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        <description>Too Big To Fail: Stories from the Front Lines.

This podcast, originally for internal ears only, proved too significant not to release to the public. &quot;Too Big To Fail&quot; is more than a title; it&#039;s a testament to our dedication to shaping a brighter future, not just for our incredible team, but for the communities we serve. This isn&#039;t solely about business; it&#039;s about creating a profound and positive impact.

We&#039;re inviting you behind the scenes to meet the people who make it all happen. You&#039;ll hear compelling stories from every corner of our organization, including:

Field Superintendents &amp; Foremen: The boots on the ground, sharing their experiences from the field.

Project Management&#039;s &quot;Glue Guys&quot;: The masters of efficiency, fitting in last-second change orders and keeping projects on track.

Estimators: The meticulous minds grinding out bids and cultivating vital relationships across the real estate value chain.

Tune in to discover our proven approach and the values that embody The Moss Way.</description>
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                <itunes:subtitle>Too Big To Fail: Stories from the Front Lines.

This podcast, originally for internal ears only, proved too significant not to release to the public. &quot;Too Big To Fail&quot; is more than a title; it&#039;s a testament to our dedication to shaping a brighter future, not just for our incredible team, but for the communities we serve. This isn&#039;t solely about business; it&#039;s about creating a profound and positive impact.

We&#039;re inviting you behind the scenes to meet the people who make it all happen. You&#039;ll hear compelling stories from every corner of our organization, including:

Field Superintendents &amp; Foremen: The boots on the ground, sharing their experiences from the field.

Project Management&#039;s &quot;Glue Guys&quot;: The masters of efficiency, fitting in last-second change orders and keeping projects on track.

Estimators: The meticulous minds grinding out bids and cultivating vital relationships across the real estate value chain.

Tune in to discover our proven approach and the values that embody The Moss Way.</itunes:subtitle>
        <itunes:author>Angel Tavera</itunes:author>
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        <itunes:summary>Too Big To Fail: Stories from the Front Lines.

This podcast, originally for internal ears only, proved too significant not to release to the public. &quot;Too Big To Fail&quot; is more than a title; it&#039;s a testament to our dedication to shaping a brighter future, not just for our incredible team, but for the communities we serve. This isn&#039;t solely about business; it&#039;s about creating a profound and positive impact.

We&#039;re inviting you behind the scenes to meet the people who make it all happen. You&#039;ll hear compelling stories from every corner of our organization, including:

Field Superintendents &amp; Foremen: The boots on the ground, sharing their experiences from the field.

Project Management&#039;s &quot;Glue Guys&quot;: The masters of efficiency, fitting in last-second change orders and keeping projects on track.

Estimators: The meticulous minds grinding out bids and cultivating vital relationships across the real estate value chain.

Tune in to discover our proven approach and the values that embody The Moss Way.</itunes:summary>
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                    <![CDATA[Too Big To Fail: Season 2 Episode 1 | The Making of Moss Built]]>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 19:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>This episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast features a conversation with Wes Esquivel, the Craft Development Manager who is focused on one of the most critical challenges in construction today: developing the next generation of talent. Sitting down with host Angel Tavera, Wes breaks down what it really means to build a company that doesn’t just grow, but scales.</p>
<p>Wes makes it clear Moss Utilities isn’t just hiring to keep up, it’s intentionally creating future leaders. In an industry where companies often try to “buy” experienced superintendents and foremen, Wes explains why that model falls short. Moss is focused on developing its own people, training them, investing in them, and preparing them to lead the company forward the Moss way.</p>
<p>Wes challenges employees at every level to take control of their growth, encouraging them to speak up, ask for more responsibilities and adopt a true growth mindset. He contrasts the traditional construction mentality of “wait your turn” with a more intentional, accelerated approach: clear development plans, defined timelines, and measurable progress toward leadership roles. When a company is growing as fast as Moss, the demand for leaders can’t wait. Wes shares real examples like needing to hire multiple foremen on the spot and explains why having trained, ready-to-go leaders internally is a game changer. The goal is simple: have people lined up saying, “Put me in the game, coach. I’m ready.” At its core, this episode of Too Big To Fail is about building people. Wes emphasizes that true development goes beyond technical skills it’s about growing both personally and professionally. Through structured programs, intentional mentorship, and a culture that pushes individuals to be better every day, Moss is creating a pipeline of leaders who are prepared not just to do the job but to lead teams, shape culture, and drive the company forward.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - How to Become a Construction Foreman</li><li>(00:00:43) - Wes is a fancy name</li><li>(00:01:12) - Looking to Grow at Moss?</li><li>(00:03:42) - Moss Utilities: Developing a Foreman for 2030</li><li>(00:06:03) - How under appreciated is construction in the United States?</li><li>(00:11:17) - The value of a job</li><li>(00:12:11) - Moss Utilities, Skill Craft Development, Leadership</li><li>(00:14:51) - Superintendents: Being a Leader</li><li>(00:19:56) - Focus on the People</li><li>(00:21:15) - Sam Harris on Getting Smoss Built</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast features a conversation with Wes Esquivel, the Craft Development Manager who is focused on one of the most critical challenges in construction today: developing the next generation of talent. Sitting down with host Angel Tavera, Wes breaks down what it really means to build a company that doesn’t just grow, but scales.
Wes makes it clear Moss Utilities isn’t just hiring to keep up, it’s intentionally creating future leaders. In an industry where companies often try to “buy” experienced superintendents and foremen, Wes explains why that model falls short. Moss is focused on developing its own people, training them, investing in them, and preparing them to lead the company forward the Moss way.
Wes challenges employees at every level to take control of their growth, encouraging them to speak up, ask for more responsibilities and adopt a true growth mindset. He contrasts the traditional construction mentality of “wait your turn” with a more intentional, accelerated approach: clear development plans, defined timelines, and measurable progress toward leadership roles. When a company is growing as fast as Moss, the demand for leaders can’t wait. Wes shares real examples like needing to hire multiple foremen on the spot and explains why having trained, ready-to-go leaders internally is a game changer. The goal is simple: have people lined up saying, “Put me in the game, coach. I’m ready.” At its core, this episode of Too Big To Fail is about building people. Wes emphasizes that true development goes beyond technical skills it’s about growing both personally and professionally. Through structured programs, intentional mentorship, and a culture that pushes individuals to be better every day, Moss is creating a pipeline of leaders who are prepared not just to do the job but to lead teams, shape culture, and drive the company forward.]]>
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<p>Wes makes it clear Moss Utilities isn’t just hiring to keep up, it’s intentionally creating future leaders. In an industry where companies often try to “buy” experienced superintendents and foremen, Wes explains why that model falls short. Moss is focused on developing its own people, training them, investing in them, and preparing them to lead the company forward the Moss way.</p>
<p>Wes challenges employees at every level to take control of their growth, encouraging them to speak up, ask for more responsibilities and adopt a true growth mindset. He contrasts the traditional construction mentality of “wait your turn” with a more intentional, accelerated approach: clear development plans, defined timelines, and measurable progress toward leadership roles. When a company is growing as fast as Moss, the demand for leaders can’t wait. Wes shares real examples like needing to hire multiple foremen on the spot and explains why having trained, ready-to-go leaders internally is a game changer. The goal is simple: have people lined up saying, “Put me in the game, coach. I’m ready.” At its core, this episode of Too Big To Fail is about building people. Wes emphasizes that true development goes beyond technical skills it’s about growing both personally and professionally. Through structured programs, intentional mentorship, and a culture that pushes individuals to be better every day, Moss is creating a pipeline of leaders who are prepared not just to do the job but to lead teams, shape culture, and drive the company forward.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast features a conversation with Wes Esquivel, the Craft Development Manager who is focused on one of the most critical challenges in construction today: developing the next generation of talent. Sitting down with host Angel Tavera, Wes breaks down what it really means to build a company that doesn’t just grow, but scales.
Wes makes it clear Moss Utilities isn’t just hiring to keep up, it’s intentionally creating future leaders. In an industry where companies often try to “buy” experienced superintendents and foremen, Wes explains why that model falls short. Moss is focused on developing its own people, training them, investing in them, and preparing them to lead the company forward the Moss way.
Wes challenges employees at every level to take control of their growth, encouraging them to speak up, ask for more responsibilities and adopt a true growth mindset. He contrasts the traditional construction mentality of “wait your turn” with a more intentional, accelerated approach: clear development plans, defined timelines, and measurable progress toward leadership roles. When a company is growing as fast as Moss, the demand for leaders can’t wait. Wes shares real examples like needing to hire multiple foremen on the spot and explains why having trained, ready-to-go leaders internally is a game changer. The goal is simple: have people lined up saying, “Put me in the game, coach. I’m ready.” At its core, this episode of Too Big To Fail is about building people. Wes emphasizes that true development goes beyond technical skills it’s about growing both personally and professionally. Through structured programs, intentional mentorship, and a culture that pushes individuals to be better every day, Moss is creating a pipeline of leaders who are prepared not just to do the job but to lead teams, shape culture, and drive the company forward.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[14. The Right-Of-Way Rodeo with April Seleska]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2025 18:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>This episode of Too Big to Fail features a detailed and inspiring conversation with host Angel Tavera and guest Senior Project Manager April Seleska, providing a raw look at her climb to leadership, the challenges of high-profile utility projects, and the dedication required to succeed as a woman in construction. April's journey is far from typical. It begins in the competitive world of Texas rodeo, where she was an active barrel racer until 2013, a background that forged her relentless work ethic.</p>
<p>Her professional career saw her make significant pivots: from early jobs managing a barn and working in a cleaners, she transitioned into a plumbing business, then spent a decade in IT at AutoNation. When she returned to construction, she dove into utility work with a "baptism by fire" mentality, learning the complexities of the industry by sheer will and determination. Her ascent to Senior Project Manager at Moss Utilities is a testament to her capabilities. April details the extraordinary responsibility that comes with the role, which previously included not just project management but also overseeing billings, accounts receivable, collections, and even coordinating company events.</p>
<p>She emphasizes that her success is built on humility—never being afraid to ask questions—and mutual respect, which is the foundation of her strong relationships with field superintendents like Julio and Jose. A key focus is the management of high-profile data center projects, which she is frequently trusted with. April explains the massive impact of these jobs, noting the unprecedented safety requirements and the operational challenges of handling plans that are "ever-changing." She stresses the need for constant, meticulous engagement, detailing her process of marking up plans daily based on field reports to avoid costly mistakes like installing the wrong-sized pipe.</p>
<p>Ultimately, April's story is one of fierce dedication, setting an incredible example, and finding the necessary work-life balance after years of intense commitment.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Former Moss County Horseman</li><li>(00:00:29) - A message for women in construction</li><li>(00:01:23) - Workaholics: China Spring and More</li><li>(00:03:11) - Tyler Wade on His Hobby</li><li>(00:05:15) - Moss Community Clay Shooting</li><li>(00:07:48) - Work Experience in Construction</li><li>(00:12:12) - Moss Utilities: A Different Culture</li><li>(00:15:24) - A message about the field</li><li>(00:17:15) - Jose Rodriguez on Julio's</li><li>(00:19:28) - Data Centers: Safety Standards</li><li>(00:22:36) - Know Where the Pipe Is at on a Job</li><li>(00:24:26) - Pushing the Data Center Through Rogers O'Brien</li><li>(00:25:55) - Meet the Women in Construction</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of Too Big to Fail features a detailed and inspiring conversation with host Angel Tavera and guest Senior Project Manager April Seleska, providing a raw look at her climb to leadership, the challenges of high-profile utility projects, and the dedication required to succeed as a woman in construction. April's journey is far from typical. It begins in the competitive world of Texas rodeo, where she was an active barrel racer until 2013, a background that forged her relentless work ethic.
Her professional career saw her make significant pivots: from early jobs managing a barn and working in a cleaners, she transitioned into a plumbing business, then spent a decade in IT at AutoNation. When she returned to construction, she dove into utility work with a "baptism by fire" mentality, learning the complexities of the industry by sheer will and determination. Her ascent to Senior Project Manager at Moss Utilities is a testament to her capabilities. April details the extraordinary responsibility that comes with the role, which previously included not just project management but also overseeing billings, accounts receivable, collections, and even coordinating company events.
She emphasizes that her success is built on humility—never being afraid to ask questions—and mutual respect, which is the foundation of her strong relationships with field superintendents like Julio and Jose. A key focus is the management of high-profile data center projects, which she is frequently trusted with. April explains the massive impact of these jobs, noting the unprecedented safety requirements and the operational challenges of handling plans that are "ever-changing." She stresses the need for constant, meticulous engagement, detailing her process of marking up plans daily based on field reports to avoid costly mistakes like installing the wrong-sized pipe.
Ultimately, April's story is one of fierce dedication, setting an incredible example, and finding the necessary work-life balance after years of intense commitment.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[14. The Right-Of-Way Rodeo with April Seleska]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>This episode of Too Big to Fail features a detailed and inspiring conversation with host Angel Tavera and guest Senior Project Manager April Seleska, providing a raw look at her climb to leadership, the challenges of high-profile utility projects, and the dedication required to succeed as a woman in construction. April's journey is far from typical. It begins in the competitive world of Texas rodeo, where she was an active barrel racer until 2013, a background that forged her relentless work ethic.</p>
<p>Her professional career saw her make significant pivots: from early jobs managing a barn and working in a cleaners, she transitioned into a plumbing business, then spent a decade in IT at AutoNation. When she returned to construction, she dove into utility work with a "baptism by fire" mentality, learning the complexities of the industry by sheer will and determination. Her ascent to Senior Project Manager at Moss Utilities is a testament to her capabilities. April details the extraordinary responsibility that comes with the role, which previously included not just project management but also overseeing billings, accounts receivable, collections, and even coordinating company events.</p>
<p>She emphasizes that her success is built on humility—never being afraid to ask questions—and mutual respect, which is the foundation of her strong relationships with field superintendents like Julio and Jose. A key focus is the management of high-profile data center projects, which she is frequently trusted with. April explains the massive impact of these jobs, noting the unprecedented safety requirements and the operational challenges of handling plans that are "ever-changing." She stresses the need for constant, meticulous engagement, detailing her process of marking up plans daily based on field reports to avoid costly mistakes like installing the wrong-sized pipe.</p>
<p>Ultimately, April's story is one of fierce dedication, setting an incredible example, and finding the necessary work-life balance after years of intense commitment.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of Too Big to Fail features a detailed and inspiring conversation with host Angel Tavera and guest Senior Project Manager April Seleska, providing a raw look at her climb to leadership, the challenges of high-profile utility projects, and the dedication required to succeed as a woman in construction. April's journey is far from typical. It begins in the competitive world of Texas rodeo, where she was an active barrel racer until 2013, a background that forged her relentless work ethic.
Her professional career saw her make significant pivots: from early jobs managing a barn and working in a cleaners, she transitioned into a plumbing business, then spent a decade in IT at AutoNation. When she returned to construction, she dove into utility work with a "baptism by fire" mentality, learning the complexities of the industry by sheer will and determination. Her ascent to Senior Project Manager at Moss Utilities is a testament to her capabilities. April details the extraordinary responsibility that comes with the role, which previously included not just project management but also overseeing billings, accounts receivable, collections, and even coordinating company events.
She emphasizes that her success is built on humility—never being afraid to ask questions—and mutual respect, which is the foundation of her strong relationships with field superintendents like Julio and Jose. A key focus is the management of high-profile data center projects, which she is frequently trusted with. April explains the massive impact of these jobs, noting the unprecedented safety requirements and the operational challenges of handling plans that are "ever-changing." She stresses the need for constant, meticulous engagement, detailing her process of marking up plans daily based on field reports to avoid costly mistakes like installing the wrong-sized pipe.
Ultimately, April's story is one of fierce dedication, setting an incredible example, and finding the necessary work-life balance after years of intense commitment.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[13. Building Your Own Path with Chief Strategy Officer Kelly Roberts]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 20:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>This episode of Too Big to Fail delivers a gripping, no-holds-barred account of how Moss Utilities stared down catastrophe and emerged as a wet utilities powerhouse. Host Angel Tavera sits down with Kelly Roberts, the company's Chief Strategy Officer (and CEO of Moss Heating &amp; Cooling), for an intimate look at the true cost of scaling a business and the ultimate commitment to its people.</p>
<p>Kelly reveals the high-stakes reality of the company's near-collapse in 2020. She details the desperate financial situation where lenders and vendors had abandoned them, forcing the leadership team to confront the possibility of bankruptcy. Kelly recounts the crucial moment she implemented the Work In Progress (WIP) schedule, which exposed deep, previously hidden financial hemorrhaging. Her subsequent work, coupled with CEO Garrett Moss's unwavering, "crazy" positivity, secured government lifelines (PPP/EIDL loans) and a vital banking partnership, paving the way for one of construction's most impressive turnarounds.</p>
<p>The podcast then shifts to the company's future vision. Kelly unpacks the philosophy behind the podcast's title, explaining that "Too Big to Fail" is a solemn vow: with 500 employee lives depending on Moss, failure is not an option. She provides the definitive explanation for the recent implementation of the Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), emphasizing that Garrett chose this path—despite advice to pick a more profitable exit—to ensure long-term retirement security for every single employee, especially the field crews. Finally, Kelly outlines her strategic vision, detailing new initiatives like the Talent Acquisition Manager and the Culture Index to ensure Moss continues its rapid, yet sustainable, growth toward its audacious $250 million goal by putting the right people in the right seats. This conversation is mandatory listening for anyone looking to understand the core values, relentless drive, and profound loyalty that defines Moss Utilities.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) -  Garrett's Giving Back to the Company</li><li>(00:00:59) - John Moss on Too Big to Fail</li><li>(00:02:24) - How I Met My Husband at Moss Utilities</li><li>(00:08:23) - What is the Purpose of MOSS?</li><li>(00:09:05) - Moss Utilities Project Manager on Women in Construction</li><li>(00:12:41) - The Pain of Bankruptcy</li><li>(00:19:05) - Moss Utilities: Garrett's Core Value</li><li>(00:24:19) - Moss Utilities Employee ESOP</li><li>(00:29:37) - When You Need to Step Down as CFO</li><li>(00:33:55) - Moss Utilities Needs a Talent Acquisition Manager</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of Too Big to Fail delivers a gripping, no-holds-barred account of how Moss Utilities stared down catastrophe and emerged as a wet utilities powerhouse. Host Angel Tavera sits down with Kelly Roberts, the company's Chief Strategy Officer (and CEO of Moss Heating & Cooling), for an intimate look at the true cost of scaling a business and the ultimate commitment to its people.
Kelly reveals the high-stakes reality of the company's near-collapse in 2020. She details the desperate financial situation where lenders and vendors had abandoned them, forcing the leadership team to confront the possibility of bankruptcy. Kelly recounts the crucial moment she implemented the Work In Progress (WIP) schedule, which exposed deep, previously hidden financial hemorrhaging. Her subsequent work, coupled with CEO Garrett Moss's unwavering, "crazy" positivity, secured government lifelines (PPP/EIDL loans) and a vital banking partnership, paving the way for one of construction's most impressive turnarounds.
The podcast then shifts to the company's future vision. Kelly unpacks the philosophy behind the podcast's title, explaining that "Too Big to Fail" is a solemn vow: with 500 employee lives depending on Moss, failure is not an option. She provides the definitive explanation for the recent implementation of the Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), emphasizing that Garrett chose this path—despite advice to pick a more profitable exit—to ensure long-term retirement security for every single employee, especially the field crews. Finally, Kelly outlines her strategic vision, detailing new initiatives like the Talent Acquisition Manager and the Culture Index to ensure Moss continues its rapid, yet sustainable, growth toward its audacious $250 million goal by putting the right people in the right seats. This conversation is mandatory listening for anyone looking to understand the core values, relentless drive, and profound loyalty that defines Moss Utilities.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>This episode of Too Big to Fail delivers a gripping, no-holds-barred account of how Moss Utilities stared down catastrophe and emerged as a wet utilities powerhouse. Host Angel Tavera sits down with Kelly Roberts, the company's Chief Strategy Officer (and CEO of Moss Heating &amp; Cooling), for an intimate look at the true cost of scaling a business and the ultimate commitment to its people.</p>
<p>Kelly reveals the high-stakes reality of the company's near-collapse in 2020. She details the desperate financial situation where lenders and vendors had abandoned them, forcing the leadership team to confront the possibility of bankruptcy. Kelly recounts the crucial moment she implemented the Work In Progress (WIP) schedule, which exposed deep, previously hidden financial hemorrhaging. Her subsequent work, coupled with CEO Garrett Moss's unwavering, "crazy" positivity, secured government lifelines (PPP/EIDL loans) and a vital banking partnership, paving the way for one of construction's most impressive turnarounds.</p>
<p>The podcast then shifts to the company's future vision. Kelly unpacks the philosophy behind the podcast's title, explaining that "Too Big to Fail" is a solemn vow: with 500 employee lives depending on Moss, failure is not an option. She provides the definitive explanation for the recent implementation of the Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), emphasizing that Garrett chose this path—despite advice to pick a more profitable exit—to ensure long-term retirement security for every single employee, especially the field crews. Finally, Kelly outlines her strategic vision, detailing new initiatives like the Talent Acquisition Manager and the Culture Index to ensure Moss continues its rapid, yet sustainable, growth toward its audacious $250 million goal by putting the right people in the right seats. This conversation is mandatory listening for anyone looking to understand the core values, relentless drive, and profound loyalty that defines Moss Utilities.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of Too Big to Fail delivers a gripping, no-holds-barred account of how Moss Utilities stared down catastrophe and emerged as a wet utilities powerhouse. Host Angel Tavera sits down with Kelly Roberts, the company's Chief Strategy Officer (and CEO of Moss Heating & Cooling), for an intimate look at the true cost of scaling a business and the ultimate commitment to its people.
Kelly reveals the high-stakes reality of the company's near-collapse in 2020. She details the desperate financial situation where lenders and vendors had abandoned them, forcing the leadership team to confront the possibility of bankruptcy. Kelly recounts the crucial moment she implemented the Work In Progress (WIP) schedule, which exposed deep, previously hidden financial hemorrhaging. Her subsequent work, coupled with CEO Garrett Moss's unwavering, "crazy" positivity, secured government lifelines (PPP/EIDL loans) and a vital banking partnership, paving the way for one of construction's most impressive turnarounds.
The podcast then shifts to the company's future vision. Kelly unpacks the philosophy behind the podcast's title, explaining that "Too Big to Fail" is a solemn vow: with 500 employee lives depending on Moss, failure is not an option. She provides the definitive explanation for the recent implementation of the Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), emphasizing that Garrett chose this path—despite advice to pick a more profitable exit—to ensure long-term retirement security for every single employee, especially the field crews. Finally, Kelly outlines her strategic vision, detailing new initiatives like the Talent Acquisition Manager and the Culture Index to ensure Moss continues its rapid, yet sustainable, growth toward its audacious $250 million goal by putting the right people in the right seats. This conversation is mandatory listening for anyone looking to understand the core values, relentless drive, and profound loyalty that defines Moss Utilities.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[12. The "Moss U" Experience with Landon Huddleston]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 15:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://too-big-to-fail.castos.com/episodes/12-the-moss-u-experience-with-landon-huddleston</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, Assistant Project Manager Landon Huddleston discusses his experience as a candidate in the Moss U program. Landon shares his journey from high school, finding welding wasn't a fit due to health issues, to discovering the Moss U program via LinkedIn. He was working for his dad as a field engineer but felt "stagnant" with no room for growth.</p>
<p>Despite initial hesitation, a tour of the facility, its benefits, and seeing happy employees convinced him to join. The Moss U program, a new pipeline for people with little to no experience, is set up with rotations to explore different aspects of the company. Landon's first four-month rotation was in the field, starting at the massive Universal project. He was impressed by the project's scale and realized the job was "a lot bigger than just putting pipe in the ground". He praises Superintendent Cristian's dedication, noting Cristian's commitment to the project and his people, even jumping into an excavator to keep the crew on schedule . Landon was humbled seeing the field crews "bust their butt every day" and found a welcoming, family environment.</p>
<p>This experience proved invaluable, giving him a greater understanding of installation that can't be gained from computer plans alone. Landon's next rotation was in estimating. Despite having no prior experience, he was eager to learn. The rotation involved takeoffs and assisting estimators who taught him about key details that affect bids, like trench safety and inspections . Landon learned there were "a whole lot more moving parts" and costs involved than he previously thought.</p>
<p>He appreciated the perspective that estimators are the "hunter," project managers "cook the meal," and superintendents "serve the meal". He highlights the humility and willingness of senior staff like Edwin and John to teach and pour their knowledge into the Moss U candidates. The final rotation was in project management, where Landon "truly fell in love" with the work. Working with Ryan McBride, he learned the complex moving parts of the role, including permits, change orders, and RFIs . He found Ryan and others willing to confidently help him . The bi-weekly presentations, covering topics like bonds and contracts, also helped candidates digest information and ask questions . The Moss U program was ultimately "proven," and Landon successfully transitioned into a full-time Assistant Project Manager role, with his combined rotation knowledge being "super beneficial" . He views the program, which culminates in a full-time role, as "unheard of" and "truly special".</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Moss U: The Field Experience</li><li>(00:01:14) - Moss Utilities: Too Big to Fail</li><li>(00:02:19) - Nebraska State Community College Student Garrett</li><li>(00:04:26) - How to transition out of welding into construction management</li><li>(00:06:11) - The Process of Interviewing at Moss Construction</li><li>(00:08:30) - Moss Utilities Recruitment</li><li>(00:09:03) - What a Superintendent Did For Universal Studios</li><li>(00:12:09) - MASI Program Participants on a Construction Job</li><li>(00:15:24) - Working with Giovani on his first rotation</li><li>(00:16:24) - Back in the Field With Jose Castillo</li><li>(00:20:54) - Retired San Luis County Superintendents talk</li><li>(00:22:03) - Do estimators need to work in the field?</li><li>(00:26:22) - John and Edwin on Working With the Insiders</li><li>(00:28:46) - Project Management Rotation</li><li>(00:30:36) - Interviews: Moss U Presentations</li><li>(00:36:58) - Moss U Project Manager Transition</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, Assistant Project Manager Landon Huddleston discusses his experience as a candidate in the Moss U program. Landon shares his journey from high school, finding welding wasn't a fit due to health issues, to discovering the Moss U program via LinkedIn. He was working for his dad as a field engineer but felt "stagnant" with no room for growth.
Despite initial hesitation, a tour of the facility, its benefits, and seeing happy employees convinced him to join. The Moss U program, a new pipeline for people with little to no experience, is set up with rotations to explore different aspects of the company. Landon's first four-month rotation was in the field, starting at the massive Universal project. He was impressed by the project's scale and realized the job was "a lot bigger than just putting pipe in the ground". He praises Superintendent Cristian's dedication, noting Cristian's commitment to the project and his people, even jumping into an excavator to keep the crew on schedule . Landon was humbled seeing the field crews "bust their butt every day" and found a welcoming, family environment.
This experience proved invaluable, giving him a greater understanding of installation that can't be gained from computer plans alone. Landon's next rotation was in estimating. Despite having no prior experience, he was eager to learn. The rotation involved takeoffs and assisting estimators who taught him about key details that affect bids, like trench safety and inspections . Landon learned there were "a whole lot more moving parts" and costs involved than he previously thought.
He appreciated the perspective that estimators are the "hunter," project managers "cook the meal," and superintendents "serve the meal". He highlights the humility and willingness of senior staff like Edwin and John to teach and pour their knowledge into the Moss U candidates. The final rotation was in project management, where Landon "truly fell in love" with the work. Working with Ryan McBride, he learned the complex moving parts of the role, including permits, change orders, and RFIs . He found Ryan and others willing to confidently help him . The bi-weekly presentations, covering topics like bonds and contracts, also helped candidates digest information and ask questions . The Moss U program was ultimately "proven," and Landon successfully transitioned into a full-time Assistant Project Manager role, with his combined rotation knowledge being "super beneficial" . He views the program, which culminates in a full-time role, as "unheard of" and "truly special".]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[12. The "Moss U" Experience with Landon Huddleston]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, Assistant Project Manager Landon Huddleston discusses his experience as a candidate in the Moss U program. Landon shares his journey from high school, finding welding wasn't a fit due to health issues, to discovering the Moss U program via LinkedIn. He was working for his dad as a field engineer but felt "stagnant" with no room for growth.</p>
<p>Despite initial hesitation, a tour of the facility, its benefits, and seeing happy employees convinced him to join. The Moss U program, a new pipeline for people with little to no experience, is set up with rotations to explore different aspects of the company. Landon's first four-month rotation was in the field, starting at the massive Universal project. He was impressed by the project's scale and realized the job was "a lot bigger than just putting pipe in the ground". He praises Superintendent Cristian's dedication, noting Cristian's commitment to the project and his people, even jumping into an excavator to keep the crew on schedule . Landon was humbled seeing the field crews "bust their butt every day" and found a welcoming, family environment.</p>
<p>This experience proved invaluable, giving him a greater understanding of installation that can't be gained from computer plans alone. Landon's next rotation was in estimating. Despite having no prior experience, he was eager to learn. The rotation involved takeoffs and assisting estimators who taught him about key details that affect bids, like trench safety and inspections . Landon learned there were "a whole lot more moving parts" and costs involved than he previously thought.</p>
<p>He appreciated the perspective that estimators are the "hunter," project managers "cook the meal," and superintendents "serve the meal". He highlights the humility and willingness of senior staff like Edwin and John to teach and pour their knowledge into the Moss U candidates. The final rotation was in project management, where Landon "truly fell in love" with the work. Working with Ryan McBride, he learned the complex moving parts of the role, including permits, change orders, and RFIs . He found Ryan and others willing to confidently help him . The bi-weekly presentations, covering topics like bonds and contracts, also helped candidates digest information and ask questions . The Moss U program was ultimately "proven," and Landon successfully transitioned into a full-time Assistant Project Manager role, with his combined rotation knowledge being "super beneficial" . He views the program, which culminates in a full-time role, as "unheard of" and "truly special".</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, Assistant Project Manager Landon Huddleston discusses his experience as a candidate in the Moss U program. Landon shares his journey from high school, finding welding wasn't a fit due to health issues, to discovering the Moss U program via LinkedIn. He was working for his dad as a field engineer but felt "stagnant" with no room for growth.
Despite initial hesitation, a tour of the facility, its benefits, and seeing happy employees convinced him to join. The Moss U program, a new pipeline for people with little to no experience, is set up with rotations to explore different aspects of the company. Landon's first four-month rotation was in the field, starting at the massive Universal project. He was impressed by the project's scale and realized the job was "a lot bigger than just putting pipe in the ground". He praises Superintendent Cristian's dedication, noting Cristian's commitment to the project and his people, even jumping into an excavator to keep the crew on schedule . Landon was humbled seeing the field crews "bust their butt every day" and found a welcoming, family environment.
This experience proved invaluable, giving him a greater understanding of installation that can't be gained from computer plans alone. Landon's next rotation was in estimating. Despite having no prior experience, he was eager to learn. The rotation involved takeoffs and assisting estimators who taught him about key details that affect bids, like trench safety and inspections . Landon learned there were "a whole lot more moving parts" and costs involved than he previously thought.
He appreciated the perspective that estimators are the "hunter," project managers "cook the meal," and superintendents "serve the meal". He highlights the humility and willingness of senior staff like Edwin and John to teach and pour their knowledge into the Moss U candidates. The final rotation was in project management, where Landon "truly fell in love" with the work. Working with Ryan McBride, he learned the complex moving parts of the role, including permits, change orders, and RFIs . He found Ryan and others willing to confidently help him . The bi-weekly presentations, covering topics like bonds and contracts, also helped candidates digest information and ask questions . The Moss U program was ultimately "proven," and Landon successfully transitioned into a full-time Assistant Project Manager role, with his combined rotation knowledge being "super beneficial" . He views the program, which culminates in a full-time role, as "unheard of" and "truly special".]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:42:00</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[11. Earning your Stripes with Juan Sanchez]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2025 04:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65629/episode/2154924</guid>
                                    <link>https://too-big-to-fail.castos.com/episodes/11-earning-your-stripes-with-juan-sanchez</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>This episode of "Too Big to Fail" features a detailed and inspiring conversation with Foreman <strong>Juan Sanchez</strong>, providing a raw look at what it takes to climb the ranks in the utility construction industry.</p>
<p>Juan began his journey with Moss Utilities in <strong>November 2019</strong>, driven by a simple necessity: he needed a job that kept him close to his family after years of working out of state. He started as a <strong>laborer</strong>, admitting he "didn't know anything" about utilities, despite having a diverse background in landscaping, cooking, and general construction.</p>
<p>Juan's transition from the ground up was remarkably fast. He spent only about six months as a laborer, moved quickly to a helper role, and then became a <strong>pipe layer</strong>. Significantly, he mentions that the chance to become an equipment operator was <strong>"skipped"</strong> for him, underscoring that his value was quickly seen in his leadership and piping skills, not just machine operation. By the time of the podcast, he had been a <strong>Foreman for four years</strong>.</p>
<p>Juan is candid about the massive stress and comprehensive responsibility that comes with being a foreman. He defines the role as managing <strong>"the quality of the work, production, and safety"</strong> from the moment he wakes up until he returns home, noting that he is often still planning the next day's work while sleeping.</p>
<p>He recounts the nervousness he felt accepting the promotion, telling his superiors that if he failed, he was ready to return to his old job as a pipe layer. This honesty reveals the intense pressure to succeed in a leadership position.</p>
<p>Juan has been a firsthand witness to Moss Utilities' massive growth, recalling the early days when the company was housed in a much <strong>smaller, more reduced office</strong> with less equipment.</p>
<p>One of the most powerful elements of his story is the company culture. Juan, who has no immediate family in the area, expresses deep gratitude that his promotion was based entirely on his <strong>dedication, effort, and hard work</strong>, stating that he didn't reach his position due to a friend or relative. He notes that the company's commitment to its employees is special, citing the fact that the company ensures everyone receives something for Christmas and is recognized as more than "just a number."</p>
<p>The decision to make him a foreman came directly from a discussion with <strong>Parker</strong> (COO Parker Thane) after Juan asked for a raise, acknowledging that he had hit the limit for his current role and needed to "climb higher."</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This episode of "Too Big to Fail" features a detailed and inspiring conversation with Foreman Juan Sanchez, providing a raw look at what it takes to climb the ranks in the utility construction industry.
Juan began his journey with Moss Utilities in November 2019, driven by a simple necessity: he needed a job that kept him close to his family after years of working out of state. He started as a laborer, admitting he "didn't know anything" about utilities, despite having a diverse background in landscaping, cooking, and general construction.
Juan's transition from the ground up was remarkably fast. He spent only about six months as a laborer, moved quickly to a helper role, and then became a pipe layer. Significantly, he mentions that the chance to become an equipment operator was "skipped" for him, underscoring that his value was quickly seen in his leadership and piping skills, not just machine operation. By the time of the podcast, he had been a Foreman for four years.
Juan is candid about the massive stress and comprehensive responsibility that comes with being a foreman. He defines the role as managing "the quality of the work, production, and safety" from the moment he wakes up until he returns home, noting that he is often still planning the next day's work while sleeping.
He recounts the nervousness he felt accepting the promotion, telling his superiors that if he failed, he was ready to return to his old job as a pipe layer. This honesty reveals the intense pressure to succeed in a leadership position.
Juan has been a firsthand witness to Moss Utilities' massive growth, recalling the early days when the company was housed in a much smaller, more reduced office with less equipment.
One of the most powerful elements of his story is the company culture. Juan, who has no immediate family in the area, expresses deep gratitude that his promotion was based entirely on his dedication, effort, and hard work, stating that he didn't reach his position due to a friend or relative. He notes that the company's commitment to its employees is special, citing the fact that the company ensures everyone receives something for Christmas and is recognized as more than "just a number."
The decision to make him a foreman came directly from a discussion with Parker (COO Parker Thane) after Juan asked for a raise, acknowledging that he had hit the limit for his current role and needed to "climb higher."]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[11. Earning your Stripes with Juan Sanchez]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>This episode of "Too Big to Fail" features a detailed and inspiring conversation with Foreman <strong>Juan Sanchez</strong>, providing a raw look at what it takes to climb the ranks in the utility construction industry.</p>
<p>Juan began his journey with Moss Utilities in <strong>November 2019</strong>, driven by a simple necessity: he needed a job that kept him close to his family after years of working out of state. He started as a <strong>laborer</strong>, admitting he "didn't know anything" about utilities, despite having a diverse background in landscaping, cooking, and general construction.</p>
<p>Juan's transition from the ground up was remarkably fast. He spent only about six months as a laborer, moved quickly to a helper role, and then became a <strong>pipe layer</strong>. Significantly, he mentions that the chance to become an equipment operator was <strong>"skipped"</strong> for him, underscoring that his value was quickly seen in his leadership and piping skills, not just machine operation. By the time of the podcast, he had been a <strong>Foreman for four years</strong>.</p>
<p>Juan is candid about the massive stress and comprehensive responsibility that comes with being a foreman. He defines the role as managing <strong>"the quality of the work, production, and safety"</strong> from the moment he wakes up until he returns home, noting that he is often still planning the next day's work while sleeping.</p>
<p>He recounts the nervousness he felt accepting the promotion, telling his superiors that if he failed, he was ready to return to his old job as a pipe layer. This honesty reveals the intense pressure to succeed in a leadership position.</p>
<p>Juan has been a firsthand witness to Moss Utilities' massive growth, recalling the early days when the company was housed in a much <strong>smaller, more reduced office</strong> with less equipment.</p>
<p>One of the most powerful elements of his story is the company culture. Juan, who has no immediate family in the area, expresses deep gratitude that his promotion was based entirely on his <strong>dedication, effort, and hard work</strong>, stating that he didn't reach his position due to a friend or relative. He notes that the company's commitment to its employees is special, citing the fact that the company ensures everyone receives something for Christmas and is recognized as more than "just a number."</p>
<p>The decision to make him a foreman came directly from a discussion with <strong>Parker</strong> (COO Parker Thane) after Juan asked for a raise, acknowledging that he had hit the limit for his current role and needed to "climb higher."</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of "Too Big to Fail" features a detailed and inspiring conversation with Foreman Juan Sanchez, providing a raw look at what it takes to climb the ranks in the utility construction industry.
Juan began his journey with Moss Utilities in November 2019, driven by a simple necessity: he needed a job that kept him close to his family after years of working out of state. He started as a laborer, admitting he "didn't know anything" about utilities, despite having a diverse background in landscaping, cooking, and general construction.
Juan's transition from the ground up was remarkably fast. He spent only about six months as a laborer, moved quickly to a helper role, and then became a pipe layer. Significantly, he mentions that the chance to become an equipment operator was "skipped" for him, underscoring that his value was quickly seen in his leadership and piping skills, not just machine operation. By the time of the podcast, he had been a Foreman for four years.
Juan is candid about the massive stress and comprehensive responsibility that comes with being a foreman. He defines the role as managing "the quality of the work, production, and safety" from the moment he wakes up until he returns home, noting that he is often still planning the next day's work while sleeping.
He recounts the nervousness he felt accepting the promotion, telling his superiors that if he failed, he was ready to return to his old job as a pipe layer. This honesty reveals the intense pressure to succeed in a leadership position.
Juan has been a firsthand witness to Moss Utilities' massive growth, recalling the early days when the company was housed in a much smaller, more reduced office with less equipment.
One of the most powerful elements of his story is the company culture. Juan, who has no immediate family in the area, expresses deep gratitude that his promotion was based entirely on his dedication, effort, and hard work, stating that he didn't reach his position due to a friend or relative. He notes that the company's commitment to its employees is special, citing the fact that the company ensures everyone receives something for Christmas and is recognized as more than "just a number."
The decision to make him a foreman came directly from a discussion with Parker (COO Parker Thane) after Juan asked for a raise, acknowledging that he had hit the limit for his current role and needed to "climb higher."]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[10. Mr. Project Maverick with Jovanny Garcia]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2025 18:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65629/episode/2148978</guid>
                                    <link>https://too-big-to-fail.castos.com/episodes/10-mr-project-maverick-with-jovanny-garcia</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "Too Big to Fail," host Angel Tavern sits down with Superintendent Jovanny Garcia to discuss his incredible journey in the construction industry. From starting as a 14-year-old laborer to becoming a respected superintendent, Jovanny shares how hard work, perseverance, and a commitment to helping others shaped his career.</p>
<p>Jovanny opens up about the tough lessons he learned from his father and his early days working grueling summer jobs. He explains how he eventually transitioned from a laborer to a backfill operator and then to a foreman, a promotion he earned at just 22 years old. This role prepared him for the responsibilities of a superintendent, as he was already handling project coordination and communication with inspectors. He also reflects on some of the biggest challenges he's faced on the job, including a difficult but rewarding project in Grand Prairie and the massive, complex Project Maverick.</p>
<p>Jovanny emphasizes the importance of teamwork and shares why he prioritizes helping his fellow superintendents and younger crew members—a value he holds dear after facing negativity early in his career. This conversation highlights the values of Moss, the company Jovanny works for, emphasizing that employees are not just a number, but are listened to and valued. Jovanny's story is a testament to the power of a strong work ethic and the importance of a supportive company culture in building a successful career.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Superintendents on the Rock</li><li>(00:01:06) - Construction worker starts at 14 years old</li><li>(00:03:06) - How a Pipe Layer Man Became a Foreman</li><li>(00:05:49) - Supervisors at Moss Industries</li><li>(00:09:03) - Foreman on the Crews</li><li>(00:13:37) - Moss Water Company's Big Projects</li><li>(00:17:20) - How Construction Work Was Done on the Summer Cruise</li><li>(00:18:08) - Projects 6 and 7</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of "Too Big to Fail," host Angel Tavern sits down with Superintendent Jovanny Garcia to discuss his incredible journey in the construction industry. From starting as a 14-year-old laborer to becoming a respected superintendent, Jovanny shares how hard work, perseverance, and a commitment to helping others shaped his career.
Jovanny opens up about the tough lessons he learned from his father and his early days working grueling summer jobs. He explains how he eventually transitioned from a laborer to a backfill operator and then to a foreman, a promotion he earned at just 22 years old. This role prepared him for the responsibilities of a superintendent, as he was already handling project coordination and communication with inspectors. He also reflects on some of the biggest challenges he's faced on the job, including a difficult but rewarding project in Grand Prairie and the massive, complex Project Maverick.
Jovanny emphasizes the importance of teamwork and shares why he prioritizes helping his fellow superintendents and younger crew members—a value he holds dear after facing negativity early in his career. This conversation highlights the values of Moss, the company Jovanny works for, emphasizing that employees are not just a number, but are listened to and valued. Jovanny's story is a testament to the power of a strong work ethic and the importance of a supportive company culture in building a successful career.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[10. Mr. Project Maverick with Jovanny Garcia]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "Too Big to Fail," host Angel Tavern sits down with Superintendent Jovanny Garcia to discuss his incredible journey in the construction industry. From starting as a 14-year-old laborer to becoming a respected superintendent, Jovanny shares how hard work, perseverance, and a commitment to helping others shaped his career.</p>
<p>Jovanny opens up about the tough lessons he learned from his father and his early days working grueling summer jobs. He explains how he eventually transitioned from a laborer to a backfill operator and then to a foreman, a promotion he earned at just 22 years old. This role prepared him for the responsibilities of a superintendent, as he was already handling project coordination and communication with inspectors. He also reflects on some of the biggest challenges he's faced on the job, including a difficult but rewarding project in Grand Prairie and the massive, complex Project Maverick.</p>
<p>Jovanny emphasizes the importance of teamwork and shares why he prioritizes helping his fellow superintendents and younger crew members—a value he holds dear after facing negativity early in his career. This conversation highlights the values of Moss, the company Jovanny works for, emphasizing that employees are not just a number, but are listened to and valued. Jovanny's story is a testament to the power of a strong work ethic and the importance of a supportive company culture in building a successful career.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of "Too Big to Fail," host Angel Tavern sits down with Superintendent Jovanny Garcia to discuss his incredible journey in the construction industry. From starting as a 14-year-old laborer to becoming a respected superintendent, Jovanny shares how hard work, perseverance, and a commitment to helping others shaped his career.
Jovanny opens up about the tough lessons he learned from his father and his early days working grueling summer jobs. He explains how he eventually transitioned from a laborer to a backfill operator and then to a foreman, a promotion he earned at just 22 years old. This role prepared him for the responsibilities of a superintendent, as he was already handling project coordination and communication with inspectors. He also reflects on some of the biggest challenges he's faced on the job, including a difficult but rewarding project in Grand Prairie and the massive, complex Project Maverick.
Jovanny emphasizes the importance of teamwork and shares why he prioritizes helping his fellow superintendents and younger crew members—a value he holds dear after facing negativity early in his career. This conversation highlights the values of Moss, the company Jovanny works for, emphasizing that employees are not just a number, but are listened to and valued. Jovanny's story is a testament to the power of a strong work ethic and the importance of a supportive company culture in building a successful career.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:19:40</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[9. From Living Out of Hotel Rooms to COO: A Blue-Collar Backstory with Parker Thane]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 15:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p></p>
<p>Some people talk about their "career path." Our COO, <strong>Parker Thane</strong>, talks about the path he had to dig.</p>
<p>On this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, Parker shares a raw and unfiltered look at his journey. He reveals his life before Moss Utilities, detailing his high school struggles, an unconventional homeschool degree, and the moment he called his dad for a second chance after hitting rock bottom. It's a story of choosing to leave a troubled life behind and getting to work.</p>
<p>Parker takes us back to his start in the trades, from the labor-intensive work of his father's pool business—where he was paid by the job to move heavy coping and stone—to his first role as a laborer in utility construction. He recounts how his work ethic, forged by his father's tireless example, propelled him from the punch crew to foreman, then to superintendent, and eventually to COO. He shares candidly about the "hard years" of 2018-2019 and the deep-seated fear that the business might fail.</p>
<p>This isn't just a story of individual success; it's a blueprint for building a business on the right principles. Parker explains how Moss Utilities forged unbreakable partnerships with key clients like <strong>Pogue Construction</strong> and <strong>RPM xConstruction</strong> by simply sticking to their word, owning their mistakes, and consistently showing up. His journey is a testament to the power of perseverance, the importance of integrity, and the belief that true leadership is about more than a title.</p>
<p>Tune in to hear how this unwavering grit led Parker to a powerful partnership with founder <strong>Garrett Moss</strong>, and how that shared commitment became the foundation that makes Moss Utilities truly too big to fail.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - How construction helped get out of jail</li><li>(00:04:35) - Work for My Dad After Having A Baby</li><li>(00:07:07) - Worked on a construction crew for years</li><li>(00:09:21) - Punch Crews at Moss County Pipe Work</li><li>(00:12:42) - Garrett on Starting His Own Company</li><li>(00:13:56) - How a Superintendent helped grow the company</li><li>(00:17:50) - Tom Pogue on His Time at Disney</li><li>(00:20:08) - Pogue School Project and RPMX</li><li>(00:24:35) - GC team: Working together on the GC</li><li>(00:25:18) - Garrett on His Relationship with the Company</li><li>(00:27:38) - Moss on the mic</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[
Some people talk about their "career path." Our COO, Parker Thane, talks about the path he had to dig.
On this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, Parker shares a raw and unfiltered look at his journey. He reveals his life before Moss Utilities, detailing his high school struggles, an unconventional homeschool degree, and the moment he called his dad for a second chance after hitting rock bottom. It's a story of choosing to leave a troubled life behind and getting to work.
Parker takes us back to his start in the trades, from the labor-intensive work of his father's pool business—where he was paid by the job to move heavy coping and stone—to his first role as a laborer in utility construction. He recounts how his work ethic, forged by his father's tireless example, propelled him from the punch crew to foreman, then to superintendent, and eventually to COO. He shares candidly about the "hard years" of 2018-2019 and the deep-seated fear that the business might fail.
This isn't just a story of individual success; it's a blueprint for building a business on the right principles. Parker explains how Moss Utilities forged unbreakable partnerships with key clients like Pogue Construction and RPM xConstruction by simply sticking to their word, owning their mistakes, and consistently showing up. His journey is a testament to the power of perseverance, the importance of integrity, and the belief that true leadership is about more than a title.
Tune in to hear how this unwavering grit led Parker to a powerful partnership with founder Garrett Moss, and how that shared commitment became the foundation that makes Moss Utilities truly too big to fail.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[9. From Living Out of Hotel Rooms to COO: A Blue-Collar Backstory with Parker Thane]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p></p>
<p>Some people talk about their "career path." Our COO, <strong>Parker Thane</strong>, talks about the path he had to dig.</p>
<p>On this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, Parker shares a raw and unfiltered look at his journey. He reveals his life before Moss Utilities, detailing his high school struggles, an unconventional homeschool degree, and the moment he called his dad for a second chance after hitting rock bottom. It's a story of choosing to leave a troubled life behind and getting to work.</p>
<p>Parker takes us back to his start in the trades, from the labor-intensive work of his father's pool business—where he was paid by the job to move heavy coping and stone—to his first role as a laborer in utility construction. He recounts how his work ethic, forged by his father's tireless example, propelled him from the punch crew to foreman, then to superintendent, and eventually to COO. He shares candidly about the "hard years" of 2018-2019 and the deep-seated fear that the business might fail.</p>
<p>This isn't just a story of individual success; it's a blueprint for building a business on the right principles. Parker explains how Moss Utilities forged unbreakable partnerships with key clients like <strong>Pogue Construction</strong> and <strong>RPM xConstruction</strong> by simply sticking to their word, owning their mistakes, and consistently showing up. His journey is a testament to the power of perseverance, the importance of integrity, and the belief that true leadership is about more than a title.</p>
<p>Tune in to hear how this unwavering grit led Parker to a powerful partnership with founder <strong>Garrett Moss</strong>, and how that shared commitment became the foundation that makes Moss Utilities truly too big to fail.</p>]]>
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Some people talk about their "career path." Our COO, Parker Thane, talks about the path he had to dig.
On this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, Parker shares a raw and unfiltered look at his journey. He reveals his life before Moss Utilities, detailing his high school struggles, an unconventional homeschool degree, and the moment he called his dad for a second chance after hitting rock bottom. It's a story of choosing to leave a troubled life behind and getting to work.
Parker takes us back to his start in the trades, from the labor-intensive work of his father's pool business—where he was paid by the job to move heavy coping and stone—to his first role as a laborer in utility construction. He recounts how his work ethic, forged by his father's tireless example, propelled him from the punch crew to foreman, then to superintendent, and eventually to COO. He shares candidly about the "hard years" of 2018-2019 and the deep-seated fear that the business might fail.
This isn't just a story of individual success; it's a blueprint for building a business on the right principles. Parker explains how Moss Utilities forged unbreakable partnerships with key clients like Pogue Construction and RPM xConstruction by simply sticking to their word, owning their mistakes, and consistently showing up. His journey is a testament to the power of perseverance, the importance of integrity, and the belief that true leadership is about more than a title.
Tune in to hear how this unwavering grit led Parker to a powerful partnership with founder Garrett Moss, and how that shared commitment became the foundation that makes Moss Utilities truly too big to fail.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:28:10</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[8. Building a Strong Safety Culture with Angel Tavera and Jesus Torres]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2025 14:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "Top Big to Fail," Moss Utilities Safety Manager Angel Tavera sits down with his employee, Jesus Torres, for a conversation about building a strong safety culture. They share a remarkable, parallel journey from their early days in construction to becoming key leaders at Moss Utilities. This episode is a testament to the power of mentorship, shared experience, and a company that truly invests in its people. Angel and Jesus highlight the unique culture at Moss Utilities, where an employee-first approach is at the core of everything they do—from hosting pickleball tournaments to the company's unwavering commitment to safety, no matter the cost.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) -  Safety Representative for Utility Contractors</li><li>(00:02:57) - How I Got My Foreman Certification</li><li>(00:07:37) - How I Learned To Work in Construction</li><li>(00:11:48) - How I learned to weld safety</li><li>(00:15:49) -  locator technician transitions from utility company to Moss</li><li>(00:20:28) - Safety on Utility Projects</li><li>(00:25:10) - One foreman's dedication to the company</li><li>(00:30:16) - "The Band's No More on Site"</li><li>(00:30:46) - How to Play Soccer</li><li>(00:34:16) - Moss FC is the only Mexican club in the Liga</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of "Top Big to Fail," Moss Utilities Safety Manager Angel Tavera sits down with his employee, Jesus Torres, for a conversation about building a strong safety culture. They share a remarkable, parallel journey from their early days in construction to becoming key leaders at Moss Utilities. This episode is a testament to the power of mentorship, shared experience, and a company that truly invests in its people. Angel and Jesus highlight the unique culture at Moss Utilities, where an employee-first approach is at the core of everything they do—from hosting pickleball tournaments to the company's unwavering commitment to safety, no matter the cost.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[8. Building a Strong Safety Culture with Angel Tavera and Jesus Torres]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "Top Big to Fail," Moss Utilities Safety Manager Angel Tavera sits down with his employee, Jesus Torres, for a conversation about building a strong safety culture. They share a remarkable, parallel journey from their early days in construction to becoming key leaders at Moss Utilities. This episode is a testament to the power of mentorship, shared experience, and a company that truly invests in its people. Angel and Jesus highlight the unique culture at Moss Utilities, where an employee-first approach is at the core of everything they do—from hosting pickleball tournaments to the company's unwavering commitment to safety, no matter the cost.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of "Top Big to Fail," Moss Utilities Safety Manager Angel Tavera sits down with his employee, Jesus Torres, for a conversation about building a strong safety culture. They share a remarkable, parallel journey from their early days in construction to becoming key leaders at Moss Utilities. This episode is a testament to the power of mentorship, shared experience, and a company that truly invests in its people. Angel and Jesus highlight the unique culture at Moss Utilities, where an employee-first approach is at the core of everything they do—from hosting pickleball tournaments to the company's unwavering commitment to safety, no matter the cost.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:36:53</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[7. The Long Haul: From Flowers to Excavators and Finding Sobriety]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2025 15:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://too-big-to-fail.castos.com/episodes/too-big-to-fail-episode-7-the-long-haul-from-flowers-to-excavators-and-finding-sobriety</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p></p>
<p>In this episode of "Too Big To Fail," host Angel Tavern sits down with Moss Utilities' Matthew Castillo, offering listeners a candid look at his remarkable journey. Matthew shares how he transitioned from the fast-paced world of dispatching flowers for a small company to managing the massive fleet of heavy machinery for Moss Utilities. He opens up about the personal battles that defined his past, including his struggles with depression and a significant alcohol addiction.</p>
<p>Matthew’s story is one of profound change, highlighting how the supportive, family-like culture at Moss Utilities was instrumental in his recovery. He recounts the pivotal moment he went "cold turkey" and the challenging week he spent in the hospital, a wake-up call that put his life on a new trajectory.</p>
<p>Now two years sober, Matthew speaks with immense pride about his role in the company. He details the complexities of his job, from coordinating the right machines for the right jobs to handling high-pressure "911" calls that demand immediate action. His work is far more than logistics; it's a critical function that ensures the safety of his team and the success of every project. Matthew emphasizes the company's "family first" motto, underscoring his commitment to getting his drivers home safely and on time, allowing them to enjoy their lives outside of work.</p>
<p>The episode also delves into the operational side of the transportation department, revealing the intricate dance of working with superintendents, managing vendors, and maintaining a high level of efficiency that is vital to the company's reputation. Matthew’s story is a powerful testament to personal resilience, the importance of a strong workplace culture, and the critical, often unseen, work that keeps a company like Moss Utilities running.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Dispatching Heavy Haul Industries: Garrett Moss</li><li>(00:02:52) - Dispatching Flowers: One Employee's Fight to Get Clean</li><li>(00:08:55) - The Transportation Department's 911</li><li>(00:14:46) - Supervisors: Make Sure Our Guys Are</li><li>(00:21:59) - "I'm Pretty Well-Known"</li><li>(00:22:15) - Pipe Installers: The Hard Part of My Job</li><li>(00:24:57) - What's one of your favorite things about working at Moss?</li><li>(00:30:43) - Heavy Duty: Driving a RGN</li></ul>]]>
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In this episode of "Too Big To Fail," host Angel Tavern sits down with Moss Utilities' Matthew Castillo, offering listeners a candid look at his remarkable journey. Matthew shares how he transitioned from the fast-paced world of dispatching flowers for a small company to managing the massive fleet of heavy machinery for Moss Utilities. He opens up about the personal battles that defined his past, including his struggles with depression and a significant alcohol addiction.
Matthew’s story is one of profound change, highlighting how the supportive, family-like culture at Moss Utilities was instrumental in his recovery. He recounts the pivotal moment he went "cold turkey" and the challenging week he spent in the hospital, a wake-up call that put his life on a new trajectory.
Now two years sober, Matthew speaks with immense pride about his role in the company. He details the complexities of his job, from coordinating the right machines for the right jobs to handling high-pressure "911" calls that demand immediate action. His work is far more than logistics; it's a critical function that ensures the safety of his team and the success of every project. Matthew emphasizes the company's "family first" motto, underscoring his commitment to getting his drivers home safely and on time, allowing them to enjoy their lives outside of work.
The episode also delves into the operational side of the transportation department, revealing the intricate dance of working with superintendents, managing vendors, and maintaining a high level of efficiency that is vital to the company's reputation. Matthew’s story is a powerful testament to personal resilience, the importance of a strong workplace culture, and the critical, often unseen, work that keeps a company like Moss Utilities running.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[7. The Long Haul: From Flowers to Excavators and Finding Sobriety]]>
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<p>In this episode of "Too Big To Fail," host Angel Tavern sits down with Moss Utilities' Matthew Castillo, offering listeners a candid look at his remarkable journey. Matthew shares how he transitioned from the fast-paced world of dispatching flowers for a small company to managing the massive fleet of heavy machinery for Moss Utilities. He opens up about the personal battles that defined his past, including his struggles with depression and a significant alcohol addiction.</p>
<p>Matthew’s story is one of profound change, highlighting how the supportive, family-like culture at Moss Utilities was instrumental in his recovery. He recounts the pivotal moment he went "cold turkey" and the challenging week he spent in the hospital, a wake-up call that put his life on a new trajectory.</p>
<p>Now two years sober, Matthew speaks with immense pride about his role in the company. He details the complexities of his job, from coordinating the right machines for the right jobs to handling high-pressure "911" calls that demand immediate action. His work is far more than logistics; it's a critical function that ensures the safety of his team and the success of every project. Matthew emphasizes the company's "family first" motto, underscoring his commitment to getting his drivers home safely and on time, allowing them to enjoy their lives outside of work.</p>
<p>The episode also delves into the operational side of the transportation department, revealing the intricate dance of working with superintendents, managing vendors, and maintaining a high level of efficiency that is vital to the company's reputation. Matthew’s story is a powerful testament to personal resilience, the importance of a strong workplace culture, and the critical, often unseen, work that keeps a company like Moss Utilities running.</p>]]>
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In this episode of "Too Big To Fail," host Angel Tavern sits down with Moss Utilities' Matthew Castillo, offering listeners a candid look at his remarkable journey. Matthew shares how he transitioned from the fast-paced world of dispatching flowers for a small company to managing the massive fleet of heavy machinery for Moss Utilities. He opens up about the personal battles that defined his past, including his struggles with depression and a significant alcohol addiction.
Matthew’s story is one of profound change, highlighting how the supportive, family-like culture at Moss Utilities was instrumental in his recovery. He recounts the pivotal moment he went "cold turkey" and the challenging week he spent in the hospital, a wake-up call that put his life on a new trajectory.
Now two years sober, Matthew speaks with immense pride about his role in the company. He details the complexities of his job, from coordinating the right machines for the right jobs to handling high-pressure "911" calls that demand immediate action. His work is far more than logistics; it's a critical function that ensures the safety of his team and the success of every project. Matthew emphasizes the company's "family first" motto, underscoring his commitment to getting his drivers home safely and on time, allowing them to enjoy their lives outside of work.
The episode also delves into the operational side of the transportation department, revealing the intricate dance of working with superintendents, managing vendors, and maintaining a high level of efficiency that is vital to the company's reputation. Matthew’s story is a powerful testament to personal resilience, the importance of a strong workplace culture, and the critical, often unseen, work that keeps a company like Moss Utilities running.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:33:58</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[6. Side-by-Side: Uniting the Office and the Field, from Plans to Pipe]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p></p>
<p>this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, we sit down with <strong>Ruben Aguilar</strong> and <strong>Julio Hernandez</strong> for an inspiring look at how they helped transform Moss Utilities. You'll hear the remarkable stories of their journeys—Ruben starting as a laborer who climbed the ranks from pipe layer to General Superintendent, and Julio joining the team as a seasoned veteran who had worked his way up from Moss Construction. They share the hard-won lessons that shaped their careers and how their paths converged during one of the company's toughest periods.</p>
<p>This isn't just a story about growth; it's a blueprint for building a unified team. Ruben and Julio take us from a time when the field and office were two separate worlds to a modern, collaborative approach where communication is the foundation of every project. They discuss the critical shift in strategy that brought departments like estimating, project management, and on-site crews together, making a complex job like Project P117 a success. You'll learn how they now prepare for difficult projects by putting the right foremen and superintendents in place and how this relationship-driven approach has become Moss's competitive edge.</p>
<p>This episode is a masterclass in leadership and dedication. Our guests reflect on the importance of learning every part of the business, from running a compactor to leading a full crew. They also share their perspectives on the Moss University program, highlighting its role in preparing the next generation of leaders with a complete understanding of the company.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Steve Nash on Having Moss on the Team</li><li>(00:00:39) - Moss Construction: Growing Up at Moss</li><li>(00:04:16) - Teammates on Becoming Foremen</li><li>(00:07:39) - Moss Utilities Superintendent and Employee Interview</li><li>(00:08:53) - How has the PNBN communication evolved?</li><li>(00:10:55) - Muhammad on PMs and the Moss</li><li>(00:13:40) - MR: Communication on P117</li><li>(00:20:18) - Which city is your favorite city?</li><li>(00:21:36) - How To Pick the Right Superintendent</li><li>(00:23:26) - Moss You: A Personal Experience</li><li>(00:24:41) - Moss Utilities: The Field Experience</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[
this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, we sit down with Ruben Aguilar and Julio Hernandez for an inspiring look at how they helped transform Moss Utilities. You'll hear the remarkable stories of their journeys—Ruben starting as a laborer who climbed the ranks from pipe layer to General Superintendent, and Julio joining the team as a seasoned veteran who had worked his way up from Moss Construction. They share the hard-won lessons that shaped their careers and how their paths converged during one of the company's toughest periods.
This isn't just a story about growth; it's a blueprint for building a unified team. Ruben and Julio take us from a time when the field and office were two separate worlds to a modern, collaborative approach where communication is the foundation of every project. They discuss the critical shift in strategy that brought departments like estimating, project management, and on-site crews together, making a complex job like Project P117 a success. You'll learn how they now prepare for difficult projects by putting the right foremen and superintendents in place and how this relationship-driven approach has become Moss's competitive edge.
This episode is a masterclass in leadership and dedication. Our guests reflect on the importance of learning every part of the business, from running a compactor to leading a full crew. They also share their perspectives on the Moss University program, highlighting its role in preparing the next generation of leaders with a complete understanding of the company.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[6. Side-by-Side: Uniting the Office and the Field, from Plans to Pipe]]>
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<p>this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, we sit down with <strong>Ruben Aguilar</strong> and <strong>Julio Hernandez</strong> for an inspiring look at how they helped transform Moss Utilities. You'll hear the remarkable stories of their journeys—Ruben starting as a laborer who climbed the ranks from pipe layer to General Superintendent, and Julio joining the team as a seasoned veteran who had worked his way up from Moss Construction. They share the hard-won lessons that shaped their careers and how their paths converged during one of the company's toughest periods.</p>
<p>This isn't just a story about growth; it's a blueprint for building a unified team. Ruben and Julio take us from a time when the field and office were two separate worlds to a modern, collaborative approach where communication is the foundation of every project. They discuss the critical shift in strategy that brought departments like estimating, project management, and on-site crews together, making a complex job like Project P117 a success. You'll learn how they now prepare for difficult projects by putting the right foremen and superintendents in place and how this relationship-driven approach has become Moss's competitive edge.</p>
<p>This episode is a masterclass in leadership and dedication. Our guests reflect on the importance of learning every part of the business, from running a compactor to leading a full crew. They also share their perspectives on the Moss University program, highlighting its role in preparing the next generation of leaders with a complete understanding of the company.</p>]]>
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this episode of the "Too Big to Fail" podcast, we sit down with Ruben Aguilar and Julio Hernandez for an inspiring look at how they helped transform Moss Utilities. You'll hear the remarkable stories of their journeys—Ruben starting as a laborer who climbed the ranks from pipe layer to General Superintendent, and Julio joining the team as a seasoned veteran who had worked his way up from Moss Construction. They share the hard-won lessons that shaped their careers and how their paths converged during one of the company's toughest periods.
This isn't just a story about growth; it's a blueprint for building a unified team. Ruben and Julio take us from a time when the field and office were two separate worlds to a modern, collaborative approach where communication is the foundation of every project. They discuss the critical shift in strategy that brought departments like estimating, project management, and on-site crews together, making a complex job like Project P117 a success. You'll learn how they now prepare for difficult projects by putting the right foremen and superintendents in place and how this relationship-driven approach has become Moss's competitive edge.
This episode is a masterclass in leadership and dedication. Our guests reflect on the importance of learning every part of the business, from running a compactor to leading a full crew. They also share their perspectives on the Moss University program, highlighting its role in preparing the next generation of leaders with a complete understanding of the company.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[5. The Ripple Effect of Good Mentorship with Matt Senter]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 13:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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<p>In this episode of "Too Big to Fail," we're joined by Project Executive Matt Senter, who shares his powerful journey from a family steeped in Chicago's construction world to his impactful rise in Dallas. He gives us an uncensored look at his career, detailing how he navigated the immense challenges of the post-COVID supply chain and made a courageous "leap of faith" to join Moss.</p>
<p>Matt explains why transparency and accountability are non-negotiable, and how they fuel a "one big team" culture where everyone, from estimators to field crews, is set up for success. This conversation is a masterclass in leadership, covering the ripple effect of good mentorship, the importance of building genuine relationships, and the powerful insight that sometimes, you just have to "be ready to grind."</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - GCS: One Team</li><li>(00:00:46) - How Did You Get Started in Construction?</li><li>(00:02:30) - Construction worker starts out as a junior estimator</li><li>(00:04:43) - The Material Shortages during COVID-3</li><li>(00:05:48) - First Projects at Moss Construction</li><li>(00:09:43) - GCS Board of Directors: Be transparent, accountable</li><li>(00:10:43) - Project Management Team Member on Growing the Team</li><li>(00:12:39) - Moss County Superintendents</li><li>(00:14:21) - Mentoring the Young Guys</li><li>(00:18:07) - Matt Center: Be Ready to Grind</li></ul>]]>
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In this episode of "Too Big to Fail," we're joined by Project Executive Matt Senter, who shares his powerful journey from a family steeped in Chicago's construction world to his impactful rise in Dallas. He gives us an uncensored look at his career, detailing how he navigated the immense challenges of the post-COVID supply chain and made a courageous "leap of faith" to join Moss.
Matt explains why transparency and accountability are non-negotiable, and how they fuel a "one big team" culture where everyone, from estimators to field crews, is set up for success. This conversation is a masterclass in leadership, covering the ripple effect of good mentorship, the importance of building genuine relationships, and the powerful insight that sometimes, you just have to "be ready to grind."]]>
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                    <![CDATA[5. The Ripple Effect of Good Mentorship with Matt Senter]]>
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<p>In this episode of "Too Big to Fail," we're joined by Project Executive Matt Senter, who shares his powerful journey from a family steeped in Chicago's construction world to his impactful rise in Dallas. He gives us an uncensored look at his career, detailing how he navigated the immense challenges of the post-COVID supply chain and made a courageous "leap of faith" to join Moss.</p>
<p>Matt explains why transparency and accountability are non-negotiable, and how they fuel a "one big team" culture where everyone, from estimators to field crews, is set up for success. This conversation is a masterclass in leadership, covering the ripple effect of good mentorship, the importance of building genuine relationships, and the powerful insight that sometimes, you just have to "be ready to grind."</p>]]>
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In this episode of "Too Big to Fail," we're joined by Project Executive Matt Senter, who shares his powerful journey from a family steeped in Chicago's construction world to his impactful rise in Dallas. He gives us an uncensored look at his career, detailing how he navigated the immense challenges of the post-COVID supply chain and made a courageous "leap of faith" to join Moss.
Matt explains why transparency and accountability are non-negotiable, and how they fuel a "one big team" culture where everyone, from estimators to field crews, is set up for success. This conversation is a masterclass in leadership, covering the ripple effect of good mentorship, the importance of building genuine relationships, and the powerful insight that sometimes, you just have to "be ready to grind."]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[4: From Laborers to Leaders – The Hernandez Brothers' Journey]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 14:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>This episode of Too Big To Fail features brothers Cristian and Jesus Hernandez, who share their remarkable journey from warehouse workers to key leaders at Moss Utilities. Their story is a testament to dedication, continuous learning, and the power of seizing opportunities. The brothers recount their humble beginnings at Moss. Cristian, who started as a laborer seven and a half years ago, transitioned from a warehouse job with no prior construction experience. He quickly learned the ropes, from reading plans and shooting grade to operating heavy machinery, eventually becoming a foreman in just six months. His dedication to learning the terminology and hands-on skills was crucial. <br /><br />Jesus followed in his brother's footsteps, initially joining the same crew as a driver. He also came from a warehouse background, valuing the responsibility he gained there. Despite the initial challenges of a new industry and working outdoors, both brothers emphasized the importance of communication and building trust within their crews. They highlight how being bilingual helped bridge communication gaps and how leading by example, especially in hands-on work, motivated their crews. The conversation delves into the challenges and triumphs of their promotions. Cristian quickly rose to General Superintendent, managing multiple crews and navigating complex projects in demanding areas in North Texas. He discusses the crucial role of building relationships with general contractors and city inspectors, understanding that good communication is vital for project success. Jesus, similarly, became a foreman and then a superintendent in a short span, emphasizing the need to trust the process and continually learn. <br /><br />A significant theme throughout the episode is the influence of leadership, particularly the relentless "push" from their mentor, Parker Thane. Both brothers view this mentorship as a positive force that challenged them to become the best versions of themselves, instilling a mindset of never saying no to a challenge and always putting in extra effort. <br /><br />They also touch upon the broader impact of their work, recognizing that installing underground utilities is fundamental to daily life, from turning on a faucet to powering schools and businesses. The episode concludes with their advice to field workers: always give 100%, view every task as a learning opportunity, and understand that hard work will lead to advancement.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Give it Your All</li><li>(00:00:36) - Moss Construction: Christian and Jesus</li><li>(00:04:02) - Wheels on a Machine</li><li>(00:05:55) - What Would You Say is the Most Difficult Part of Working On</li><li>(00:10:07) - Punch Crew foreman on Hard Hat</li><li>(00:12:51) - Moss Football Club's Culture</li><li>(00:13:54) - Moss Factory's culture</li><li>(00:15:06) - Brandon Boyd on His First Project as a Foreman</li><li>(00:19:46) - How to Get the Most Out of Your Employees</li><li>(00:20:07) - Past Foreman Parker Jones on His Role</li><li>(00:23:39) - Garrett on Superintendents' Challenges</li><li>(00:25:07) - Superintendent on Becoming a Foreman in Dallas</li><li>(00:28:46) - How to manage a GC's project</li><li>(00:31:40) - Projects Supervisor on a Big Project</li><li>(00:36:21) - GMCs on the Wet Utilities</li><li>(00:40:56) - Moss Utilities: An Impact</li><li>(00:45:00) - Dempsey on His Career</li><li>(00:46:01) - Moss Legends on the Field</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of Too Big To Fail features brothers Cristian and Jesus Hernandez, who share their remarkable journey from warehouse workers to key leaders at Moss Utilities. Their story is a testament to dedication, continuous learning, and the power of seizing opportunities. The brothers recount their humble beginnings at Moss. Cristian, who started as a laborer seven and a half years ago, transitioned from a warehouse job with no prior construction experience. He quickly learned the ropes, from reading plans and shooting grade to operating heavy machinery, eventually becoming a foreman in just six months. His dedication to learning the terminology and hands-on skills was crucial. Jesus followed in his brother's footsteps, initially joining the same crew as a driver. He also came from a warehouse background, valuing the responsibility he gained there. Despite the initial challenges of a new industry and working outdoors, both brothers emphasized the importance of communication and building trust within their crews. They highlight how being bilingual helped bridge communication gaps and how leading by example, especially in hands-on work, motivated their crews. The conversation delves into the challenges and triumphs of their promotions. Cristian quickly rose to General Superintendent, managing multiple crews and navigating complex projects in demanding areas in North Texas. He discusses the crucial role of building relationships with general contractors and city inspectors, understanding that good communication is vital for project success. Jesus, similarly, became a foreman and then a superintendent in a short span, emphasizing the need to trust the process and continually learn. A significant theme throughout the episode is the influence of leadership, particularly the relentless "push" from their mentor, Parker Thane. Both brothers view this mentorship as a positive force that challenged them to become the best versions of themselves, instilling a mindset of never saying no to a challenge and always putting in extra effort. They also touch upon the broader impact of their work, recognizing that installing underground utilities is fundamental to daily life, from turning on a faucet to powering schools and businesses. The episode concludes with their advice to field workers: always give 100%, view every task as a learning opportunity, and understand that hard work will lead to advancement.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[4: From Laborers to Leaders – The Hernandez Brothers' Journey]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>This episode of Too Big To Fail features brothers Cristian and Jesus Hernandez, who share their remarkable journey from warehouse workers to key leaders at Moss Utilities. Their story is a testament to dedication, continuous learning, and the power of seizing opportunities. The brothers recount their humble beginnings at Moss. Cristian, who started as a laborer seven and a half years ago, transitioned from a warehouse job with no prior construction experience. He quickly learned the ropes, from reading plans and shooting grade to operating heavy machinery, eventually becoming a foreman in just six months. His dedication to learning the terminology and hands-on skills was crucial. <br /><br />Jesus followed in his brother's footsteps, initially joining the same crew as a driver. He also came from a warehouse background, valuing the responsibility he gained there. Despite the initial challenges of a new industry and working outdoors, both brothers emphasized the importance of communication and building trust within their crews. They highlight how being bilingual helped bridge communication gaps and how leading by example, especially in hands-on work, motivated their crews. The conversation delves into the challenges and triumphs of their promotions. Cristian quickly rose to General Superintendent, managing multiple crews and navigating complex projects in demanding areas in North Texas. He discusses the crucial role of building relationships with general contractors and city inspectors, understanding that good communication is vital for project success. Jesus, similarly, became a foreman and then a superintendent in a short span, emphasizing the need to trust the process and continually learn. <br /><br />A significant theme throughout the episode is the influence of leadership, particularly the relentless "push" from their mentor, Parker Thane. Both brothers view this mentorship as a positive force that challenged them to become the best versions of themselves, instilling a mindset of never saying no to a challenge and always putting in extra effort. <br /><br />They also touch upon the broader impact of their work, recognizing that installing underground utilities is fundamental to daily life, from turning on a faucet to powering schools and businesses. The episode concludes with their advice to field workers: always give 100%, view every task as a learning opportunity, and understand that hard work will lead to advancement.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode of Too Big To Fail features brothers Cristian and Jesus Hernandez, who share their remarkable journey from warehouse workers to key leaders at Moss Utilities. Their story is a testament to dedication, continuous learning, and the power of seizing opportunities. The brothers recount their humble beginnings at Moss. Cristian, who started as a laborer seven and a half years ago, transitioned from a warehouse job with no prior construction experience. He quickly learned the ropes, from reading plans and shooting grade to operating heavy machinery, eventually becoming a foreman in just six months. His dedication to learning the terminology and hands-on skills was crucial. Jesus followed in his brother's footsteps, initially joining the same crew as a driver. He also came from a warehouse background, valuing the responsibility he gained there. Despite the initial challenges of a new industry and working outdoors, both brothers emphasized the importance of communication and building trust within their crews. They highlight how being bilingual helped bridge communication gaps and how leading by example, especially in hands-on work, motivated their crews. The conversation delves into the challenges and triumphs of their promotions. Cristian quickly rose to General Superintendent, managing multiple crews and navigating complex projects in demanding areas in North Texas. He discusses the crucial role of building relationships with general contractors and city inspectors, understanding that good communication is vital for project success. Jesus, similarly, became a foreman and then a superintendent in a short span, emphasizing the need to trust the process and continually learn. A significant theme throughout the episode is the influence of leadership, particularly the relentless "push" from their mentor, Parker Thane. Both brothers view this mentorship as a positive force that challenged them to become the best versions of themselves, instilling a mindset of never saying no to a challenge and always putting in extra effort. They also touch upon the broader impact of their work, recognizing that installing underground utilities is fundamental to daily life, from turning on a faucet to powering schools and businesses. The episode concludes with their advice to field workers: always give 100%, view every task as a learning opportunity, and understand that hard work will lead to advancement.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[3. The Power of Relationships with John Moss]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2025 19:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p></p>
<p>This episode of "Too Big to Fail" features <strong>John, the Chief Estimator at Moss Utilities</strong>, who shares his journey and highlights the critical role of his team.</p>
<p>John recounts his upbringing in Wylie and Farmersville, and his six years at Texas Tech, where he earned a degree in University Studies. He reflects on early jobs at Market Street and Chick-fil-A, which taught him the importance of hard work and self-motivation.</p>
<p>At Moss Utilities, John started as one of the first receptionists. Through his dedication to learning and asking questions, he rapidly advanced, becoming the <strong>first estimating coordinator</strong>, then an estimator, lead estimator, and eventually <strong>Chief Estimator</strong>. He emphasizes that <strong>proactive learning and being present</strong> were key to his growth.</p>
<p>The core of the discussion centers on the <strong>estimating team's vital role</strong> in securing projects for Moss Utilities. John explains that his department is the <strong>initial point for all new work</strong>, responsible for bidding on billions of dollars in projects to meet revenue goals. He stresses the importance of <strong>building strong relationships</strong> with clients, fostering true partnerships built on trust and open communication. These relationships allow for flexibility and collaboration, even when difficulties arise.</p>
<p>John also discusses the <strong>internal collaboration</strong> among all departments—estimating, project management, and operations—which ensures successful project execution. He expresses immense pride in his team and the "beautiful burden" of knowing their work directly supports <strong>400 families</strong> within Moss Utilities. He acknowledges that the demanding work of the estimating team, often performed late into the night, may go unnoticed by others in the field. However, this effort is driven by a deep commitment to creating opportunities for everyone at the company.</p>
<p>The episode concludes with a powerful message about the <strong>collective effort</strong> that defines Moss Utilities. Every role, from the estimators behind their desks to the crews operating the distinctive "big blue machines" in the field, is essential to the company's success and its ability to provide for its employees.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Employees speak out about the challenges</li><li>(00:00:39) - John Stamatopoulos on His College Decision</li><li>(00:02:39) - Choosing your path in college</li><li>(00:04:29) - What Was One of Your First Jobs? Straight Out Of College</li><li>(00:06:14) - Leading the estimators at Moss</li><li>(00:09:26) - In the Elevator: From Coordinator to Estimate</li><li>(00:15:21) - An estimating team member's touching message</li><li>(00:19:23) - Blue Machines on the Job</li><li>(00:19:41) - A message to former Moss employees</li></ul>]]>
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This episode of "Too Big to Fail" features John, the Chief Estimator at Moss Utilities, who shares his journey and highlights the critical role of his team.
John recounts his upbringing in Wylie and Farmersville, and his six years at Texas Tech, where he earned a degree in University Studies. He reflects on early jobs at Market Street and Chick-fil-A, which taught him the importance of hard work and self-motivation.
At Moss Utilities, John started as one of the first receptionists. Through his dedication to learning and asking questions, he rapidly advanced, becoming the first estimating coordinator, then an estimator, lead estimator, and eventually Chief Estimator. He emphasizes that proactive learning and being present were key to his growth.
The core of the discussion centers on the estimating team's vital role in securing projects for Moss Utilities. John explains that his department is the initial point for all new work, responsible for bidding on billions of dollars in projects to meet revenue goals. He stresses the importance of building strong relationships with clients, fostering true partnerships built on trust and open communication. These relationships allow for flexibility and collaboration, even when difficulties arise.
John also discusses the internal collaboration among all departments—estimating, project management, and operations—which ensures successful project execution. He expresses immense pride in his team and the "beautiful burden" of knowing their work directly supports 400 families within Moss Utilities. He acknowledges that the demanding work of the estimating team, often performed late into the night, may go unnoticed by others in the field. However, this effort is driven by a deep commitment to creating opportunities for everyone at the company.
The episode concludes with a powerful message about the collective effort that defines Moss Utilities. Every role, from the estimators behind their desks to the crews operating the distinctive "big blue machines" in the field, is essential to the company's success and its ability to provide for its employees.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[3. The Power of Relationships with John Moss]]>
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<p>This episode of "Too Big to Fail" features <strong>John, the Chief Estimator at Moss Utilities</strong>, who shares his journey and highlights the critical role of his team.</p>
<p>John recounts his upbringing in Wylie and Farmersville, and his six years at Texas Tech, where he earned a degree in University Studies. He reflects on early jobs at Market Street and Chick-fil-A, which taught him the importance of hard work and self-motivation.</p>
<p>At Moss Utilities, John started as one of the first receptionists. Through his dedication to learning and asking questions, he rapidly advanced, becoming the <strong>first estimating coordinator</strong>, then an estimator, lead estimator, and eventually <strong>Chief Estimator</strong>. He emphasizes that <strong>proactive learning and being present</strong> were key to his growth.</p>
<p>The core of the discussion centers on the <strong>estimating team's vital role</strong> in securing projects for Moss Utilities. John explains that his department is the <strong>initial point for all new work</strong>, responsible for bidding on billions of dollars in projects to meet revenue goals. He stresses the importance of <strong>building strong relationships</strong> with clients, fostering true partnerships built on trust and open communication. These relationships allow for flexibility and collaboration, even when difficulties arise.</p>
<p>John also discusses the <strong>internal collaboration</strong> among all departments—estimating, project management, and operations—which ensures successful project execution. He expresses immense pride in his team and the "beautiful burden" of knowing their work directly supports <strong>400 families</strong> within Moss Utilities. He acknowledges that the demanding work of the estimating team, often performed late into the night, may go unnoticed by others in the field. However, this effort is driven by a deep commitment to creating opportunities for everyone at the company.</p>
<p>The episode concludes with a powerful message about the <strong>collective effort</strong> that defines Moss Utilities. Every role, from the estimators behind their desks to the crews operating the distinctive "big blue machines" in the field, is essential to the company's success and its ability to provide for its employees.</p>]]>
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This episode of "Too Big to Fail" features John, the Chief Estimator at Moss Utilities, who shares his journey and highlights the critical role of his team.
John recounts his upbringing in Wylie and Farmersville, and his six years at Texas Tech, where he earned a degree in University Studies. He reflects on early jobs at Market Street and Chick-fil-A, which taught him the importance of hard work and self-motivation.
At Moss Utilities, John started as one of the first receptionists. Through his dedication to learning and asking questions, he rapidly advanced, becoming the first estimating coordinator, then an estimator, lead estimator, and eventually Chief Estimator. He emphasizes that proactive learning and being present were key to his growth.
The core of the discussion centers on the estimating team's vital role in securing projects for Moss Utilities. John explains that his department is the initial point for all new work, responsible for bidding on billions of dollars in projects to meet revenue goals. He stresses the importance of building strong relationships with clients, fostering true partnerships built on trust and open communication. These relationships allow for flexibility and collaboration, even when difficulties arise.
John also discusses the internal collaboration among all departments—estimating, project management, and operations—which ensures successful project execution. He expresses immense pride in his team and the "beautiful burden" of knowing their work directly supports 400 families within Moss Utilities. He acknowledges that the demanding work of the estimating team, often performed late into the night, may go unnoticed by others in the field. However, this effort is driven by a deep commitment to creating opportunities for everyone at the company.
The episode concludes with a powerful message about the collective effort that defines Moss Utilities. Every role, from the estimators behind their desks to the crews operating the distinctive "big blue machines" in the field, is essential to the company's success and its ability to provide for its employees.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[2. How a Bid Becomes a Job]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p></p>
<p>In this podcast episode, Angel Tavera interviews Edwin Tavira of Moss Utilities. Edwin shares his journey, starting as a lube truck assistant in September 2018 while in college. He initially knew nothing about excavation or plumbing but used his curiosity to learn from foremen, gaining a "bigger picture" understanding of the industry, including safety procedures, trenching, and grading.</p>
<p>By December 2019, as he neared graduation, Moss Utilities founder Garrett Moss, who was very involved in all aspects of the business, offered Edwin an interview. This led to his role as an <strong>estimating coordinator</strong>, where he learned to delegate emails, manage schedules, and understand the intricacies of reading plans and performing take-offs. Edwin realized the critical impact of the estimating department on the company's overall success, describing it as a "domino effect" – if estimating doesn't secure jobs, other departments can't function.</p>
<p>Edwin explains the <strong>bid process</strong> at Moss Utilities, which begins with the estimating coordinator receiving bid invitations. They prioritize projects and clients through weekly meetings, emphasizing the importance of <strong>relationships</strong> with general contractors and vendors (for pipe, aggregate, and specialty items). Estimators then use software like "Heavy Bid Access Cloud system" to calculate time and material, considering various factors like depth, existing conditions (water, rock), and city-specific standards across the DFW area. Edwin likens estimating to an "open book test," where all information is available if you know where to look.</p>
<p>He highlights the <strong>complexity of projects</strong>, noting that smaller, downtown jobs can often be more challenging than larger ones due to congested areas and numerous obstacles. Despite the constant demands, Edwin enjoys the fast-paced environment and appreciates how every department at Moss Utilities works in "union," much like a well-lubricated machine.</p>
<p>Edwin emphasizes that everyone's role at Moss Utilities is vital, fostering a supportive work environment where employees feel valued and their contributions impact hundreds of families. He expresses pride in his work and the company's involvement in significant projects, such as schools across the metroplex.</p>
<p>His <strong>words of wisdom</strong> to aspiring construction professionals are to "go out there and get it" and "do it." He stresses the importance of hard work, continuous learning, and setting goals. For Edwin, the "win-win" philosophy at Moss Utilities means that successful bids lead to a chain effect of work, allowing everyone, from project managers to field workers, to go home winning and providing for their families.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Edwin Jackson on Construction</li><li>(00:00:29) - Employee Edwin Moss on Moss Lewtruck</li><li>(00:02:00) - How a Lube Trick Assistant transitioned to a Truck Driver</li><li>(00:03:37) - How To Get Your Project Out of the Estimated Department</li><li>(00:08:18) - What Makes A Contractor Pick the Right Project?</li><li>(00:12:38) - Polk Construction: Everybody's Job Matters</li><li>(00:16:16) - Words of Wisdom from Edwin</li></ul>]]>
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In this podcast episode, Angel Tavera interviews Edwin Tavira of Moss Utilities. Edwin shares his journey, starting as a lube truck assistant in September 2018 while in college. He initially knew nothing about excavation or plumbing but used his curiosity to learn from foremen, gaining a "bigger picture" understanding of the industry, including safety procedures, trenching, and grading.
By December 2019, as he neared graduation, Moss Utilities founder Garrett Moss, who was very involved in all aspects of the business, offered Edwin an interview. This led to his role as an estimating coordinator, where he learned to delegate emails, manage schedules, and understand the intricacies of reading plans and performing take-offs. Edwin realized the critical impact of the estimating department on the company's overall success, describing it as a "domino effect" – if estimating doesn't secure jobs, other departments can't function.
Edwin explains the bid process at Moss Utilities, which begins with the estimating coordinator receiving bid invitations. They prioritize projects and clients through weekly meetings, emphasizing the importance of relationships with general contractors and vendors (for pipe, aggregate, and specialty items). Estimators then use software like "Heavy Bid Access Cloud system" to calculate time and material, considering various factors like depth, existing conditions (water, rock), and city-specific standards across the DFW area. Edwin likens estimating to an "open book test," where all information is available if you know where to look.
He highlights the complexity of projects, noting that smaller, downtown jobs can often be more challenging than larger ones due to congested areas and numerous obstacles. Despite the constant demands, Edwin enjoys the fast-paced environment and appreciates how every department at Moss Utilities works in "union," much like a well-lubricated machine.
Edwin emphasizes that everyone's role at Moss Utilities is vital, fostering a supportive work environment where employees feel valued and their contributions impact hundreds of families. He expresses pride in his work and the company's involvement in significant projects, such as schools across the metroplex.
His words of wisdom to aspiring construction professionals are to "go out there and get it" and "do it." He stresses the importance of hard work, continuous learning, and setting goals. For Edwin, the "win-win" philosophy at Moss Utilities means that successful bids lead to a chain effect of work, allowing everyone, from project managers to field workers, to go home winning and providing for their families.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[2. How a Bid Becomes a Job]]>
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<p>In this podcast episode, Angel Tavera interviews Edwin Tavira of Moss Utilities. Edwin shares his journey, starting as a lube truck assistant in September 2018 while in college. He initially knew nothing about excavation or plumbing but used his curiosity to learn from foremen, gaining a "bigger picture" understanding of the industry, including safety procedures, trenching, and grading.</p>
<p>By December 2019, as he neared graduation, Moss Utilities founder Garrett Moss, who was very involved in all aspects of the business, offered Edwin an interview. This led to his role as an <strong>estimating coordinator</strong>, where he learned to delegate emails, manage schedules, and understand the intricacies of reading plans and performing take-offs. Edwin realized the critical impact of the estimating department on the company's overall success, describing it as a "domino effect" – if estimating doesn't secure jobs, other departments can't function.</p>
<p>Edwin explains the <strong>bid process</strong> at Moss Utilities, which begins with the estimating coordinator receiving bid invitations. They prioritize projects and clients through weekly meetings, emphasizing the importance of <strong>relationships</strong> with general contractors and vendors (for pipe, aggregate, and specialty items). Estimators then use software like "Heavy Bid Access Cloud system" to calculate time and material, considering various factors like depth, existing conditions (water, rock), and city-specific standards across the DFW area. Edwin likens estimating to an "open book test," where all information is available if you know where to look.</p>
<p>He highlights the <strong>complexity of projects</strong>, noting that smaller, downtown jobs can often be more challenging than larger ones due to congested areas and numerous obstacles. Despite the constant demands, Edwin enjoys the fast-paced environment and appreciates how every department at Moss Utilities works in "union," much like a well-lubricated machine.</p>
<p>Edwin emphasizes that everyone's role at Moss Utilities is vital, fostering a supportive work environment where employees feel valued and their contributions impact hundreds of families. He expresses pride in his work and the company's involvement in significant projects, such as schools across the metroplex.</p>
<p>His <strong>words of wisdom</strong> to aspiring construction professionals are to "go out there and get it" and "do it." He stresses the importance of hard work, continuous learning, and setting goals. For Edwin, the "win-win" philosophy at Moss Utilities means that successful bids lead to a chain effect of work, allowing everyone, from project managers to field workers, to go home winning and providing for their families.</p>]]>
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In this podcast episode, Angel Tavera interviews Edwin Tavira of Moss Utilities. Edwin shares his journey, starting as a lube truck assistant in September 2018 while in college. He initially knew nothing about excavation or plumbing but used his curiosity to learn from foremen, gaining a "bigger picture" understanding of the industry, including safety procedures, trenching, and grading.
By December 2019, as he neared graduation, Moss Utilities founder Garrett Moss, who was very involved in all aspects of the business, offered Edwin an interview. This led to his role as an estimating coordinator, where he learned to delegate emails, manage schedules, and understand the intricacies of reading plans and performing take-offs. Edwin realized the critical impact of the estimating department on the company's overall success, describing it as a "domino effect" – if estimating doesn't secure jobs, other departments can't function.
Edwin explains the bid process at Moss Utilities, which begins with the estimating coordinator receiving bid invitations. They prioritize projects and clients through weekly meetings, emphasizing the importance of relationships with general contractors and vendors (for pipe, aggregate, and specialty items). Estimators then use software like "Heavy Bid Access Cloud system" to calculate time and material, considering various factors like depth, existing conditions (water, rock), and city-specific standards across the DFW area. Edwin likens estimating to an "open book test," where all information is available if you know where to look.
He highlights the complexity of projects, noting that smaller, downtown jobs can often be more challenging than larger ones due to congested areas and numerous obstacles. Despite the constant demands, Edwin enjoys the fast-paced environment and appreciates how every department at Moss Utilities works in "union," much like a well-lubricated machine.
Edwin emphasizes that everyone's role at Moss Utilities is vital, fostering a supportive work environment where employees feel valued and their contributions impact hundreds of families. He expresses pride in his work and the company's involvement in significant projects, such as schools across the metroplex.
His words of wisdom to aspiring construction professionals are to "go out there and get it" and "do it." He stresses the importance of hard work, continuous learning, and setting goals. For Edwin, the "win-win" philosophy at Moss Utilities means that successful bids lead to a chain effect of work, allowing everyone, from project managers to field workers, to go home winning and providing for their families.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[1. This is Our Mission with Garrett Moss]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p></p>
<p>Welcome to the debut of "Too Big to Fail," Moss Utilities' official podcast. Host Angel Tavera, our Safety Manager, sits down with CEO Garrett Moss to unveil the purpose of this podcast and the meaning behind its name.</p>
<p>Garrett explains the title, "Too Big to Fail," embodies a core company conviction: our mission to uplift our teams and communities is simply too grand, too significant, to ever falter. It's a creed that underscores our unwavering commitment to triumph over adversity. The podcast itself is dedicated to our people, reflecting a "go big or go home" mentality.</p>
<p>The primary purpose of the podcast, as Garrett outlines, is to dramatically improve communication with our frontline field teams. While our office culture thrives, there's a deep-seated yearning to bridge the chasm, to truly connect with those who tirelessly forge our success in the field. This podcast becomes that vital conduit—a platform to share their stories, illuminate company milestones, and cultivate an undeniable sense of belonging, ensuring no one feels isolated but rather an integral thread in the tapestry of Moss Utilities.</p>
<p>Beyond communication, Garrett also touches on Moss Utilities' commitment to growth—not just in financials, but in continuous improvement and people development. This creates significant advancement opportunities, a key differentiator.</p>
<p>Garrett shares his personal journey, detailing how he started Moss Utilities from the ground up, learning from family struggles during the 2008 recession. He candidly discusses early challenges, including rapid growth and financial strain, and how relationships and loyalty with vendors and dedicated team members like Kelly and Parker were crucial for survival.</p>
<p>Angel Tavera concludes with a powerful message for our field teams: Moss Utilities is where careers are built. We're committed to investing in individual growth and fostering genuine belonging. Our field teams are the "real MVPs"—the backbone of our success. The ultimate aspiration is a profitable company that fiercely champions its extraordinary people.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) -  Podcast Review</li><li>(00:00:36) - What message do you want to send out to the field?</li><li>(00:02:29) - Moss Energy: Can You Keep Growing?</li><li>(00:03:37) - Owning Your Own Construction Business</li><li>(00:07:06) - Growing a construction business on a shoestring</li><li>(00:11:40) - Reasons for Long Term Loyalty</li><li>(00:16:02) - One of the Company's Leaders on a Mission</li><li>(00:17:22) - Moss Chemical Field Team Meeting</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[
Welcome to the debut of "Too Big to Fail," Moss Utilities' official podcast. Host Angel Tavera, our Safety Manager, sits down with CEO Garrett Moss to unveil the purpose of this podcast and the meaning behind its name.
Garrett explains the title, "Too Big to Fail," embodies a core company conviction: our mission to uplift our teams and communities is simply too grand, too significant, to ever falter. It's a creed that underscores our unwavering commitment to triumph over adversity. The podcast itself is dedicated to our people, reflecting a "go big or go home" mentality.
The primary purpose of the podcast, as Garrett outlines, is to dramatically improve communication with our frontline field teams. While our office culture thrives, there's a deep-seated yearning to bridge the chasm, to truly connect with those who tirelessly forge our success in the field. This podcast becomes that vital conduit—a platform to share their stories, illuminate company milestones, and cultivate an undeniable sense of belonging, ensuring no one feels isolated but rather an integral thread in the tapestry of Moss Utilities.
Beyond communication, Garrett also touches on Moss Utilities' commitment to growth—not just in financials, but in continuous improvement and people development. This creates significant advancement opportunities, a key differentiator.
Garrett shares his personal journey, detailing how he started Moss Utilities from the ground up, learning from family struggles during the 2008 recession. He candidly discusses early challenges, including rapid growth and financial strain, and how relationships and loyalty with vendors and dedicated team members like Kelly and Parker were crucial for survival.
Angel Tavera concludes with a powerful message for our field teams: Moss Utilities is where careers are built. We're committed to investing in individual growth and fostering genuine belonging. Our field teams are the "real MVPs"—the backbone of our success. The ultimate aspiration is a profitable company that fiercely champions its extraordinary people.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[1. This is Our Mission with Garrett Moss]]>
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<p>Welcome to the debut of "Too Big to Fail," Moss Utilities' official podcast. Host Angel Tavera, our Safety Manager, sits down with CEO Garrett Moss to unveil the purpose of this podcast and the meaning behind its name.</p>
<p>Garrett explains the title, "Too Big to Fail," embodies a core company conviction: our mission to uplift our teams and communities is simply too grand, too significant, to ever falter. It's a creed that underscores our unwavering commitment to triumph over adversity. The podcast itself is dedicated to our people, reflecting a "go big or go home" mentality.</p>
<p>The primary purpose of the podcast, as Garrett outlines, is to dramatically improve communication with our frontline field teams. While our office culture thrives, there's a deep-seated yearning to bridge the chasm, to truly connect with those who tirelessly forge our success in the field. This podcast becomes that vital conduit—a platform to share their stories, illuminate company milestones, and cultivate an undeniable sense of belonging, ensuring no one feels isolated but rather an integral thread in the tapestry of Moss Utilities.</p>
<p>Beyond communication, Garrett also touches on Moss Utilities' commitment to growth—not just in financials, but in continuous improvement and people development. This creates significant advancement opportunities, a key differentiator.</p>
<p>Garrett shares his personal journey, detailing how he started Moss Utilities from the ground up, learning from family struggles during the 2008 recession. He candidly discusses early challenges, including rapid growth and financial strain, and how relationships and loyalty with vendors and dedicated team members like Kelly and Parker were crucial for survival.</p>
<p>Angel Tavera concludes with a powerful message for our field teams: Moss Utilities is where careers are built. We're committed to investing in individual growth and fostering genuine belonging. Our field teams are the "real MVPs"—the backbone of our success. The ultimate aspiration is a profitable company that fiercely champions its extraordinary people.</p>]]>
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Welcome to the debut of "Too Big to Fail," Moss Utilities' official podcast. Host Angel Tavera, our Safety Manager, sits down with CEO Garrett Moss to unveil the purpose of this podcast and the meaning behind its name.
Garrett explains the title, "Too Big to Fail," embodies a core company conviction: our mission to uplift our teams and communities is simply too grand, too significant, to ever falter. It's a creed that underscores our unwavering commitment to triumph over adversity. The podcast itself is dedicated to our people, reflecting a "go big or go home" mentality.
The primary purpose of the podcast, as Garrett outlines, is to dramatically improve communication with our frontline field teams. While our office culture thrives, there's a deep-seated yearning to bridge the chasm, to truly connect with those who tirelessly forge our success in the field. This podcast becomes that vital conduit—a platform to share their stories, illuminate company milestones, and cultivate an undeniable sense of belonging, ensuring no one feels isolated but rather an integral thread in the tapestry of Moss Utilities.
Beyond communication, Garrett also touches on Moss Utilities' commitment to growth—not just in financials, but in continuous improvement and people development. This creates significant advancement opportunities, a key differentiator.
Garrett shares his personal journey, detailing how he started Moss Utilities from the ground up, learning from family struggles during the 2008 recession. He candidly discusses early challenges, including rapid growth and financial strain, and how relationships and loyalty with vendors and dedicated team members like Kelly and Parker were crucial for survival.
Angel Tavera concludes with a powerful message for our field teams: Moss Utilities is where careers are built. We're committed to investing in individual growth and fostering genuine belonging. Our field teams are the "real MVPs"—the backbone of our success. The ultimate aspiration is a profitable company that fiercely champions its extraordinary people.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Too Big To Fail Trailer]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2025 19:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Angel Tavera</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>Coming Soon! We're officially launching our company-wide podcast, and we're calling it "Too Big to Fail." ️ <br /><br />We initially wanted it to be just internal but decided it was too good not to share. The name isn't just a catchy title it's a statement. It embodies our unwavering commitment to building a better future. This isn't just for every single member of our team it's also for the communities we proudly serve. This isn't just about business it's about making a lasting impact.<br /><br />We're pulling back the curtain giving you an inside look at what makes us tick. We'll be sitting down with some of the best from all corners of our organization. This includes hearing stories from the field from field superintendents and foremen. To our "glue guys" in project management who fit in last-second change orders to take-offs while keeping all of our jobs on track all in a day's work. We'll talk to our estimators who grind out bids to make deadlines while building relationships throughout the real estate value chain. This podcast will showcase our proven process "The Moss Way." <br /><br />Get ready because "Too Big to Fail" will be hitting the airwaves very soon! You'll be able to tune in on YouTube Apple Podcasts and Spotify.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:04) - Too Big to Fail</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Coming Soon! We're officially launching our company-wide podcast, and we're calling it "Too Big to Fail." ️ We initially wanted it to be just internal but decided it was too good not to share. The name isn't just a catchy title it's a statement. It embodies our unwavering commitment to building a better future. This isn't just for every single member of our team it's also for the communities we proudly serve. This isn't just about business it's about making a lasting impact.We're pulling back the curtain giving you an inside look at what makes us tick. We'll be sitting down with some of the best from all corners of our organization. This includes hearing stories from the field from field superintendents and foremen. To our "glue guys" in project management who fit in last-second change orders to take-offs while keeping all of our jobs on track all in a day's work. We'll talk to our estimators who grind out bids to make deadlines while building relationships throughout the real estate value chain. This podcast will showcase our proven process "The Moss Way." Get ready because "Too Big to Fail" will be hitting the airwaves very soon! You'll be able to tune in on YouTube Apple Podcasts and Spotify.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Coming Soon! We're officially launching our company-wide podcast, and we're calling it "Too Big to Fail." ️ <br /><br />We initially wanted it to be just internal but decided it was too good not to share. The name isn't just a catchy title it's a statement. It embodies our unwavering commitment to building a better future. This isn't just for every single member of our team it's also for the communities we proudly serve. This isn't just about business it's about making a lasting impact.<br /><br />We're pulling back the curtain giving you an inside look at what makes us tick. We'll be sitting down with some of the best from all corners of our organization. This includes hearing stories from the field from field superintendents and foremen. To our "glue guys" in project management who fit in last-second change orders to take-offs while keeping all of our jobs on track all in a day's work. We'll talk to our estimators who grind out bids to make deadlines while building relationships throughout the real estate value chain. This podcast will showcase our proven process "The Moss Way." <br /><br />Get ready because "Too Big to Fail" will be hitting the airwaves very soon! You'll be able to tune in on YouTube Apple Podcasts and Spotify.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Coming Soon! We're officially launching our company-wide podcast, and we're calling it "Too Big to Fail." ️ We initially wanted it to be just internal but decided it was too good not to share. The name isn't just a catchy title it's a statement. It embodies our unwavering commitment to building a better future. This isn't just for every single member of our team it's also for the communities we proudly serve. This isn't just about business it's about making a lasting impact.We're pulling back the curtain giving you an inside look at what makes us tick. We'll be sitting down with some of the best from all corners of our organization. This includes hearing stories from the field from field superintendents and foremen. To our "glue guys" in project management who fit in last-second change orders to take-offs while keeping all of our jobs on track all in a day's work. We'll talk to our estimators who grind out bids to make deadlines while building relationships throughout the real estate value chain. This podcast will showcase our proven process "The Moss Way." Get ready because "Too Big to Fail" will be hitting the airwaves very soon! You'll be able to tune in on YouTube Apple Podcasts and Spotify.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Angel Tavera]]>
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