The conversation blends practical examples with candid reflection: Joel and Kate share their experiences navigating daily life in Berlin and wrestle with what it really means to be at peace. They also talk about the struggles of being independent people who are forced bo be more dependent on teammates as they get started in Berlin.

Stephen W. Jones and Mike Picconatto add their own insights on role deprivation, the pitfalls of perfectionism, and how assumptions from home cultures can disrupt the process of adapting abroad. Together, they offer encouragement and concrete advice—not just for those preparing to move, but for anyone seeking to support loved ones through cross-cultural transitions.

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Drawing from Dr. Jones’s "Cross-Cultural Transition Handbook," the episode dives into the factors that intensify the experience of transition.Through anecdotes and practical insight, the conversation encourages listeners to give themselves (and others) grace, offering connection and hope for anyone walking through the complexity of cultural change.

Main topics include emotional ups and downs in transition, factors that shape intensity and risk when moving cross-culturally, and practical strategies for coping, building community, and maintaining belonging. 

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In this episode of traxcultures, host Mike Picconatto reconnects with returning guests Joel and Kate Damon as they prepare to move to Berlin in under three weeks. Instead of diving into their planned book discussion, the trio takes time to give listeners a heartfelt update on the whirlwind of emotions and logistical challenges that come with cross-cultural transitions. From securing an apartment in Berlin to the process of sorting and packing up their home, Joel and Kate share candid reflections on how faith, supportive community, and a bit of humor have helped them navigate unexpected changes.

The conversation touches on the emotional complexity of saying goodbye to loved ones, carrying both their own grief and the grief of others, and practical tips for the daunting final weeks before an international move. Joel and Kate also highlight the importance of connection with sending communities in both familiar and unusual ways!

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In this episode of traxcultures, recorded just before Mike and Elissa Picconatto's latest home assignment, the conversation dives deep into the raw realities of returning to your passport country after years abroad. Joined by Dr. Stephen W. Jones and Jennie Jones, the team draws from firsthand experience and the Cross-Cultural Transition Handbook to explore the emotional, relational, and logistical challenges faced in reentry—whether it’s leaving behind the dailiness of life overseas, coping with ambiguous losses, or grappling with the sense of being a visitor in what was once home.

Listeners will hear candid reflections on grief, celebration, and the often-missed practicalities of transition, including the difficulty of saying proper goodbyes, navigating changed cultural norms, and the cumulative stress of reintegration. The group unpacks what they wish churches, friends, and family understood about the sensitivity and complexity of returning workers, and they share tips on self-care, grace, and setting healthy expectations. Whether you’re preparing for your own transition or walking alongside someone who is, this episode offers both empathy and practical wisdom for anyone facing the profound changes of coming home.

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In this episode, recorded almost a year ago on August 24, 2024, Mike is joined by his wife Elissa Picconatto, Dr. Stephen W. Jones, and Jennie Jones to explore the complexities of returning home after living abroad. Drawing on insights from the Cross-Cultural Transition Handbook, the team unpacks what it means to re-enter your passport or home country, whether for a brief home assignment or a permanent move. Stephen breaks down key concepts like reentry, reverse culture shock, and reintegration, noting the unique challenges and disorientation that arise when "home" no longer feels familiar.

The conversation takes a personal turn as Stephen and Jennie reflect on their recent short visits back to the U.S. after years away. They share observations about environmental shifts—everything feeling louder, bigger, and faster—as well as cultural and relational adjustments, such as reconnecting with family members whose lives have moved forward in their absence. 

Elissa and Mike also express anticipation and anxiety about reconnecting with loved ones after years abroad, highlighting the emotional complexities of changed relationships and shifting family dynamics. Throughout, the episode offers honest discussion about the joys and difficulties of maintaining a sense of belonging while navigating the inevitable changes that come with cross-cultural transitions.

This is episode 1 of a 2 part series.

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In this special, never-before-released episode from December 2022, host Mike Picconatto is joined by Stephen W. Jones and Jennie Jones for an honest, heartfelt conversation about navigating holiday traditions and the deeper meaning of “martyrdom”  while living abroad. In December of 2022, Stephen and Jennie were 18 months into their lives in Berlin, and in this episode they reflect on adjusting to new cultural rhythms, missing family back home, and the challenge process of forging new traditions amidst ongoing personnel transition on site.

Drawing from both ancient Celtic spirituality and their own lived experiences as expats and ministry workers, the trio discusses the three colors of martyrdom—red, green, and white—and how these ancient concepts resonate (even when the word martyrdom doesn’t!) in the everyday sacrifices and joys of cross-cultural life. 

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Mike is joined by guests Joel and Kate Damon for a candid update on their journey preparing to move to Berlin as international workers with the Christian and Missionary Alliance. The episode centers around their experiences at the Alliance Council gathering and the support and sense of belonging they found within the Alliance community. Joel and Kate discuss how their appearance, including visible tattoos, helps them connect with people who might not feel represented in traditional church spaces, and how this has opened up meaningful conversations and opportunities for ministry.

The conversation also delves into the practical realities and emotions of preparing for a major cross-cultural transition. Joel and Kate share about building new partnerships with churches, navigating the fundraising process, the logistics of packing up their home, and the bittersweet nature of saying goodbye to friends and family. They offer honest reflections on managing stress, maintaining patience with each other, and finding peace in the midst of uncertainty. The episode wraps up with advice for others embarking on similar journeys, emphasizing the importance of community, open communication, and embracing paradox — the "yay ducks" and "yuck ducks" (pair of ducks!) — of cross-cultural transition.

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In this episode, Mike is joined by Kate and Joel Damon for a conversation around the provocative episode title: “Don’t Just Be Yourself.” Drawing inspiration from Dr. Stephen W. Jones’s Cross-Cultural Transition Handbook, the group delves into why the advice to "just be yourself" can be misguided—especially when moving between cultures. Together, they explore the tensions between authenticity and the need to flex or adjust in new cultural situations.

The discussion looks into what it means to hold onto a core identity while remaining open to change, highlighting moments when “being yourself” might not serve you or those around you in a cross-cultural context. Learning to be solid at the core and soft at the edges is an important part of living interculturally, and this episode dives into what that means!

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In this episode, Mike is joined once again by Joel and Kate Damon as they dig into a key theme from Dr. Stephen W. Jones’ Cross-Cultural Transition Handbook: expectations. As Joel and Kate prepare for their upcoming move to Berlin, the conversation centers on the often unspoken hopes, assumptions, and uncertainties that come with any significant transition. Identifying and naming these expectations can help navigate the inevitable frustrations and surprises of adapting to a new culture.

Together, they explore practical examples of expectations—ranging from spiritual growth and professional identity to relationships with friends and family back home. Mike shares candid insights from years of working with teams and individuals in transition, highlighting how unmet expectations can lead to moments of self-discovery and growth. Kate and Joel open up about their personal hopes and fears, from homesickness to redefining community, and the trio offers valuable advice on communicating openly, managing disappointments, and finding new rhythms in unfamiliar territory. This episode is an honest, relatable look at embracing both the excitement and challenges of cross-cultural change.

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The conversation dives into personal stories of cross-cultural confusion, from picking the wrong cookies at a Berlin grocery store to adjusting to surprising wedding customs in Minnesota. The panel discusses the difference between traveling and truly living cross-culturally, the temptation to impose your own “normal” on new environments, and the comfort of accepting that mistakes and misunderstandings are a natural part of adapting. They also touch on the ways self-worth and feedback are handled differently in American and German cultures, and how anticipating culture shock—rather than denying it—can ease the process of growing into a new home.

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In today’s episode, host Mike Picconatto is joined by Kate and Joel Damon and Dr. Stephen W. Jones to kick off a two-part conversation exploring the question, “What is culture?” Drawing on insights from Stephen’s book, the Cross Cultural Transitions Handbook, the team unpacks the complex and often hard-to-define nature of culture. Stephen offers both simple and nuanced definitions of culture and helps us understand why cultural transitions are more difficult than we imagine they might be.

Together, Mike, Kate, Joel, and Stephen dig into real-life examples from their own communities—ranging from the concept of "Nebraska nice" to the subtle meanings behind everyday behaviors and cultural artifacts. The group discusses why cultures can be so different and why it is so important for us to not only be explorers of other cultures, but also spend time getting to know our own culture well.

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​​In this episode, Mike is joined again by Dr. Stephen W. Jones and Jennie Jones for part two of their insightful conversation on language learning and its role in cross-cultural transitions. Picking up where their previous discussion left off, Jennie and Stephen share candidly about shifting from individualized language lessons to a traditional classroom setting, highlighting the anxieties, surprises, and vulnerabilities that come with adapting to new methods of language acquisition. They reflect on how testing and placement levels often feel disconnected from real-life language use, and how language learning can deeply impact one’s sense of competence and self-worth, especially when comparing proficiency in a new language to their native tongue.

A major theme in this episode is the emotional and spiritual toll that language learning can take, especially for those whose previous work depended so much on communication and words. Mike, Stephen, and Jennie talk openly about challenges like role deprivation, moments of discouragement, and the impact of navigating complex topics in a language where they feel less capable. They also discuss the importance of embracing mistakes, the value of immersion, and the need to give oneself grace during the process. The episode offers encouragement for anyone feeling the strain of language learning during a cross-cultural move and is filled with practical insights and relatable stories for those in similar situations.

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In this episode, Mike is joined by Joel and Kate Damon for a conversation about “role deprivation” during cross-cultural transitions. Role deprivation is a part of the transition zone in which a person’s former “status as a force for good has not been replaced by anything.” (Stephen W. Jones, Cross-Cultural Transition Handbook, p. 52).  This role deprivation can be very disruptive.  In this episode, Mike, Joel, and Kate talk about the challenge of of rebuilding your sense of self, and the sometimes surprising grief—and freedom—of starting over.

Mike and the guests also explore practical strategies for navigating this season, highlighting insights from Dr. Stephen W. Jones’ cross-cultural transition handbook. They examine how pressing into the difficulties of transition, journaling, engaging in new communities, and leaning into their faith can provide support and continuity. The episode wraps up with reflections on the deeper spiritual aspects of letting go, the metaphor of death and rebirth, and finding hope in the promise of new growth and new roles in an unfamiliar culture.

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In this episode of "TraxCultures," host Mike Picconatto chats with season 3 guests Joel and Kate Damon about a tricky part of major life changes and cross-cultural transitions — the "transition zone." As they get ready to move from Omaha to Berlin, Joel and Kate share what it's like to leave one life behind while not quite settling into the next. Drawing from Dr. Steven W. Jones' "Cross-Cultural Transition Handbook," they discuss why this in-between phase, often called “the neutral zone,” can be so tough to navigate.

The discussion touches on Joel and Kate's past transitions, highlighting how important it is to recognize when to pause and find closure. They open up about the role community has played during past major life changes and share what’s helped and what hasn’t. As they face this new chapter, they tak about their feelings of sensitivity and being overwhelmed. This episode is packed with down-to-earth insights, offering you a better understanding of your own cross-cultural journey!

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00:00 Introduction and Season 2 Insights

05:05 Leaving and Rebuilding Church Community

06:44 Navigating Life's Transition Zones

12:07 Reframing Coping Mechanisms Perception

14:21 Morning Reflection and Time Management

16:01 Balancing Online Engagement and Self-Care

21:04 Embracing Life's Ups and Downs

25:43 Craving Community While being Overwhelmed

26:46 Navigating Uncertainty with Trust

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In today’s episode, Mike welcomes back guests Dr. Stephen W. Jones and Jennie Jones for part one of a two-part series focusing on language learning as part of cultural transitions. One year after starting our podcast, the Jones have now been in Berlin long enough to have gotten immersed in language learning.  Today, they discuss the unique challenges and experiences they've faced while adapting to a new linguistic environment. The conversation delves into different language learning methods, highlighting how their approaches differ based on individual learning styles and past experiences. 

The Joneses also discuss practical language acquisition strategies they’ve employed, such as listening to German music, reading level-appropriate books, and utilizing streaming services with German subtitles. Through candid anecdotes, they describe the initial confusion and gradual victories over language barriers, like confidently navigating small talk at local bakeries. This episode provides valuable insights for those experiencing or preparing for similar transitions, emphasizing the importance of understanding language not just as a tool for communication but as an entryway to cultural understanding.

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00:00 "Language Learning and Cultural Transition"
06:26 Language Class with Spouse Conundrum
06:58 "Redefining Success in Language Learning"
11:24 "Complexity of Simple German Sentences"
15:46 Language Learning Strategies Enhanced
19:27 Understanding Verb Placement Challenges
22:22 Rediscovering Familiar Lessons
26:41 Respecting Language Learners' Challenges
28:24 Language Requires Cultural Context

This episode also touches on the unexpected ways in which loss and change manifest, such as leaving jobs and closing a gallery Joel has managed for a long time. The conversation underscores the importance of cherishing sweet moments and having the patience to embrace transitions. Tune in to this heartfelt discussion that exemplifies how to navigate endings while looking forward to new beginnings.

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00:00 Navigating Change and Unexpected Emotions

03:44 Unexpected Life Shifts and Endings

07:12 "Evolving Family Bonds"

11:46 Anticipating Changes and Endings

14:11 Challenges in Maintaining Friendships

17:03 Adjusting to Berlin's Quiet Sundays

21:58 Attachment to Keys

24:58 "American Smiles and Social Dynamics"

26:47 Navigating Life's Transition Zones

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In this episode of traxcultures, host Michael Picconatto explores how Jennie and Stephen W. Jones are handling the challenges of transitioning to a new culture after six months. The discussion focuses on various coping mechanisms, balancing creating and consuming activities, as well as aggressive and withdrawing strategies. Jennie finds comfort in reading and knitting, while Stephen explores through photography and city walks. They emphasize the importance of communication, recognizing unhealthy patterns, and having supportive relationships that ask, "Are you doing well?"

The episode also touches on the spiritual challenges that come with cross-cultural transitions, like feelings of distance from God and the absence of familiar spiritual environments. The guests share moments of encouragement, such as attending a multicultural worship service. They discuss the challenge of maintaining faith in unfamiliar contexts and the importance of honest communication about their feelings during this period of adjustment.

Looking towards new beginnings, Jennie and Stephen are still exploring what activities will bring lasting joy and continuity with their past experiences. Jennie considers joining a local choir to engage her love for music and community, while Stephen looks forward to potential involvement in education. This episode offers practical insights for anyone experiencing a cultural transition or supporting a loved one in such a journey.

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00:16 "Coping & Beginnings"

04:10 "Exploring Coping Mechanisms in Times of Stress"

09:36 "Coping and Communication: Navigating Stress Together"

14:24 The Challenge of Faith in Cross-Cultural Transitions.

17:14 Finding Coping Mechanisms Beyond Quiet Time with God.

19:58 "Balancing Creativity and Productivity: A Personal Struggle"

21:36 "The Struggle of Starting a DIY Project"

26:41 "New Beginnings: Excitement and Challenges Ahead"

28:28 COVID-19 Disrupts Podcast Recording Schedule

In this episode, Mike delves into the nuances of cross-cultural transitions with the Damons, who candidly share their concerns, initial apprehensions, and evolving excitement about relocating to Germany. The conversation also touches upon the supportive role of their church community and the impact of learning to welcome change. Throughout this season, the podcast will draw upon insights from the Cross-Cultural Transition Handbook by Dr. Stephen W. Jones, offering listeners a practical guide to understanding and navigating life changes across cultures.

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00:00 An Omaha couple, active in the art scene and mentoring youth, visited Envision Berlin, got inspired, then faced an unexpected job loss.

04:13 Switching my mindset from fear to seeing Berlin as God does helped me embrace the move from Nebraska.

08:13 I've been stepping out of my comfort zone, which has really helped me connect with others.

12:10 An awesome network back home makes sure they never feel alone.

13:48 Even without the stress from fundraising, prepping for a big life change is intense.

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In this episode of Trax Cultures, Mike Picconatto is joined by Dr. Stephen W. Jones and Jennie Jones to dive into the challenging process of cultural transitions. Drawing from their own recent relocation to Berlin, they explore the transitional phases and the adjustments required when moving across cultures. 

As the Jones family celebrates 6 months of being in Berlin, Mike talks with Stephen and Jennie about two very important concepts in the Cultural Transition model: coping and new beginnings.

In today’s episode, we talk about the real length of transition as opposed to the perceived length of transition. Even though the Jones have been here for 6 months, they have been in transition for much longer. What are the impacts of that? What are the impacts of such a long transition on how we handle stress?

How do we cope when many of our old ways of coping are no longer available to us?

Is it still too early to talk about new beginnings? When is it reasonable to expect that people are settling into their new life?

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 Timestamped Overview: 

00:00 Podcast exploring transitions across diverse cultures.
05:25 Started planning in 2019, made significant changes.
08:44 Coping mechanisms change during periods of transition.
12:33 Uncomfortable transition leads to important new beginnings.
16:19 Be cautious with rushing into new beginnings.
17:28 Navigating identity and new experiences in unfamiliar cultures.
20:35 Language teacher asked about politics, cultural disconnect.
25:40 Authentic beginnings require curiosity, patience, determination.
27:49 Rushing new beginnings can lead to instability.

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In today's episode, Mike is joined once again by his children, Johannah and Caleb Picconatto, as well as Dr. Stephen W. Jones, to delve deeper into the impacts of cultural transitions on kids. They explore the intricate dynamics of maintaining friendships across continents, particularly how online gaming and technology have revolutionized long-distance connections after moving away. Both Johannah and Caleb share personal anecdotes from their early days in Berlin, highlighting the emotional and physical challenges of moving and adjusting to a new cultural landscape.

Dr. Stephen W. Jones provides insightful reflections on his frequent relocations, including the unique perspectives and challenges faced as a Navy brat. The conversation also touches on the difficulties of fully identifying with either American or German culture, the feelings of being in between two worlds, and the impact of these experiences on their sense of political identity and social engagement. The discussions offer a compelling view into the emotional and psychological aspects of transitioning cultures, providing valuable insight for listeners who might be navigating similar experiences or simply interested in the complex psychology of global transitions.

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00:00 Discussion on identity and childhood memories of transitioning cultures.
05:47 Military moves require quick unpacking and settling in due to frequent relocations.
06:49 Narrative about returning to Japan, realtive’s death, returning to Connecticut, living off-base and specific memory of vomiting on moving walkway.
10:23 Struggling with losing stuffed animal in first move, felt different in second move with the assurance of returning to same place.
13:18 First day at international school, new bathroom construction caused distress.
17:45 Struggle to form relationships after moving, but resolved to make effort.
22:10 Guest finds the pledge of allegiance strange due to historical context and emphasizes not being nationalistic, expressing discomfort with patriotism levels in the US.
25:29 Desire to promote social change in the US despite not growing up there.
27:30 Desire for change and discomfort of fitting in as a Third Culture Kid.
29:37 Grateful for listener feedback; inviting support

Notes

Today, Mike is joined by two of his children, Johannah and Caleb Picconatto, along with author Dr. Stephen W. Jones, to dive into the complex impacts of cross-cultural transitions on kids. Johannah and Caleb share their personal journey of moving to Berlin at a young age and navigating the challenges of integrating into German culture and schools. From initial struggles with language and cultural differences to eventually embracing their unique backgrounds as strengths, the siblings provide insight into the nuanced experiences of Third Culture Kids (TCKs).

Mike and Stephen also explore the difficulties faced by TCKs in establishing their identity, dealing with the unsettling question of "Where are you from?" and feeling at odds with the culture they currently live in. Caleb and Johannah reflect on feeling more American in Germany and more German in America, highlighting the bifurcated identity many TCKs experience. This episode touches on the psychological and social impacts of growing up between cultures, the longing for a sense of belonging, and the difficulty of defining one true "home." 

Links:

One book we have found helpful: Third Culture Kids 3rd Edition: Growing up among worlds  (As Amazon Associates, we receive a small proceed of books purchased using this link.)

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

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 Timestamped Overview: 

00:00 Trax Cultures: podcast on transitions across cultures.
04:21 Born in US, lived in Germany, identity.
07:06 TCK's cultural identity shifts between Germany and US.
12:20 Constant moving, difficulty finding a sense of home.
15:22 Adjusting to a new school in Germany.
17:03 Challenging move to Germany, new language.
19:31 Transitioning into small, tight-knit international school.
25:25 Identity negotiation in communication leads to discomfort.
26:13 TCKs internalize sense of not being okay.
29:32 Envision Berlin: Support our work, gain insights.

Notes

In this special Holiday Edition, Stephen and Jennie Jones, new staff at Envision Berlin, join Mike to revisit the themes of the Neutral Zone, Culture Stress, and Culture Shock through the lens of holidays - from Halloween to Christmas.

Holidays can be times when the transitions are felt more intensely. The combination of missing events from the US and experiencing familiar and unfamiliar holidays in a new location can trigger strong emotions - both positive and negative.

In this episode, we delve into the nuances of local holiday customs, from Saint Martin's Day to Christmas traditions. We'll explore their moments of confusion and adaptation as they grapple with the unfamiliar traditions of their new home, shedding light on the challenges and triumphs of cultural assimilation.

Additionally, we'll reflect on the impact of COVID on past Christmas celebrations and hear about their endeavors to create meaningful experiences for interns during the holiday season. Join us as we unravel the tapestry of celebrating the holidays across cultures on traxcultures, where the beauty of cultural transitions comes to life.

Links:

Here is a history of St Martin at iamexpat.de and here an explanation of the tradition and some videos to the songs the kids sing at berlinforallthefamily.com

Our episodes on The Neutral Zone - Episode 4, Episode 5, and Episode 6

Our Episodes on Culture Shock - Episode 12, Episode 13, and Episode 14

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

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Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

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Timestamped Overview: 

05:19 Event with kids and lanterns.

08:44 Learning about Saint Nicholas Day traditions from social media.

12:41 Many lights and decorations, but lacking spirit.

14:40 Anticipation of Jesus' return and Christmas countdown.

18:39 German Christmas trees tradition.

22:17 Building community in transition through intentional patterns.

25:07 Post-Christmas shopping, family time, and nostalgia.

27:05 Family support during holidays brings mixed emotions.

Notes

In this special Holiday Edition, Stephen and Jennie Jones, new staff at Envision Berlin, join Mike to revisit the themes of the Neutral Zone, Culture Stress, and Culture Shock through the lens of holidays - from Halloween to Christmas.

Holidays can be times when the transitions are felt more intensely. The combination of missing events from the US and experiencing familiar and unfamiliar holidays in a new location can trigger strong emotions - both positive and negative.

You also begin to appreciate the significance of certain holidays, and the “background” to those holidays, when you experience them from a very different perspective.

Links:

Our episodes on The Neutral Zone - Episode 4, Episode 5, and Episode 6

Our Episodes on Culture Shock - Episode 12, Episode 13, and Episode 14

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

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Timestamped Overview: 

00:00 Neutral zone: transition space between old/new self.

05:34 Initial disbelief turned into surprise on Halloween.

06:51 Unusual sighting of plague mask prompts confusion.

12:19 Thanksgiving transition leads to role deprivation challenges.

13:46 Confident in competence, navigating college, new beginnings.

19:07 Unusual Thanksgiving, missed background, helping others usually.

20:16 Distinguishing culture shock from transitioning experiences.

24:01 Enjoyed grilling turkeys, uncertain about future opportunities.

27:49 Shocking experience discussing Black Friday and holidays.

Notes

In this episode, we continue our deep dive into the experiences of cross-cultural transitions with our special guests Stephen and Jennie Jones. The episode delves into the fluctuating feelings of capability, the impact of the Jones family's experiences on their emotional well-being, and the anticipation of missing significant events while feeling a sense of heaviness about the upcoming experiences.

Throughout this episode, the guests candidly express feelings of disorientation, struggle in communication, and waves of homesickness as they adapt to their new environment. Stephen W. Jones brings in insightful perspectives from his "Cross Cultural Transition Handbook," which offers a unique framework for understanding and navigating culture shock.

The vulnerability and honesty expressed in this conversation provide a valuable window into the emotional impact of culture shock and the ongoing process of adaptation. Produced by Envision Berlin, this episode truly captures the challenges, the joys, and the complexities of transitioning across cultures. 

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

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 Timestamped Overview: 

00:00 "Traxcultures: Unraveling transitions across different cultures podcast."

06:09 Close grocery stores and accessible public transit.

08:23 Emotional high fading, confidence and adaptation growing.

12:10 Exciting office work, homesickness and nostalgia.

13:57 Surprised at productivity despite knowing it would happen.

19:25 Feeling discomfort, seeking self-reflection and acceptance.

20:49 Struggling with exhaustion and culture shock.

26:13 Dealing with culture shock, communication, and grace.

27:22 Emphasis on self-discovery through prayer and community.

Notes

In this episode, our host Mike Picconatto and guests Stephen and Jennie Jones take a closer look at the impact of cultural stress and culture shock on individuals.  They share real-life examples of culturally stressful incidents, from grappling with language barriers at the grocery store to navigating public transportation schedule changes and dealing with technological mishaps. The conversation unpacks the distinction between culturally stressful incidents and culture shock, emphasizing how even an understanding of cultural norms can still lead to stress.

Join us as we explore the difference between culture shock and culture stress.  Mike, Stephen, and Jennie highlight the significance of self-awareness and reflective practices in acknowledging and navigating culture shock

We also discuss healthy coping mechanisms, the risks of negative coping patterns, and the importance of accessing support resources. 

This episode sheds light on the necessity of creating a supportive environment for individuals to openly acknowledge their struggles, without immediately seeking to "fix" them, and the value of conscious directing of coping mechanisms. 

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

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Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

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 Timestamped Overview: 

05:02 The stress of cultural norms and restrictions.

08:50 Stressful cultural impact on everyday decision making.

11:29 Recognize and acknowledge culture shock's symptoms.

16:14 Normalize struggle with culture shock in ministry.

17:13 Discovering culture shock symptoms leads to shock.

20:51 Recognize stress-induced habits to redirect them.

26:04 Struggling to start yarn project due to energy.

27:29 Questioning existence, identity, and faith.

Notes

In this episode, host Mike Picconatto is joined by guests Jennie Jones and Stephen W. Jones as they discuss culture shock and transition. Together, they talk about the emotional highs, disenchantment, discouragement, and depression that mark the stages of culture shock. 

With a focus on the book "Transitions across Cultures" by Dr. Stephen W. Jones, Mike, Stephen, and Jennie delve into the cumulative disorientation experienced in a new culture, shedding light on the emotional toll and the predictable patterns associated with culture shock.

The episode also unpacks some of the symptoms of culture shock and the importance of seeking mental health support when navigating through these challenges. Listeners are treated to valuable insights into the psychological nuances of culture shock, providing a deeper understanding of the impact it can have on individuals embracing life in a foreign culture. 

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

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Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

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 Timestamped Overview: 

00:00 Traxcultures podcast: unraveling transitions across cultures.

06:20 Exciting cultural experience, but not authentic immersion.

08:00 Facing challenges, uncertainty, and discouragement in life.

12:56 Culture shock can be confusing and overwhelming.

14:25 International transitions can impact mental health significantly.

18:22 Adapting to change with stability and resilience.

23:46 Culture shock is about transition and disorientation.

24:51 Different cultures may cause everyone culture shock.

Notes

This week’s episode concludes a 2 part-series recorded in Berlin, Germany. The Jones family moved to Berlin at the end of July 2021, and Stephen and Jennie sat down with host Mike Picconatto to discuss some of their early experiences in their massive family transition.

In this series, Stephen and Jennie look back at the themes covered in earlier episodes: Beginning with the Endings (Episodes 1-3), The Neutral Zone (Episodes 4-6), and What is Culture (Episodes 8-19). Stephen explains in this episode why it is such an important practice to continue to ask yourself questions as you process an intercultural transition. We also explore some of the neutral zone challenges and start to dig into a concept known as “the thread of continuity” a little deeper.

This series is more than just a review of past concepts, it is an introspective look back at how accurate their early expectations were and how they align with the reality they are experiencing.

Resources from this episode:

Episodes 01-03 from our Podcast, where we introduce “Beginning with the Endings”

Episode 1 on Spotify and Apple Podcasts

Episode 2 on Spotify and Apple Podcasts

Episode 3 on Spotify and Apple Podcasts

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

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 Timestamped Overview: 

04:59 Seeking comfort, competence, and confidence in life.

10:05 Navigating language and public interactions brings uncertainty.

13:29 Navigating COVID makes social decisions more complex.

15:05 Feeling disoriented as both novice and expert.

18:32 Rediscovering true self during a transition phase.

23:40 Struggling with competence, balance, and family dynamics.

25:01 Struggling to vocalize feeling and uncertainty.

29:51 Support Envision Berlin on Patreon for perks.

In this 2-part series, Stephen and Jennie look back at the themes covered in earlier episodes: Beginning with the Endings (Episodes 1-3), The Neutral Zone (Episodes 4-6), and What is Culture (Episodes 8-19). This practice of intentionally looking back during the transition process is an important part of healtihly navigating through the changes that cultural transitions bring, but more about that next week!

We are once again viewing the transition the Jones family is experiencing through the lens of Stephen’s book, Transitions Across Cultures and his Cross Cultural Transition Handbook.

Resources from this episode:

Episodes 01-03 from our Podcast, where we introduce “Beginning with the Endings”

Episode 1 on Spotify and Apple Podcasts

Episode 2 on Spotify and Apple Podcasts

Episode 3 on Spotify and Apple Podcasts

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

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 Timestamped Overview: 

04:02 Unexpected sense of disorientation in new city.
07:53 Finding my way without directions, it's weird.
10:31 Shift from nature to urban life's intimacy.
14:31 Birthday was good, missed home's familiar routine.
18:35 Struggling to connect with current events and people.
20:04 Disconnect and transition in familial involvement at school.
25:46 Challenges of cultural adjustments and feelings of incompetence.
28:26 Encouraging podcast listeners to share cross-cultural experiences.

Notes

Welcome to another episode of Trax Cultures, where we delve deep into the intricacies of cultural transitions. In today's episode, the final episode of a three part series on “What is Culture,” we continue our exploration of culture we are joined again by Stephen W. Jones and Jennie Jones, as we dive into the topic of cultural disorientation and its impact on our lives.

In this episode, Stephen and Jennie reflect on their upcoming move to Berlin, Germany, and the disorienting factors they anticipate. Language is a major concern for them, as they look ahead to the challenges of not fully understanding the language and cultural nuances. They also discuss the shift from being tourists to residents and the higher expectations that come with it. From learning apartment living etiquette to navigating parenting in a new cultural context, Stephen and Jennie are preparing for a whole new set of challenges.

As the conversation unfolds, the topic expands to include how differences in culture can sometimes be disorienting. Whether it's encountering unfamiliar customs, religious practices, or even musical worship styles, our default reaction tends to be to judge these differences as inferior or wrong. However, Stephen and Jennie emphasize the importance of approaching cultural differences with kindness and grace, both in our own culture and when immersing ourselves in a new one.

They remind us that we are not the norm or the neutral standard, but rather products of our own cultural perspectives. By recognizing our own contextualized experiences, we can better appreciate and understand the value of different cultural expressions. Stephen also highlights the importance of finding stability and truth in the midst of cultural transitions, even if our understanding of them is shaped by our own cultural lens.

So join us on this enlightening episode as we delve into the complexities of cultural disorientation and explore how we can navigate it with empathy and openness.

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

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 Timestamped Overview: 

[00:03:09] Transitioning from adept tourist to culturally incompetent resident.

[00:09:33] Valuing differences and finding cultural stability.

[00:10:52] Discovering different perspectives challenges students' understanding of Christianity.

[00:16:21] Commitment to shared work and family honor.

[00:18:35] Cultural clash - longing for familiar normalcy.

[00:22:05] Disorientation is inevitable in Berlin, expect difficulty.

[00:25:04] Concluding culture series; extra content on Patreon.

Notes

In this episode, part two of a three part series on “What is Culture?”  we continue our exploration of the concept of culture and its nuances. 

Join host Mike Picconatto as he engages in enlightening conversations with author and cross-cultural expert Dr. Stephen W. Jones, and his wife, Jennie Jones. 

In this installment, we delve into the concept of tacit knowledge, which can often be a hurdle in cross-cultural interactions. Tacit knowledge refers to the things we know, but may not consciously realize we know. These unspoken cultural understandings can cause misunderstandings, as what may be considered respectful in one culture might be seen as disrespectful in another. From the subtle non-verbal cues of eye contact to the physical distance between individuals during a conversation, these aspects of culture are deeply ingrained and shape our interactions on a fundamental level. 

We share personal experiences and anecdotes to shed light on how individual cultural customs and beliefs influence our behavior without us even realizing it. From the significance of resting poses like crossed arms to the different interpretations of time, we begin to uncover the multifaceted nature of tacit knowledge. As we explore these examples, we see how cultural perspectives on time, communication, and honesty can vary greatly, highlighting the importance of understanding and embracing cultural diversity. 

Join us on this thought-provoking journey as we delve deeper into the hidden depths of culture and how it shapes our lives. Stay tuned for more insightful conversations on transitions across cultures, as we bring you the best content to enhance your cross-cultural experiences. 

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

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Timestamped Overview: 

[00:02:14] Knowing cultural codes can be challenging.

[00:06:15] Deep cultural understanding of time is elusive.

[00:10:04] Differences in perception and understanding of change.

[00:13:01] Cultural apology expectations hindered reconciliation attempts.

[00:14:40] Identity order and priority: individualism vs collectivism.

[00:19:44] Two family sides: emotional expression and restraint.

[00:22:44] Asking for timeline, misunderstanding offense. Emotional family.

[00:25:17] Funny similarity in punctuality between us. Military kid. On-time is late.

In today's episode, we dive into the fascinating topic of culture. What exactly is culture, and how does it shape our interactions with others? 

Join host Mike Picconatto and his guests, Stephen W. Jones and Jennie Jones, as begin a three part series exploring the complexities of culture and its impact on our lives. In this conversation, they start by discussing the elusive nature of culture and the various definitions that have been proposed over the years. 

From "how people do their stuff together" to being a shared set of values, beliefs, and behaviors, culture is a multifaceted concept that is learned and developed through interactions with others. The hosts also challenge common misconceptions about culture, such as associating it solely with national boundaries. Instead, they emphasize the importance of recognizing culture in different contexts, whether it's within a family, an organization, or even between individuals. 

As the conversation unfolds, the guests delve into metaphors that help illustrate the complexity of culture. From the web of interconnected symbols to the layers of an onion (or a parfait!), each metaphor offers a unique perspective on how culture operates. However, it is the metaphor of an iceberg that truly resonates, highlighting the idea that culture is mostly hidden beneath the surface, constantly evolving and shaping our experiences. 

So, whether you're a seasoned globetrotter or simply curious about the intricacies of culture, this episode is sure to captivate and educate. Join us as we embark on this enlightening exploration of what culture truly means. 

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

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Timestamped Overview: 

[00:01:57] Culture is difficult to define, but it involves how people do things together.

[00:04:43] The overlap of individual culture across societies is limited, unless there is close-knit social integration.

[00:07:54] Culture is like an iceberg.

[00:10:28] Language is visible but also complex; it involves rules, forms, and situational changes. Gender and cultural beliefs affect communication behavior. Violating beliefs can lead to issues. Power and authority might be related.

[00:14:16] Titles are important in German culture, especially when giving formal speeches or searching for an apartment. However, titles become less significant in relationships.

[00:18:51] The lack of shortcuts for social interaction creates barriers. Using driving as an analogy, unfamiliar intersections can lead to accidents due to different rules.

[00:22:50] After nine years in Berlin, adjusting to cultural differences and experiencing reverse culture shock when returning to the US.

[00:23:59] Unexpected departures caused disappointment due to adjusting to a new normal, highlighting the importance of cultural understanding and respect.

Notes

In today's episode, titled "The Neutral Zone - Part 3 of 3," we conclude our conversation with Stephen and Jennie Jones about the unique challenges and experiences of navigating the transition zone. 

As we delve into the discussion, we'll explore how this time in the neutral zone impacts their faith journey. They discuss the importance of having certain aspects of life settled, such as identity and commitment, even when feelings may fluctuate during the transition zone.

Later in the episode, we dive into the topic of expectations and their role in the transition zone. While acknowledging the potential pitfalls of unrealistic expectations, Stephen and Jennie share their hopes for the future, including finding a cherished coffee shop and deepening their relationship with their new team. They also discuss the excitement of pursuing their passions and feeling the freedom to engage in meaningful endeavors that align with their calling.

Join us as we explore the complexities and promises of the transition zone, gain valuable insights from Stephen and Jennie's personal experiences, and uncover how expectations can shape our journey. 

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

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 Timestamped Overview: 

[00:00:59] Guests Stephen and Jenny Jones share their experiences and expectations in this in-between stage.

[00:03:23] Friends found freedom in liturgy, where truth doesn't rely on feelings. Important to have settled identity and commitment in transitions.

[00:07:44] Hoping to do what we love, but also wary of potential pitfalls and uncertainties.

[00:10:38] Navigating uncertain partnership development stage, balancing certainty and lack thereof; a strange tension.

[00:16:34] Uncertainty in expectations and transitioning is a challenge.

[00:18:13] Chaos and unexpected endings.

[00:22:03] End of the series, reach out for support and questions. 

Brief Description: 

Welcome back to traxcultures, the podcast where we explore the experiences and challenges of transitioning across cultures. In today's episode, "The Neutral Zone - Part 2 of 3", we delve deeper into the tumultuous period of transition known as the neutral zone. Joining us once again are our guests, Jennie and Stephen W. Jones, as they share their personal experiences navigating this challenging phase.

Host Mike Picconatto sets the stage by describing the neutral zone as a time between two circumstances, where one feels stuck and uncertain, much like a car in neutral. Stephen further illustrates this feeling by comparing it to a chaotic tornado, where everything is in disarray. Jennie chimes in, explaining how she is currently caught in the middle of this tornado, unable to find stability or make plans for the future.

The lack of certainty permeates every aspect of their lives, from scheduling activities for their children to simple leisure activities like having friends over for a backyard bonfire. Though they intend to be intentional about endings and make time for what's important, the constant unpredictability of their situation hinders their ability to do so.

This constant state of flux takes a toll on Jennie and Stephen's mental health. Jennie reveals how she often lacks the capacity to engage in meaningful conversations, even though they are essential for their well-being. Stephen, on the other hand, shares how exhaustion and the pressure of making important decisions have left him feeling disoriented, as if he were in a constant state of drunkenness.

As we continue to explore the challenges faced during the neutral zone, we'll dive deeper into the impact on mental health and discuss coping strategies. Stay tuned for the next part of our conversation with Jennie and Stephen W. Jones on Trax Cultures.

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

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 Timestamped Overview: 

00:01:07 Neutral time: transitions between old and new.

00:04:49 Fast-paced game with pressure from all sides.

00:08:12 Exhausted and struggling with decision-making.

00:11:47 Dumb fights, asking, frustrated, seeking resolution.

00:13:21 Finding control in small aspects of life.

00:19:38 Regular check-ins and celebrating the good.

00:23:54 3-part series on transition zone with Steven and Jennie Jones. Next episode concludes series. 

Brief Description

On this episode of traxcultures, we start a 3-part series about the neutral zone. The neutral zone, or the transition zone, is that unique and sometimes uncomfortable place between the endings of something old and the beginnings of something new.  Our guests are Jennie Jones and Stephen W. Jones, who share their personal experiences and perspectives on navigating the ambiguities and uncertainties that come with transitioning between cultures.

In this episode, we delve into the concept of the neutral zone, a liminal space where one is neither fully immersed in their previous culture nor completely integrated into the new one. We explore the many transition experiences people encounter throughout ordinary life, from graduations to getting married, job changes to relocating, and the profound impact they have on our sense of identity and understanding of the world.

Jennie and Stephen open up about their own transition journeys, recounting moments of unexpected endings and newfound beginnings as they adjusted to married life and parenthood. They also shed light on the logistical challenges of moving internationally and the profound impact of cultural differences on one's perception and navigation of everyday life.

Through their shared experiences, we gain insights into the complexities and nuances of transitioning cultures, including the disorienting feeling of having your worldview challenged and the importance of embracing the neutral zone, where growth, self-discovery, and meaningful goodbyes can take place.

So, join us on this engaging and thought-provoking episode as we explore the neutral zone and gain a deeper understanding of what it means to transition across cultures. Stay tuned for Part 2 and Part 3, where we delve even deeper into this fascinating topic.

Resources: 

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

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Timestamped Overview: 

[00:02:19] Big life events: graduation, marriage, death, birth, job changes, moving.

[00:06:24] Profound cultural differences lead to mismatched maps.

[00:08:42] Transition allows self-discovery without external validation.

[00:10:51] Presence of flesh, measuring spirituality, discomfort in missional setting.

[00:16:34] Travel transitions evoke a sense of detachment.

[00:17:59] Memorable bus ride to Mexico, contrasting journeys.

[00:22:02] Moving back home feels unfamiliar and chaotic.

[00:25:04] Uncertainty and disruption in work and finances.

Welcome back to another episode of traxcultures, the podcast that explores the challenges and experiences of transitioning across cultures. In this episode we continue our discussion with Stephen W. Jones and Jennie Jones as they delve into the anticipated endings they face as they prepare to move to Berlin.

Stephen and Jennie follow an exercise from Stephen's book, "Transitions Across Cultures," which encourages individuals to list the things that will be left behind as they embark on a new cultural journey. As Mike leads the conversation, we glimpse the range of emotions and challenges they face. From the loss of easy communication with family and friends to the familiar sights and smells of their current surroundings, Stephen and Jennie share their perspectives on what it means to say goodbye to certain aspects of their lives.

This thought-provoking conversation will resonate with cross-cultural travelers, expats, and anyone navigating the process of starting anew in a different culture.

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

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 Timestamped Overview: 

[00:03:22] Being accessible to family despite distance.

[00:07:36] Familiar walks by the changing riverside seasons.

[00:10:09] Ending pattern, pandemic changes everything forever.

[00:14:03] Special eye issues; need to communicate effectively.

[00:16:43] Unexpected move to small town hinders involvement.

[00:20:41] Eye doctor, urgent care; feeling like outsiders.

[00:23:09] Acknowledging loss and giving space for sadness.

[00:25:16] Challenges and guilt when saying goodbyes.

Brief Description

Welcome back to traxcultures,"the podcast where we explore the intersection of faith, art, and culture in the context of transitioning from one culture to another. I'm your host, Mike Picconatto, and today we continue our three-part series on "Beginning with the Endings." In our last episode, we delved into the importance of endings as we navigate through life's transitions.

In today's episode, we'll hear from Jennie and Stephen as they share their experiences and insights on how their friends and family reacted to their upcoming transition. We'll also explore the complex emotions and challenges during this period of uncertainty and disconnection known as the Neutral Zone.

We will be viewing the upheaval in their life through the lens of Stephen’s book, Transitions Across Cultures and his Cross Cultural Transition Handbook.

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

Disclaimer

Patreon:

To join our Patreon, click here.

Transcripts are available for free on Patreon.

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Timestamped Overview:  

[00:01:49] Long process of uncertainty and changing relationships.

[00:06:34] Moving to Minnesota brought new opportunities.

[00:10:58] Office move brings unexpected endings and reflection.

[00:15:35] Intentional garden welcomes pollinators, surprises with dandelions.

[00:19:20] Transitioning to a weird neutral zone, friendships uncertain.

[00:23:46] Early struggle, outsider now, enjoyed discussing.

[00:27:03] COVID complicates family relationships; navigating pandemic precautions.

[00:28:40] Family bonds strengthen through isolation and support.

Originally recorded on May 31st, 2021, this episode is a legacy from our previous podcast, "Unterwegs, the En Route podcast," which we're now reorganizing for your convenience.

Stephen and Jenny share their personal experiences as they prepare to uproot their lives and move with their family to Berlin, Germany, to join the staff of Envision Berlin.

Their discussions revolve around Stephen's book, "Transitions Across Cultures," and his Cross Cultural Transition Handbook. In today's episode, they explore the discomfort of the transition zone, the significance of acknowledging endings, and the potential consequences of missed opportunities.

Join us as we delve into the complexities of cross-cultural transitions and discover the impact of beginnings rooted in endings.

Links:

Resources from this episode:

Information on Stephen Jones.

Videos and other traXcultures resources.

Follow Stephen and Jennie on Instagram: @thejonesesinberlin

Visit liminal edges on Instagram: @liminal_edges

Contact Envision Berlin about customizing the Cross-Cultural Transitions Handbook for your cross-cultural ministry organization.

Credits:

Regular Theme music by Mike Picconatto

Unterwegs is recorded and produced by Envision Berlin

This episode was recorded, in part, on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).

Disclaimer

Patreon:

To join our Patreon, click here.

Transcripts are available for free on Patreon.

Join the conversation on Discord

Timestamped Overview: 

[00:01:49] In transitions, focus on endings before new beginnings. The uncomfortable neutral zone is important. Rushing through can cause difficulties.

[00:05:07] Unforeseen and anticipated endings in transition.

[00:08:26] Not saying goodbye causes missed opportunities, relational damage, and unresolved loss.

[00:12:05] Leaving brings safety, allowing for getting to know without long-term risk. Pay attention to unnoticed endings, like not knowing practical tasks. Feeling competent now, but losing identity in the process.

[00:16:40] The speaker discusses feeling disconnected from oneself and their surroundings due to ongoing changes. Normal patterns, including eating, have been disrupted. The situation is still unresolved.

[00:20:03] Stephen and Jenie Jones discuss cultural transitions on traxcultures