to discuss the role of honesty in therapy. Allen shares the profoundly positive feedback he received from someone who brought Emotional Sobriety to their recovery while in prison.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:32:58</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[“Maddiction” with Joe C.]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">It feels good to judge. What does that reveal about ourselves, and how can we work on putting this energy to better use? Exploring how our tendency towards righteous indignation, or “maddiction,” intersects with emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[It feels good to judge. What does that reveal about ourselves, and how can we work on putting this energy to better use? Exploring how our tendency towards righteous indignation, or “maddiction,” intersects with emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[“Maddiction” with Joe C.]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>91</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">It feels good to judge. What does that reveal about ourselves, and how can we work on putting this energy to better use? Exploring how our tendency towards righteous indignation, or “maddiction,” intersects with emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[It feels good to judge. What does that reveal about ourselves, and how can we work on putting this energy to better use? Exploring how our tendency towards righteous indignation, or “maddiction,” intersects with emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:47:21</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Radical Honesty]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2023 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Allen discuss what it means to be "radically honest." Radical honesty begins with self-honesty. We can’t do it with other people if we don’t first understand ourselves.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s2">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Thom and Allen discuss what it means to be "radically honest." Radical honesty begins with self-honesty. We can’t do it with other people if we don’t first understand ourselves.
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Radical Honesty]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Allen discuss what it means to be "radically honest." Radical honesty begins with self-honesty. We can’t do it with other people if we don’t first understand ourselves.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s2">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Allen discuss what it means to be "radically honest." Radical honesty begins with self-honesty. We can’t do it with other people if we don’t first understand ourselves.
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:44:22</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Practice Makes Practice]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 05:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Patrick dig into their rocky pre-recovery days, charting the evolution their consciousnesses have taken.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> While encountering challenges, k</span>eep it simple. Each day presents an opportunity to overthink things. Uncoupling from the notion of perfection is key. Emotional Sobriety is something we strive towards, a North Star that we’ll never fully reach. The practice is a constant unfolding, which we hone our entire lives.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s2">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Patrick dig into their rocky pre-recovery days, charting the evolution their consciousnesses have taken. While encountering challenges, keep it simple. Each day presents an opportunity to overthink things. Uncoupling from the notion of perfection is key. Emotional Sobriety is something we strive towards, a North Star that we’ll never fully reach. The practice is a constant unfolding, which we hone our entire lives.
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Practice Makes Practice]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>89</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom and Patrick dig into their rocky pre-recovery days, charting the evolution their consciousnesses have taken.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> While encountering challenges, k</span>eep it simple. Each day presents an opportunity to overthink things. Uncoupling from the notion of perfection is key. Emotional Sobriety is something we strive towards, a North Star that we’ll never fully reach. The practice is a constant unfolding, which we hone our entire lives.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s2">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Patrick dig into their rocky pre-recovery days, charting the evolution their consciousnesses have taken. While encountering challenges, keep it simple. Each day presents an opportunity to overthink things. Uncoupling from the notion of perfection is key. Emotional Sobriety is something we strive towards, a North Star that we’ll never fully reach. The practice is a constant unfolding, which we hone our entire lives.
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:31:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Philosophy over Psychology with Tom Potash]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Thom welcome longtime contributor to the Emotional Sobriety community Tom Potash to talk about his decades-long recovery journey, the letting go that sports fandom can require, and a more philosophy-based conception of the process of relying less on environmental support and more on self-support.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2">Please subscribe to Tom Potash’s channel, where his workshops and 12 Step studies can be found: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@12steptom46/"><span class="s1">https://www.youtube.com/@12steptom46/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">The Emotional Sobriety Study Area details can be found here: <a href="https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety/"><span class="s1">https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen and Thom welcome longtime contributor to the Emotional Sobriety community Tom Potash to talk about his decades-long recovery journey, the letting go that sports fandom can require, and a more philosophy-based conception of the process of relying less on environmental support and more on self-support.
 
Please subscribe to Tom Potash’s channel, where his workshops and 12 Step studies can be found: https://www.youtube.com/@12steptom46/
The Emotional Sobriety Study Area details can be found here: https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety/
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Philosophy over Psychology with Tom Potash]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Thom welcome longtime contributor to the Emotional Sobriety community Tom Potash to talk about his decades-long recovery journey, the letting go that sports fandom can require, and a more philosophy-based conception of the process of relying less on environmental support and more on self-support.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p2">Please subscribe to Tom Potash’s channel, where his workshops and 12 Step studies can be found: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@12steptom46/"><span class="s1">https://www.youtube.com/@12steptom46/</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">The Emotional Sobriety Study Area details can be found here: <a href="https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety/"><span class="s1">https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety/</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Thom welcome longtime contributor to the Emotional Sobriety community Tom Potash to talk about his decades-long recovery journey, the letting go that sports fandom can require, and a more philosophy-based conception of the process of relying less on environmental support and more on self-support.
 
Please subscribe to Tom Potash’s channel, where his workshops and 12 Step studies can be found: https://www.youtube.com/@12steptom46/
The Emotional Sobriety Study Area details can be found here: https://4dphd.com/emotional-sobriety/
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:34</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[A Spiritual Path Through Emotional Sobriety]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Recovery stalwart Richard Warner had to announce himself as a newcomer after decades in the program, a formative experience that he’s grateful for today. With Thom and Allen he walks us through his journey from the depths of addiction to the daily striving for greater Emotional Sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s2">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery stalwart Richard Warner had to announce himself as a newcomer after decades in the program, a formative experience that he’s grateful for today. With Thom and Allen he walks us through his journey from the depths of addiction to the daily striving for greater Emotional Sobriety.
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[A Spiritual Path Through Emotional Sobriety]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>87</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Recovery stalwart Richard Warner had to announce himself as a newcomer after decades in the program, a formative experience that he’s grateful for today. With Thom and Allen he walks us through his journey from the depths of addiction to the daily striving for greater Emotional Sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s2">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery stalwart Richard Warner had to announce himself as a newcomer after decades in the program, a formative experience that he’s grateful for today. With Thom and Allen he walks us through his journey from the depths of addiction to the daily striving for greater Emotional Sobriety.
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:27</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Living Consciously with Roger Andes]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2023 07:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Roger Andes discusses his body-oriented work as a therapist, cultivating connections with others and within himself revolving around the preservation of integrity. Being deeply connected to others while also being connected to ourselves need not be goals that cut against each other. Almost always, there is a path to both.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Roger Andes discusses his body-oriented work as a therapist, cultivating connections with others and within himself revolving around the preservation of integrity. Being deeply connected to others while also being connected to ourselves need not be goals that cut against each other. Almost always, there is a path to both.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Living Consciously with Roger Andes]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>86</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Roger Andes discusses his body-oriented work as a therapist, cultivating connections with others and within himself revolving around the preservation of integrity. Being deeply connected to others while also being connected to ourselves need not be goals that cut against each other. Almost always, there is a path to both.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Roger Andes discusses his body-oriented work as a therapist, cultivating connections with others and within himself revolving around the preservation of integrity. Being deeply connected to others while also being connected to ourselves need not be goals that cut against each other. Almost always, there is a path to both.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:52:10</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Meditating on the New Year with Herb Kaighan]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2022 05:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Longtime collaborator, first-time guest Herb K. joins us to discuss the role of meditation in his daily practice, and how being in alignment with reality is foundational in our evolution towards emotional sobriety. Allen, Thom, and Patrick check in about their greatest lessons and challenges in 2022, looking ahead to the promise of a new year.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thank you for being with us through these episodes. More will be revealed.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Herb K.’s book, “Practicing the Here and Now”:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Here-Now-Intentional-Meditation/dp/1616496746">https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Here-Now-Intentional-Meditation/dp/1616496746</a></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">More on Herb K. at his website:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://herbk.com/">https://herbk.com/</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="..."></a></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Longtime collaborator, first-time guest Herb K. joins us to discuss the role of meditation in his daily practice, and how being in alignment with reality is foundational in our evolution towards emotional sobriety. Allen, Thom, and Patrick check in about their greatest lessons and challenges in 2022, looking ahead to the promise of a new year.
 
Thank you for being with us through these episodes. More will be revealed.
 
Herb K.’s book, “Practicing the Here and Now”:
https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Here-Now-Intentional-Meditation/dp/1616496746
 
More on Herb K. at his website:
https://herbk.com/ 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at ]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Meditating on the New Year with Herb Kaighan]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>85</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Longtime collaborator, first-time guest Herb K. joins us to discuss the role of meditation in his daily practice, and how being in alignment with reality is foundational in our evolution towards emotional sobriety. Allen, Thom, and Patrick check in about their greatest lessons and challenges in 2022, looking ahead to the promise of a new year.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Thank you for being with us through these episodes. More will be revealed.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Herb K.’s book, “Practicing the Here and Now”:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Here-Now-Intentional-Meditation/dp/1616496746">https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Here-Now-Intentional-Meditation/dp/1616496746</a></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">More on Herb K. at his website:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://herbk.com/">https://herbk.com/</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Longtime collaborator, first-time guest Herb K. joins us to discuss the role of meditation in his daily practice, and how being in alignment with reality is foundational in our evolution towards emotional sobriety. Allen, Thom, and Patrick check in about their greatest lessons and challenges in 2022, looking ahead to the promise of a new year.
 
Thank you for being with us through these episodes. More will be revealed.
 
Herb K.’s book, “Practicing the Here and Now”:
https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Here-Now-Intentional-Meditation/dp/1616496746
 
More on Herb K. at his website:
https://herbk.com/ 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at ]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[More Will Be Revealed with Joe C.]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">This week we share our thoughts on receiving &amp; offering guidance to other addicts across a wide span of experience as we navigate the recovery highway. Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs returns to the show to weigh in. </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This week we share our thoughts on receiving & offering guidance to other addicts across a wide span of experience as we navigate the recovery highway. Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs returns to the show to weigh in. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[More Will Be Revealed with Joe C.]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>84</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">This week we share our thoughts on receiving &amp; offering guidance to other addicts across a wide span of experience as we navigate the recovery highway. Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs returns to the show to weigh in. </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This week we share our thoughts on receiving & offering guidance to other addicts across a wide span of experience as we navigate the recovery highway. Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs returns to the show to weigh in. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:47:48</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Higher and Friendly Powers with Dr. Peg O’Connor]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 05:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Peg joins us to talk about her more secular conception of a Higher Power, informed by her background in philosophy and the life and work of William James. While working the steps and doing the fearless and thorough moral inventory, she explains how Hume’s list of virtues can come into play. As we redefine our approach to self-esteem in recovery, we can think of it as “knowing how to belong to ourselves.” In this work she strives alongside her students to cultivate an expanded sense of human decency and moral ideals.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More on Peg O’Connor and her book <em>Higher and Friendly Powers: Transforming Addiction and Suffering</em>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://pegoconnorauthor.com/">https://pegoconnorauthor.com/</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Peg joins us to talk about her more secular conception of a Higher Power, informed by her background in philosophy and the life and work of William James. While working the steps and doing the fearless and thorough moral inventory, she explains how Hume’s list of virtues can come into play. As we redefine our approach to self-esteem in recovery, we can think of it as “knowing how to belong to ourselves.” In this work she strives alongside her students to cultivate an expanded sense of human decency and moral ideals.
 
More on Peg O’Connor and her book Higher and Friendly Powers: Transforming Addiction and Suffering:
https://pegoconnorauthor.com/ 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Higher and Friendly Powers with Dr. Peg O’Connor]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>83</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Peg joins us to talk about her more secular conception of a Higher Power, informed by her background in philosophy and the life and work of William James. While working the steps and doing the fearless and thorough moral inventory, she explains how Hume’s list of virtues can come into play. As we redefine our approach to self-esteem in recovery, we can think of it as “knowing how to belong to ourselves.” In this work she strives alongside her students to cultivate an expanded sense of human decency and moral ideals.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More on Peg O’Connor and her book <em>Higher and Friendly Powers: Transforming Addiction and Suffering</em>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://pegoconnorauthor.com/">https://pegoconnorauthor.com/</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Peg joins us to talk about her more secular conception of a Higher Power, informed by her background in philosophy and the life and work of William James. While working the steps and doing the fearless and thorough moral inventory, she explains how Hume’s list of virtues can come into play. As we redefine our approach to self-esteem in recovery, we can think of it as “knowing how to belong to ourselves.” In this work she strives alongside her students to cultivate an expanded sense of human decency and moral ideals.
 
More on Peg O’Connor and her book Higher and Friendly Powers: Transforming Addiction and Suffering:
https://pegoconnorauthor.com/ 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:55:40</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Our Inner Civil War]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">If you’re disturbed about something, we encourage investigating what’s beneath that disturbance. This episode we explore the psychological mechanism called projection, and what it can teach us about ourselves as we try to live our lives more meaningfully and effectively.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[If you’re disturbed about something, we encourage investigating what’s beneath that disturbance. This episode we explore the psychological mechanism called projection, and what it can teach us about ourselves as we try to live our lives more meaningfully and effectively.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Our Inner Civil War]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">If you’re disturbed about something, we encourage investigating what’s beneath that disturbance. This episode we explore the psychological mechanism called projection, and what it can teach us about ourselves as we try to live our lives more meaningfully and effectively.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[If you’re disturbed about something, we encourage investigating what’s beneath that disturbance. This episode we explore the psychological mechanism called projection, and what it can teach us about ourselves as we try to live our lives more meaningfully and effectively.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Importance (and Difficulty!) of Our Daily Practice]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2022 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>With the serenity prayer, we try to figure out the things in our lives that we have the power to change. Here, Thom and Patrick mull the discipline that it takes to be in a practice of emotional sobriety.</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[With the serenity prayer, we try to figure out the things in our lives that we have the power to change. Here, Thom and Patrick mull the discipline that it takes to be in a practice of emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Importance (and Difficulty!) of Our Daily Practice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>With the serenity prayer, we try to figure out the things in our lives that we have the power to change. Here, Thom and Patrick mull the discipline that it takes to be in a practice of emotional sobriety.</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[With the serenity prayer, we try to figure out the things in our lives that we have the power to change. Here, Thom and Patrick mull the discipline that it takes to be in a practice of emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:34:13</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thanksgiving Survival Guide]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>In preparation for the forthcoming high calorie sit-downs many of us are having with friends and family this week, Allen and Patrick run down a list of the twelve most common things that mess up the holidays. First we’ll identify the mistakes, then we’ll discuss some strategies of avoiding them. As with so many other issues on the podcast, a lot of this comes down to managing expectations.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Here’s a PDF to download the list in full:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p953Gq-UApWN08i7mo0Q5zC6everDFKi/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p953Gq-UApWN08i7mo0Q5zC6everDFKi/view?usp=sharing</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In preparation for the forthcoming high calorie sit-downs many of us are having with friends and family this week, Allen and Patrick run down a list of the twelve most common things that mess up the holidays. First we’ll identify the mistakes, then we’ll discuss some strategies of avoiding them. As with so many other issues on the podcast, a lot of this comes down to managing expectations. 
 
Here’s a PDF to download the list in full:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p953Gq-UApWN08i7mo0Q5zC6everDFKi/view?usp=sharing 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thanksgiving Survival Guide]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>80</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>In preparation for the forthcoming high calorie sit-downs many of us are having with friends and family this week, Allen and Patrick run down a list of the twelve most common things that mess up the holidays. First we’ll identify the mistakes, then we’ll discuss some strategies of avoiding them. As with so many other issues on the podcast, a lot of this comes down to managing expectations.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Here’s a PDF to download the list in full:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p953Gq-UApWN08i7mo0Q5zC6everDFKi/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p953Gq-UApWN08i7mo0Q5zC6everDFKi/view?usp=sharing</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In preparation for the forthcoming high calorie sit-downs many of us are having with friends and family this week, Allen and Patrick run down a list of the twelve most common things that mess up the holidays. First we’ll identify the mistakes, then we’ll discuss some strategies of avoiding them. As with so many other issues on the podcast, a lot of this comes down to managing expectations. 
 
Here’s a PDF to download the list in full:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p953Gq-UApWN08i7mo0Q5zC6everDFKi/view?usp=sharing 
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:35:08</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Holidays: Come As You Are]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2022 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen’s big Italian dinners. Thom getting kicked by a horse. Patrick learning what to do with his hands, now that he’s no longer getting loaded. There’s a lot to unpack when it comes to our expectations for ourselves and others surrounding the holidays. Today we discuss how we might be more present for our loved ones in the days ahead, or how to cope when we can’t find that Hallmark enjoyment around the table. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2">Read Thom's piece "<strong>The Rules of Self-Care Apply to the Holidays Too</strong>," <a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_c8f8b44df1814cddbbe64767c7fe296e.pdf">https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_c8f8b44df1814cddbbe64767c7fe296e.pdf</a>  </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen’s big Italian dinners. Thom getting kicked by a horse. Patrick learning what to do with his hands, now that he’s no longer getting loaded. There’s a lot to unpack when it comes to our expectations for ourselves and others surrounding the holidays. Today we discuss how we might be more present for our loved ones in the days ahead, or how to cope when we can’t find that Hallmark enjoyment around the table.  
Read Thom's piece "The Rules of Self-Care Apply to the Holidays Too," https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_c8f8b44df1814cddbbe64767c7fe296e.pdf  
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The Holidays: Come As You Are]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>79</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen’s big Italian dinners. Thom getting kicked by a horse. Patrick learning what to do with his hands, now that he’s no longer getting loaded. There’s a lot to unpack when it comes to our expectations for ourselves and others surrounding the holidays. Today we discuss how we might be more present for our loved ones in the days ahead, or how to cope when we can’t find that Hallmark enjoyment around the table. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2">Read Thom's piece "<strong>The Rules of Self-Care Apply to the Holidays Too</strong>," <a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_c8f8b44df1814cddbbe64767c7fe296e.pdf">https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_c8f8b44df1814cddbbe64767c7fe296e.pdf</a>  </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen’s big Italian dinners. Thom getting kicked by a horse. Patrick learning what to do with his hands, now that he’s no longer getting loaded. There’s a lot to unpack when it comes to our expectations for ourselves and others surrounding the holidays. Today we discuss how we might be more present for our loved ones in the days ahead, or how to cope when we can’t find that Hallmark enjoyment around the table.  
Read Thom's piece "The Rules of Self-Care Apply to the Holidays Too," https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_c8f8b44df1814cddbbe64767c7fe296e.pdf  
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:26</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Between Wisdom & Discipline]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2022 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">At a certain point (or maybe various points) along the recovery way, we each develop an awareness of what we might call our own inner wisdom, but rather than make proper use of this amazing resource, we have a tendency to continue searching for answers outside of ourselves. Even before recovery, despite passages of stumbling through dysfunctional lives, we gain wisdom. Cultivating discipline is how we can put that wisdom to work for us.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[At a certain point (or maybe various points) along the recovery way, we each develop an awareness of what we might call our own inner wisdom, but rather than make proper use of this amazing resource, we have a tendency to continue searching for answers outside of ourselves. Even before recovery, despite passages of stumbling through dysfunctional lives, we gain wisdom. Cultivating discipline is how we can put that wisdom to work for us.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Between Wisdom & Discipline]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>78</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">At a certain point (or maybe various points) along the recovery way, we each develop an awareness of what we might call our own inner wisdom, but rather than make proper use of this amazing resource, we have a tendency to continue searching for answers outside of ourselves. Even before recovery, despite passages of stumbling through dysfunctional lives, we gain wisdom. Cultivating discipline is how we can put that wisdom to work for us.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[At a certain point (or maybe various points) along the recovery way, we each develop an awareness of what we might call our own inner wisdom, but rather than make proper use of this amazing resource, we have a tendency to continue searching for answers outside of ourselves. Even before recovery, despite passages of stumbling through dysfunctional lives, we gain wisdom. Cultivating discipline is how we can put that wisdom to work for us.
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:51:27</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom & Allen at the ICSAA]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen tells us about his formative years enlisting in the marines, Vietnam, alcohol and drugs. Thom of early struggles working as a counselor at an addiction treatment center and drinking off the clock. Both eventually found grace and recovery and now try to pay it forward. At the International Conference of Secular AA, we look at Bill Wilson’s letter through a magnifying glass. If the 12 Steps are practiced in our daily lives, Wilson suggests that we and those about us begin to find emotional sobriety. The transcendence of environmental support to self-support (Fritz Perls). The program is a “people grower.” It unshackles us, allowing us to become what we can be. Within this framework we learn that our addiction wasn’t pathological, we just got stuck on our way someplace else. Emotional Sobriety is a consciousness of freedom. On our way towards it, we “unhook” people from our dependency.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">More information about the event at:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreci...</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen tells us about his formative years enlisting in the marines, Vietnam, alcohol and drugs. Thom of early struggles working as a counselor at an addiction treatment center and drinking off the clock. Both eventually found grace and recovery and now try to pay it forward. At the International Conference of Secular AA, we look at Bill Wilson’s letter through a magnifying glass. If the 12 Steps are practiced in our daily lives, Wilson suggests that we and those about us begin to find emotional sobriety. The transcendence of environmental support to self-support (Fritz Perls). The program is a “people grower.” It unshackles us, allowing us to become what we can be. Within this framework we learn that our addiction wasn’t pathological, we just got stuck on our way someplace else. Emotional Sobriety is a consciousness of freedom. On our way towards it, we “unhook” people from our dependency.
 
More information about the event at:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreci...]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Thom & Allen at the ICSAA]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>77</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen tells us about his formative years enlisting in the marines, Vietnam, alcohol and drugs. Thom of early struggles working as a counselor at an addiction treatment center and drinking off the clock. Both eventually found grace and recovery and now try to pay it forward. At the International Conference of Secular AA, we look at Bill Wilson’s letter through a magnifying glass. If the 12 Steps are practiced in our daily lives, Wilson suggests that we and those about us begin to find emotional sobriety. The transcendence of environmental support to self-support (Fritz Perls). The program is a “people grower.” It unshackles us, allowing us to become what we can be. Within this framework we learn that our addiction wasn’t pathological, we just got stuck on our way someplace else. Emotional Sobriety is a consciousness of freedom. On our way towards it, we “unhook” people from our dependency.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">More information about the event at:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at <a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3">pndirective4@gmail.com</span></a> for any questions or comments.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen tells us about his formative years enlisting in the marines, Vietnam, alcohol and drugs. Thom of early struggles working as a counselor at an addiction treatment center and drinking off the clock. Both eventually found grace and recovery and now try to pay it forward. At the International Conference of Secular AA, we look at Bill Wilson’s letter through a magnifying glass. If the 12 Steps are practiced in our daily lives, Wilson suggests that we and those about us begin to find emotional sobriety. The transcendence of environmental support to self-support (Fritz Perls). The program is a “people grower.” It unshackles us, allowing us to become what we can be. Within this framework we learn that our addiction wasn’t pathological, we just got stuck on our way someplace else. Emotional Sobriety is a consciousness of freedom. On our way towards it, we “unhook” people from our dependency.
 
More information about the event at:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreci...]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:18:52</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Making the Most of Fellowship & Support]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2022 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Let's return to fundamental questions of what Emotional Sobriety is, and why we consider it the “next frontier." How do we build support systems, and how do we maintain them? How do we stay connected without losing ourselves? This is where notions of differentiation come in. It’s important not to idealize the group, but take what works and leave the rest.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join us next week for our “live” episode at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th @ 10:30am PST. <span class="s1">Here’s how to login on Zoom:</span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Meeting ID: 879 9275 7142</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Passcode: 121212</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More information on the event at:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Later that day we will post the episode in the usual place for any who are unable to attend (:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s4">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s3"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer...</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Let's return to fundamental questions of what Emotional Sobriety is, and why we consider it the “next frontier." How do we build support systems, and how do we maintain them? How do we stay connected without losing ourselves? This is where notions of differentiation come in. It’s important not to idealize the group, but take what works and leave the rest.
 
Join us next week for our “live” episode at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th @ 10:30am PST. Here’s how to login on Zoom:
 
Meeting ID: 879 9275 7142
Passcode: 121212
 
More information on the event at:
aasecular.org
 
Later that day we will post the episode in the usual place for any who are unable to attend (:
 
Follow us on social media.
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer...]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Making the Most of Fellowship & Support]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>76</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Let's return to fundamental questions of what Emotional Sobriety is, and why we consider it the “next frontier." How do we build support systems, and how do we maintain them? How do we stay connected without losing ourselves? This is where notions of differentiation come in. It’s important not to idealize the group, but take what works and leave the rest.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join us next week for our “live” episode at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th @ 10:30am PST. <span class="s1">Here’s how to login on Zoom:</span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Meeting ID: 879 9275 7142</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Passcode: 121212</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More information on the event at:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Later that day we will post the episode in the usual place for any who are unable to attend (:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s4">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s3"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Let's return to fundamental questions of what Emotional Sobriety is, and why we consider it the “next frontier." How do we build support systems, and how do we maintain them? How do we stay connected without losing ourselves? This is where notions of differentiation come in. It’s important not to idealize the group, but take what works and leave the rest.
 
Join us next week for our “live” episode at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th @ 10:30am PST. Here’s how to login on Zoom:
 
Meeting ID: 879 9275 7142
Passcode: 121212
 
More information on the event at:
aasecular.org
 
Later that day we will post the episode in the usual place for any who are unable to attend (:
 
Follow us on social media.
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer...]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:37:44</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What Progress Am I Making?]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2022 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">How can we measure our progress (or lack there of) in productive ways? Learning to separate from self-condemnation &amp; create/embrace health self-critique. Includes learning to give ourselves credit where credit is due, to build on successes &amp; to forgive our fuck-ups without letting ourselves off the hook. Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs joins Thom and Allen this week.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[How can we measure our progress (or lack there of) in productive ways? Learning to separate from self-condemnation & create/embrace health self-critique. Includes learning to give ourselves credit where credit is due, to build on successes & to forgive our fuck-ups without letting ourselves off the hook. Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs joins Thom and Allen this week.
 
Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What Progress Am I Making?]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">How can we measure our progress (or lack there of) in productive ways? Learning to separate from self-condemnation &amp; create/embrace health self-critique. Includes learning to give ourselves credit where credit is due, to build on successes &amp; to forgive our fuck-ups without letting ourselves off the hook. Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs joins Thom and Allen this week.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[How can we measure our progress (or lack there of) in productive ways? Learning to separate from self-condemnation & create/embrace health self-critique. Includes learning to give ourselves credit where credit is due, to build on successes & to forgive our fuck-ups without letting ourselves off the hook. Joe C. from Rebellion Dogs joins Thom and Allen this week.
 
Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs 
Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Room for All]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2022 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Let’s exercise more authority and agency over our lives. Moving towards a focus on being rather than having.</p>
<p class="p1">A bit of Buddhist wisdom: Be careful to not mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself.</p>
<p class="p2">A bit of Emotional Sobriety wisdom: Emotional sobriety are two words pointing towards the moon.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">The philosophy, concepts and methodologies associated with Emotional Sobriety are tools prescribed for those of us who want to improve ourselves. It is a way forward, a way to explore ourselves more deeply, a way to evaluate our progress and a way to continue making progress.</p>
<p class="p1">What is not prescribed is who each of us is and what each of us wants. Never let someone else define those for you. The practice of emotional sobriety within a community is a collaborative and creative process.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">It is back to the basics of the program: we can do this together, none of us can do it alone.</p>
<p class="p1">YOUR EMOTIONAL SOBRIETY BELONGS TO YOU.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Do more. Stress less with <strong>Magic Mind</strong>. Each shot contains a magical combination of 12 active ingredients designed to stimulate focus, creativity, energy, and motivation while decreasing stress, oxidation, and decreases post-exercise inflammation in the body. Try Magic Mind at <a href="https://magicmind.co"><span class="s1">https://magicmind.co</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span></p>
<p class="p1">Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s3">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s1">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https...</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Let’s exercise more authority and agency over our lives. Moving towards a focus on being rather than having.
A bit of Buddhist wisdom: Be careful to not mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself.
A bit of Emotional Sobriety wisdom: Emotional sobriety are two words pointing towards the moon. 
The philosophy, concepts and methodologies associated with Emotional Sobriety are tools prescribed for those of us who want to improve ourselves. It is a way forward, a way to explore ourselves more deeply, a way to evaluate our progress and a way to continue making progress.
What is not prescribed is who each of us is and what each of us wants. Never let someone else define those for you. The practice of emotional sobriety within a community is a collaborative and creative process. 
It is back to the basics of the program: we can do this together, none of us can do it alone.
YOUR EMOTIONAL SOBRIETY BELONGS TO YOU. 
 
Do more. Stress less with Magic Mind. Each shot contains a magical combination of 12 active ingredients designed to stimulate focus, creativity, energy, and motivation while decreasing stress, oxidation, and decreases post-exercise inflammation in the body. Try Magic Mind at https://magicmind.co 
  
Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Room for All]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Let’s exercise more authority and agency over our lives. Moving towards a focus on being rather than having.</p>
<p class="p1">A bit of Buddhist wisdom: Be careful to not mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself.</p>
<p class="p2">A bit of Emotional Sobriety wisdom: Emotional sobriety are two words pointing towards the moon.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">The philosophy, concepts and methodologies associated with Emotional Sobriety are tools prescribed for those of us who want to improve ourselves. It is a way forward, a way to explore ourselves more deeply, a way to evaluate our progress and a way to continue making progress.</p>
<p class="p1">What is not prescribed is who each of us is and what each of us wants. Never let someone else define those for you. The practice of emotional sobriety within a community is a collaborative and creative process.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">It is back to the basics of the program: we can do this together, none of us can do it alone.</p>
<p class="p1">YOUR EMOTIONAL SOBRIETY BELONGS TO YOU.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Do more. Stress less with <strong>Magic Mind</strong>. Each shot contains a magical combination of 12 active ingredients designed to stimulate focus, creativity, energy, and motivation while decreasing stress, oxidation, and decreases post-exercise inflammation in the body. Try Magic Mind at <a href="https://magicmind.co"><span class="s1">https://magicmind.co</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span></p>
<p class="p1">Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s3">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s1">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s2"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s1"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Let’s exercise more authority and agency over our lives. Moving towards a focus on being rather than having.
A bit of Buddhist wisdom: Be careful to not mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself.
A bit of Emotional Sobriety wisdom: Emotional sobriety are two words pointing towards the moon. 
The philosophy, concepts and methodologies associated with Emotional Sobriety are tools prescribed for those of us who want to improve ourselves. It is a way forward, a way to explore ourselves more deeply, a way to evaluate our progress and a way to continue making progress.
What is not prescribed is who each of us is and what each of us wants. Never let someone else define those for you. The practice of emotional sobriety within a community is a collaborative and creative process. 
It is back to the basics of the program: we can do this together, none of us can do it alone.
YOUR EMOTIONAL SOBRIETY BELONGS TO YOU. 
 
Do more. Stress less with Magic Mind. Each shot contains a magical combination of 12 active ingredients designed to stimulate focus, creativity, energy, and motivation while decreasing stress, oxidation, and decreases post-exercise inflammation in the body. Try Magic Mind at https://magicmind.co 
  
Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
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                    <![CDATA[Living in the Moment]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2022 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Let’s talk about how essential the practice of living in the moment is to the condition we call emotional sobriety. AND about how radical living in the moment can actually be.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Let’s talk about how essential the practice of living in the moment is to the condition we call emotional sobriety. AND about how radical living in the moment can actually be. 
 
Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Living in the Moment]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Let’s talk about how essential the practice of living in the moment is to the condition we call emotional sobriety. AND about how radical living in the moment can actually be.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Let’s talk about how essential the practice of living in the moment is to the condition we call emotional sobriety. AND about how radical living in the moment can actually be. 
 
Join us for our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A New Self-Esteem]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2022 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Defining a self-esteem based on humility and an appropriate estimation of ourselves, our successes and failures. Cultivating this newfound sense of self is essential to coming into closer alignment with reality. Allen closes with some suggestions for exercises we can do to get the ball rolling on clearer appraisals of ourselves that could lead us towards change.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Defining a self-esteem based on humility and an appropriate estimation of ourselves, our successes and failures. Cultivating this newfound sense of self is essential to coming into closer alignment with reality. Allen closes with some suggestions for exercises we can do to get the ball rolling on clearer appraisals of ourselves that could lead us towards change.
 
Learn more about our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A New Self-Esteem]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>72</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Defining a self-esteem based on humility and an appropriate estimation of ourselves, our successes and failures. Cultivating this newfound sense of self is essential to coming into closer alignment with reality. Allen closes with some suggestions for exercises we can do to get the ball rolling on clearer appraisals of ourselves that could lead us towards change.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Defining a self-esteem based on humility and an appropriate estimation of ourselves, our successes and failures. Cultivating this newfound sense of self is essential to coming into closer alignment with reality. Allen closes with some suggestions for exercises we can do to get the ball rolling on clearer appraisals of ourselves that could lead us towards change.
 
Learn more about our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:40:09</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Secular Recovery with Joe C.]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2022 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Author and podcast host Joe C. of Rebellion Dogs Publishing joins Allen and Thom to discuss a “yes, and” rather than “no, but,” maximally inclusive approach to recovery.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C. and listen to his show, Rebellion Dogs:</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p5"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p5"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p5"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Author and podcast host Joe C. of Rebellion Dogs Publishing joins Allen and Thom to discuss a “yes, and” rather than “no, but,” maximally inclusive approach to recovery.
 
Learn more about Joe C. and listen to his show, Rebellion Dogs:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/ 
 
Learn more about our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Secular Recovery with Joe C.]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>71</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Author and podcast host Joe C. of Rebellion Dogs Publishing joins Allen and Thom to discuss a “yes, and” rather than “no, but,” maximally inclusive approach to recovery.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Joe C. and listen to his show, Rebellion Dogs:</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">Learn more about our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://aasecular.org">aasecular.org</a></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p5"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p5"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p5"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Author and podcast host Joe C. of Rebellion Dogs Publishing joins Allen and Thom to discuss a “yes, and” rather than “no, but,” maximally inclusive approach to recovery.
 
Learn more about Joe C. and listen to his show, Rebellion Dogs:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/ 
 
Learn more about our upcoming live show at the International Conference of Secular AA, on October 29th:
aasecular.org
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:53:35</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Managing Anxiety with Gina Ryan]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2022 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">We’re joined this week by Gina Ryan, who in her work with clients and on her weekly podcast imparts some of her vision for how to live with anxiety, bring its level down and develop greater self-compassion. Gina’s pursuits as an anxiety coach and Thom and Allen’s as therapists and practitioners of emotional sobriety are often one and the same.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Gina Ryan and her podcast on the Anxiety Coaches website.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.theanxietycoachespodcast.com">https://www.theanxietycoachespodcast.com</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[We’re joined this week by Gina Ryan, who in her work with clients and on her weekly podcast imparts some of her vision for how to live with anxiety, bring its level down and develop greater self-compassion. Gina’s pursuits as an anxiety coach and Thom and Allen’s as therapists and practitioners of emotional sobriety are often one and the same.
 
Learn more about Gina Ryan and her podcast on the Anxiety Coaches website.
https://www.theanxietycoachespodcast.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Managing Anxiety with Gina Ryan]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>70</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">We’re joined this week by Gina Ryan, who in her work with clients and on her weekly podcast imparts some of her vision for how to live with anxiety, bring its level down and develop greater self-compassion. Gina’s pursuits as an anxiety coach and Thom and Allen’s as therapists and practitioners of emotional sobriety are often one and the same.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Learn more about Gina Ryan and her podcast on the Anxiety Coaches website.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.theanxietycoachespodcast.com">https://www.theanxietycoachespodcast.com</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com"><span class="s3">abphd@msn.com</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[We’re joined this week by Gina Ryan, who in her work with clients and on her weekly podcast imparts some of her vision for how to live with anxiety, bring its level down and develop greater self-compassion. Gina’s pursuits as an anxiety coach and Thom and Allen’s as therapists and practitioners of emotional sobriety are often one and the same.
 
Learn more about Gina Ryan and her podcast on the Anxiety Coaches website.
https://www.theanxietycoachespodcast.com 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:54:06</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety at Work]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2022 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/emotional-sobriety-at-work</guid>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">In observance of Labor Day, let’s talk about how to keep our emotional center of gravity in an environment that taxes us constantly. Whether it’s financial stress, caustic co-workers, or abusive bosses, the dynamic remains: the problem itself is less important than our reaction to it. If we can keep the ball in our court when navigating these issues, doors will begin opening for us left and right.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[In observance of Labor Day, let’s talk about how to keep our emotional center of gravity in an environment that taxes us constantly. Whether it’s financial stress, caustic co-workers, or abusive bosses, the dynamic remains: the problem itself is less important than our reaction to it. If we can keep the ball in our court when navigating these issues, doors will begin opening for us left and right.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety at Work]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>69</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">In observance of Labor Day, let’s talk about how to keep our emotional center of gravity in an environment that taxes us constantly. Whether it’s financial stress, caustic co-workers, or abusive bosses, the dynamic remains: the problem itself is less important than our reaction to it. If we can keep the ball in our court when navigating these issues, doors will begin opening for us left and right.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In observance of Labor Day, let’s talk about how to keep our emotional center of gravity in an environment that taxes us constantly. Whether it’s financial stress, caustic co-workers, or abusive bosses, the dynamic remains: the problem itself is less important than our reaction to it. If we can keep the ball in our court when navigating these issues, doors will begin opening for us left and right.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:37:41</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What Love Is]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2022 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Thom reunite after some time off for labor and travel. Today we spend some time digging into intimacy and relationships, with a spotlight on Thom’s book, <em>What Love Is</em> which seems to have only become truer and more relevant in the years since its publication. Next week for Labor Day, we'll discuss emotional sobriety in the workplace so stay tuned!.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">You can find a copy of <em>What Love Is</em> on Amazon here:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1542697344/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_752FWQJP591BRPXWH1CZ">https://www.amazon.com/dp/1542697344/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_752FWQJP591BRPXWH1CZ</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The rest of Thom’s library is available here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books">https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Thom reunite after some time off for labor and travel. Today we spend some time digging into intimacy and relationships, with a spotlight on Thom’s book, What Love Is which seems to have only become truer and more relevant in the years since its publication. Next week for Labor Day, we'll discuss emotional sobriety in the workplace so stay tuned!.
 
You can find a copy of What Love Is on Amazon here:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1542697344/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_752FWQJP591BRPXWH1CZ 
 
The rest of Thom’s library is available here: 
https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What Love Is]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen and Thom reunite after some time off for labor and travel. Today we spend some time digging into intimacy and relationships, with a spotlight on Thom’s book, <em>What Love Is</em> which seems to have only become truer and more relevant in the years since its publication. Next week for Labor Day, we'll discuss emotional sobriety in the workplace so stay tuned!.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">You can find a copy of <em>What Love Is</em> on Amazon here:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1542697344/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_752FWQJP591BRPXWH1CZ">https://www.amazon.com/dp/1542697344/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_752FWQJP591BRPXWH1CZ</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The rest of Thom’s library is available here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books">https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen and Thom reunite after some time off for labor and travel. Today we spend some time digging into intimacy and relationships, with a spotlight on Thom’s book, What Love Is which seems to have only become truer and more relevant in the years since its publication. Next week for Labor Day, we'll discuss emotional sobriety in the workplace so stay tuned!.
 
You can find a copy of What Love Is on Amazon here:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1542697344/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_752FWQJP591BRPXWH1CZ 
 
The rest of Thom’s library is available here: 
https://www.thomrutledge.com/thom-s-books 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:39:41</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Neutralizing Fear]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/neutralizing-fear</guid>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">From relapses to climate catastrophes to dropping the ball at work, fears of both the immediate and existential varieties assert themselves in our daily lives at a constant clip. We can manage them and in some cases neutralize and overcome them completely with a greater dose of emotional sobriety. Thom Rutledge cites his own book <em>Embracing Fear</em> and digs into his own recent anxieties to shed some light on this topic.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[From relapses to climate catastrophes to dropping the ball at work, fears of both the immediate and existential varieties assert themselves in our daily lives at a constant clip. We can manage them and in some cases neutralize and overcome them completely with a greater dose of emotional sobriety. Thom Rutledge cites his own book Embracing Fear and digs into his own recent anxieties to shed some light on this topic.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Neutralizing Fear]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">From relapses to climate catastrophes to dropping the ball at work, fears of both the immediate and existential varieties assert themselves in our daily lives at a constant clip. We can manage them and in some cases neutralize and overcome them completely with a greater dose of emotional sobriety. Thom Rutledge cites his own book <em>Embracing Fear</em> and digs into his own recent anxieties to shed some light on this topic.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[From relapses to climate catastrophes to dropping the ball at work, fears of both the immediate and existential varieties assert themselves in our daily lives at a constant clip. We can manage them and in some cases neutralize and overcome them completely with a greater dose of emotional sobriety. Thom Rutledge cites his own book Embracing Fear and digs into his own recent anxieties to shed some light on this topic.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:16</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery 2.0 with Tommy Rosen]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2022 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen's conception of recovery as a consciousness of freedom meets Tommy's holistic recovery approach that doesn’t shy away from the 12 steps. Our guest touches on the effectiveness of yoga, the raging debate over a pharmacological approach to recovery, and especially the recent resurgent interest in psychedelics and “microdosing” in treating addiction. We must marshal as much "recovery capital" as possible to overcome daily challenges to our sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>Learn more about Tommy Rosen and Recovery 2.0 here:</strong></p>
<div><a href="https://r20.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://r20.com</a></div>
<div>Tommy Rosen Instagram: @tommyrosen</div>
<div>Tommy Rosen Facebook: <a class="gmail_plusreply"></a>@tommyrosenofficial</div>
<div>Recovery 2.0 Instagram: <a class="gmail_plusreply"></a>@recovery2point0</div>
<div>Recovery 2.0 Facebook: @Recovery2point0</div>
<div> </div>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen's conception of recovery as a consciousness of freedom meets Tommy's holistic recovery approach that doesn’t shy away from the 12 steps. Our guest touches on the effectiveness of yoga, the raging debate over a pharmacological approach to recovery, and especially the recent resurgent interest in psychedelics and “microdosing” in treating addiction. We must marshal as much "recovery capital" as possible to overcome daily challenges to our sobriety.
 
Learn more about Tommy Rosen and Recovery 2.0 here:
https://r20.com
Tommy Rosen Instagram: @tommyrosen
Tommy Rosen Facebook: @tommyrosenofficial
Recovery 2.0 Instagram: @recovery2point0
Recovery 2.0 Facebook: @Recovery2point0
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Recovery 2.0 with Tommy Rosen]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>66</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen's conception of recovery as a consciousness of freedom meets Tommy's holistic recovery approach that doesn’t shy away from the 12 steps. Our guest touches on the effectiveness of yoga, the raging debate over a pharmacological approach to recovery, and especially the recent resurgent interest in psychedelics and “microdosing” in treating addiction. We must marshal as much "recovery capital" as possible to overcome daily challenges to our sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>Learn more about Tommy Rosen and Recovery 2.0 here:</strong></p>
<div><a href="https://r20.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://r20.com</a></div>
<div>Tommy Rosen Instagram: @tommyrosen</div>
<div>Tommy Rosen Facebook: <a class="gmail_plusreply"></a>@tommyrosenofficial</div>
<div>Recovery 2.0 Instagram: <a class="gmail_plusreply"></a>@recovery2point0</div>
<div>Recovery 2.0 Facebook: @Recovery2point0</div>
<div> </div>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Allen's conception of recovery as a consciousness of freedom meets Tommy's holistic recovery approach that doesn’t shy away from the 12 steps. Our guest touches on the effectiveness of yoga, the raging debate over a pharmacological approach to recovery, and especially the recent resurgent interest in psychedelics and “microdosing” in treating addiction. We must marshal as much "recovery capital" as possible to overcome daily challenges to our sobriety.
 
Learn more about Tommy Rosen and Recovery 2.0 here:
https://r20.com
Tommy Rosen Instagram: @tommyrosen
Tommy Rosen Facebook: @tommyrosenofficial
Recovery 2.0 Instagram: @recovery2point0
Recovery 2.0 Facebook: @Recovery2point0
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:55:00</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Getting Disappointments to Work for Us]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">The pursuit of greater emotional sobriety can allow us to mobilize our disappointments to take action in our lives, rather than being demoralized and demolished by them. Thom, Allen, and Patrick discuss how. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[The pursuit of greater emotional sobriety can allow us to mobilize our disappointments to take action in our lives, rather than being demoralized and demolished by them. Thom, Allen, and Patrick discuss how. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Getting Disappointments to Work for Us]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>65</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">The pursuit of greater emotional sobriety can allow us to mobilize our disappointments to take action in our lives, rather than being demoralized and demolished by them. Thom, Allen, and Patrick discuss how. </p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The pursuit of greater emotional sobriety can allow us to mobilize our disappointments to take action in our lives, rather than being demoralized and demolished by them. Thom, Allen, and Patrick discuss how. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:24:06</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Overcoming Disappointments]]>
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                <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2022 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">How we react to the disappointments we face in our relationships, in ourselves, and our politics is at the heart of emotional sobriety, because of how they come crashing into our unreasonable expectations and unenforceable rules. This week we focus on the process of investigating those disappointments to understand what they’re doing to us and how. Next week we’ll discuss how to mobilize them to act on our own behalf.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[How we react to the disappointments we face in our relationships, in ourselves, and our politics is at the heart of emotional sobriety, because of how they come crashing into our unreasonable expectations and unenforceable rules. This week we focus on the process of investigating those disappointments to understand what they’re doing to us and how. Next week we’ll discuss how to mobilize them to act on our own behalf. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Overcoming Disappointments]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>64</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">How we react to the disappointments we face in our relationships, in ourselves, and our politics is at the heart of emotional sobriety, because of how they come crashing into our unreasonable expectations and unenforceable rules. This week we focus on the process of investigating those disappointments to understand what they’re doing to us and how. Next week we’ll discuss how to mobilize them to act on our own behalf.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[How we react to the disappointments we face in our relationships, in ourselves, and our politics is at the heart of emotional sobriety, because of how they come crashing into our unreasonable expectations and unenforceable rules. This week we focus on the process of investigating those disappointments to understand what they’re doing to us and how. Next week we’ll discuss how to mobilize them to act on our own behalf. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:44:02</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Integrating Role Models]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>From parents to found families to George Washington, Thom and Allen delve into lessons learned from various mentors throughout their lives to discuss how emotional sobriety comes into play as we try to follow our role models' examples.</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p2">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p2"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p2">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p2">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[From parents to found families to George Washington, Thom and Allen delve into lessons learned from various mentors throughout their lives to discuss how emotional sobriety comes into play as we try to follow our role models' examples.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Integrating Role Models]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>63</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>From parents to found families to George Washington, Thom and Allen delve into lessons learned from various mentors throughout their lives to discuss how emotional sobriety comes into play as we try to follow our role models' examples.</strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p2">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p2"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p2">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p2">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[From parents to found families to George Washington, Thom and Allen delve into lessons learned from various mentors throughout their lives to discuss how emotional sobriety comes into play as we try to follow our role models' examples.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Nihilism and Perfectionism are "Kissing Cousins"]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2022 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">We cannot deal with the suffocation of our interrelated nihilism and perfectionism without confronting our self-hate. Allen brings in the work of Dr. Karen Horn to expand on this notion. Humans are “part animal, part god,” and resolving that dissonance is the crux of emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for “<strong>Face to Face with Perfectionism</strong>,” a 3-hour Zoom workshop with Thom Rutledge &amp; Brian Lutz.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">SATURDAY • JULY 16, 2022 10:00 AM – 1:00 PM PST</p>
<p class="p1">Email thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com w/ “IMPROV” in subject line to register, tix are $125.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndir...</strong></span></a></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We cannot deal with the suffocation of our interrelated nihilism and perfectionism without confronting our self-hate. Allen brings in the work of Dr. Karen Horn to expand on this notion. Humans are “part animal, part god,” and resolving that dissonance is the crux of emotional sobriety.
 
Register for “Face to Face with Perfectionism,” a 3-hour Zoom workshop with Thom Rutledge & Brian Lutz. 
SATURDAY • JULY 16, 2022 10:00 AM – 1:00 PM PST
Email thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com w/ “IMPROV” in subject line to register, tix are $125.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndir...]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Nihilism and Perfectionism are "Kissing Cousins"]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>62</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">We cannot deal with the suffocation of our interrelated nihilism and perfectionism without confronting our self-hate. Allen brings in the work of Dr. Karen Horn to expand on this notion. Humans are “part animal, part god,” and resolving that dissonance is the crux of emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for “<strong>Face to Face with Perfectionism</strong>,” a 3-hour Zoom workshop with Thom Rutledge &amp; Brian Lutz.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="p1">SATURDAY • JULY 16, 2022 10:00 AM – 1:00 PM PST</p>
<p class="p1">Email thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com w/ “IMPROV” in subject line to register, tix are $125.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a><span class="s1"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We cannot deal with the suffocation of our interrelated nihilism and perfectionism without confronting our self-hate. Allen brings in the work of Dr. Karen Horn to expand on this notion. Humans are “part animal, part god,” and resolving that dissonance is the crux of emotional sobriety.
 
Register for “Face to Face with Perfectionism,” a 3-hour Zoom workshop with Thom Rutledge & Brian Lutz. 
SATURDAY • JULY 16, 2022 10:00 AM – 1:00 PM PST
Email thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com w/ “IMPROV” in subject line to register, tix are $125.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndir...]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:47:23</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Defeating Nihilism]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2022 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">With the savage political climate bearing down on Patrick and the weight of alcoholism and various other -isms contributing to a prevalent pessimistic chorus many of us endure daily, Allen and Thom dissect what it means to have nihilism and how we can push back against it. One major antidote is greater emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[With the savage political climate bearing down on Patrick and the weight of alcoholism and various other -isms contributing to a prevalent pessimistic chorus many of us endure daily, Allen and Thom dissect what it means to have nihilism and how we can push back against it. One major antidote is greater emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Defeating Nihilism]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>61</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">With the savage political climate bearing down on Patrick and the weight of alcoholism and various other -isms contributing to a prevalent pessimistic chorus many of us endure daily, Allen and Thom dissect what it means to have nihilism and how we can push back against it. One major antidote is greater emotional sobriety.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[With the savage political climate bearing down on Patrick and the weight of alcoholism and various other -isms contributing to a prevalent pessimistic chorus many of us endure daily, Allen and Thom dissect what it means to have nihilism and how we can push back against it. One major antidote is greater emotional sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:47:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Finding Inner Peace]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick reflect on their first time meeting in person since the show’s inception.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com">abphd@msn.com</a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick reflect on their first time meeting in person since the show’s inception.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Finding Inner Peace]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>60</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Allen, Thom, and Patrick reflect on their first time meeting in person since the show’s inception.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: <a href="mailto:abphd@msn.com">abphd@msn.com</a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom, and Patrick reflect on their first time meeting in person since the show’s inception.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Bonding with Dad]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2022 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Today we observe the ways we can practice these principles to accept our differences with our parents, find richer connections with them, or deal with the distress that arises when we’re in conflict.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Today we observe the ways we can practice these principles to accept our differences with our parents, find richer connections with them, or deal with the distress that arises when we’re in conflict.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Bonding with Dad]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Today we observe the ways we can practice these principles to accept our differences with our parents, find richer connections with them, or deal with the distress that arises when we’re in conflict.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Today we observe the ways we can practice these principles to accept our differences with our parents, find richer connections with them, or deal with the distress that arises when we’re in conflict.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:34:40</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Adding Self to Intimate Relationships]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2022 04:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">How do we handle disruptions in our closest relationships with this new mentality of emotional balance and greater “differentiation?” With Patrick as this week’s guinea pig, Allen and Thom workshop some practical solutions to “convey rather than convince” in touchy conversations with our significant others.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[How do we handle disruptions in our closest relationships with this new mentality of emotional balance and greater “differentiation?” With Patrick as this week’s guinea pig, Allen and Thom workshop some practical solutions to “convey rather than convince” in touchy conversations with our significant others.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Adding Self to Intimate Relationships]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>58</itunes:episode>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">How do we handle disruptions in our closest relationships with this new mentality of emotional balance and greater “differentiation?” With Patrick as this week’s guinea pig, Allen and Thom workshop some practical solutions to “convey rather than convince” in touchy conversations with our significant others.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[How do we handle disruptions in our closest relationships with this new mentality of emotional balance and greater “differentiation?” With Patrick as this week’s guinea pig, Allen and Thom workshop some practical solutions to “convey rather than convince” in touchy conversations with our significant others.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:38:34</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Love vs. Dependency]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 02:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Having recently returned from his brother’s funeral, Thom reflects on the role Emotional Sobriety has played in his personal growth after a 23 year separation from his family. We also wrap up our earlier conversation about marriage and relationships - “people growers” that test our capacity to be “self governing” rather than unhealthily dependent on our partners.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming Emotional Sobriety workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Having recently returned from his brother’s funeral, Thom reflects on the role Emotional Sobriety has played in his personal growth after a 23 year separation from his family. We also wrap up our earlier conversation about marriage and relationships - “people growers” that test our capacity to be “self governing” rather than unhealthily dependent on our partners.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming Emotional Sobriety workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Love vs. Dependency]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>57</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Having recently returned from his brother’s funeral, Thom reflects on the role Emotional Sobriety has played in his personal growth after a 23 year separation from his family. We also wrap up our earlier conversation about marriage and relationships - “people growers” that test our capacity to be “self governing” rather than unhealthily dependent on our partners.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming Emotional Sobriety workshop: <strong>The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Sunday, June 26th 2022.</p>
<p class="p1">10am-5pm</p>
<p class="p1">$75 to attend.</p>
<p class="p1">For additional details,</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="http://harmonyhollowfarm.com">harmonyhollowfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Having recently returned from his brother’s funeral, Thom reflects on the role Emotional Sobriety has played in his personal growth after a 23 year separation from his family. We also wrap up our earlier conversation about marriage and relationships - “people growers” that test our capacity to be “self governing” rather than unhealthily dependent on our partners.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Register for Allen and Thom’s upcoming Emotional Sobriety workshop: The Path to Inner Peace and Emotional Freedom
Sunday, June 26th 2022.
10am-5pm
$75 to attend.
For additional details,
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
harmonyhollowfarm.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:36:48</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Milestones in Early Recovery ]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">On this Memorial Day producer Patrick, coming up on his fourth year of continuous sobriety, chats with Allen about the role his relationships, step work, and service to others has played in his return from the depths of addiction. Moving away from an “I’m okay if” to an “I’m okay EVEN if” mentality is a recovery battle very much still being waged.</p>
<p class="p2">PRODUCER'S NOTE: This is a new recording and edit of an episode concept we published last week. We thought we could do better this time around, and I think we were right! -- PN</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[On this Memorial Day producer Patrick, coming up on his fourth year of continuous sobriety, chats with Allen about the role his relationships, step work, and service to others has played in his return from the depths of addiction. Moving away from an “I’m okay if” to an “I’m okay EVEN if” mentality is a recovery battle very much still being waged.
PRODUCER'S NOTE: This is a new recording and edit of an episode concept we published last week. We thought we could do better this time around, and I think we were right! -- PN
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Milestones in Early Recovery ]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">On this Memorial Day producer Patrick, coming up on his fourth year of continuous sobriety, chats with Allen about the role his relationships, step work, and service to others has played in his return from the depths of addiction. Moving away from an “I’m okay if” to an “I’m okay EVEN if” mentality is a recovery battle very much still being waged.</p>
<p class="p2">PRODUCER'S NOTE: This is a new recording and edit of an episode concept we published last week. We thought we could do better this time around, and I think we were right! -- PN</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[On this Memorial Day producer Patrick, coming up on his fourth year of continuous sobriety, chats with Allen about the role his relationships, step work, and service to others has played in his return from the depths of addiction. Moving away from an “I’m okay if” to an “I’m okay EVEN if” mentality is a recovery battle very much still being waged.
PRODUCER'S NOTE: This is a new recording and edit of an episode concept we published last week. We thought we could do better this time around, and I think we were right! -- PN
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:37:44</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Grief and Flexibility]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Following the sudden passing of Thom’s older brother Mike, we discuss the grief and reflection that accompanies tragedy through an emotionally sober lens.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Following the sudden passing of Thom’s older brother Mike, we discuss the grief and reflection that accompanies tragedy through an emotionally sober lens.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Grief and Flexibility]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Following the sudden passing of Thom’s older brother Mike, we discuss the grief and reflection that accompanies tragedy through an emotionally sober lens.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Following the sudden passing of Thom’s older brother Mike, we discuss the grief and reflection that accompanies tragedy through an emotionally sober lens.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:53:05</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Mother's Day]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/mother39s-day-8</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">This holiday we observe cooperating rather than compromising with our loved ones in gift giving and receiving. For those with good or bad experiences with their moms. No matter what you’ve suffered, depending on how you work with it, you can start to integrate that experience and grow from it.</p>
<p class="p2">Join us for Thom and Allen's in-person Emotional Sobriety workshop this June 26th at Harmony Hollow in PA! Details to follow.</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This holiday we observe cooperating rather than compromising with our loved ones in gift giving and receiving. For those with good or bad experiences with their moms. No matter what you’ve suffered, depending on how you work with it, you can start to integrate that experience and grow from it.
Join us for Thom and Allen's in-person Emotional Sobriety workshop this June 26th at Harmony Hollow in PA! Details to follow.
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Mother's Day]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">This holiday we observe cooperating rather than compromising with our loved ones in gift giving and receiving. For those with good or bad experiences with their moms. No matter what you’ve suffered, depending on how you work with it, you can start to integrate that experience and grow from it.</p>
<p class="p2">Join us for Thom and Allen's in-person Emotional Sobriety workshop this June 26th at Harmony Hollow in PA! Details to follow.</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[This holiday we observe cooperating rather than compromising with our loved ones in gift giving and receiving. For those with good or bad experiences with their moms. No matter what you’ve suffered, depending on how you work with it, you can start to integrate that experience and grow from it.
Join us for Thom and Allen's in-person Emotional Sobriety workshop this June 26th at Harmony Hollow in PA! Details to follow.
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:55:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Navigating Marriage (Part One)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2022 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/navigating-marriage-part-one</guid>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">“The truth will set you free, but only if you have the courage to live it.”</p>
<p class="p1">After a check-in about upcoming workshops and events, Allen digs deep into his own history and chats with Thom about his first marriage, and the touchstones it helped him reach. Next week we'll continue to discuss marriage and relationships in the context of Emotional Sobriety.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">To register for his upcoming INTRApersonal workshop, shoot him a message here with "IMPROV" in the subject line (:</p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[“The truth will set you free, but only if you have the courage to live it.”
After a check-in about upcoming workshops and events, Allen digs deep into his own history and chats with Thom about his first marriage, and the touchstones it helped him reach. Next week we'll continue to discuss marriage and relationships in the context of Emotional Sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
To register for his upcoming INTRApersonal workshop, shoot him a message here with "IMPROV" in the subject line (:
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Navigating Marriage (Part One)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">“The truth will set you free, but only if you have the courage to live it.”</p>
<p class="p1">After a check-in about upcoming workshops and events, Allen digs deep into his own history and chats with Thom about his first marriage, and the touchstones it helped him reach. Next week we'll continue to discuss marriage and relationships in the context of Emotional Sobriety.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">To register for his upcoming INTRApersonal workshop, shoot him a message here with "IMPROV" in the subject line (:</p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p2"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[“The truth will set you free, but only if you have the courage to live it.”
After a check-in about upcoming workshops and events, Allen digs deep into his own history and chats with Thom about his first marriage, and the touchstones it helped him reach. Next week we'll continue to discuss marriage and relationships in the context of Emotional Sobriety.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
To register for his upcoming INTRApersonal workshop, shoot him a message here with "IMPROV" in the subject line (:
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:58:28</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Showing Up for Ourselves]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2022 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/showing-up-for-ourselves</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Allen returns along with therapist Brian Lutz to expand on our chat with Thom last week about recovery and Gestalt therapy. To overcome obstacles in our journey towards greater emotional balance, we need to “name it to tame it” - articulating what those obstacles are to find the proper solution. </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen returns along with therapist Brian Lutz to expand on our chat with Thom last week about recovery and Gestalt therapy. To overcome obstacles in our journey towards greater emotional balance, we need to “name it to tame it” - articulating what those obstacles are to find the proper solution. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Showing Up for Ourselves]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Allen returns along with therapist Brian Lutz to expand on our chat with Thom last week about recovery and Gestalt therapy. To overcome obstacles in our journey towards greater emotional balance, we need to “name it to tame it” - articulating what those obstacles are to find the proper solution. </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Allen’s first book, <strong>Love Secrets Revealed</strong>, referred to in the episode:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&amp;qid=1650843975&amp;sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                </content:encoded>
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                        type="audio/mpeg">
                    </enclosure>
                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Allen returns along with therapist Brian Lutz to expand on our chat with Thom last week about recovery and Gestalt therapy. To overcome obstacles in our journey towards greater emotional balance, we need to “name it to tame it” - articulating what those obstacles are to find the proper solution. 
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s first book, Love Secrets Revealed, referred to in the episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secrets-Revealed-Intimacy-Connection/dp/0757303978/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=love+secrets+revealed+allen+berger&qid=1650843975&sprefix=love+secrets+reve%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:47:46</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Therapeutic Improv with Brian Lutz]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2022 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/therapeutic-improv-with-brian-lutz</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Psychotherapist, Brian Lutz, joins Thom and Producer Patrick for a discussion about our INTRApersonal worlds. In discussing the ideas behind Brian's and Thom's upcoming workshop, INTRApersonal IMPROV, the two of them share a demonstration of therapeutic improvisation. </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>Our podcast has been selected as one of the </em><span class="s1"><strong><em>Top 70 Sobriety Podcasts</em></strong></span><em> on the web from Feedspot - the internet’s Largest Human Curated Database of Bloggers and Podcasters! Visit here…</em></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/">https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s4">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s5">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s5"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Psychotherapist, Brian Lutz, joins Thom and Producer Patrick for a discussion about our INTRApersonal worlds. In discussing the ideas behind Brian's and Thom's upcoming workshop, INTRApersonal IMPROV, the two of them share a demonstration of therapeutic improvisation. 
 
Our podcast has been selected as one of the Top 70 Sobriety Podcasts on the web from Feedspot - the internet’s Largest Human Curated Database of Bloggers and Podcasters! Visit here…
https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Therapeutic Improv with Brian Lutz]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Psychotherapist, Brian Lutz, joins Thom and Producer Patrick for a discussion about our INTRApersonal worlds. In discussing the ideas behind Brian's and Thom's upcoming workshop, INTRApersonal IMPROV, the two of them share a demonstration of therapeutic improvisation. </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>Our podcast has been selected as one of the </em><span class="s1"><strong><em>Top 70 Sobriety Podcasts</em></strong></span><em> on the web from Feedspot - the internet’s Largest Human Curated Database of Bloggers and Podcasters! Visit here…</em></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/">https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s4">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s5">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s5"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/5eff6780ce3379-03844818/25529/312b573d-0121-4760-ab65-334c3ab45cbb/Emotional-Sobriety-Episode-48-Compressed.mp3" length="111178665"
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                    </enclosure>
                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Psychotherapist, Brian Lutz, joins Thom and Producer Patrick for a discussion about our INTRApersonal worlds. In discussing the ideas behind Brian's and Thom's upcoming workshop, INTRApersonal IMPROV, the two of them share a demonstration of therapeutic improvisation. 
 
Our podcast has been selected as one of the Top 70 Sobriety Podcasts on the web from Feedspot - the internet’s Largest Human Curated Database of Bloggers and Podcasters! Visit here…
https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:52</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Conflict Resolution: Taking Emotional Sobriety into Traffic]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/conflict-resolution-taking-emotional-sobriety-into-traffic</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/conflict-resolution-taking-emotional-sobriety-into-traffic</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Producer Patrick Newman and Thom Rutledge have a conversation about having conversations --- specifically about having difficult conversations in new improved ways with our recovery experience.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Links from the episode:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Simple Truth: Ideas &amp; Experiences for People from Less than Perfect Families.</strong> Thom's first book includes chapter titled "Conversations to Convey." Only available from Thom's office: </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_85cf03584ede448198af4a84c5dfac7c.pdf">https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_85cf03584ede448198af4a84c5dfac7c.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Communication 101 &amp; Couples Dialogue:</strong> a handout with communication tips that Thom uses with clients in therapy. </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_609a60c3db0a4a3ebe33c1bdbdb01698.pdf">https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_609a60c3db0a4a3ebe33c1bdbdb01698.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><strong>What Love Is: Reflections on the True Meaning &amp; Authentic Practice of Genuine Love</strong>  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/What-Love-Reflections-Authentic-Practice/dp/1542697344/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/What-Love-Reflections-Authentic-Practice/dp/1542697344/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Russell Brand’s <strong>How To Deal With Conflict:</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://youtu.be/NwJPSnBATM4">https://youtu.be/NwJPSnBATM4</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>Our podcast has been selected as one of the </em><span class="s1"><strong><em>Top 70 Sobriety Podcasts</em></strong></span><em> on the web from Feedspot - the internet’s Largest Human Curated Database of Bloggers and Podcasters! Visit here…</em></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/">https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s4">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s5">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, p...</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer Patrick Newman and Thom Rutledge have a conversation about having conversations --- specifically about having difficult conversations in new improved ways with our recovery experience.
 
Links from the episode:
 
Simple Truth: Ideas & Experiences for People from Less than Perfect Families. Thom's first book includes chapter titled "Conversations to Convey." Only available from Thom's office: 
https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_85cf03584ede448198af4a84c5dfac7c.pdf
 
Communication 101 & Couples Dialogue: a handout with communication tips that Thom uses with clients in therapy. 
https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_609a60c3db0a4a3ebe33c1bdbdb01698.pdf
 
What Love Is: Reflections on the True Meaning & Authentic Practice of Genuine Love  https://www.amazon.com/What-Love-Reflections-Authentic-Practice/dp/1542697344/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
 
Russell Brand’s How To Deal With Conflict:
https://youtu.be/NwJPSnBATM4
 
Our podcast has been selected as one of the Top 70 Sobriety Podcasts on the web from Feedspot - the internet’s Largest Human Curated Database of Bloggers and Podcasters! Visit here…
https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, p...]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Conflict Resolution: Taking Emotional Sobriety into Traffic]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Producer Patrick Newman and Thom Rutledge have a conversation about having conversations --- specifically about having difficult conversations in new improved ways with our recovery experience.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Links from the episode:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Simple Truth: Ideas &amp; Experiences for People from Less than Perfect Families.</strong> Thom's first book includes chapter titled "Conversations to Convey." Only available from Thom's office: </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_85cf03584ede448198af4a84c5dfac7c.pdf">https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_85cf03584ede448198af4a84c5dfac7c.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Communication 101 &amp; Couples Dialogue:</strong> a handout with communication tips that Thom uses with clients in therapy. </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_609a60c3db0a4a3ebe33c1bdbdb01698.pdf">https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_609a60c3db0a4a3ebe33c1bdbdb01698.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2"><strong>What Love Is: Reflections on the True Meaning &amp; Authentic Practice of Genuine Love</strong>  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/What-Love-Reflections-Authentic-Practice/dp/1542697344/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/What-Love-Reflections-Authentic-Practice/dp/1542697344/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Russell Brand’s <strong>How To Deal With Conflict:</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://youtu.be/NwJPSnBATM4">https://youtu.be/NwJPSnBATM4</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><em>Our podcast has been selected as one of the </em><span class="s1"><strong><em>Top 70 Sobriety Podcasts</em></strong></span><em> on the web from Feedspot - the internet’s Largest Human Curated Database of Bloggers and Podcasters! Visit here…</em></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/">https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s4">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s5">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s5"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Producer Patrick Newman and Thom Rutledge have a conversation about having conversations --- specifically about having difficult conversations in new improved ways with our recovery experience.
 
Links from the episode:
 
Simple Truth: Ideas & Experiences for People from Less than Perfect Families. Thom's first book includes chapter titled "Conversations to Convey." Only available from Thom's office: 
https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_85cf03584ede448198af4a84c5dfac7c.pdf
 
Communication 101 & Couples Dialogue: a handout with communication tips that Thom uses with clients in therapy. 
https://www.thomrutledge.com/_files/ugd/e71801_609a60c3db0a4a3ebe33c1bdbdb01698.pdf
 
What Love Is: Reflections on the True Meaning & Authentic Practice of Genuine Love  https://www.amazon.com/What-Love-Reflections-Authentic-Practice/dp/1542697344/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
 
Russell Brand’s How To Deal With Conflict:
https://youtu.be/NwJPSnBATM4
 
Our podcast has been selected as one of the Top 70 Sobriety Podcasts on the web from Feedspot - the internet’s Largest Human Curated Database of Bloggers and Podcasters! Visit here…
https://blog.feedspot.com/sobriety_podcasts/
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, p...]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:46:12</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Practical Solutions to Challenging Perfectionism]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2022 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">To try and push back against our self-defeating perfectionist urges, we see that voice as a distinct part of our consciousness, not “the one in charge.” Projecting a more positive vision of ourselves. Trusting the process. Managing expectations more effectively. Being more compassionate.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[To try and push back against our self-defeating perfectionist urges, we see that voice as a distinct part of our consciousness, not “the one in charge.” Projecting a more positive vision of ourselves. Trusting the process. Managing expectations more effectively. Being more compassionate.
 
Follow us on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Practical Solutions to Challenging Perfectionism]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">To try and push back against our self-defeating perfectionist urges, we see that voice as a distinct part of our consciousness, not “the one in charge.” Projecting a more positive vision of ourselves. Trusting the process. Managing expectations more effectively. Being more compassionate.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[To try and push back against our self-defeating perfectionist urges, we see that voice as a distinct part of our consciousness, not “the one in charge.” Projecting a more positive vision of ourselves. Trusting the process. Managing expectations more effectively. Being more compassionate.
 
Follow us on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:28:45</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-Five: Perfectionism is a Destructive Belief System]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2022 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">For many of us, defeating our crushing sense of perfectionism is the crux of our struggle towards living a more peaceful, emotionally balanced life. In the course of discussing this, Allen talks about his dear departed friend and colleague Chris. Next week we’ll delve into further practical solutions.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For many of us, defeating our crushing sense of perfectionism is the crux of our struggle towards living a more peaceful, emotionally balanced life. In the course of discussing this, Allen talks about his dear departed friend and colleague Chris. Next week we’ll delve into further practical solutions.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-Five: Perfectionism is a Destructive Belief System]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">For many of us, defeating our crushing sense of perfectionism is the crux of our struggle towards living a more peaceful, emotionally balanced life. In the course of discussing this, Allen talks about his dear departed friend and colleague Chris. Next week we’ll delve into further practical solutions.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For many of us, defeating our crushing sense of perfectionism is the crux of our struggle towards living a more peaceful, emotionally balanced life. In the course of discussing this, Allen talks about his dear departed friend and colleague Chris. Next week we’ll delve into further practical solutions.
 
Follow us on social media.
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-Four: Emotional Sobriety as Philosophy (Part Two)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom shares further thoughts on psychology and philosophy, which Allen relates to existentialism. All have a useful context in our journey towards greater emotional freedom. Next week, we do a deep dive on perfectionism.</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Thom’s essay:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Psychology is the study of how our minds work. Philosophy pans back for a much bigger picture, an expansive view that inspires us to wonder how the whole universe works. Philosophy is often more about developing good questions, not so much so to discover the RIGHT answers, but just questions that are good company, questions that are magnetic in that they attract information, ideas, thought, even other questions.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">For me in the 1990’s I became aware of self-indulgence in recovery. In myself, my community and my clients. Were we just learning to take care of ourselves for its own sake? I became aware of the arrogance of my own recovery. I was better than my family, I was better than the families of my friends and of my clients. I had become a fundamentalist. I had become what I despised the most from my most religious friends. I was right, others were wrong, not subjectively but objectively. Clearly I was missing something.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">So the question showed up: WHY are we recovering? Is it really for its own sake? I had an idea that I liked better: that we are all component parts of a much greater whole – that we were healing, repairing, rehabbing our way back to rejoin (or join for the first time) the whole. Not so that we could FEEL better but so that we can BE better. So that we can become better people. More self-sufficient, sure, but also better at letting our guards down, being vulnerable, better at connecting and collaborating with others. A balance of giving and receiving seemed like a good idea.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Especially fond of that place of the BIG CONNECTION, the place called Humility. Where we are neither better nor worse than one another. Where we are individuals but also part of the whole.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Looking at all of this through the lens of Emotional Sobriety, and specifically during this time in our world’s history, I can see how each of our individual recovery paths can become models for a bigger recovery --- a recovery in ALL CAPS, maybe.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The human condition is in pain, in distress. The collective human experience is confused, lost, drunk, addicted, obsessed, selfish, narrow minded. The collective human experience does what we have all done as individual component parts: it over-simplifies what is extremely complex and it makes what should be simple complicated to a point of contamination.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The human experience, as we individually have done (and still do), is missing more than a few points.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">There is room within this way of looking at ourselves individually and the human experience as a whole, for any number of individual belief systems. To consider this perspective does not require than we renounce other beliefs. And what I am describing is not intended to become one of those belief systems. Instead, this is my work-in-progress attempt to depict a broad enough, yet specific enough problem definition so that we can work together to support one another’s individual recovery practices and just maybe contribute to the ALL CAPS RECOVERY.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>-Thom Rutledge /<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>www.thomrutledge.com</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom...</span></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom shares further thoughts on psychology and philosophy, which Allen relates to existentialism. All have a useful context in our journey towards greater emotional freedom. Next week, we do a deep dive on perfectionism.
Thom’s essay:
Psychology is the study of how our minds work. Philosophy pans back for a much bigger picture, an expansive view that inspires us to wonder how the whole universe works. Philosophy is often more about developing good questions, not so much so to discover the RIGHT answers, but just questions that are good company, questions that are magnetic in that they attract information, ideas, thought, even other questions.
 
For me in the 1990’s I became aware of self-indulgence in recovery. In myself, my community and my clients. Were we just learning to take care of ourselves for its own sake? I became aware of the arrogance of my own recovery. I was better than my family, I was better than the families of my friends and of my clients. I had become a fundamentalist. I had become what I despised the most from my most religious friends. I was right, others were wrong, not subjectively but objectively. Clearly I was missing something.
 
So the question showed up: WHY are we recovering? Is it really for its own sake? I had an idea that I liked better: that we are all component parts of a much greater whole – that we were healing, repairing, rehabbing our way back to rejoin (or join for the first time) the whole. Not so that we could FEEL better but so that we can BE better. So that we can become better people. More self-sufficient, sure, but also better at letting our guards down, being vulnerable, better at connecting and collaborating with others. A balance of giving and receiving seemed like a good idea.
 
Especially fond of that place of the BIG CONNECTION, the place called Humility. Where we are neither better nor worse than one another. Where we are individuals but also part of the whole.
 
Looking at all of this through the lens of Emotional Sobriety, and specifically during this time in our world’s history, I can see how each of our individual recovery paths can become models for a bigger recovery --- a recovery in ALL CAPS, maybe.
 
The human condition is in pain, in distress. The collective human experience is confused, lost, drunk, addicted, obsessed, selfish, narrow minded. The collective human experience does what we have all done as individual component parts: it over-simplifies what is extremely complex and it makes what should be simple complicated to a point of contamination.
 
The human experience, as we individually have done (and still do), is missing more than a few points.
 
There is room within this way of looking at ourselves individually and the human experience as a whole, for any number of individual belief systems. To consider this perspective does not require than we renounce other beliefs. And what I am describing is not intended to become one of those belief systems. Instead, this is my work-in-progress attempt to depict a broad enough, yet specific enough problem definition so that we can work together to support one another’s individual recovery practices and just maybe contribute to the ALL CAPS RECOVERY.
 
-Thom Rutledge /  www.thomrutledge.com
 
Follow us on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-Four: Emotional Sobriety as Philosophy (Part Two)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Thom shares further thoughts on psychology and philosophy, which Allen relates to existentialism. All have a useful context in our journey towards greater emotional freedom. Next week, we do a deep dive on perfectionism.</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Thom’s essay:</strong></p>
<p class="p1">Psychology is the study of how our minds work. Philosophy pans back for a much bigger picture, an expansive view that inspires us to wonder how the whole universe works. Philosophy is often more about developing good questions, not so much so to discover the RIGHT answers, but just questions that are good company, questions that are magnetic in that they attract information, ideas, thought, even other questions.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">For me in the 1990’s I became aware of self-indulgence in recovery. In myself, my community and my clients. Were we just learning to take care of ourselves for its own sake? I became aware of the arrogance of my own recovery. I was better than my family, I was better than the families of my friends and of my clients. I had become a fundamentalist. I had become what I despised the most from my most religious friends. I was right, others were wrong, not subjectively but objectively. Clearly I was missing something.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">So the question showed up: WHY are we recovering? Is it really for its own sake? I had an idea that I liked better: that we are all component parts of a much greater whole – that we were healing, repairing, rehabbing our way back to rejoin (or join for the first time) the whole. Not so that we could FEEL better but so that we can BE better. So that we can become better people. More self-sufficient, sure, but also better at letting our guards down, being vulnerable, better at connecting and collaborating with others. A balance of giving and receiving seemed like a good idea.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Especially fond of that place of the BIG CONNECTION, the place called Humility. Where we are neither better nor worse than one another. Where we are individuals but also part of the whole.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Looking at all of this through the lens of Emotional Sobriety, and specifically during this time in our world’s history, I can see how each of our individual recovery paths can become models for a bigger recovery --- a recovery in ALL CAPS, maybe.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The human condition is in pain, in distress. The collective human experience is confused, lost, drunk, addicted, obsessed, selfish, narrow minded. The collective human experience does what we have all done as individual component parts: it over-simplifies what is extremely complex and it makes what should be simple complicated to a point of contamination.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The human experience, as we individually have done (and still do), is missing more than a few points.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">There is room within this way of looking at ourselves individually and the human experience as a whole, for any number of individual belief systems. To consider this perspective does not require than we renounce other beliefs. And what I am describing is not intended to become one of those belief systems. Instead, this is my work-in-progress attempt to depict a broad enough, yet specific enough problem definition so that we can work together to support one another’s individual recovery practices and just maybe contribute to the ALL CAPS RECOVERY.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>-Thom Rutledge /<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>www.thomrutledge.com</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom shares further thoughts on psychology and philosophy, which Allen relates to existentialism. All have a useful context in our journey towards greater emotional freedom. Next week, we do a deep dive on perfectionism.
Thom’s essay:
Psychology is the study of how our minds work. Philosophy pans back for a much bigger picture, an expansive view that inspires us to wonder how the whole universe works. Philosophy is often more about developing good questions, not so much so to discover the RIGHT answers, but just questions that are good company, questions that are magnetic in that they attract information, ideas, thought, even other questions.
 
For me in the 1990’s I became aware of self-indulgence in recovery. In myself, my community and my clients. Were we just learning to take care of ourselves for its own sake? I became aware of the arrogance of my own recovery. I was better than my family, I was better than the families of my friends and of my clients. I had become a fundamentalist. I had become what I despised the most from my most religious friends. I was right, others were wrong, not subjectively but objectively. Clearly I was missing something.
 
So the question showed up: WHY are we recovering? Is it really for its own sake? I had an idea that I liked better: that we are all component parts of a much greater whole – that we were healing, repairing, rehabbing our way back to rejoin (or join for the first time) the whole. Not so that we could FEEL better but so that we can BE better. So that we can become better people. More self-sufficient, sure, but also better at letting our guards down, being vulnerable, better at connecting and collaborating with others. A balance of giving and receiving seemed like a good idea.
 
Especially fond of that place of the BIG CONNECTION, the place called Humility. Where we are neither better nor worse than one another. Where we are individuals but also part of the whole.
 
Looking at all of this through the lens of Emotional Sobriety, and specifically during this time in our world’s history, I can see how each of our individual recovery paths can become models for a bigger recovery --- a recovery in ALL CAPS, maybe.
 
The human condition is in pain, in distress. The collective human experience is confused, lost, drunk, addicted, obsessed, selfish, narrow minded. The collective human experience does what we have all done as individual component parts: it over-simplifies what is extremely complex and it makes what should be simple complicated to a point of contamination.
 
The human experience, as we individually have done (and still do), is missing more than a few points.
 
There is room within this way of looking at ourselves individually and the human experience as a whole, for any number of individual belief systems. To consider this perspective does not require than we renounce other beliefs. And what I am describing is not intended to become one of those belief systems. Instead, this is my work-in-progress attempt to depict a broad enough, yet specific enough problem definition so that we can work together to support one another’s individual recovery practices and just maybe contribute to the ALL CAPS RECOVERY.
 
-Thom Rutledge /  www.thomrutledge.com
 
Follow us on social media!
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:23</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-Three: Emotional Sobriety as Philosophy (Part One)]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2022 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>The practice of emotional sobriety ultimately requires that we live in congruence with a personal value system. In order to do that, we must examine our personal values at the deepest level. Let’s talk with each other about what we know about what we believe - and what we each consider to be our personal growing edge.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The practice of emotional sobriety ultimately requires that we live in congruence with a personal value system. In order to do that, we must examine our personal values at the deepest level. Let’s talk with each other about what we know about what we believe - and what we each consider to be our personal growing edge.
 
Follow us on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-Three: Emotional Sobriety as Philosophy (Part One)]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>The practice of emotional sobriety ultimately requires that we live in congruence with a personal value system. In order to do that, we must examine our personal values at the deepest level. Let’s talk with each other about what we know about what we believe - and what we each consider to be our personal growing edge.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The practice of emotional sobriety ultimately requires that we live in congruence with a personal value system. In order to do that, we must examine our personal values at the deepest level. Let’s talk with each other about what we know about what we believe - and what we each consider to be our personal growing edge.
 
Follow us on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:38:25</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-Two: Summarizing “12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety”]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2022 02:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>This week Allen rejoins us to do a final wrap-up of his book, revisiting concepts of differentiation and equating emotional sobriety with emotional freedom.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This week Allen rejoins us to do a final wrap-up of his book, revisiting concepts of differentiation and equating emotional sobriety with emotional freedom.
 
Follow us on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-Two: Summarizing “12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety”]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>This week Allen rejoins us to do a final wrap-up of his book, revisiting concepts of differentiation and equating emotional sobriety with emotional freedom.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow us on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Email Thom: <a href="mailto:thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com"><span class="s3">thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Email Allen: abphd@msn.com</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This week Allen rejoins us to do a final wrap-up of his book, revisiting concepts of differentiation and equating emotional sobriety with emotional freedom.
 
Follow us on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Email Thom: thomrutledgeauthor@gmail.com
Email Allen: abphd@msn.com
 
Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below):
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:44:42</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-One: Busting Shame with Dr. Shawn Horn]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Thom has a wide-ranging discussion this week with shame busting psychologist, author, and TEDx speaker Dr. Shawn Horn. Revisiting the multiplicity of thought, the “should monster”, negative narcissism. Running the committee of our emotions like an efficient organization, and finding hope in the therapeutic process.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>About Shawn Horn PsyD:</strong></p>
<p dir="ltr">Dr. Shawn Horn is a licensed clinical psychologist, author, podcaster and TEDX speaker. In addition to her private practice, she serves as clinical supervisor with the University of Washington affiliated Psychiatric Residency Program in Spokane Washington. She is host for Inspired Living podcast and expert panelist for YouTube show “Uncovered: Stories of Overcoming Shame &amp; Struggle.” With over two decades of experience in the mental health field she is now bringing the wisdom of the therapy room to you with her online Inspired Living School where she helps students to heal from toxic shame and acquire skills for emotion regulation, resiliency and wholehearted living. For more information and to connect with Dr. Shawn go to:</p>
<p dir="ltr">Website:<a href="http://www.drshawnhorn.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> www.drshawnhorn.com</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Podcast:<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inspired-living/id1409283742" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inspired-living/id1409283742</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">IG:<a href="http://www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Facebook:<a href="http://www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">LinkedIn-<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-shawn-horn-2934347" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-shawn-horn-2934347</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">YouTube:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/drshawnhorn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.youtube.com/c/drshawnhorn</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">TIKTOK: @drshawnhorn  <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@drshawnhorn?lang=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.tiktok.com/@drshawnhorn?lang=en</a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow Emotional Sobriety on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p4"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p4"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p4"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emot...</em></strong></p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Thom has a wide-ranging discussion this week with shame busting psychologist, author, and TEDx speaker Dr. Shawn Horn. Revisiting the multiplicity of thought, the “should monster”, negative narcissism. Running the committee of our emotions like an efficient organization, and finding hope in the therapeutic process.
 
About Shawn Horn PsyD:
Dr. Shawn Horn is a licensed clinical psychologist, author, podcaster and TEDX speaker. In addition to her private practice, she serves as clinical supervisor with the University of Washington affiliated Psychiatric Residency Program in Spokane Washington. She is host for Inspired Living podcast and expert panelist for YouTube show “Uncovered: Stories of Overcoming Shame & Struggle.” With over two decades of experience in the mental health field she is now bringing the wisdom of the therapy room to you with her online Inspired Living School where she helps students to heal from toxic shame and acquire skills for emotion regulation, resiliency and wholehearted living. For more information and to connect with Dr. Shawn go to:
Website: www.drshawnhorn.com
Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inspired-living/id1409283742
IG: www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn
Facebook: www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn
LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-shawn-horn-2934347
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/drshawnhorn
TIKTOK: @drshawnhorn  https://www.tiktok.com/@drshawnhorn?lang=en
 
Follow Emotional Sobriety on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emot...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty-One: Busting Shame with Dr. Shawn Horn]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Thom has a wide-ranging discussion this week with shame busting psychologist, author, and TEDx speaker Dr. Shawn Horn. Revisiting the multiplicity of thought, the “should monster”, negative narcissism. Running the committee of our emotions like an efficient organization, and finding hope in the therapeutic process.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2"><strong>About Shawn Horn PsyD:</strong></p>
<p dir="ltr">Dr. Shawn Horn is a licensed clinical psychologist, author, podcaster and TEDX speaker. In addition to her private practice, she serves as clinical supervisor with the University of Washington affiliated Psychiatric Residency Program in Spokane Washington. She is host for Inspired Living podcast and expert panelist for YouTube show “Uncovered: Stories of Overcoming Shame &amp; Struggle.” With over two decades of experience in the mental health field she is now bringing the wisdom of the therapy room to you with her online Inspired Living School where she helps students to heal from toxic shame and acquire skills for emotion regulation, resiliency and wholehearted living. For more information and to connect with Dr. Shawn go to:</p>
<p dir="ltr">Website:<a href="http://www.drshawnhorn.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> www.drshawnhorn.com</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Podcast:<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inspired-living/id1409283742" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inspired-living/id1409283742</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">IG:<a href="http://www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Facebook:<a href="http://www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">LinkedIn-<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-shawn-horn-2934347" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-shawn-horn-2934347</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">YouTube:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/drshawnhorn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.youtube.com/c/drshawnhorn</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">TIKTOK: @drshawnhorn  <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@drshawnhorn?lang=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.tiktok.com/@drshawnhorn?lang=en</a></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Follow Emotional Sobriety on social media!</strong></p>
<p class="p4"><span class="s1">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Instagram: thomrutledge2</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p4"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p4"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p4"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Thom has a wide-ranging discussion this week with shame busting psychologist, author, and TEDx speaker Dr. Shawn Horn. Revisiting the multiplicity of thought, the “should monster”, negative narcissism. Running the committee of our emotions like an efficient organization, and finding hope in the therapeutic process.
 
About Shawn Horn PsyD:
Dr. Shawn Horn is a licensed clinical psychologist, author, podcaster and TEDX speaker. In addition to her private practice, she serves as clinical supervisor with the University of Washington affiliated Psychiatric Residency Program in Spokane Washington. She is host for Inspired Living podcast and expert panelist for YouTube show “Uncovered: Stories of Overcoming Shame & Struggle.” With over two decades of experience in the mental health field she is now bringing the wisdom of the therapy room to you with her online Inspired Living School where she helps students to heal from toxic shame and acquire skills for emotion regulation, resiliency and wholehearted living. For more information and to connect with Dr. Shawn go to:
Website: www.drshawnhorn.com
Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inspired-living/id1409283742
IG: www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn
Facebook: www.facebook.com/drshawnhorn
LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-shawn-horn-2934347
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/drshawnhorn
TIKTOK: @drshawnhorn  https://www.tiktok.com/@drshawnhorn?lang=en
 
Follow Emotional Sobriety on social media!
Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod
Instagram: thomrutledge2
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emot...]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:10</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty: Paddling Your Own Canoe]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2022 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Here we begin our discussion of the final chapter in Allen’s book, which uses the metaphor of navigating troubled waters in a canoe to explore the struggle for emotional stability. We attempt to synthesize it all in a sort of Emotional Sobriety Step 12.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy…</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow our new Twitter handle! <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Here we begin our discussion of the final chapter in Allen’s book, which uses the metaphor of navigating troubled waters in a canoe to explore the struggle for emotional stability. We attempt to synthesize it all in a sort of Emotional Sobriety Step 12.
 
For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy…
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10
 
Follow our new Twitter handle! @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Forty: Paddling Your Own Canoe]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Here we begin our discussion of the final chapter in Allen’s book, which uses the metaphor of navigating troubled waters in a canoe to explore the struggle for emotional stability. We attempt to synthesize it all in a sort of Emotional Sobriety Step 12.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy…</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow our new Twitter handle! <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Here we begin our discussion of the final chapter in Allen’s book, which uses the metaphor of navigating troubled waters in a canoe to explore the struggle for emotional stability. We attempt to synthesize it all in a sort of Emotional Sobriety Step 12.
 
For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy…
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10
 
Follow our new Twitter handle! @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:36:17</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Nine: Jefferson Ross and "Southern Currency"]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Thom and Producer Patrick are joined by Jefferson Ross, artist/singer/songwriter to talk about emotional sobriety. Also includes some stories from the old days as Jefferson and Thom are old friends. We are grateful to have Jefferson's permission to use his music as intro and wrap up for our podcast. If listeners are not familiar with his music, we encourage you to check it out: <a href="http://jeffersonross.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">jeffersonross.com</a></strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy…</strong></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10</a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow our new Twitter handle! <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Thom and Producer Patrick are joined by Jefferson Ross, artist/singer/songwriter to talk about emotional sobriety. Also includes some stories from the old days as Jefferson and Thom are old friends. We are grateful to have Jefferson's permission to use his music as intro and wrap up for our podcast. If listeners are not familiar with his music, we encourage you to check it out: jeffersonross.com
 
For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy…
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10
 
Follow our new Twitter handle! @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Nine: Jefferson Ross and "Southern Currency"]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Thom and Producer Patrick are joined by Jefferson Ross, artist/singer/songwriter to talk about emotional sobriety. Also includes some stories from the old days as Jefferson and Thom are old friends. We are grateful to have Jefferson's permission to use his music as intro and wrap up for our podcast. If listeners are not familiar with his music, we encourage you to check it out: <a href="http://jeffersonross.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">jeffersonross.com</a></strong></p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy…</strong></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10</a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow our new Twitter handle! <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Thom and Producer Patrick are joined by Jefferson Ross, artist/singer/songwriter to talk about emotional sobriety. Also includes some stories from the old days as Jefferson and Thom are old friends. We are grateful to have Jefferson's permission to use his music as intro and wrap up for our podcast. If listeners are not familiar with his music, we encourage you to check it out: jeffersonross.com
 
For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy…
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10
 
Follow our new Twitter handle! @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:52:38</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Eight: Holding Onto Ourselves in Relationships (Part Two)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2022 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Continuing discussion of the 14th chapter of Allen’s <em>12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>. This week we explore the roles self-differentiation (INTRApersonally) and differentiation with others (interpersonally) play in keeping us emotionally grounded despite whatever challenges our most vital relationships present to us.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could come in handy…</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow our new Twitter handle! <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Continuing discussion of the 14th chapter of Allen’s 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety. This week we explore the roles self-differentiation (INTRApersonally) and differentiation with others (interpersonally) play in keeping us emotionally grounded despite whatever challenges our most vital relationships present to us.
 
For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could come in handy…
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10
 
Follow our new Twitter handle! @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Eight: Holding Onto Ourselves in Relationships (Part Two)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Continuing discussion of the 14th chapter of Allen’s <em>12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>. This week we explore the roles self-differentiation (INTRApersonally) and differentiation with others (interpersonally) play in keeping us emotionally grounded despite whatever challenges our most vital relationships present to us.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could come in handy…</strong></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow our new Twitter handle! <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s2">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s5">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Continuing discussion of the 14th chapter of Allen’s 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety. This week we explore the roles self-differentiation (INTRApersonally) and differentiation with others (interpersonally) play in keeping us emotionally grounded despite whatever challenges our most vital relationships present to us.
 
For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could come in handy…
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10
 
Follow our new Twitter handle! @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:39</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Seven: Holding Onto Ourselves in Relationships (Part One)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2022 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/episode-thirty-seven-holding-onto-ourselves-in-relationships-part-one</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/episode-thirty-seven-holding-onto-ourselves-in-relationships-part-one</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Saving the toughest insight for last, here we discuss holding onto ourselves in contexts that involve other people and unpredictable circumstances. Emotional Sobriety isn’t something we do on our own that much. Most of the practice is how we relate to the hard facts of the universe, to ourselves, our fortunes and misfortunes, and our history, to family and friends, and most difficult of all: to the people we love.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Please follow our new Twitter handle <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Saving the toughest insight for last, here we discuss holding onto ourselves in contexts that involve other people and unpredictable circumstances. Emotional Sobriety isn’t something we do on our own that much. Most of the practice is how we relate to the hard facts of the universe, to ourselves, our fortunes and misfortunes, and our history, to family and friends, and most difficult of all: to the people we love.
 
Please follow our new Twitter handle @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Seven: Holding Onto Ourselves in Relationships (Part One)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1">Saving the toughest insight for last, here we discuss holding onto ourselves in contexts that involve other people and unpredictable circumstances. Emotional Sobriety isn’t something we do on our own that much. Most of the practice is how we relate to the hard facts of the universe, to ourselves, our fortunes and misfortunes, and our history, to family and friends, and most difficult of all: to the people we love.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Please follow our new Twitter handle <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Saving the toughest insight for last, here we discuss holding onto ourselves in contexts that involve other people and unpredictable circumstances. Emotional Sobriety isn’t something we do on our own that much. Most of the practice is how we relate to the hard facts of the universe, to ourselves, our fortunes and misfortunes, and our history, to family and friends, and most difficult of all: to the people we love.
 
Please follow our new Twitter handle @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
 ]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:40:05</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Six: Allen’s Sponsor (Part Two)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2022 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/episode-thirty-six-allens-sponsor-part-two</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/episode-thirty-six-allens-sponsor-part-two</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Concluding our in-depth conversation with Tom M., Allen’s sponsor of 50 years. In this episode he tells some spectacular stories about 12-step calls in Hawaii and spreading the message of recovery to places like Iran. He also describes his first meeting with Allen on a Marine Corps. air base.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow our new Twitter handle <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Concluding our in-depth conversation with Tom M., Allen’s sponsor of 50 years. In this episode he tells some spectacular stories about 12-step calls in Hawaii and spreading the message of recovery to places like Iran. He also describes his first meeting with Allen on a Marine Corps. air base.
 
Follow our new Twitter handle @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Six: Allen’s Sponsor (Part Two)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Concluding our in-depth conversation with Tom M., Allen’s sponsor of 50 years. In this episode he tells some spectacular stories about 12-step calls in Hawaii and spreading the message of recovery to places like Iran. He also describes his first meeting with Allen on a Marine Corps. air base.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Follow our new Twitter handle <a href="https://twitter.com/EmSobrietyPod"><span class="s1">@EmSobrietyPod</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Concluding our in-depth conversation with Tom M., Allen’s sponsor of 50 years. In this episode he tells some spectacular stories about 12-step calls in Hawaii and spreading the message of recovery to places like Iran. He also describes his first meeting with Allen on a Marine Corps. air base.
 
Follow our new Twitter handle @EmSobrietyPod
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:43:12</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Five: Allen’s Sponsor (Part One)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2022 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/episode-thirty-five-allens-sponsor-part-one</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/episode-thirty-five-allens-sponsor-part-one</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>The first part of a longer conversation with Tom M., Allen’s sponsor of 50 years. Tom breaks down his journey from addiction towards getting into a place of love and service and becoming an open channel, a winding road that's taken him to Iran and on 12 Step calls in Kailua.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[The first part of a longer conversation with Tom M., Allen’s sponsor of 50 years. Tom breaks down his journey from addiction towards getting into a place of love and service and becoming an open channel, a winding road that's taken him to Iran and on 12 Step calls in Kailua.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Five: Allen’s Sponsor (Part One)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>The first part of a longer conversation with Tom M., Allen’s sponsor of 50 years. Tom breaks down his journey from addiction towards getting into a place of love and service and becoming an open channel, a winding road that's taken him to Iran and on 12 Step calls in Kailua.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The first part of a longer conversation with Tom M., Allen’s sponsor of 50 years. Tom breaks down his journey from addiction towards getting into a place of love and service and becoming an open channel, a winding road that's taken him to Iran and on 12 Step calls in Kailua.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:37:06</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Four: Living a Purposeful Life (Part Two)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Emotional Sobriety offers us the opportunity to leave the tricks and tools of manipulation behind to make our gifts and talents real in the world through service. “One of the fundamental issues for all human beings is to know that they are useful. Without that you are a shell of a person.” </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety offers us the opportunity to leave the tricks and tools of manipulation behind to make our gifts and talents real in the world through service. “One of the fundamental issues for all human beings is to know that they are useful. Without that you are a shell of a person.” 
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Four: Living a Purposeful Life (Part Two)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Emotional Sobriety offers us the opportunity to leave the tricks and tools of manipulation behind to make our gifts and talents real in the world through service. “One of the fundamental issues for all human beings is to know that they are useful. Without that you are a shell of a person.” </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Emotional Sobriety offers us the opportunity to leave the tricks and tools of manipulation behind to make our gifts and talents real in the world through service. “One of the fundamental issues for all human beings is to know that they are useful. Without that you are a shell of a person.” 
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:43:00</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Three: Living a Purposeful Life (Part One)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2021 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Just in time for the end of the year, we arrive at the closing stretch of Allen’s <em>12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>. Finding our purpose, meaning and utility in life is the crux of our work in recovery. This concept intersects with the twelfth step of AA, in which we share what we have learned with others and practice these principles in all our affairs. According to the the late Dr. David Viscott, “The purpose of life is to discover your gift. The work of life is to develop it. The meaning of life is to give your gift away.” We’ll deepen discussion of this chapter next week.<span class="Apple-converted-space">     </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Just in time for the end of the year, we arrive at the closing stretch of Allen’s 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety. Finding our purpose, meaning and utility in life is the crux of our work in recovery. This concept intersects with the twelfth step of AA, in which we share what we have learned with others and practice these principles in all our affairs. According to the the late Dr. David Viscott, “The purpose of life is to discover your gift. The work of life is to develop it. The meaning of life is to give your gift away.” We’ll deepen discussion of this chapter next week.     
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Three: Living a Purposeful Life (Part One)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Just in time for the end of the year, we arrive at the closing stretch of Allen’s <em>12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety</em>. Finding our purpose, meaning and utility in life is the crux of our work in recovery. This concept intersects with the twelfth step of AA, in which we share what we have learned with others and practice these principles in all our affairs. According to the the late Dr. David Viscott, “The purpose of life is to discover your gift. The work of life is to develop it. The meaning of life is to give your gift away.” We’ll deepen discussion of this chapter next week.<span class="Apple-converted-space">     </span></strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Just in time for the end of the year, we arrive at the closing stretch of Allen’s 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety. Finding our purpose, meaning and utility in life is the crux of our work in recovery. This concept intersects with the twelfth step of AA, in which we share what we have learned with others and practice these principles in all our affairs. According to the the late Dr. David Viscott, “The purpose of life is to discover your gift. The work of life is to develop it. The meaning of life is to give your gift away.” We’ll deepen discussion of this chapter next week.     
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:39:09</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Two: Healing Through Forgiveness (Part Two)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/episode-thirty-two-healing-through-forgiveness-part-two-1</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/episode-thirty-two-healing-through-forgiveness-part-two-1</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>How can we release ourselves from our own attachment to our pain? This week we clarify a practical and useful definition for forgiveness, touching on grief, “naming it to claim it” and not personalizing the wrongs inflicted. </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[How can we release ourselves from our own attachment to our pain? This week we clarify a practical and useful definition for forgiveness, touching on grief, “naming it to claim it” and not personalizing the wrongs inflicted. 
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-Two: Healing Through Forgiveness (Part Two)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>How can we release ourselves from our own attachment to our pain? This week we clarify a practical and useful definition for forgiveness, touching on grief, “naming it to claim it” and not personalizing the wrongs inflicted. </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[How can we release ourselves from our own attachment to our pain? This week we clarify a practical and useful definition for forgiveness, touching on grief, “naming it to claim it” and not personalizing the wrongs inflicted. 
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:43:29</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-One: Brian Cuban on Recovery & Self-Hate]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2021 06:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Today we welcome returning guest Carol Carter and bestselling author and attorney Brian Cuban to discuss Brian's new book “The Ambulance Chaser.” Through a morass of eating disorders, addiction and self-hate, he tracks his recovery journey towards a happier place of “okay with being Brian.”</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More about Brian Cuban:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://briancuban.com/">https://briancuban.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Buy The Ambulance Chaser:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ambulance-Chaser-Brian-Cuban/dp/1637582412/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=the+ambulance+chaser&amp;qid=1634067104&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Ambulance-Chaser-Brian-Cuban/dp/1637582412/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=the+ambulance+chaser&amp;qid=1634067104&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Today we welcome returning guest Carol Carter and bestselling author and attorney Brian Cuban to discuss Brian's new book “The Ambulance Chaser.” Through a morass of eating disorders, addiction and self-hate, he tracks his recovery journey towards a happier place of “okay with being Brian.”
 
More about Brian Cuban:
https://briancuban.com/
 
Buy The Ambulance Chaser:
https://www.amazon.com/Ambulance-Chaser-Brian-Cuban/dp/1637582412/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+ambulance+chaser&qid=1634067104&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty-One: Brian Cuban on Recovery & Self-Hate]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Today we welcome returning guest Carol Carter and bestselling author and attorney Brian Cuban to discuss Brian's new book “The Ambulance Chaser.” Through a morass of eating disorders, addiction and self-hate, he tracks his recovery journey towards a happier place of “okay with being Brian.”</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">More about Brian Cuban:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://briancuban.com/">https://briancuban.com/</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Buy The Ambulance Chaser:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ambulance-Chaser-Brian-Cuban/dp/1637582412/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=the+ambulance+chaser&amp;qid=1634067104&amp;sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Ambulance-Chaser-Brian-Cuban/dp/1637582412/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=the+ambulance+chaser&amp;qid=1634067104&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Today we welcome returning guest Carol Carter and bestselling author and attorney Brian Cuban to discuss Brian's new book “The Ambulance Chaser.” Through a morass of eating disorders, addiction and self-hate, he tracks his recovery journey towards a happier place of “okay with being Brian.”
 
More about Brian Cuban:
https://briancuban.com/
 
Buy The Ambulance Chaser:
https://www.amazon.com/Ambulance-Chaser-Brian-Cuban/dp/1637582412/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+ambulance+chaser&qid=1634067104&sr=8-1
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:49:08</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty: Healing Through Forgiveness (Part One)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2021 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Forgiveness improves our well-being in profound ways. Forgiving others and ourselves helps us achieve freedom from emotionally painful experiences. We are able to claim the experiences we’ve had, rather than allowing those experiences to overwhelm or claim us. </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Forgiveness improves our well-being in profound ways. Forgiving others and ourselves helps us achieve freedom from emotionally painful experiences. We are able to claim the experiences we’ve had, rather than allowing those experiences to overwhelm or claim us. 
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Thirty: Healing Through Forgiveness (Part One)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Forgiveness improves our well-being in profound ways. Forgiving others and ourselves helps us achieve freedom from emotionally painful experiences. We are able to claim the experiences we’ve had, rather than allowing those experiences to overwhelm or claim us. </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Forgiveness improves our well-being in profound ways. Forgiving others and ourselves helps us achieve freedom from emotionally painful experiences. We are able to claim the experiences we’ve had, rather than allowing those experiences to overwhelm or claim us. 
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:33:50</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Nine: Perfectionism and the Holidays]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>The holidays place a magnifying glass on our experience: amplifying the good but sometimes also the bad. Here we touch on that, and explore further solutions to fighting back against our suffocating perfectionism.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[The holidays place a magnifying glass on our experience: amplifying the good but sometimes also the bad. Here we touch on that, and explore further solutions to fighting back against our suffocating perfectionism.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Nine: Perfectionism and the Holidays]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>The holidays place a magnifying glass on our experience: amplifying the good but sometimes also the bad. Here we touch on that, and explore further solutions to fighting back against our suffocating perfectionism.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1">For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g </strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[The holidays place a magnifying glass on our experience: amplifying the good but sometimes also the bad. Here we touch on that, and explore further solutions to fighting back against our suffocating perfectionism.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g 
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:40:53</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Eight: Breaking the Bonds of Perfectionism]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2021 06:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Thom and Allen bring their client and personal experiences to bear to unpack how perfectionism oppresses us, and how we might set ourselves free.</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We'll extend this topic into next week, while also observing how the holidays can uniquely test our emotional sobriety.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Thom and Allen bring their client and personal experiences to bear to unpack how perfectionism oppresses us, and how we might set ourselves free.
We'll extend this topic into next week, while also observing how the holidays can uniquely test our emotional sobriety.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Eight: Breaking the Bonds of Perfectionism]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Thom and Allen bring their client and personal experiences to bear to unpack how perfectionism oppresses us, and how we might set ourselves free.</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We'll extend this topic into next week, while also observing how the holidays can uniquely test our emotional sobriety.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thom and Allen bring their client and personal experiences to bear to unpack how perfectionism oppresses us, and how we might set ourselves free.
We'll extend this topic into next week, while also observing how the holidays can uniquely test our emotional sobriety.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:36:46</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Seven: Discovering Novel Solutions]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2021 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>How we cope with the issue we’re struggling with determines if it continues to be a problem or not. This week, Allen and Thom talk about left and right brain thinking, and how emotional sobriety lives in the space between a stimulus and a response.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[How we cope with the issue we’re struggling with determines if it continues to be a problem or not. This week, Allen and Thom talk about left and right brain thinking, and how emotional sobriety lives in the space between a stimulus and a response.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Seven: Discovering Novel Solutions]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>How we cope with the issue we’re struggling with determines if it continues to be a problem or not. This week, Allen and Thom talk about left and right brain thinking, and how emotional sobriety lives in the space between a stimulus and a response.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[How we cope with the issue we’re struggling with determines if it continues to be a problem or not. This week, Allen and Thom talk about left and right brain thinking, and how emotional sobriety lives in the space between a stimulus and a response.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:50:51</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Six: Living Life on Life’s Terms (Part Two)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>To live life on life’s terms, we first need to surrender our expectations. This requires a major shift in our consciousness - easier said than done! Allen, Thom, and Patrick offer up practical examples of how we can try to tackle this in our efforts to live a more “differentiated,” emotionally sober life.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[To live life on life’s terms, we first need to surrender our expectations. This requires a major shift in our consciousness - easier said than done! Allen, Thom, and Patrick offer up practical examples of how we can try to tackle this in our efforts to live a more “differentiated,” emotionally sober life.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Six: Living Life on Life’s Terms (Part Two)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>To live life on life’s terms, we first need to surrender our expectations. This requires a major shift in our consciousness - easier said than done! Allen, Thom, and Patrick offer up practical examples of how we can try to tackle this in our efforts to live a more “differentiated,” emotionally sober life.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[To live life on life’s terms, we first need to surrender our expectations. This requires a major shift in our consciousness - easier said than done! Allen, Thom, and Patrick offer up practical examples of how we can try to tackle this in our efforts to live a more “differentiated,” emotionally sober life.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:59</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Five: Living Life on Life’s Terms (Part One)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2021 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/episode-twenty-five-living-life-on-lifes-terms-part-one</guid>
                                    <link>https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/episodes/episode-twenty-five-living-life-on-lifes-terms-part-one</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>In discussing letting go of our expectations - both the obvious and the hidden - we refer to Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning. Dr. Berger speaks about how Dr. Frankl's groundbreaking work has influenced him as a psychologist and a writer.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[In discussing letting go of our expectations - both the obvious and the hidden - we refer to Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning. Dr. Berger speaks about how Dr. Frankl's groundbreaking work has influenced him as a psychologist and a writer.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Five: Living Life on Life’s Terms (Part One)]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>In discussing letting go of our expectations - both the obvious and the hidden - we refer to Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning. Dr. Berger speaks about how Dr. Frankl's groundbreaking work has influenced him as a psychologist and a writer.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[In discussing letting go of our expectations - both the obvious and the hidden - we refer to Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning. Dr. Berger speaks about how Dr. Frankl's groundbreaking work has influenced him as a psychologist and a writer.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:48:10</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Four: Accepting What Is]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2021 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/episode-twenty-four-accepting-what-is</guid>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Finding acceptance in ourselves and in the world is an inescapable key to any recovery. Part of it can be refusing to be in an adversarial relationship with ourselves. Acceptance is often born of a paradox: by declaring we won’t accept a situation, we move closer to accepting it. Thom and Allen dig into their own lives and in their work with clients to shed light on this chapter.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Finding acceptance in ourselves and in the world is an inescapable key to any recovery. Part of it can be refusing to be in an adversarial relationship with ourselves. Acceptance is often born of a paradox: by declaring we won’t accept a situation, we move closer to accepting it. Thom and Allen dig into their own lives and in their work with clients to shed light on this chapter.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Four: Accepting What Is]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Finding acceptance in ourselves and in the world is an inescapable key to any recovery. Part of it can be refusing to be in an adversarial relationship with ourselves. Acceptance is often born of a paradox: by declaring we won’t accept a situation, we move closer to accepting it. Thom and Allen dig into their own lives and in their work with clients to shed light on this chapter.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Finding acceptance in ourselves and in the world is an inescapable key to any recovery. Part of it can be refusing to be in an adversarial relationship with ourselves. Acceptance is often born of a paradox: by declaring we won’t accept a situation, we move closer to accepting it. Thom and Allen dig into their own lives and in their work with clients to shed light on this chapter.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:48:21</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Three: Recognizing the Problems in Our Relationships as Opportunities]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2021 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Allen, Thom &amp; Patrick veer away from discussing Dr. Berger's new book into a conversation about how changing the way we look at ourselves in relation to problems is essential to discovering the freedom we seek in personal growth work. Specifically, reframing problems as opportunities for growth is emphasized.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom & Patrick veer away from discussing Dr. Berger's new book into a conversation about how changing the way we look at ourselves in relation to problems is essential to discovering the freedom we seek in personal growth work. Specifically, reframing problems as opportunities for growth is emphasized.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Three: Recognizing the Problems in Our Relationships as Opportunities]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Allen, Thom &amp; Patrick veer away from discussing Dr. Berger's new book into a conversation about how changing the way we look at ourselves in relation to problems is essential to discovering the freedom we seek in personal growth work. Specifically, reframing problems as opportunities for growth is emphasized.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s2">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s2"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions or comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom & Patrick veer away from discussing Dr. Berger's new book into a conversation about how changing the way we look at ourselves in relation to problems is essential to discovering the freedom we seek in personal growth work. Specifically, reframing problems as opportunities for growth is emphasized.
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:48:30</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Two: "Sober Enough" with Joe. C]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
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                    https://emotional-sobriety.castos.com/podcasts/25529/episodes/episode-twenty-two-34sober-enough34-with-joe-c</guid>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Allen, Thom and Patrick are joined by fellow podcaster and author Joe C. Everything Joe C. learned about recovery and work came from music. We discuss Joe's concept of "sober enough" as opposed to the culture of perfectionism that does so much more harm than good.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Joe C’s book “Beyond Belief”: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio"><span class="s1">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Rebellion Dogs Radio: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio"><span class="s1">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Social Media:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://twitter.com/Rebellion_Dogs">https://twitter.com/Rebellion_Dogs</a></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/RebellionDogs/">https://www.facebook.com/RebellionDogs/</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions and comments.</strong></p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom and Patrick are joined by fellow podcaster and author Joe C. Everything Joe C. learned about recovery and work came from music. We discuss Joe's concept of "sober enough" as opposed to the culture of perfectionism that does so much more harm than good.
 
Check out Joe C’s book “Beyond Belief”: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio
 
Rebellion Dogs Radio: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio
 
Social Media:
https://twitter.com/Rebellion_Dogs
https://www.facebook.com/RebellionDogs/
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions and comments.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                    <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-Two: "Sober Enough" with Joe. C]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
                                                    <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
                                <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="p1"><strong>Allen, Thom and Patrick are joined by fellow podcaster and author Joe C. Everything Joe C. learned about recovery and work came from music. We discuss Joe's concept of "sober enough" as opposed to the culture of perfectionism that does so much more harm than good.</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Check out Joe C’s book “Beyond Belief”: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio"><span class="s1">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio</span></a></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Rebellion Dogs Radio: <a href="https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio"><span class="s1">https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Social Media:</p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://twitter.com/Rebellion_Dogs">https://twitter.com/Rebellion_Dogs</a></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/RebellionDogs/">https://www.facebook.com/RebellionDogs/</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s1">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s4"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions and comments.</strong></p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Allen, Thom and Patrick are joined by fellow podcaster and author Joe C. Everything Joe C. learned about recovery and work came from music. We discuss Joe's concept of "sober enough" as opposed to the culture of perfectionism that does so much more harm than good.
 
Check out Joe C’s book “Beyond Belief”: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio
 
Rebellion Dogs Radio: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio
 
Social Media:
https://twitter.com/Rebellion_Dogs
https://www.facebook.com/RebellionDogs/
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
 
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions and comments.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:58:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
                </itunes:author>
                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-One: Realizing That Nobody Is Coming]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2021 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>More on self support versus environmental support in recovery. How do we hold onto ourselves in relationships? Being present but also independent. Allen, Thom, and Patrick dig into their own relationships to offer insight.</p>
<p>Next week, we've invited Joe C. from the Rebellion Dogs podcast to talk emotional sobriety with us.</p>
<p class="p1">Newer listeners are encouraged to also drop into our first podcast, START RIGHT HERE. A bunch of compelling interviews and other goodies that tie into the Emotional Sobriety project. </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/start-right-here-conversations-about-what-matters-most/id1525039302">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/start-right-here-conversations-about-what-matters-most/id1525039302</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions and comments.</strong></p>
<p> </p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[More on self support versus environmental support in recovery. How do we hold onto ourselves in relationships? Being present but also independent. Allen, Thom, and Patrick dig into their own relationships to offer insight.
Next week, we've invited Joe C. from the Rebellion Dogs podcast to talk emotional sobriety with us.
Newer listeners are encouraged to also drop into our first podcast, START RIGHT HERE. A bunch of compelling interviews and other goodies that tie into the Emotional Sobriety project. 
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/start-right-here-conversations-about-what-matters-most/id1525039302
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions and comments.
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                    <![CDATA[Episode Twenty-One: Realizing That Nobody Is Coming]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>More on self support versus environmental support in recovery. How do we hold onto ourselves in relationships? Being present but also independent. Allen, Thom, and Patrick dig into their own relationships to offer insight.</p>
<p>Next week, we've invited Joe C. from the Rebellion Dogs podcast to talk emotional sobriety with us.</p>
<p class="p1">Newer listeners are encouraged to also drop into our first podcast, START RIGHT HERE. A bunch of compelling interviews and other goodies that tie into the Emotional Sobriety project. </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/start-right-here-conversations-about-what-matters-most/id1525039302">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/start-right-here-conversations-about-what-matters-most/id1525039302</a></span></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Allen’s new book,<strong> 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/"><span class="s3">https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/</span></a> </span></p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s2">Thom's book, <strong><em>Embracing Fear</em></strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><span class="s4">https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=</span></a></span></p>
<p class="p1">Join Allen &amp; Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>https://zoom.us/j/330149513</strong></p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Password: 375986</strong></p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Also, please join our <strong><em>“Emotional Sobriety and Recovery”</em></strong> FB Group at the following link:</p>
<p class="p3"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519">https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519</a></p>
<p class="p1">We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.</p>
<p class="p4"> </p>
<p class="p1"><strong>We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at </strong><a href="mailto:pndirective4@gmail.com"><span class="s3"><strong>pndirective4@gmail.com</strong></span></a><strong> for any questions and comments.</strong></p>
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                    <![CDATA[More on self support versus environmental support in recovery. How do we hold onto ourselves in relationships? Being present but also independent. Allen, Thom, and Patrick dig into their own relationships to offer insight.
Next week, we've invited Joe C. from the Rebellion Dogs podcast to talk emotional sobriety with us.
Newer listeners are encouraged to also drop into our first podcast, START RIGHT HERE. A bunch of compelling interviews and other goodies that tie into the Emotional Sobriety project. 
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/start-right-here-conversations-about-what-matters-most/id1525039302
 
Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ 
 
Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below)
https://zoom.us/j/330149513
Password: 375986
 
Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519
We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.
 
We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions and comments.
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                    <![CDATA[Allen Berger &amp; Thom Rutledge]]>
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