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        <description>Welcome to That Makes Total Sense! A podcast about exploring God’s generosity and justice. I’m Alexis Busetti - a Christian aiming to ask good questions and encourage you to do the same.

Every one of us is wired by God to live out generosity and justice, but sometimes the how eludes us. That Makes Total Sense! is a way for us to get together, posture ourselves as learners, and challenge one other to practice generosity and justice in a tangible way everyday.</description>
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                <itunes:subtitle>Welcome to That Makes Total Sense! A podcast about exploring God’s generosity and justice. I’m Alexis Busetti - a Christian aiming to ask good questions and encourage you to do the same.

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                    <![CDATA[Episode 375 - Kutter Callaway]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[Even though it’s close to Halloween, you won’t find me anywhere near a scary movie! Being afraid is a feeling I have generally tried to avoid for as long as I can remember. The sensations, both emotional and physical, are not appealing to me and certainly not comfortable. But what if they might have some benefit? This is a question I began thinking about as I read Kutter Callaway’s latest book, Be Afraid. Kutter, one of my former professors at Fuller Seminary, joins me to talk about the movie genre of horror through psychological and theological lenses and how films that … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-375-kutter-callaway/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 375 – Kutter Callaway</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Even though it’s close to Halloween, you won’t find me anywhere near a scary movie! Being afraid is a feeling I have generally tried to avoid for as long as I can remember. The sensations, both emotional and physical, are not appealing to me and certainly not comfortable. But what if they might have some benefit? This is a question I began thinking about as I read Kutter Callaway’s latest book, Be Afraid. Kutter, one of my former professors at Fuller Seminary, joins me to talk about the movie genre of horror through psychological and theological lenses and how films that … Continue reading Episode 375 – Kutter Callaway]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Even though it’s close to Halloween, you won’t find me anywhere near a scary movie! Being afraid is a feeling I have generally tried to avoid for as long as I can remember. The sensations, both emotional and physical, are not appealing to me and certainly not comfortable. But what if they might have some benefit? This is a question I began thinking about as I read Kutter Callaway’s latest book, Be Afraid. Kutter, one of my former professors at Fuller Seminary, joins me to talk about the movie genre of horror through psychological and theological lenses and how films that … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-375-kutter-callaway/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 375 – Kutter Callaway</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Even though it’s close to Halloween, you won’t find me anywhere near a scary movie! Being afraid is a feeling I have generally tried to avoid for as long as I can remember. The sensations, both emotional and physical, are not appealing to me and certainly not comfortable. But what if they might have some benefit? This is a question I began thinking about as I read Kutter Callaway’s latest book, Be Afraid. Kutter, one of my former professors at Fuller Seminary, joins me to talk about the movie genre of horror through psychological and theological lenses and how films that … Continue reading Episode 375 – Kutter Callaway]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 374 - Chris Hoklotubbe & Danny Zacharias (replay!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2026 03:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[Celebrating Indigenous Peoples’ Day! This episode with Native theologians, Chris Hoklotubbe and Danny Zacharias was super fun to record. As a bonus, check out the Payton Lectures, where Chris and Danny were the keynote speakers at Fuller Seminary just a few weeks after we spoke. Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read – and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris’s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), Indigenous … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-374-chris-hoklotubbe-danny-zacharias-replay/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 374 – Chris Hoklotubbe &amp; Danny Zacharias (replay!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Celebrating Indigenous Peoples’ Day! This episode with Native theologians, Chris Hoklotubbe and Danny Zacharias was super fun to record. As a bonus, check out the Payton Lectures, where Chris and Danny were the keynote speakers at Fuller Seminary just a few weeks after we spoke. Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read – and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris’s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), Indigenous … Continue reading Episode 374 – Chris Hoklotubbe & Danny Zacharias (replay!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Celebrating Indigenous Peoples’ Day! This episode with Native theologians, Chris Hoklotubbe and Danny Zacharias was super fun to record. As a bonus, check out the Payton Lectures, where Chris and Danny were the keynote speakers at Fuller Seminary just a few weeks after we spoke. Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read – and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris’s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), Indigenous … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-374-chris-hoklotubbe-danny-zacharias-replay/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 374 – Chris Hoklotubbe &amp; Danny Zacharias (replay!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Celebrating Indigenous Peoples’ Day! This episode with Native theologians, Chris Hoklotubbe and Danny Zacharias was super fun to record. As a bonus, check out the Payton Lectures, where Chris and Danny were the keynote speakers at Fuller Seminary just a few weeks after we spoke. Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read – and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris’s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), Indigenous … Continue reading Episode 374 – Chris Hoklotubbe & Danny Zacharias (replay!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 373 - Munther Isaac]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2026 21:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[It was an honor to host Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac, Palestinian pastor, author, and Director of Bethlehem Institute for Peace &amp; Justice. We spent our time talking about Christian Zionism, a view that is prevalent in many Christian, especially evangelical, circles though many congregants and pastors may not recognize it explicitly. Munther takes the time in this conversation to define the term and draw our attention to its impacts, especially for Palestinians, historically and in this post-October 7th world. If this conversation piqued your interest, be sure to check out the links below which include opportunities to learn more. Mentioned in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-373-munther-isaac/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 373 – Munther Isaac</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was an honor to host Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac, Palestinian pastor, author, and Director of Bethlehem Institute for Peace & Justice. We spent our time talking about Christian Zionism, a view that is prevalent in many Christian, especially evangelical, circles though many congregants and pastors may not recognize it explicitly. Munther takes the time in this conversation to define the term and draw our attention to its impacts, especially for Palestinians, historically and in this post-October 7th world. If this conversation piqued your interest, be sure to check out the links below which include opportunities to learn more. Mentioned in … Continue reading Episode 373 – Munther Isaac]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was an honor to host Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac, Palestinian pastor, author, and Director of Bethlehem Institute for Peace &amp; Justice. We spent our time talking about Christian Zionism, a view that is prevalent in many Christian, especially evangelical, circles though many congregants and pastors may not recognize it explicitly. Munther takes the time in this conversation to define the term and draw our attention to its impacts, especially for Palestinians, historically and in this post-October 7th world. If this conversation piqued your interest, be sure to check out the links below which include opportunities to learn more. Mentioned in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-373-munther-isaac/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 373 – Munther Isaac</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was an honor to host Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac, Palestinian pastor, author, and Director of Bethlehem Institute for Peace & Justice. We spent our time talking about Christian Zionism, a view that is prevalent in many Christian, especially evangelical, circles though many congregants and pastors may not recognize it explicitly. Munther takes the time in this conversation to define the term and draw our attention to its impacts, especially for Palestinians, historically and in this post-October 7th world. If this conversation piqued your interest, be sure to check out the links below which include opportunities to learn more. Mentioned in … Continue reading Episode 373 – Munther Isaac]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 372 - Kira Ganga Kieffer]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2026 22:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[Kira Kieffer (PhD, Boston University) is a scholar of religion and has written a book on the intersection of vaccine hesitancy and religion called Unvaccinated Under God. The book covers my lifespan (so it’s hard for me to call it a history, lol), but it is not just a survey of the past, it is definitely prevalent in our current culture. From MMR to Covid to HPV, Kira covers the culture surrounding vaccine hesitancy and how the movement relates to religion and is in itself, in many ways, religious. Mentioned in this episode: Unvaccinated Under God: Religion and Vaccine Hesitancy in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-372-kira-ganga-kieffer/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 372 – Kira Ganga Kieffer</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kira Kieffer (PhD, Boston University) is a scholar of religion and has written a book on the intersection of vaccine hesitancy and religion called Unvaccinated Under God. The book covers my lifespan (so it’s hard for me to call it a history, lol), but it is not just a survey of the past, it is definitely prevalent in our current culture. From MMR to Covid to HPV, Kira covers the culture surrounding vaccine hesitancy and how the movement relates to religion and is in itself, in many ways, religious. Mentioned in this episode: Unvaccinated Under God: Religion and Vaccine Hesitancy in … Continue reading Episode 372 – Kira Ganga Kieffer]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kira Kieffer (PhD, Boston University) is a scholar of religion and has written a book on the intersection of vaccine hesitancy and religion called Unvaccinated Under God. The book covers my lifespan (so it’s hard for me to call it a history, lol), but it is not just a survey of the past, it is definitely prevalent in our current culture. From MMR to Covid to HPV, Kira covers the culture surrounding vaccine hesitancy and how the movement relates to religion and is in itself, in many ways, religious. Mentioned in this episode: Unvaccinated Under God: Religion and Vaccine Hesitancy in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-372-kira-ganga-kieffer/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 372 – Kira Ganga Kieffer</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kira Kieffer (PhD, Boston University) is a scholar of religion and has written a book on the intersection of vaccine hesitancy and religion called Unvaccinated Under God. The book covers my lifespan (so it’s hard for me to call it a history, lol), but it is not just a survey of the past, it is definitely prevalent in our current culture. From MMR to Covid to HPV, Kira covers the culture surrounding vaccine hesitancy and how the movement relates to religion and is in itself, in many ways, religious. Mentioned in this episode: Unvaccinated Under God: Religion and Vaccine Hesitancy in … Continue reading Episode 372 – Kira Ganga Kieffer]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:29:33</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 371 - Ben Norquist]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 21:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Ben Norquist and his co-author Brian Miller draw our attention to something we live in everyday, yet most of us hardly think about: place. In Every Somewhere Sacred and this conversation with Ben, we discuss how rootlessness, living everywhere and nowhere at the same time, affects our theology and ultimately how we live with one another and with God. Especially in the U.S., we have inherited a settler mindset from our founding that still impacts the narratives we believe about our surroundings and our general mentalities about he places we inhabit. Highlights for me included the topics of suburbia, imagination, terminology, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-371-ben-norquist/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 371 – Ben Norquist</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ben Norquist and his co-author Brian Miller draw our attention to something we live in everyday, yet most of us hardly think about: place. In Every Somewhere Sacred and this conversation with Ben, we discuss how rootlessness, living everywhere and nowhere at the same time, affects our theology and ultimately how we live with one another and with God. Especially in the U.S., we have inherited a settler mindset from our founding that still impacts the narratives we believe about our surroundings and our general mentalities about he places we inhabit. Highlights for me included the topics of suburbia, imagination, terminology, … Continue reading Episode 371 – Ben Norquist]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 371 - Ben Norquist]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ben Norquist and his co-author Brian Miller draw our attention to something we live in everyday, yet most of us hardly think about: place. In Every Somewhere Sacred and this conversation with Ben, we discuss how rootlessness, living everywhere and nowhere at the same time, affects our theology and ultimately how we live with one another and with God. Especially in the U.S., we have inherited a settler mindset from our founding that still impacts the narratives we believe about our surroundings and our general mentalities about he places we inhabit. Highlights for me included the topics of suburbia, imagination, terminology, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-371-ben-norquist/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 371 – Ben Norquist</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ben Norquist and his co-author Brian Miller draw our attention to something we live in everyday, yet most of us hardly think about: place. In Every Somewhere Sacred and this conversation with Ben, we discuss how rootlessness, living everywhere and nowhere at the same time, affects our theology and ultimately how we live with one another and with God. Especially in the U.S., we have inherited a settler mindset from our founding that still impacts the narratives we believe about our surroundings and our general mentalities about he places we inhabit. Highlights for me included the topics of suburbia, imagination, terminology, … Continue reading Episode 371 – Ben Norquist]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 370 - Sarah Stankorb]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2026 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Sarah Stankorb is a journalist, and former evangelical, who has her finger on the pulse of women and their relationship with the church in the U.S. In her most recent book, Damned If She Does, Sarah writes about what she discovers from talking to dozens of women about their experiences with church and why they have made the decision to leave. The reasons are as varied as the women expressing them, but there are some commonalities. Some women became disheartened by the inconsistency in morality within the church, others weren’t running from religion and consider themselves to be more religious now, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-370-sarah-stankorb/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 370 – Sarah Stankorb</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Sarah Stankorb is a journalist, and former evangelical, who has her finger on the pulse of women and their relationship with the church in the U.S. In her most recent book, Damned If She Does, Sarah writes about what she discovers from talking to dozens of women about their experiences with church and why they have made the decision to leave. The reasons are as varied as the women expressing them, but there are some commonalities. Some women became disheartened by the inconsistency in morality within the church, others weren’t running from religion and consider themselves to be more religious now, … Continue reading Episode 370 – Sarah Stankorb]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Sarah Stankorb is a journalist, and former evangelical, who has her finger on the pulse of women and their relationship with the church in the U.S. In her most recent book, Damned If She Does, Sarah writes about what she discovers from talking to dozens of women about their experiences with church and why they have made the decision to leave. The reasons are as varied as the women expressing them, but there are some commonalities. Some women became disheartened by the inconsistency in morality within the church, others weren’t running from religion and consider themselves to be more religious now, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-370-sarah-stankorb/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 370 – Sarah Stankorb</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Sarah Stankorb is a journalist, and former evangelical, who has her finger on the pulse of women and their relationship with the church in the U.S. In her most recent book, Damned If She Does, Sarah writes about what she discovers from talking to dozens of women about their experiences with church and why they have made the decision to leave. The reasons are as varied as the women expressing them, but there are some commonalities. Some women became disheartened by the inconsistency in morality within the church, others weren’t running from religion and consider themselves to be more religious now, … Continue reading Episode 370 – Sarah Stankorb]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 369 - Paul D. Miller (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 00:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Paul D. Miller is a scholar and professor at Georgetown University. He is a veteran and also served on the National Security Council. As a Christian, and deeply patriotic, Paul’s is a valuable voice on the topic of Christian nationalism. His most recent book, The Religion of American Greatness is the topic of our conversation and it is a must-listen (and must-read) for every Christian in America, no matter what our political leaning. Mentioned in this episode: The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism by Paul D. Miller Open Letter on Trump from GOP National Security Leaders, March 2, 2016 You might … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-369-paul-d-miller-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 369 – Paul D. Miller (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Paul D. Miller is a scholar and professor at Georgetown University. He is a veteran and also served on the National Security Council. As a Christian, and deeply patriotic, Paul’s is a valuable voice on the topic of Christian nationalism. His most recent book, The Religion of American Greatness is the topic of our conversation and it is a must-listen (and must-read) for every Christian in America, no matter what our political leaning. Mentioned in this episode: The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism by Paul D. Miller Open Letter on Trump from GOP National Security Leaders, March 2, 2016 You might … Continue reading Episode 369 – Paul D. Miller (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 369 - Paul D. Miller (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Paul D. Miller is a scholar and professor at Georgetown University. He is a veteran and also served on the National Security Council. As a Christian, and deeply patriotic, Paul’s is a valuable voice on the topic of Christian nationalism. His most recent book, The Religion of American Greatness is the topic of our conversation and it is a must-listen (and must-read) for every Christian in America, no matter what our political leaning. Mentioned in this episode: The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism by Paul D. Miller Open Letter on Trump from GOP National Security Leaders, March 2, 2016 You might … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-369-paul-d-miller-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 369 – Paul D. Miller (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Paul D. Miller is a scholar and professor at Georgetown University. He is a veteran and also served on the National Security Council. As a Christian, and deeply patriotic, Paul’s is a valuable voice on the topic of Christian nationalism. His most recent book, The Religion of American Greatness is the topic of our conversation and it is a must-listen (and must-read) for every Christian in America, no matter what our political leaning. Mentioned in this episode: The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism by Paul D. Miller Open Letter on Trump from GOP National Security Leaders, March 2, 2016 You might … Continue reading Episode 369 – Paul D. Miller (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:51:19</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 368 - Timothy McMahan King]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Timothy McMahan King is a deacon in the Episcopal church who has written on addiction as well as drug use and its historical relationship to spirituality. Hi newest book, What are Drugs For?, covers the latter and is the topic of our conversation in this episode. Tim explores humanity’s relationship with drugs and how that relationship has connected with our spirituality over the centuries in many different contexts, including Christianity. We use our theological imaginations quite a bit in this conversation to think outside of our current paradigms about drugs, ourselves, our bodies, and our ailments and how each of those … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-368-timothy-mcmahan-king/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 368 – Timothy McMahan King</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Timothy McMahan King is a deacon in the Episcopal church who has written on addiction as well as drug use and its historical relationship to spirituality. Hi newest book, What are Drugs For?, covers the latter and is the topic of our conversation in this episode. Tim explores humanity’s relationship with drugs and how that relationship has connected with our spirituality over the centuries in many different contexts, including Christianity. We use our theological imaginations quite a bit in this conversation to think outside of our current paradigms about drugs, ourselves, our bodies, and our ailments and how each of those … Continue reading Episode 368 – Timothy McMahan King]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 368 - Timothy McMahan King]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Timothy McMahan King is a deacon in the Episcopal church who has written on addiction as well as drug use and its historical relationship to spirituality. Hi newest book, What are Drugs For?, covers the latter and is the topic of our conversation in this episode. Tim explores humanity’s relationship with drugs and how that relationship has connected with our spirituality over the centuries in many different contexts, including Christianity. We use our theological imaginations quite a bit in this conversation to think outside of our current paradigms about drugs, ourselves, our bodies, and our ailments and how each of those … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-368-timothy-mcmahan-king/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 368 – Timothy McMahan King</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Timothy McMahan King is a deacon in the Episcopal church who has written on addiction as well as drug use and its historical relationship to spirituality. Hi newest book, What are Drugs For?, covers the latter and is the topic of our conversation in this episode. Tim explores humanity’s relationship with drugs and how that relationship has connected with our spirituality over the centuries in many different contexts, including Christianity. We use our theological imaginations quite a bit in this conversation to think outside of our current paradigms about drugs, ourselves, our bodies, and our ailments and how each of those … Continue reading Episode 368 – Timothy McMahan King]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:09:13</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 367 - Caryn Broitman]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2026 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-367-caryn-broitman</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Rabbi Caryn Broitman has an incredible new book out called The Torah is an Open Book in which she shares insights from Jewish interpretations of the Bible and how those interpretive concepts can help broaden how we understand the text. She serves a Reformed congregation in Martha’s Vineyard and was educated and ordained in the Reconstructionist tradition of Judaism. We talk about the importance of the Torah and the Hebrew Bible and how our interpretation of it matters, not just theologically, but in how we live our lives in community. Highlights of the conversation for me are our discussion of truth … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=27573" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 367 – Caryn Broitman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rabbi Caryn Broitman has an incredible new book out called The Torah is an Open Book in which she shares insights from Jewish interpretations of the Bible and how those interpretive concepts can help broaden how we understand the text. She serves a Reformed congregation in Martha’s Vineyard and was educated and ordained in the Reconstructionist tradition of Judaism. We talk about the importance of the Torah and the Hebrew Bible and how our interpretation of it matters, not just theologically, but in how we live our lives in community. Highlights of the conversation for me are our discussion of truth … Continue reading Episode 367 – Caryn Broitman]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 367 - Caryn Broitman]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rabbi Caryn Broitman has an incredible new book out called The Torah is an Open Book in which she shares insights from Jewish interpretations of the Bible and how those interpretive concepts can help broaden how we understand the text. She serves a Reformed congregation in Martha’s Vineyard and was educated and ordained in the Reconstructionist tradition of Judaism. We talk about the importance of the Torah and the Hebrew Bible and how our interpretation of it matters, not just theologically, but in how we live our lives in community. Highlights of the conversation for me are our discussion of truth … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=27573" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 367 – Caryn Broitman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rabbi Caryn Broitman has an incredible new book out called The Torah is an Open Book in which she shares insights from Jewish interpretations of the Bible and how those interpretive concepts can help broaden how we understand the text. She serves a Reformed congregation in Martha’s Vineyard and was educated and ordained in the Reconstructionist tradition of Judaism. We talk about the importance of the Torah and the Hebrew Bible and how our interpretation of it matters, not just theologically, but in how we live our lives in community. Highlights of the conversation for me are our discussion of truth … Continue reading Episode 367 – Caryn Broitman]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:00:03</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 366 - Mary Fontana]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-366-mary-fontana</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Mary Fontana has written a beautiful memoir of sorts, not of a person, but of a place – Annunciation House. The home she writes of in Strangers in the Province of Joy is situated at the U.S.-Mexico border in El Paso, Texas and has provided temporary shelter and care for migrants, most often making their way north, from various places of origin south of this border. The small group of people who first inhabited the space and dreamed about what it might become did not initially have a vision for serving migrants. Their ideas were not too specific, only that they … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=27546" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 366 – Mary Fontana</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Mary Fontana has written a beautiful memoir of sorts, not of a person, but of a place – Annunciation House. The home she writes of in Strangers in the Province of Joy is situated at the U.S.-Mexico border in El Paso, Texas and has provided temporary shelter and care for migrants, most often making their way north, from various places of origin south of this border. The small group of people who first inhabited the space and dreamed about what it might become did not initially have a vision for serving migrants. Their ideas were not too specific, only that they … Continue reading Episode 366 – Mary Fontana]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 366 - Mary Fontana]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Mary Fontana has written a beautiful memoir of sorts, not of a person, but of a place – Annunciation House. The home she writes of in Strangers in the Province of Joy is situated at the U.S.-Mexico border in El Paso, Texas and has provided temporary shelter and care for migrants, most often making their way north, from various places of origin south of this border. The small group of people who first inhabited the space and dreamed about what it might become did not initially have a vision for serving migrants. Their ideas were not too specific, only that they … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=27546" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 366 – Mary Fontana</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Mary Fontana has written a beautiful memoir of sorts, not of a person, but of a place – Annunciation House. The home she writes of in Strangers in the Province of Joy is situated at the U.S.-Mexico border in El Paso, Texas and has provided temporary shelter and care for migrants, most often making their way north, from various places of origin south of this border. The small group of people who first inhabited the space and dreamed about what it might become did not initially have a vision for serving migrants. Their ideas were not too specific, only that they … Continue reading Episode 366 – Mary Fontana]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:06:02</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 365 - Wes Crawford]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2026 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Long time listeners of the podcast know that topics concerning religion and government come up quite a bit around here, so this episode is in good company! But this conversation with Wes Crawford doesn’t cover Christian Nationalism or politics, we primarily talk about civil religion and you’ll want to listen in because off all the texts I’ve read on the topic, One Nation Over God, might just explain it the best. Highlights include insights on why Wes, a long-time pastor and professor, wrote the book, nostalgia about Branson, MO (iykyk), defining civil religion, and the U.S.’s (at least perceived) moral mission. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=27517" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 365 – Wes Crawford</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Long time listeners of the podcast know that topics concerning religion and government come up quite a bit around here, so this episode is in good company! But this conversation with Wes Crawford doesn’t cover Christian Nationalism or politics, we primarily talk about civil religion and you’ll want to listen in because off all the texts I’ve read on the topic, One Nation Over God, might just explain it the best. Highlights include insights on why Wes, a long-time pastor and professor, wrote the book, nostalgia about Branson, MO (iykyk), defining civil religion, and the U.S.’s (at least perceived) moral mission. … Continue reading Episode 365 – Wes Crawford]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 365 - Wes Crawford]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Long time listeners of the podcast know that topics concerning religion and government come up quite a bit around here, so this episode is in good company! But this conversation with Wes Crawford doesn’t cover Christian Nationalism or politics, we primarily talk about civil religion and you’ll want to listen in because off all the texts I’ve read on the topic, One Nation Over God, might just explain it the best. Highlights include insights on why Wes, a long-time pastor and professor, wrote the book, nostalgia about Branson, MO (iykyk), defining civil religion, and the U.S.’s (at least perceived) moral mission. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=27517" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 365 – Wes Crawford</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Long time listeners of the podcast know that topics concerning religion and government come up quite a bit around here, so this episode is in good company! But this conversation with Wes Crawford doesn’t cover Christian Nationalism or politics, we primarily talk about civil religion and you’ll want to listen in because off all the texts I’ve read on the topic, One Nation Over God, might just explain it the best. Highlights include insights on why Wes, a long-time pastor and professor, wrote the book, nostalgia about Branson, MO (iykyk), defining civil religion, and the U.S.’s (at least perceived) moral mission. … Continue reading Episode 365 – Wes Crawford]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:25</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 364 - Rob Dixon]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2026 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-364-rob-dixon</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Rob Dixon has long been an ally to women in Christian spaces where patriarchy is often the default. In his recent book, Allies in Ministry, he has written specifically to other men who are exploring their role in supporting the women in their lives as they navigate these spaces that are not always hospitable to them or their gifts. Highlights from this episode include comparisons between egalitarianism and complementarianism, the frustration of “slowly but surely” in this process, defining the term ally, and how patriarchy and misogyny are embedded in the church. Mentioned in this episode: Allies in Ministry: How Men … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=27483" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 364 – Rob Dixon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rob Dixon has long been an ally to women in Christian spaces where patriarchy is often the default. In his recent book, Allies in Ministry, he has written specifically to other men who are exploring their role in supporting the women in their lives as they navigate these spaces that are not always hospitable to them or their gifts. Highlights from this episode include comparisons between egalitarianism and complementarianism, the frustration of “slowly but surely” in this process, defining the term ally, and how patriarchy and misogyny are embedded in the church. Mentioned in this episode: Allies in Ministry: How Men … Continue reading Episode 364 – Rob Dixon]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 364 - Rob Dixon]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rob Dixon has long been an ally to women in Christian spaces where patriarchy is often the default. In his recent book, Allies in Ministry, he has written specifically to other men who are exploring their role in supporting the women in their lives as they navigate these spaces that are not always hospitable to them or their gifts. Highlights from this episode include comparisons between egalitarianism and complementarianism, the frustration of “slowly but surely” in this process, defining the term ally, and how patriarchy and misogyny are embedded in the church. Mentioned in this episode: Allies in Ministry: How Men … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=27483" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 364 – Rob Dixon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rob Dixon has long been an ally to women in Christian spaces where patriarchy is often the default. In his recent book, Allies in Ministry, he has written specifically to other men who are exploring their role in supporting the women in their lives as they navigate these spaces that are not always hospitable to them or their gifts. Highlights from this episode include comparisons between egalitarianism and complementarianism, the frustration of “slowly but surely” in this process, defining the term ally, and how patriarchy and misogyny are embedded in the church. Mentioned in this episode: Allies in Ministry: How Men … Continue reading Episode 364 – Rob Dixon]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:38</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 363 - David Dault]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 22:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[It’s hard to describe this amazing conversation with David Dault or the book it was centered around, for that matter, The Accessorized Bible. One of the concepts David brings out, as a professor and someone who thinks about faith and the bible, a lot, is that we often make the bible into something it isn’t. And, even though we may not dispute the bible is any of the things we talked about – a book, a platform, a community, an accessory – what we fill the blanks in with, matters. A book that started as an idea about bibles that were … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-363-david-dault/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 363 – David Dault</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s hard to describe this amazing conversation with David Dault or the book it was centered around, for that matter, The Accessorized Bible. One of the concepts David brings out, as a professor and someone who thinks about faith and the bible, a lot, is that we often make the bible into something it isn’t. And, even though we may not dispute the bible is any of the things we talked about – a book, a platform, a community, an accessory – what we fill the blanks in with, matters. A book that started as an idea about bibles that were … Continue reading Episode 363 – David Dault]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 363 - David Dault]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s hard to describe this amazing conversation with David Dault or the book it was centered around, for that matter, The Accessorized Bible. One of the concepts David brings out, as a professor and someone who thinks about faith and the bible, a lot, is that we often make the bible into something it isn’t. And, even though we may not dispute the bible is any of the things we talked about – a book, a platform, a community, an accessory – what we fill the blanks in with, matters. A book that started as an idea about bibles that were … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-363-david-dault/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 363 – David Dault</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s hard to describe this amazing conversation with David Dault or the book it was centered around, for that matter, The Accessorized Bible. One of the concepts David brings out, as a professor and someone who thinks about faith and the bible, a lot, is that we often make the bible into something it isn’t. And, even though we may not dispute the bible is any of the things we talked about – a book, a platform, a community, an accessory – what we fill the blanks in with, matters. A book that started as an idea about bibles that were … Continue reading Episode 363 – David Dault]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:14:21</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 362 - Scot McKnight & Adrienne Gibson]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 23:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-362-scot-mcknight-amp-adrienne-gibson</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[The subject of trauma seems to be everywhere, and while this can be a good thing (it allows us to speak more freely and perhaps, feel more understood), it can also be challenging, especially in Christian communities where the subject has been misunderstood and often hidden (all the while potentially traumatizing events are happening with frequency). This is why I’m grateful for teams like therapist, Adrienne Gibson, and biblical scholar, Scot McKnight, who combine their areas of expertise in order to help Christians respond well to each other where trauma exists. Some highlights include learning to empathize with Paul (some hate … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-362-scot-mcknight-adrienne-gibson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 362 – Scot McKnight &amp; Adrienne Gibson</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The subject of trauma seems to be everywhere, and while this can be a good thing (it allows us to speak more freely and perhaps, feel more understood), it can also be challenging, especially in Christian communities where the subject has been misunderstood and often hidden (all the while potentially traumatizing events are happening with frequency). This is why I’m grateful for teams like therapist, Adrienne Gibson, and biblical scholar, Scot McKnight, who combine their areas of expertise in order to help Christians respond well to each other where trauma exists. Some highlights include learning to empathize with Paul (some hate … Continue reading Episode 362 – Scot McKnight & Adrienne Gibson]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 362 - Scot McKnight & Adrienne Gibson]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The subject of trauma seems to be everywhere, and while this can be a good thing (it allows us to speak more freely and perhaps, feel more understood), it can also be challenging, especially in Christian communities where the subject has been misunderstood and often hidden (all the while potentially traumatizing events are happening with frequency). This is why I’m grateful for teams like therapist, Adrienne Gibson, and biblical scholar, Scot McKnight, who combine their areas of expertise in order to help Christians respond well to each other where trauma exists. Some highlights include learning to empathize with Paul (some hate … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-362-scot-mcknight-adrienne-gibson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 362 – Scot McKnight &amp; Adrienne Gibson</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The subject of trauma seems to be everywhere, and while this can be a good thing (it allows us to speak more freely and perhaps, feel more understood), it can also be challenging, especially in Christian communities where the subject has been misunderstood and often hidden (all the while potentially traumatizing events are happening with frequency). This is why I’m grateful for teams like therapist, Adrienne Gibson, and biblical scholar, Scot McKnight, who combine their areas of expertise in order to help Christians respond well to each other where trauma exists. Some highlights include learning to empathize with Paul (some hate … Continue reading Episode 362 – Scot McKnight & Adrienne Gibson]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:46:37</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 361 - Natalia Terfa]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 14:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[There is something about Natalia Terfa‘s new book, It All Counts, that feels like coming home to me. It’s probably because, like many of us, for decades, I have been taught that being with God, experiencing the presence of the Holy Spirit, being a Christian must look a certain way. There’s a formula for how we go about doing such things and if it doesn’t fit tidily within certain parameters, it doesn’t count. (For an Enneagram 1, this can be particularly difficult to break free from.) Natalia (also an Enneagram 1) asks a lot of questions about why that is and how we can … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-361-natalia-terfa/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 361 – Natalia Terfa</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[There is something about Natalia Terfa‘s new book, It All Counts, that feels like coming home to me. It’s probably because, like many of us, for decades, I have been taught that being with God, experiencing the presence of the Holy Spirit, being a Christian must look a certain way. There’s a formula for how we go about doing such things and if it doesn’t fit tidily within certain parameters, it doesn’t count. (For an Enneagram 1, this can be particularly difficult to break free from.) Natalia (also an Enneagram 1) asks a lot of questions about why that is and how we can … Continue reading Episode 361 – Natalia Terfa]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 361 - Natalia Terfa]]>
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                    <![CDATA[There is something about Natalia Terfa‘s new book, It All Counts, that feels like coming home to me. It’s probably because, like many of us, for decades, I have been taught that being with God, experiencing the presence of the Holy Spirit, being a Christian must look a certain way. There’s a formula for how we go about doing such things and if it doesn’t fit tidily within certain parameters, it doesn’t count. (For an Enneagram 1, this can be particularly difficult to break free from.) Natalia (also an Enneagram 1) asks a lot of questions about why that is and how we can … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-361-natalia-terfa/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 361 – Natalia Terfa</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[There is something about Natalia Terfa‘s new book, It All Counts, that feels like coming home to me. It’s probably because, like many of us, for decades, I have been taught that being with God, experiencing the presence of the Holy Spirit, being a Christian must look a certain way. There’s a formula for how we go about doing such things and if it doesn’t fit tidily within certain parameters, it doesn’t count. (For an Enneagram 1, this can be particularly difficult to break free from.) Natalia (also an Enneagram 1) asks a lot of questions about why that is and how we can … Continue reading Episode 361 – Natalia Terfa]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:18:15</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 360 - Andrew Whitehead (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2026 22:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2519748</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-360-andrew-whitehead-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This weekend, our nation turned 250 years old! For many, the celebration was not without complicated feelings. Yes, we are grateful, and we also grieve. So, we thought this would be the perfect time to re-release one of our favorite episodes that speaks to some of those complexities and how we can respond to them. Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us – the lay Christian in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-360-andrew-whitehead-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 360 – Andrew Whitehead (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[This weekend, our nation turned 250 years old! For many, the celebration was not without complicated feelings. Yes, we are grateful, and we also grieve. So, we thought this would be the perfect time to re-release one of our favorite episodes that speaks to some of those complexities and how we can respond to them. Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us – the lay Christian in … Continue reading Episode 360 – Andrew Whitehead (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 360 - Andrew Whitehead (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This weekend, our nation turned 250 years old! For many, the celebration was not without complicated feelings. Yes, we are grateful, and we also grieve. So, we thought this would be the perfect time to re-release one of our favorite episodes that speaks to some of those complexities and how we can respond to them. Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us – the lay Christian in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-360-andrew-whitehead-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 360 – Andrew Whitehead (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This weekend, our nation turned 250 years old! For many, the celebration was not without complicated feelings. Yes, we are grateful, and we also grieve. So, we thought this would be the perfect time to re-release one of our favorite episodes that speaks to some of those complexities and how we can respond to them. Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us – the lay Christian in … Continue reading Episode 360 – Andrew Whitehead (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:16</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 359 - Scott Bessenecker]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 21:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-359-scott-bessenecker</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Scott Bessenecker has been in Christian ministry for decades which puts him in a unique position to bring a critical eye to the way our religion is practiced. For many, church hurt is recent. It is something we have experienced personally, and for which are seeking healing urgently. Scott reminds, though, that while the injuries are current, Christianity also has a historical track record steeped in violence, misuse of power, putting profits over people, and judgment. While I read, the quote credited to Augustine came to mind – the church is a whore, but she is my mother. Intentionally, Scott’s book … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-359-scott-bessenecker/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 359 – Scott Bessenecker</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Scott Bessenecker has been in Christian ministry for decades which puts him in a unique position to bring a critical eye to the way our religion is practiced. For many, church hurt is recent. It is something we have experienced personally, and for which are seeking healing urgently. Scott reminds, though, that while the injuries are current, Christianity also has a historical track record steeped in violence, misuse of power, putting profits over people, and judgment. While I read, the quote credited to Augustine came to mind – the church is a whore, but she is my mother. Intentionally, Scott’s book … Continue reading Episode 359 – Scott Bessenecker]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 359 - Scott Bessenecker]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Scott Bessenecker has been in Christian ministry for decades which puts him in a unique position to bring a critical eye to the way our religion is practiced. For many, church hurt is recent. It is something we have experienced personally, and for which are seeking healing urgently. Scott reminds, though, that while the injuries are current, Christianity also has a historical track record steeped in violence, misuse of power, putting profits over people, and judgment. While I read, the quote credited to Augustine came to mind – the church is a whore, but she is my mother. Intentionally, Scott’s book … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-359-scott-bessenecker/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 359 – Scott Bessenecker</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Scott Bessenecker has been in Christian ministry for decades which puts him in a unique position to bring a critical eye to the way our religion is practiced. For many, church hurt is recent. It is something we have experienced personally, and for which are seeking healing urgently. Scott reminds, though, that while the injuries are current, Christianity also has a historical track record steeped in violence, misuse of power, putting profits over people, and judgment. While I read, the quote credited to Augustine came to mind – the church is a whore, but she is my mother. Intentionally, Scott’s book … Continue reading Episode 359 – Scott Bessenecker]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:03:12</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 358 - Jon Ward (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2501476</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-358-jon-ward-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Producer’s pick! With a fun-filled (and restful) Father’s Day weekend, my husband and producer, Seth, picked one of his favorite episodes to share again! This one with journalist, Jon Ward, is still as relevant today as it was when it originally aired in 2023 (and was the top-listened episode of that year!). Seth mentioned that many of the topics Jon and I discussed were just beginning to play out and others felt like predictions from a perceptive observer, now playing out more vividly. I hope you enjoy this as much as we all did the first time around! And the most … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-358-jon-ward-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 358 – Jon Ward (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick! With a fun-filled (and restful) Father’s Day weekend, my husband and producer, Seth, picked one of his favorite episodes to share again! This one with journalist, Jon Ward, is still as relevant today as it was when it originally aired in 2023 (and was the top-listened episode of that year!). Seth mentioned that many of the topics Jon and I discussed were just beginning to play out and others felt like predictions from a perceptive observer, now playing out more vividly. I hope you enjoy this as much as we all did the first time around! And the most … Continue reading Episode 358 – Jon Ward (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 358 - Jon Ward (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick! With a fun-filled (and restful) Father’s Day weekend, my husband and producer, Seth, picked one of his favorite episodes to share again! This one with journalist, Jon Ward, is still as relevant today as it was when it originally aired in 2023 (and was the top-listened episode of that year!). Seth mentioned that many of the topics Jon and I discussed were just beginning to play out and others felt like predictions from a perceptive observer, now playing out more vividly. I hope you enjoy this as much as we all did the first time around! And the most … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-358-jon-ward-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 358 – Jon Ward (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick! With a fun-filled (and restful) Father’s Day weekend, my husband and producer, Seth, picked one of his favorite episodes to share again! This one with journalist, Jon Ward, is still as relevant today as it was when it originally aired in 2023 (and was the top-listened episode of that year!). Seth mentioned that many of the topics Jon and I discussed were just beginning to play out and others felt like predictions from a perceptive observer, now playing out more vividly. I hope you enjoy this as much as we all did the first time around! And the most … Continue reading Episode 358 – Jon Ward (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:02</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 357 - Varina Willse]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 00:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2492910</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-357-varina-willse</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Oh my gosh! I had soooo much fun chatting with Varina for this episode! She wrote a book on prepositions and God, which is just so fabulous. Beneath and Between contains chapters featuring 15 different prepositions and how they can be used to describe our relationship to God. Highlights for me included flashbacks to the cat poster that helped me learn prepositions in grade school, lol; prepositions as relational words; nouns for God falling flat; outsider art; God as beneath (very different from above, though God is also above…); and God as midwife, helping us with generative labor. I hope you … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-357-varina-willse/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 357 – Varina Willse</span></a>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Oh my gosh! I had soooo much fun chatting with Varina for this episode! She wrote a book on prepositions and God, which is just so fabulous. Beneath and Between contains chapters featuring 15 different prepositions and how they can be used to describe our relationship to God. Highlights for me included flashbacks to the cat poster that helped me learn prepositions in grade school, lol; prepositions as relational words; nouns for God falling flat; outsider art; God as beneath (very different from above, though God is also above…); and God as midwife, helping us with generative labor. I hope you … Continue reading Episode 357 – Varina Willse]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 357 - Varina Willse]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Oh my gosh! I had soooo much fun chatting with Varina for this episode! She wrote a book on prepositions and God, which is just so fabulous. Beneath and Between contains chapters featuring 15 different prepositions and how they can be used to describe our relationship to God. Highlights for me included flashbacks to the cat poster that helped me learn prepositions in grade school, lol; prepositions as relational words; nouns for God falling flat; outsider art; God as beneath (very different from above, though God is also above…); and God as midwife, helping us with generative labor. I hope you … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-357-varina-willse/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 357 – Varina Willse</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Oh my gosh! I had soooo much fun chatting with Varina for this episode! She wrote a book on prepositions and God, which is just so fabulous. Beneath and Between contains chapters featuring 15 different prepositions and how they can be used to describe our relationship to God. Highlights for me included flashbacks to the cat poster that helped me learn prepositions in grade school, lol; prepositions as relational words; nouns for God falling flat; outsider art; God as beneath (very different from above, though God is also above…); and God as midwife, helping us with generative labor. I hope you … Continue reading Episode 357 – Varina Willse]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:14:20</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 356 - Tiffany G. Townsend]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Talking with psychologist, Dr. Tiffany G. Townsend was truly a joy! One of the reasons I think I enjoyed it so much is because (by my own admission and maybe my husband’s observations, lol!) I can be a bit of a Debbie Downer sometimes. Meaning, when confronted with the realities of the world’s problems, it feels natural for me to look see the dark gray clouds instead of their silver linings. Tiffany recognizes both well and does not shy away from either. In her new book, Weathering the Storm, she recounts much of the history and also the current events pointing … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-356-tiffany-g-townsend/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 356 – Tiffany G. Townsend</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with psychologist, Dr. Tiffany G. Townsend was truly a joy! One of the reasons I think I enjoyed it so much is because (by my own admission and maybe my husband’s observations, lol!) I can be a bit of a Debbie Downer sometimes. Meaning, when confronted with the realities of the world’s problems, it feels natural for me to look see the dark gray clouds instead of their silver linings. Tiffany recognizes both well and does not shy away from either. In her new book, Weathering the Storm, she recounts much of the history and also the current events pointing … Continue reading Episode 356 – Tiffany G. Townsend]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 356 - Tiffany G. Townsend]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with psychologist, Dr. Tiffany G. Townsend was truly a joy! One of the reasons I think I enjoyed it so much is because (by my own admission and maybe my husband’s observations, lol!) I can be a bit of a Debbie Downer sometimes. Meaning, when confronted with the realities of the world’s problems, it feels natural for me to look see the dark gray clouds instead of their silver linings. Tiffany recognizes both well and does not shy away from either. In her new book, Weathering the Storm, she recounts much of the history and also the current events pointing … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-356-tiffany-g-townsend/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 356 – Tiffany G. Townsend</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with psychologist, Dr. Tiffany G. Townsend was truly a joy! One of the reasons I think I enjoyed it so much is because (by my own admission and maybe my husband’s observations, lol!) I can be a bit of a Debbie Downer sometimes. Meaning, when confronted with the realities of the world’s problems, it feels natural for me to look see the dark gray clouds instead of their silver linings. Tiffany recognizes both well and does not shy away from either. In her new book, Weathering the Storm, she recounts much of the history and also the current events pointing … Continue reading Episode 356 – Tiffany G. Townsend]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:03:26</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 354 - MaryAnn McKibben Dana]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[MaryAnn McKibben Dana gave me words, in this conversation and her new book Better Than Normal, that I have been searching for. When questions arise like – What makes this the standard? or How can I fit in here (or is that even necessary)? we sometimes don’t realize that we are actually questioning what is “normal.” For some of us, that can feel a little scary. The status quo feels nice, I mean, maybe it’s the status quo for a reason. But MaryAnn braves to ask not only, what is normal anyway, but how can we take steps toward living inclusive … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-354-maryann-mckibben-dana/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 354 – MaryAnn McKibben Dana</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[MaryAnn McKibben Dana gave me words, in this conversation and her new book Better Than Normal, that I have been searching for. When questions arise like – What makes this the standard? or How can I fit in here (or is that even necessary)? we sometimes don’t realize that we are actually questioning what is “normal.” For some of us, that can feel a little scary. The status quo feels nice, I mean, maybe it’s the status quo for a reason. But MaryAnn braves to ask not only, what is normal anyway, but how can we take steps toward living inclusive … Continue reading Episode 354 – MaryAnn McKibben Dana]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 354 - MaryAnn McKibben Dana]]>
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                    <![CDATA[MaryAnn McKibben Dana gave me words, in this conversation and her new book Better Than Normal, that I have been searching for. When questions arise like – What makes this the standard? or How can I fit in here (or is that even necessary)? we sometimes don’t realize that we are actually questioning what is “normal.” For some of us, that can feel a little scary. The status quo feels nice, I mean, maybe it’s the status quo for a reason. But MaryAnn braves to ask not only, what is normal anyway, but how can we take steps toward living inclusive … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-354-maryann-mckibben-dana/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 354 – MaryAnn McKibben Dana</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[MaryAnn McKibben Dana gave me words, in this conversation and her new book Better Than Normal, that I have been searching for. When questions arise like – What makes this the standard? or How can I fit in here (or is that even necessary)? we sometimes don’t realize that we are actually questioning what is “normal.” For some of us, that can feel a little scary. The status quo feels nice, I mean, maybe it’s the status quo for a reason. But MaryAnn braves to ask not only, what is normal anyway, but how can we take steps toward living inclusive … Continue reading Episode 354 – MaryAnn McKibben Dana]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:11:20</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 354 - Rose Marie Berger]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 23:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-354-rose-marie-berger</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Editor of Sojourners magazine, Rose Marie Berger, sat down with me to talk about the magazine’s recent edited volume, Light for the Way (which is phenomenal, by the way!). This collection is compiled from essays published in the magazine over the decades and yet, it is amazing how many of them feel like they were written just for today. Spoiler alert, we asked more questions than we answered – which is my favorite kind of conversation! My hope as you listen and read, is that you’ll be encouraged by what you encounter and that the wisdom found in these voices, new … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-354-rose-marie-berger/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 354 – Rose Marie Berger</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Editor of Sojourners magazine, Rose Marie Berger, sat down with me to talk about the magazine’s recent edited volume, Light for the Way (which is phenomenal, by the way!). This collection is compiled from essays published in the magazine over the decades and yet, it is amazing how many of them feel like they were written just for today. Spoiler alert, we asked more questions than we answered – which is my favorite kind of conversation! My hope as you listen and read, is that you’ll be encouraged by what you encounter and that the wisdom found in these voices, new … Continue reading Episode 354 – Rose Marie Berger]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 354 - Rose Marie Berger]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Editor of Sojourners magazine, Rose Marie Berger, sat down with me to talk about the magazine’s recent edited volume, Light for the Way (which is phenomenal, by the way!). This collection is compiled from essays published in the magazine over the decades and yet, it is amazing how many of them feel like they were written just for today. Spoiler alert, we asked more questions than we answered – which is my favorite kind of conversation! My hope as you listen and read, is that you’ll be encouraged by what you encounter and that the wisdom found in these voices, new … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-354-rose-marie-berger/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 354 – Rose Marie Berger</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Editor of Sojourners magazine, Rose Marie Berger, sat down with me to talk about the magazine’s recent edited volume, Light for the Way (which is phenomenal, by the way!). This collection is compiled from essays published in the magazine over the decades and yet, it is amazing how many of them feel like they were written just for today. Spoiler alert, we asked more questions than we answered – which is my favorite kind of conversation! My hope as you listen and read, is that you’ll be encouraged by what you encounter and that the wisdom found in these voices, new … Continue reading Episode 354 – Rose Marie Berger]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:34</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 353 - Adriel Booker]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 00:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I’m already intrigued by anyone who has a skydiving story (that will *never* be me!), and Adriel Booker’s is (literally) one for the books! She opens her fabulous volume, Tethered to Hope with a story of jumping from a plane, secured to an instructor in her early twenties and the harrowing moments that followed. The remaining chapters are just as enthralling and so are the questions that still remain with me after I finished the book and this incredible conversation. We chat about self-compassion, faith, God’s silence, and wrestling. If you’ve ever been unsure of how to keep hope alive … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-353-adriel-booker/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 353 – Adriel Booker</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I’m already intrigued by anyone who has a skydiving story (that will *never* be me!), and Adriel Booker’s is (literally) one for the books! She opens her fabulous volume, Tethered to Hope with a story of jumping from a plane, secured to an instructor in her early twenties and the harrowing moments that followed. The remaining chapters are just as enthralling and so are the questions that still remain with me after I finished the book and this incredible conversation. We chat about self-compassion, faith, God’s silence, and wrestling. If you’ve ever been unsure of how to keep hope alive … Continue reading Episode 353 – Adriel Booker]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 353 - Adriel Booker]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I’m already intrigued by anyone who has a skydiving story (that will *never* be me!), and Adriel Booker’s is (literally) one for the books! She opens her fabulous volume, Tethered to Hope with a story of jumping from a plane, secured to an instructor in her early twenties and the harrowing moments that followed. The remaining chapters are just as enthralling and so are the questions that still remain with me after I finished the book and this incredible conversation. We chat about self-compassion, faith, God’s silence, and wrestling. If you’ve ever been unsure of how to keep hope alive … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-353-adriel-booker/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 353 – Adriel Booker</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I’m already intrigued by anyone who has a skydiving story (that will *never* be me!), and Adriel Booker’s is (literally) one for the books! She opens her fabulous volume, Tethered to Hope with a story of jumping from a plane, secured to an instructor in her early twenties and the harrowing moments that followed. The remaining chapters are just as enthralling and so are the questions that still remain with me after I finished the book and this incredible conversation. We chat about self-compassion, faith, God’s silence, and wrestling. If you’ve ever been unsure of how to keep hope alive … Continue reading Episode 353 – Adriel Booker]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:26:10</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 352 - Aimee Byrd (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 02:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-352-aimee-byrd-re-release</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to her, but how she is processing and healing from those traumatic events and seeing herself, God, and others more clearly on the other side. Unfortunately, her experiences are incredibly common in Christian communities, and the wisdom she shares is another tool to help those of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-352-aimee-byrd-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 352 – Aimee Byrd (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to her, but how she is processing and healing from those traumatic events and seeing herself, God, and others more clearly on the other side. Unfortunately, her experiences are incredibly common in Christian communities, and the wisdom she shares is another tool to help those of … Continue reading Episode 352 – Aimee Byrd (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 352 - Aimee Byrd (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to her, but how she is processing and healing from those traumatic events and seeing herself, God, and others more clearly on the other side. Unfortunately, her experiences are incredibly common in Christian communities, and the wisdom she shares is another tool to help those of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-352-aimee-byrd-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 352 – Aimee Byrd (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to her, but how she is processing and healing from those traumatic events and seeing herself, God, and others more clearly on the other side. Unfortunately, her experiences are incredibly common in Christian communities, and the wisdom she shares is another tool to help those of … Continue reading Episode 352 – Aimee Byrd (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:25</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 315 - Amar Peterman]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-315-amar-peterman</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Have you ever heard a phrase that sticks with you? So much so, that you find yourself turning it over again and again in your mind, discovering its relevance to new situations in your life? Sometimes those brief sentences can have massive impact on how we think and interact with the world. Well, from my perspective, Becoming Neighbors by Amar Peterman is one of those text that is packed full of phrases like that. It seemed that every time I turned one of the pages in this short but deep volume I ran into another sentence that would stay with … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-315-amar-peterman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 315 – Amar Peterman</span></a>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Have you ever heard a phrase that sticks with you? So much so, that you find yourself turning it over again and again in your mind, discovering its relevance to new situations in your life? Sometimes those brief sentences can have massive impact on how we think and interact with the world. Well, from my perspective, Becoming Neighbors by Amar Peterman is one of those text that is packed full of phrases like that. It seemed that every time I turned one of the pages in this short but deep volume I ran into another sentence that would stay with … Continue reading Episode 315 – Amar Peterman]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 315 - Amar Peterman]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Have you ever heard a phrase that sticks with you? So much so, that you find yourself turning it over again and again in your mind, discovering its relevance to new situations in your life? Sometimes those brief sentences can have massive impact on how we think and interact with the world. Well, from my perspective, Becoming Neighbors by Amar Peterman is one of those text that is packed full of phrases like that. It seemed that every time I turned one of the pages in this short but deep volume I ran into another sentence that would stay with … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-315-amar-peterman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 315 – Amar Peterman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Have you ever heard a phrase that sticks with you? So much so, that you find yourself turning it over again and again in your mind, discovering its relevance to new situations in your life? Sometimes those brief sentences can have massive impact on how we think and interact with the world. Well, from my perspective, Becoming Neighbors by Amar Peterman is one of those text that is packed full of phrases like that. It seemed that every time I turned one of the pages in this short but deep volume I ran into another sentence that would stay with … Continue reading Episode 315 – Amar Peterman]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:50</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 350 - Jared Stacy]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 12:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Author and scholar Jared Stacy joins me for this episode to talk about conspiracism and evangelicalism in the United States. Many of us have probably noticed that these two seem to walk hand in hand, but have we stopped to ask ourselves how they are connected and in what ways that connection might be true in our own belief systems? Jared helps by identifying some of the historical and theological bridges between conspiracism and evangelicalism and offers some ways to counter what has become so common in many American church cultures. Mentioned in this episode: Reality in Ruins: How Conspiracy … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-350-jared-stacy/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 350 – Jared Stacy</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Author and scholar Jared Stacy joins me for this episode to talk about conspiracism and evangelicalism in the United States. Many of us have probably noticed that these two seem to walk hand in hand, but have we stopped to ask ourselves how they are connected and in what ways that connection might be true in our own belief systems? Jared helps by identifying some of the historical and theological bridges between conspiracism and evangelicalism and offers some ways to counter what has become so common in many American church cultures. Mentioned in this episode: Reality in Ruins: How Conspiracy … Continue reading Episode 350 – Jared Stacy]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 350 - Jared Stacy]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Author and scholar Jared Stacy joins me for this episode to talk about conspiracism and evangelicalism in the United States. Many of us have probably noticed that these two seem to walk hand in hand, but have we stopped to ask ourselves how they are connected and in what ways that connection might be true in our own belief systems? Jared helps by identifying some of the historical and theological bridges between conspiracism and evangelicalism and offers some ways to counter what has become so common in many American church cultures. Mentioned in this episode: Reality in Ruins: How Conspiracy … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-350-jared-stacy/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 350 – Jared Stacy</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Author and scholar Jared Stacy joins me for this episode to talk about conspiracism and evangelicalism in the United States. Many of us have probably noticed that these two seem to walk hand in hand, but have we stopped to ask ourselves how they are connected and in what ways that connection might be true in our own belief systems? Jared helps by identifying some of the historical and theological bridges between conspiracism and evangelicalism and offers some ways to counter what has become so common in many American church cultures. Mentioned in this episode: Reality in Ruins: How Conspiracy … Continue reading Episode 350 – Jared Stacy]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:17:27</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 349 - Kelly Flanagan]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 23:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-349-kelly-flanagan</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Third time’s a charm with psychologist, Dr. Kelly Flanagan! (Though the first two recordings with Kelly were amazing as well!) His newest book, The Road Less Triggered, is phenomenal. We talked a lot about how to have the posture of an open heart, especially at moments when we’re so tempted to close it off. This is helpful in our internal and interpersonal lives, but the concept is also invaluable in our current cultural and political context. The notes and dog-ears on my copy only begin to testify to how grateful I am for Kelly’s work in this area! Aha moments … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-349-kelly-flanagan/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 349 – Kelly Flanagan</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Third time’s a charm with psychologist, Dr. Kelly Flanagan! (Though the first two recordings with Kelly were amazing as well!) His newest book, The Road Less Triggered, is phenomenal. We talked a lot about how to have the posture of an open heart, especially at moments when we’re so tempted to close it off. This is helpful in our internal and interpersonal lives, but the concept is also invaluable in our current cultural and political context. The notes and dog-ears on my copy only begin to testify to how grateful I am for Kelly’s work in this area! Aha moments … Continue reading Episode 349 – Kelly Flanagan]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 349 - Kelly Flanagan]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Third time’s a charm with psychologist, Dr. Kelly Flanagan! (Though the first two recordings with Kelly were amazing as well!) His newest book, The Road Less Triggered, is phenomenal. We talked a lot about how to have the posture of an open heart, especially at moments when we’re so tempted to close it off. This is helpful in our internal and interpersonal lives, but the concept is also invaluable in our current cultural and political context. The notes and dog-ears on my copy only begin to testify to how grateful I am for Kelly’s work in this area! Aha moments … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-349-kelly-flanagan/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 349 – Kelly Flanagan</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Third time’s a charm with psychologist, Dr. Kelly Flanagan! (Though the first two recordings with Kelly were amazing as well!) His newest book, The Road Less Triggered, is phenomenal. We talked a lot about how to have the posture of an open heart, especially at moments when we’re so tempted to close it off. This is helpful in our internal and interpersonal lives, but the concept is also invaluable in our current cultural and political context. The notes and dog-ears on my copy only begin to testify to how grateful I am for Kelly’s work in this area! Aha moments … Continue reading Episode 349 – Kelly Flanagan]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:16:52</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 348 - L. Daniel Hawk]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 11:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-348-l-daniel-hawk</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Growing up in Oklahoma (read 12 years of public school history classes), you’d think I would have taken in droves of information about our nation’s history with Indigenous peoples. After all, Oklahoma has one of the highest populations of Native Americans in the U.S. and, if you understand some of the basic history, you’ll know that’s no accident. Our government, intentionally drove many tribes to that central location through often lethal trails on their way to fulfilling manifest destiny. In L. Daniel Hawk’s new book, Undoing Manifest Destiny, the history I wasn’t exposed to in school (with receipts!) kept me … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-348-l-daniel-hawk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 348 – L. Daniel Hawk</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Growing up in Oklahoma (read 12 years of public school history classes), you’d think I would have taken in droves of information about our nation’s history with Indigenous peoples. After all, Oklahoma has one of the highest populations of Native Americans in the U.S. and, if you understand some of the basic history, you’ll know that’s no accident. Our government, intentionally drove many tribes to that central location through often lethal trails on their way to fulfilling manifest destiny. In L. Daniel Hawk’s new book, Undoing Manifest Destiny, the history I wasn’t exposed to in school (with receipts!) kept me … Continue reading Episode 348 – L. Daniel Hawk]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 348 - L. Daniel Hawk]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Growing up in Oklahoma (read 12 years of public school history classes), you’d think I would have taken in droves of information about our nation’s history with Indigenous peoples. After all, Oklahoma has one of the highest populations of Native Americans in the U.S. and, if you understand some of the basic history, you’ll know that’s no accident. Our government, intentionally drove many tribes to that central location through often lethal trails on their way to fulfilling manifest destiny. In L. Daniel Hawk’s new book, Undoing Manifest Destiny, the history I wasn’t exposed to in school (with receipts!) kept me … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-348-l-daniel-hawk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 348 – L. Daniel Hawk</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Growing up in Oklahoma (read 12 years of public school history classes), you’d think I would have taken in droves of information about our nation’s history with Indigenous peoples. After all, Oklahoma has one of the highest populations of Native Americans in the U.S. and, if you understand some of the basic history, you’ll know that’s no accident. Our government, intentionally drove many tribes to that central location through often lethal trails on their way to fulfilling manifest destiny. In L. Daniel Hawk’s new book, Undoing Manifest Destiny, the history I wasn’t exposed to in school (with receipts!) kept me … Continue reading Episode 348 – L. Daniel Hawk]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:14:20</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 347 - Amy Peeler (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2414719</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-347-amy-peeler-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we’d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother of Jesus, as a woman, revered and honored by God, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-347-amy-peeler-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 347 – Amy Peeler (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we’d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother of Jesus, as a woman, revered and honored by God, … Continue reading Episode 347 – Amy Peeler (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 347 - Amy Peeler (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we’d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother of Jesus, as a woman, revered and honored by God, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-347-amy-peeler-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 347 – Amy Peeler (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we’d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother of Jesus, as a woman, revered and honored by God, … Continue reading Episode 347 – Amy Peeler (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:48:05</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 346 - Sara Billups]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 00:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2408927</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-346-sara-billups</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[What a joy it is to welcome Sara Billups back to the podcast! We talked about a subject that is or has been near to each of us – anxiety. Sara has written a book that brings in her experiences with anxiety, as well as many of those of her family, and how they connect to various systems we encounter every day, including our Christian communities and political systems. In this episode we talk therapy, evangelical church culture, the end of the world, war, power, and caregiving (and so much more!). I’m so grateful for Sara’s voice in general and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-346-sara-billups/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 346 – Sara Billups</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[What a joy it is to welcome Sara Billups back to the podcast! We talked about a subject that is or has been near to each of us – anxiety. Sara has written a book that brings in her experiences with anxiety, as well as many of those of her family, and how they connect to various systems we encounter every day, including our Christian communities and political systems. In this episode we talk therapy, evangelical church culture, the end of the world, war, power, and caregiving (and so much more!). I’m so grateful for Sara’s voice in general and … Continue reading Episode 346 – Sara Billups]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 346 - Sara Billups]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What a joy it is to welcome Sara Billups back to the podcast! We talked about a subject that is or has been near to each of us – anxiety. Sara has written a book that brings in her experiences with anxiety, as well as many of those of her family, and how they connect to various systems we encounter every day, including our Christian communities and political systems. In this episode we talk therapy, evangelical church culture, the end of the world, war, power, and caregiving (and so much more!). I’m so grateful for Sara’s voice in general and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-346-sara-billups/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 346 – Sara Billups</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What a joy it is to welcome Sara Billups back to the podcast! We talked about a subject that is or has been near to each of us – anxiety. Sara has written a book that brings in her experiences with anxiety, as well as many of those of her family, and how they connect to various systems we encounter every day, including our Christian communities and political systems. In this episode we talk therapy, evangelical church culture, the end of the world, war, power, and caregiving (and so much more!). I’m so grateful for Sara’s voice in general and … Continue reading Episode 346 – Sara Billups]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:02</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 345 - Kristen Lee]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2403248</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-345-kristen-lee</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Kristen Lee‘s voice is such a gift! She an incredibly gifted author (and physician! – which we totally didn’t even touch on in this conversation), and I am so thrilled she has chosen to bring her experiences and research to us through her text, We Mend with Gold. She has written the book she wishes she would have had when she was navigating church spaces growing up and in young adulthood and I’m so glad she did! Even though our stories don’t share many particularities, she is an Asian American daughter of immigrants and I am a Mixed-Hispanic woman whose … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-345-kristen-lee/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 345 – Kristen Lee</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Kristen Lee‘s voice is such a gift! She an incredibly gifted author (and physician! – which we totally didn’t even touch on in this conversation), and I am so thrilled she has chosen to bring her experiences and research to us through her text, We Mend with Gold. She has written the book she wishes she would have had when she was navigating church spaces growing up and in young adulthood and I’m so glad she did! Even though our stories don’t share many particularities, she is an Asian American daughter of immigrants and I am a Mixed-Hispanic woman whose … Continue reading Episode 345 – Kristen Lee]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 345 - Kristen Lee]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kristen Lee‘s voice is such a gift! She an incredibly gifted author (and physician! – which we totally didn’t even touch on in this conversation), and I am so thrilled she has chosen to bring her experiences and research to us through her text, We Mend with Gold. She has written the book she wishes she would have had when she was navigating church spaces growing up and in young adulthood and I’m so glad she did! Even though our stories don’t share many particularities, she is an Asian American daughter of immigrants and I am a Mixed-Hispanic woman whose … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-345-kristen-lee/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 345 – Kristen Lee</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kristen Lee‘s voice is such a gift! She an incredibly gifted author (and physician! – which we totally didn’t even touch on in this conversation), and I am so thrilled she has chosen to bring her experiences and research to us through her text, We Mend with Gold. She has written the book she wishes she would have had when she was navigating church spaces growing up and in young adulthood and I’m so glad she did! Even though our stories don’t share many particularities, she is an Asian American daughter of immigrants and I am a Mixed-Hispanic woman whose … Continue reading Episode 345 – Kristen Lee]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:58:08</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 344 - Laura Baghdassarian Murray]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 01:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2397164</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-344-laura-baghdassarian-murray</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Talking with Laura Baghdassarian Murray was truly a delight! Even though the subject of this episode is hospitality, which is a topic that’s super familiar to me, our conversation took us through some territory that was a bit unexpected for me (that happens often when I talk to a spiritual director!). In this episode we talk about hospitality (of course!), what it feels like to be welcomed, interruptions, spiritual practices, and delicious, plentiful food! Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a Person of Welcome: The Spiritual Practice of Hospitality by Laura Baghdassarian Murray You might also enjoy: Ep. 089 with Lynda … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-344-laura-baghdassarian-murray/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 344 – Laura Baghdassarian Murray</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Talking with Laura Baghdassarian Murray was truly a delight! Even though the subject of this episode is hospitality, which is a topic that’s super familiar to me, our conversation took us through some territory that was a bit unexpected for me (that happens often when I talk to a spiritual director!). In this episode we talk about hospitality (of course!), what it feels like to be welcomed, interruptions, spiritual practices, and delicious, plentiful food! Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a Person of Welcome: The Spiritual Practice of Hospitality by Laura Baghdassarian Murray You might also enjoy: Ep. 089 with Lynda … Continue reading Episode 344 – Laura Baghdassarian Murray]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 344 - Laura Baghdassarian Murray]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with Laura Baghdassarian Murray was truly a delight! Even though the subject of this episode is hospitality, which is a topic that’s super familiar to me, our conversation took us through some territory that was a bit unexpected for me (that happens often when I talk to a spiritual director!). In this episode we talk about hospitality (of course!), what it feels like to be welcomed, interruptions, spiritual practices, and delicious, plentiful food! Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a Person of Welcome: The Spiritual Practice of Hospitality by Laura Baghdassarian Murray You might also enjoy: Ep. 089 with Lynda … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-344-laura-baghdassarian-murray/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 344 – Laura Baghdassarian Murray</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with Laura Baghdassarian Murray was truly a delight! Even though the subject of this episode is hospitality, which is a topic that’s super familiar to me, our conversation took us through some territory that was a bit unexpected for me (that happens often when I talk to a spiritual director!). In this episode we talk about hospitality (of course!), what it feels like to be welcomed, interruptions, spiritual practices, and delicious, plentiful food! Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a Person of Welcome: The Spiritual Practice of Hospitality by Laura Baghdassarian Murray You might also enjoy: Ep. 089 with Lynda … Continue reading Episode 344 – Laura Baghdassarian Murray]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:04:49</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 343 - Amy-Jill Levine (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 00:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This was one of my absolute favorite conversations! I am so thrilled to be able to share it – again! Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how we navigate this conversation) is to help us see and understand the historical Jesus and his context more deeply and help us gain understanding for how those interactions … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-373-amy-jill-levine-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 343 – Amy-Jill Levine (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This was one of my absolute favorite conversations! I am so thrilled to be able to share it – again! Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how we navigate this conversation) is to help us see and understand the historical Jesus and his context more deeply and help us gain understanding for how those interactions … Continue reading Episode 343 – Amy-Jill Levine (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 343 - Amy-Jill Levine (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This was one of my absolute favorite conversations! I am so thrilled to be able to share it – again! Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how we navigate this conversation) is to help us see and understand the historical Jesus and his context more deeply and help us gain understanding for how those interactions … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-373-amy-jill-levine-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 343 – Amy-Jill Levine (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This was one of my absolute favorite conversations! I am so thrilled to be able to share it – again! Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how we navigate this conversation) is to help us see and understand the historical Jesus and his context more deeply and help us gain understanding for how those interactions … Continue reading Episode 343 – Amy-Jill Levine (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:03:51</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 342 - Jenn Suen Chen]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2026 23:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Jenn Suen Chen‘s story is so very different from mine and also holds many similarities. Her new book, Dim Sum and Faith, is one to slow down with, letting the words and ideas simmer like a wonderfully rich broth (one that can also bring some healing with its warmth). She shares about her experiences as an Asian American Christian woman, and while many of the particulars between her story and mine are obviously different, I found many places of connection and I have a feeling you will, too. If you’ve ever struggled with exploring those parts of yourself that can … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-342-jenn-suen-chen/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 342 – Jenn Suen Chen</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[Jenn Suen Chen‘s story is so very different from mine and also holds many similarities. Her new book, Dim Sum and Faith, is one to slow down with, letting the words and ideas simmer like a wonderfully rich broth (one that can also bring some healing with its warmth). She shares about her experiences as an Asian American Christian woman, and while many of the particulars between her story and mine are obviously different, I found many places of connection and I have a feeling you will, too. If you’ve ever struggled with exploring those parts of yourself that can … Continue reading Episode 342 – Jenn Suen Chen]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 342 - Jenn Suen Chen]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jenn Suen Chen‘s story is so very different from mine and also holds many similarities. Her new book, Dim Sum and Faith, is one to slow down with, letting the words and ideas simmer like a wonderfully rich broth (one that can also bring some healing with its warmth). She shares about her experiences as an Asian American Christian woman, and while many of the particulars between her story and mine are obviously different, I found many places of connection and I have a feeling you will, too. If you’ve ever struggled with exploring those parts of yourself that can … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-342-jenn-suen-chen/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 342 – Jenn Suen Chen</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jenn Suen Chen‘s story is so very different from mine and also holds many similarities. Her new book, Dim Sum and Faith, is one to slow down with, letting the words and ideas simmer like a wonderfully rich broth (one that can also bring some healing with its warmth). She shares about her experiences as an Asian American Christian woman, and while many of the particulars between her story and mine are obviously different, I found many places of connection and I have a feeling you will, too. If you’ve ever struggled with exploring those parts of yourself that can … Continue reading Episode 342 – Jenn Suen Chen]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:06:24</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 341 - Tatum Tricarico]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-341-tatum-tricarico</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Tatum Tricarico‘s book, Blessed is the Body, is an amazing devotional! I read it almost every morning (sipping my coffee with my beagle curled up beside me) preparing for this interview. Not only did I learn a ton, but I also connected with God in super meaningful and surprising ways. In this conversation, we talk about how ableism manifests in the church, how some familiar passages of scripture can be re-read through the lens of disability theology, and journeying through healing from hurtful theology. Mentioned in this episode: Blessed Is the Body: Disability Justice and the Community of Christ by … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-341-tatum-tricarico/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 341 – Tatum Tricarico</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Tatum Tricarico‘s book, Blessed is the Body, is an amazing devotional! I read it almost every morning (sipping my coffee with my beagle curled up beside me) preparing for this interview. Not only did I learn a ton, but I also connected with God in super meaningful and surprising ways. In this conversation, we talk about how ableism manifests in the church, how some familiar passages of scripture can be re-read through the lens of disability theology, and journeying through healing from hurtful theology. Mentioned in this episode: Blessed Is the Body: Disability Justice and the Community of Christ by … Continue reading Episode 341 – Tatum Tricarico]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 341 - Tatum Tricarico]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Tatum Tricarico‘s book, Blessed is the Body, is an amazing devotional! I read it almost every morning (sipping my coffee with my beagle curled up beside me) preparing for this interview. Not only did I learn a ton, but I also connected with God in super meaningful and surprising ways. In this conversation, we talk about how ableism manifests in the church, how some familiar passages of scripture can be re-read through the lens of disability theology, and journeying through healing from hurtful theology. Mentioned in this episode: Blessed Is the Body: Disability Justice and the Community of Christ by … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-341-tatum-tricarico/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 341 – Tatum Tricarico</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Tatum Tricarico‘s book, Blessed is the Body, is an amazing devotional! I read it almost every morning (sipping my coffee with my beagle curled up beside me) preparing for this interview. Not only did I learn a ton, but I also connected with God in super meaningful and surprising ways. In this conversation, we talk about how ableism manifests in the church, how some familiar passages of scripture can be re-read through the lens of disability theology, and journeying through healing from hurtful theology. Mentioned in this episode: Blessed Is the Body: Disability Justice and the Community of Christ by … Continue reading Episode 341 – Tatum Tricarico]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:49</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 340 - Chris Hoklotubbe & Danny Zacharias]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2026 22:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-340-chris-hoklotubbe-amp-danny-zacharias</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read – and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris’s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), Indigenous biblical interpretations/hermeneutics, and asset-based theology. I can’t wait for you to hear it! Mentioned in this episode: Reading the Bible on Turtle Island: An Invitation to North American Indigenous Interpretation by H. Daniel Zacharias and T. Christopher Hoklotubbe NAIITS Cecilia Titizano, professor Richard Twiss … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-340-chris-hoklotubbe-danny-zacharias/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 340 – Chris Hoklotubbe &amp; Danny Zacharias</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read – and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris’s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), Indigenous biblical interpretations/hermeneutics, and asset-based theology. I can’t wait for you to hear it! Mentioned in this episode: Reading the Bible on Turtle Island: An Invitation to North American Indigenous Interpretation by H. Daniel Zacharias and T. Christopher Hoklotubbe NAIITS Cecilia Titizano, professor Richard Twiss … Continue reading Episode 340 – Chris Hoklotubbe & Danny Zacharias]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 340 - Chris Hoklotubbe & Danny Zacharias]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read – and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris’s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), Indigenous biblical interpretations/hermeneutics, and asset-based theology. I can’t wait for you to hear it! Mentioned in this episode: Reading the Bible on Turtle Island: An Invitation to North American Indigenous Interpretation by H. Daniel Zacharias and T. Christopher Hoklotubbe NAIITS Cecilia Titizano, professor Richard Twiss … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-340-chris-hoklotubbe-danny-zacharias/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 340 – Chris Hoklotubbe &amp; Danny Zacharias</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read – and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris’s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), Indigenous biblical interpretations/hermeneutics, and asset-based theology. I can’t wait for you to hear it! Mentioned in this episode: Reading the Bible on Turtle Island: An Invitation to North American Indigenous Interpretation by H. Daniel Zacharias and T. Christopher Hoklotubbe NAIITS Cecilia Titizano, professor Richard Twiss … Continue reading Episode 340 – Chris Hoklotubbe & Danny Zacharias]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:37</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 339 - Christine Jeske]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 02:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-339-christine-jeske</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Sitting down with author and anthropology professor Christine Jeske was a joy! We talked about her newest book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, which is all about why white Christians (the small number of them who do) participate in racial justice work and how they stay committed. For this work, Christine spent hours and hours interviewing white Christians, who had been identified primarily by BIPOC Christians, about their engagement in racial justice work, which for many had spanned decades. She asked them about how they got involved in their work in the first place and what keeps them going, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-339-christine-jeske/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 339 – Christine Jeske</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[Sitting down with author and anthropology professor Christine Jeske was a joy! We talked about her newest book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, which is all about why white Christians (the small number of them who do) participate in racial justice work and how they stay committed. For this work, Christine spent hours and hours interviewing white Christians, who had been identified primarily by BIPOC Christians, about their engagement in racial justice work, which for many had spanned decades. She asked them about how they got involved in their work in the first place and what keeps them going, … Continue reading Episode 339 – Christine Jeske]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 339 - Christine Jeske]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Sitting down with author and anthropology professor Christine Jeske was a joy! We talked about her newest book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, which is all about why white Christians (the small number of them who do) participate in racial justice work and how they stay committed. For this work, Christine spent hours and hours interviewing white Christians, who had been identified primarily by BIPOC Christians, about their engagement in racial justice work, which for many had spanned decades. She asked them about how they got involved in their work in the first place and what keeps them going, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-339-christine-jeske/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 339 – Christine Jeske</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Sitting down with author and anthropology professor Christine Jeske was a joy! We talked about her newest book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, which is all about why white Christians (the small number of them who do) participate in racial justice work and how they stay committed. For this work, Christine spent hours and hours interviewing white Christians, who had been identified primarily by BIPOC Christians, about their engagement in racial justice work, which for many had spanned decades. She asked them about how they got involved in their work in the first place and what keeps them going, … Continue reading Episode 339 – Christine Jeske]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:17</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 338 - Terence Lester]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2026 00:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2345290</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-338-terence-lester</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to welcome *back* to the podcast, Dr. Terence Lester! (In case you missed his other appearances, they’re here, here, and here – with his daughter, and co-author, Zion!) During this conversation, we discuss race-based educational injustices in the U.S., along with Terence’s own story of experiencing the educational system as a Black student in Georgia as told in his newest book, From Dropout to Doctorate. His journey, while unique to him, also contains elements common to racially and ethnically minoritized individuals and communities in the U.S. These students are all too often written off, their potential … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-338-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 338 – Terence Lester</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to welcome *back* to the podcast, Dr. Terence Lester! (In case you missed his other appearances, they’re here, here, and here – with his daughter, and co-author, Zion!) During this conversation, we discuss race-based educational injustices in the U.S., along with Terence’s own story of experiencing the educational system as a Black student in Georgia as told in his newest book, From Dropout to Doctorate. His journey, while unique to him, also contains elements common to racially and ethnically minoritized individuals and communities in the U.S. These students are all too often written off, their potential … Continue reading Episode 338 – Terence Lester]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 338 - Terence Lester]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to welcome *back* to the podcast, Dr. Terence Lester! (In case you missed his other appearances, they’re here, here, and here – with his daughter, and co-author, Zion!) During this conversation, we discuss race-based educational injustices in the U.S., along with Terence’s own story of experiencing the educational system as a Black student in Georgia as told in his newest book, From Dropout to Doctorate. His journey, while unique to him, also contains elements common to racially and ethnically minoritized individuals and communities in the U.S. These students are all too often written off, their potential … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-338-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 338 – Terence Lester</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to welcome *back* to the podcast, Dr. Terence Lester! (In case you missed his other appearances, they’re here, here, and here – with his daughter, and co-author, Zion!) During this conversation, we discuss race-based educational injustices in the U.S., along with Terence’s own story of experiencing the educational system as a Black student in Georgia as told in his newest book, From Dropout to Doctorate. His journey, while unique to him, also contains elements common to racially and ethnically minoritized individuals and communities in the U.S. These students are all too often written off, their potential … Continue reading Episode 338 – Terence Lester]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:51</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 337 - Chanté Griffin]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 02:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[For Christians, the topic of loving our neighbors is a familiar one. Many times, at least for me, the phrase is *so* familiar that it sometimes becomes difficult to effectively pause, reflect, and investigate what it actually requires from us in real life. Chanté Griffin brings her unique perspective to this vibrant and ongoing conversation, sharing from her experiences and research. In Loving Your Black Neighbor as Yourself, Chanté writes specifically to her non-Black neighbors, giving them some helpful background and context for how we might engage with our Black neighbors, near and far, in ways that are sincere and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-337-chante-griffin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 337 – Chanté Griffin</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For Christians, the topic of loving our neighbors is a familiar one. Many times, at least for me, the phrase is *so* familiar that it sometimes becomes difficult to effectively pause, reflect, and investigate what it actually requires from us in real life. Chanté Griffin brings her unique perspective to this vibrant and ongoing conversation, sharing from her experiences and research. In Loving Your Black Neighbor as Yourself, Chanté writes specifically to her non-Black neighbors, giving them some helpful background and context for how we might engage with our Black neighbors, near and far, in ways that are sincere and … Continue reading Ep. 337 – Chanté Griffin]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 337 - Chanté Griffin]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For Christians, the topic of loving our neighbors is a familiar one. Many times, at least for me, the phrase is *so* familiar that it sometimes becomes difficult to effectively pause, reflect, and investigate what it actually requires from us in real life. Chanté Griffin brings her unique perspective to this vibrant and ongoing conversation, sharing from her experiences and research. In Loving Your Black Neighbor as Yourself, Chanté writes specifically to her non-Black neighbors, giving them some helpful background and context for how we might engage with our Black neighbors, near and far, in ways that are sincere and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-337-chante-griffin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 337 – Chanté Griffin</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For Christians, the topic of loving our neighbors is a familiar one. Many times, at least for me, the phrase is *so* familiar that it sometimes becomes difficult to effectively pause, reflect, and investigate what it actually requires from us in real life. Chanté Griffin brings her unique perspective to this vibrant and ongoing conversation, sharing from her experiences and research. In Loving Your Black Neighbor as Yourself, Chanté writes specifically to her non-Black neighbors, giving them some helpful background and context for how we might engage with our Black neighbors, near and far, in ways that are sincere and … Continue reading Ep. 337 – Chanté Griffin]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:05:23</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 336 - Malcolm Foley (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2026 23:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Producer’s Pick! For MLK Jr. Day, I asked my husband and producer, Seth, to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and without hesitation, he said, “What about Malcolm’s most recent one?!” Done and done! Here ya go! That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you’re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, this conversation is for you. Malcolm and I explore how … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-336-malcolm-foley-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 336 – Malcolm Foley (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s Pick! For MLK Jr. Day, I asked my husband and producer, Seth, to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and without hesitation, he said, “What about Malcolm’s most recent one?!” Done and done! Here ya go! That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you’re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, this conversation is for you. Malcolm and I explore how … Continue reading Episode 336 – Malcolm Foley (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 336 - Malcolm Foley (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s Pick! For MLK Jr. Day, I asked my husband and producer, Seth, to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and without hesitation, he said, “What about Malcolm’s most recent one?!” Done and done! Here ya go! That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you’re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, this conversation is for you. Malcolm and I explore how … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-336-malcolm-foley-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 336 – Malcolm Foley (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s Pick! For MLK Jr. Day, I asked my husband and producer, Seth, to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and without hesitation, he said, “What about Malcolm’s most recent one?!” Done and done! Here ya go! That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you’re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, this conversation is for you. Malcolm and I explore how … Continue reading Episode 336 – Malcolm Foley (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:12:15</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 335 - Dorothy Greco]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 22:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[I am truly grateful for the work of Dorothy Greco. Her most recent book, For the Love of Women tackles several areas where misogyny has, and continues to have, great impacts. Trained and having worked as both a journalist and a pastor, she brings a unique perspective to patriarchy and misogyny and how our whole society, men and women included, has suffered from their effects. What I liked most about this particular book was the inclusion of so. many. receipts! As a woman, the phenomena she wrote (and we talked) about were totally familiar to my experiences, but Dorothy didn’t … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-335-dorothy-greco/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 335 – Dorothy Greco</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am truly grateful for the work of Dorothy Greco. Her most recent book, For the Love of Women tackles several areas where misogyny has, and continues to have, great impacts. Trained and having worked as both a journalist and a pastor, she brings a unique perspective to patriarchy and misogyny and how our whole society, men and women included, has suffered from their effects. What I liked most about this particular book was the inclusion of so. many. receipts! As a woman, the phenomena she wrote (and we talked) about were totally familiar to my experiences, but Dorothy didn’t … Continue reading Episode 335 – Dorothy Greco]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 335 - Dorothy Greco]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am truly grateful for the work of Dorothy Greco. Her most recent book, For the Love of Women tackles several areas where misogyny has, and continues to have, great impacts. Trained and having worked as both a journalist and a pastor, she brings a unique perspective to patriarchy and misogyny and how our whole society, men and women included, has suffered from their effects. What I liked most about this particular book was the inclusion of so. many. receipts! As a woman, the phenomena she wrote (and we talked) about were totally familiar to my experiences, but Dorothy didn’t … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-335-dorothy-greco/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 335 – Dorothy Greco</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am truly grateful for the work of Dorothy Greco. Her most recent book, For the Love of Women tackles several areas where misogyny has, and continues to have, great impacts. Trained and having worked as both a journalist and a pastor, she brings a unique perspective to patriarchy and misogyny and how our whole society, men and women included, has suffered from their effects. What I liked most about this particular book was the inclusion of so. many. receipts! As a woman, the phenomena she wrote (and we talked) about were totally familiar to my experiences, but Dorothy didn’t … Continue reading Episode 335 – Dorothy Greco]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:05:23</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 334 - Kat Armas]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-334-kat-armas</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I am embarrassed to admit how recently I started to realize the effects of empire on my life. It probably wasn’t until I entered seminary that vocabulary like empire or colonialism entered my everyday consciousness, and even when it did, reckoning with it is something that still evades me most days. It’s difficult to see something when it’s all around us (we’ve all heard the example of the fish not realizing it was wet). Generous to lend her wisdom, Kat Armas does an amazing job of helping us recognize the repercussions of empire in our lives and how we can … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-334-kat-armas/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 334 – Kat Armas</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am embarrassed to admit how recently I started to realize the effects of empire on my life. It probably wasn’t until I entered seminary that vocabulary like empire or colonialism entered my everyday consciousness, and even when it did, reckoning with it is something that still evades me most days. It’s difficult to see something when it’s all around us (we’ve all heard the example of the fish not realizing it was wet). Generous to lend her wisdom, Kat Armas does an amazing job of helping us recognize the repercussions of empire in our lives and how we can … Continue reading Episode 334 – Kat Armas]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 334 - Kat Armas]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am embarrassed to admit how recently I started to realize the effects of empire on my life. It probably wasn’t until I entered seminary that vocabulary like empire or colonialism entered my everyday consciousness, and even when it did, reckoning with it is something that still evades me most days. It’s difficult to see something when it’s all around us (we’ve all heard the example of the fish not realizing it was wet). Generous to lend her wisdom, Kat Armas does an amazing job of helping us recognize the repercussions of empire in our lives and how we can … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-334-kat-armas/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 334 – Kat Armas</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am embarrassed to admit how recently I started to realize the effects of empire on my life. It probably wasn’t until I entered seminary that vocabulary like empire or colonialism entered my everyday consciousness, and even when it did, reckoning with it is something that still evades me most days. It’s difficult to see something when it’s all around us (we’ve all heard the example of the fish not realizing it was wet). Generous to lend her wisdom, Kat Armas does an amazing job of helping us recognize the repercussions of empire in our lives and how we can … Continue reading Episode 334 – Kat Armas]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 333 - Zach Lambert (re-play!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2025 01:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-333-zach-lambert-9-re-play</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Producer’s pick! We’re all still recovering from holiday fun this week, so I asked my sweet husband and producer to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and he picked this favorite with Zach Lambert. Enjoy! And happy week between Christmas and New Year’s! This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don’t say that only because I’m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways that emphasize love. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-333-zach-lambert-9-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 333 – Zach Lambert (re-play!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick! We’re all still recovering from holiday fun this week, so I asked my sweet husband and producer to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and he picked this favorite with Zach Lambert. Enjoy! And happy week between Christmas and New Year’s! This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don’t say that only because I’m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways that emphasize love. … Continue reading Episode 333 – Zach Lambert (re-play!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 333 - Zach Lambert (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick! We’re all still recovering from holiday fun this week, so I asked my sweet husband and producer to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and he picked this favorite with Zach Lambert. Enjoy! And happy week between Christmas and New Year’s! This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don’t say that only because I’m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways that emphasize love. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-333-zach-lambert-9-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 333 – Zach Lambert (re-play!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick! We’re all still recovering from holiday fun this week, so I asked my sweet husband and producer to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and he picked this favorite with Zach Lambert. Enjoy! And happy week between Christmas and New Year’s! This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don’t say that only because I’m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways that emphasize love. … Continue reading Episode 333 – Zach Lambert (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 332 - The Disruptive Birth]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 01:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-332-the-disruptive-birth</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[The birth of Jesus was, and is, disruptive to our lives. Though, with all the familiarity surrounding Christmas, sometimes it’s hard to remember how true that is. Listen along for a short, Christmas week reflection from That Makes Total Sense! host, Alexis Busetti, as she discusses how the Incarnation was and should continue to be disruptive to our lives. (Spoiler alert – disruption isn’t always bad.) Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 228 – The Magnificat You might also enjoy: Ep. 018 – Emmanuel, God with Us Ep. 230 with Collin Cornell Ep. 176 with Sarah Quezada]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The birth of Jesus was, and is, disruptive to our lives. Though, with all the familiarity surrounding Christmas, sometimes it’s hard to remember how true that is. Listen along for a short, Christmas week reflection from That Makes Total Sense! host, Alexis Busetti, as she discusses how the Incarnation was and should continue to be disruptive to our lives. (Spoiler alert – disruption isn’t always bad.) Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 228 – The Magnificat You might also enjoy: Ep. 018 – Emmanuel, God with Us Ep. 230 with Collin Cornell Ep. 176 with Sarah Quezada]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 332 - The Disruptive Birth]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The birth of Jesus was, and is, disruptive to our lives. Though, with all the familiarity surrounding Christmas, sometimes it’s hard to remember how true that is. Listen along for a short, Christmas week reflection from That Makes Total Sense! host, Alexis Busetti, as she discusses how the Incarnation was and should continue to be disruptive to our lives. (Spoiler alert – disruption isn’t always bad.) Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 228 – The Magnificat You might also enjoy: Ep. 018 – Emmanuel, God with Us Ep. 230 with Collin Cornell Ep. 176 with Sarah Quezada]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The birth of Jesus was, and is, disruptive to our lives. Though, with all the familiarity surrounding Christmas, sometimes it’s hard to remember how true that is. Listen along for a short, Christmas week reflection from That Makes Total Sense! host, Alexis Busetti, as she discusses how the Incarnation was and should continue to be disruptive to our lives. (Spoiler alert – disruption isn’t always bad.) Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 228 – The Magnificat You might also enjoy: Ep. 018 – Emmanuel, God with Us Ep. 230 with Collin Cornell Ep. 176 with Sarah Quezada]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:18:32</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 331 - Scott Erickson (re-play!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2025 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2288709</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-331-scott-erickson-re-play</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in this conversation and from his book, Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now. Scott is an artist, which encompasses a whole host of creative spheres in his work, and in these 25 readings he brings our heads and our hearts down … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-331-scott-erickson-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 331 – Scott Erickson (re-play!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in this conversation and from his book, Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now. Scott is an artist, which encompasses a whole host of creative spheres in his work, and in these 25 readings he brings our heads and our hearts down … Continue reading Episode 331 – Scott Erickson (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 331 - Scott Erickson (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in this conversation and from his book, Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now. Scott is an artist, which encompasses a whole host of creative spheres in his work, and in these 25 readings he brings our heads and our hearts down … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-331-scott-erickson-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 331 – Scott Erickson (re-play!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in this conversation and from his book, Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now. Scott is an artist, which encompasses a whole host of creative spheres in his work, and in these 25 readings he brings our heads and our hearts down … Continue reading Episode 331 – Scott Erickson (re-play!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:04:43</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 330 - Kelley Nikondeha (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long (including in our recent conversation on Jubilee)! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate he entered as an infant? How might his family have been dealing with their oppression? What is it like in Israel/Palestine now for Christians and Jews? If you’re curious and want to explore any of those questions, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-330-kelley-nikondeha-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 330 – Kelley Nikondeha (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long (including in our recent conversation on Jubilee)! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate he entered as an infant? How might his family have been dealing with their oppression? What is it like in Israel/Palestine now for Christians and Jews? If you’re curious and want to explore any of those questions, … Continue reading Episode 330 – Kelley Nikondeha (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 330 - Kelley Nikondeha (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long (including in our recent conversation on Jubilee)! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate he entered as an infant? How might his family have been dealing with their oppression? What is it like in Israel/Palestine now for Christians and Jews? If you’re curious and want to explore any of those questions, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-330-kelley-nikondeha-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 330 – Kelley Nikondeha (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long (including in our recent conversation on Jubilee)! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate he entered as an infant? How might his family have been dealing with their oppression? What is it like in Israel/Palestine now for Christians and Jews? If you’re curious and want to explore any of those questions, … Continue reading Episode 330 – Kelley Nikondeha (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:25</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 329 - Collin Cornell]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 03:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[My friend, Collin Cornell, is back! And, I have been *waiting* for this conversation (okay, in some ways, I’ve been waiting, and in some ways, it’s been ongoing). Collin has finished his newest book, God Draws Near, and it is a game-changer; I’m so thrilled he’s here to talk with me about it! This incredibly well-researched, academic text, explores missiology in a new way. With Collin’s background in biblical studies, specifically the Old Testament, much of the book and conversation center around the Song of Songs, the Tabernacle, and Israel. And while Collin does not discount the traditional biblical emphasis … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-329-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 329 – Collin Cornell</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My friend, Collin Cornell, is back! And, I have been *waiting* for this conversation (okay, in some ways, I’ve been waiting, and in some ways, it’s been ongoing). Collin has finished his newest book, God Draws Near, and it is a game-changer; I’m so thrilled he’s here to talk with me about it! This incredibly well-researched, academic text, explores missiology in a new way. With Collin’s background in biblical studies, specifically the Old Testament, much of the book and conversation center around the Song of Songs, the Tabernacle, and Israel. And while Collin does not discount the traditional biblical emphasis … Continue reading Episode 329 – Collin Cornell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 329 - Collin Cornell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My friend, Collin Cornell, is back! And, I have been *waiting* for this conversation (okay, in some ways, I’ve been waiting, and in some ways, it’s been ongoing). Collin has finished his newest book, God Draws Near, and it is a game-changer; I’m so thrilled he’s here to talk with me about it! This incredibly well-researched, academic text, explores missiology in a new way. With Collin’s background in biblical studies, specifically the Old Testament, much of the book and conversation center around the Song of Songs, the Tabernacle, and Israel. And while Collin does not discount the traditional biblical emphasis … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-329-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 329 – Collin Cornell</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My friend, Collin Cornell, is back! And, I have been *waiting* for this conversation (okay, in some ways, I’ve been waiting, and in some ways, it’s been ongoing). Collin has finished his newest book, God Draws Near, and it is a game-changer; I’m so thrilled he’s here to talk with me about it! This incredibly well-researched, academic text, explores missiology in a new way. With Collin’s background in biblical studies, specifically the Old Testament, much of the book and conversation center around the Song of Songs, the Tabernacle, and Israel. And while Collin does not discount the traditional biblical emphasis … Continue reading Episode 329 – Collin Cornell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 328 - Lisa Colón DeLay]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2025 13:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Lisa Colón DeLay and I had so much fun talking all about the desert elders! (I admit, there was a time when that sentence wouldn’t have made sense to me, but today, I am all about learning more from our fore parents in the faith.) Even though our world and our lives look very different, Lisa reminds us that there is so much we can glean from our ancestors’ faith lives. From standing atop pillars to fasting to basket-weaving, their practices and pursuit of virtues provide much inspiration for our everyday spiritual lives. Mentioned in this episode: The Way of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-328-lisa-colon-delay/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 328 – Lisa Colón DeLay</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lisa Colón DeLay and I had so much fun talking all about the desert elders! (I admit, there was a time when that sentence wouldn’t have made sense to me, but today, I am all about learning more from our fore parents in the faith.) Even though our world and our lives look very different, Lisa reminds us that there is so much we can glean from our ancestors’ faith lives. From standing atop pillars to fasting to basket-weaving, their practices and pursuit of virtues provide much inspiration for our everyday spiritual lives. Mentioned in this episode: The Way of … Continue reading Episode 328 – Lisa Colón DeLay]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 328 - Lisa Colón DeLay]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lisa Colón DeLay and I had so much fun talking all about the desert elders! (I admit, there was a time when that sentence wouldn’t have made sense to me, but today, I am all about learning more from our fore parents in the faith.) Even though our world and our lives look very different, Lisa reminds us that there is so much we can glean from our ancestors’ faith lives. From standing atop pillars to fasting to basket-weaving, their practices and pursuit of virtues provide much inspiration for our everyday spiritual lives. Mentioned in this episode: The Way of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-328-lisa-colon-delay/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 328 – Lisa Colón DeLay</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lisa Colón DeLay and I had so much fun talking all about the desert elders! (I admit, there was a time when that sentence wouldn’t have made sense to me, but today, I am all about learning more from our fore parents in the faith.) Even though our world and our lives look very different, Lisa reminds us that there is so much we can glean from our ancestors’ faith lives. From standing atop pillars to fasting to basket-weaving, their practices and pursuit of virtues provide much inspiration for our everyday spiritual lives. Mentioned in this episode: The Way of … Continue reading Episode 328 – Lisa Colón DeLay]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:49</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 327 - Amy Peeler]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 12:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother of Jesus, as a woman, revered and honored by God, and Jesus as a male, but like no other. These deep and heavy theological concepts aren’t just for our intellectual edification though, they have real life implications for our faith and our relationships with ourselves, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-327-amy-peeler/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 327 – Amy Peeler</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother of Jesus, as a woman, revered and honored by God, and Jesus as a male, but like no other. These deep and heavy theological concepts aren’t just for our intellectual edification though, they have real life implications for our faith and our relationships with ourselves, … Continue reading Episode 327 – Amy Peeler]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 327 - Amy Peeler]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother of Jesus, as a woman, revered and honored by God, and Jesus as a male, but like no other. These deep and heavy theological concepts aren’t just for our intellectual edification though, they have real life implications for our faith and our relationships with ourselves, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-327-amy-peeler/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 327 – Amy Peeler</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother of Jesus, as a woman, revered and honored by God, and Jesus as a male, but like no other. These deep and heavy theological concepts aren’t just for our intellectual edification though, they have real life implications for our faith and our relationships with ourselves, … Continue reading Episode 327 – Amy Peeler]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 326 - Claude Atcho]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 23:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[As I type this, it almost feels like fall in the hill country of Texas (and I hear it’s gonna stay that way for about 48 hours, lol!). The cooler weather and the wind, as temporary as they may be, remind me of seasonal changes, and it makes me glad. The chill in the air jogs my memory that seasons are God’s design and embracing them, whether they be weather or life related, will help us become more attune to the Spirit. Claude Atcho’s newest devotional is one tool we can use to help us. Rhythms of Faith is a … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-326-claude-atcho/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 326 – Claude Atcho</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As I type this, it almost feels like fall in the hill country of Texas (and I hear it’s gonna stay that way for about 48 hours, lol!). The cooler weather and the wind, as temporary as they may be, remind me of seasonal changes, and it makes me glad. The chill in the air jogs my memory that seasons are God’s design and embracing them, whether they be weather or life related, will help us become more attune to the Spirit. Claude Atcho’s newest devotional is one tool we can use to help us. Rhythms of Faith is a … Continue reading Ep. 326 – Claude Atcho]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 326 - Claude Atcho]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As I type this, it almost feels like fall in the hill country of Texas (and I hear it’s gonna stay that way for about 48 hours, lol!). The cooler weather and the wind, as temporary as they may be, remind me of seasonal changes, and it makes me glad. The chill in the air jogs my memory that seasons are God’s design and embracing them, whether they be weather or life related, will help us become more attune to the Spirit. Claude Atcho’s newest devotional is one tool we can use to help us. Rhythms of Faith is a … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-326-claude-atcho/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 326 – Claude Atcho</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As I type this, it almost feels like fall in the hill country of Texas (and I hear it’s gonna stay that way for about 48 hours, lol!). The cooler weather and the wind, as temporary as they may be, remind me of seasonal changes, and it makes me glad. The chill in the air jogs my memory that seasons are God’s design and embracing them, whether they be weather or life related, will help us become more attune to the Spirit. Claude Atcho’s newest devotional is one tool we can use to help us. Rhythms of Faith is a … Continue reading Ep. 326 – Claude Atcho]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 325 - David Swanson (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2025 14:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more connected to each other, and our places, might look in our own contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson Dakota: A Spiritual Geography by Kathleen Norris dwswanson.com You might also enjoy: Ep. 237 with Norman Wirzba Ep. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-325-david-swanson-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 325 – David Swanson (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more connected to each other, and our places, might look in our own contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson Dakota: A Spiritual Geography by Kathleen Norris dwswanson.com You might also enjoy: Ep. 237 with Norman Wirzba Ep. … Continue reading Episode 325 – David Swanson (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 325 - David Swanson (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more connected to each other, and our places, might look in our own contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson Dakota: A Spiritual Geography by Kathleen Norris dwswanson.com You might also enjoy: Ep. 237 with Norman Wirzba Ep. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-325-david-swanson-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 325 – David Swanson (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more connected to each other, and our places, might look in our own contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson Dakota: A Spiritual Geography by Kathleen Norris dwswanson.com You might also enjoy: Ep. 237 with Norman Wirzba Ep. … Continue reading Episode 325 – David Swanson (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:05:47</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 324 - Kelley Nikondeha]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-324-kelley-nikondeha</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[The topic of jubilee is one that sometimes has me feeling a bit…skeptical. It’s not that I don’t like the concept, I do. It’s just that it’s a tough one to talk about it in a way that seems faithful to the biblical texts and practical for real life. Enter Kelley Nikondeha! She is a theologian, married to a practitioner, who have both spent years wrestling with what it would look like to live out jubilee concepts in their contexts. Her new book, Jubilee Economics tracks their process as they try to figure out how to combine what they see … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-324-kelley-nikondeha/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 324 – Kelley Nikondeha</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[The topic of jubilee is one that sometimes has me feeling a bit…skeptical. It’s not that I don’t like the concept, I do. It’s just that it’s a tough one to talk about it in a way that seems faithful to the biblical texts and practical for real life. Enter Kelley Nikondeha! She is a theologian, married to a practitioner, who have both spent years wrestling with what it would look like to live out jubilee concepts in their contexts. Her new book, Jubilee Economics tracks their process as they try to figure out how to combine what they see … Continue reading Episode 324 – Kelley Nikondeha]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 324 - Kelley Nikondeha]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The topic of jubilee is one that sometimes has me feeling a bit…skeptical. It’s not that I don’t like the concept, I do. It’s just that it’s a tough one to talk about it in a way that seems faithful to the biblical texts and practical for real life. Enter Kelley Nikondeha! She is a theologian, married to a practitioner, who have both spent years wrestling with what it would look like to live out jubilee concepts in their contexts. Her new book, Jubilee Economics tracks their process as they try to figure out how to combine what they see … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-324-kelley-nikondeha/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 324 – Kelley Nikondeha</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The topic of jubilee is one that sometimes has me feeling a bit…skeptical. It’s not that I don’t like the concept, I do. It’s just that it’s a tough one to talk about it in a way that seems faithful to the biblical texts and practical for real life. Enter Kelley Nikondeha! She is a theologian, married to a practitioner, who have both spent years wrestling with what it would look like to live out jubilee concepts in their contexts. Her new book, Jubilee Economics tracks their process as they try to figure out how to combine what they see … Continue reading Episode 324 – Kelley Nikondeha]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:52</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 323 - Charon Hribar]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2025 18:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2168163</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-323-charon-hribar</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Every time I catch a news headline with something tragic happening in the world, or close to home, I have a sense of grief, many times accompanied by a sense of helplessness. What can I do? is the question that haunts me. I’m not a community organizer or a formal advocate and even in the small actions I know could help, I sometimes feel immobilized. For all of these reasons, and more, I am grateful for this recent work by Charon Hribar and Liz Theoharis, We Pray Freedom. They have gathered prayers, liturgies, songs, and stories from many traditions focused … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-323-charon-hribar/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 323 – Charon Hribar</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Every time I catch a news headline with something tragic happening in the world, or close to home, I have a sense of grief, many times accompanied by a sense of helplessness. What can I do? is the question that haunts me. I’m not a community organizer or a formal advocate and even in the small actions I know could help, I sometimes feel immobilized. For all of these reasons, and more, I am grateful for this recent work by Charon Hribar and Liz Theoharis, We Pray Freedom. They have gathered prayers, liturgies, songs, and stories from many traditions focused … Continue reading Episode 323 – Charon Hribar]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 323 - Charon Hribar]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Every time I catch a news headline with something tragic happening in the world, or close to home, I have a sense of grief, many times accompanied by a sense of helplessness. What can I do? is the question that haunts me. I’m not a community organizer or a formal advocate and even in the small actions I know could help, I sometimes feel immobilized. For all of these reasons, and more, I am grateful for this recent work by Charon Hribar and Liz Theoharis, We Pray Freedom. They have gathered prayers, liturgies, songs, and stories from many traditions focused … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-323-charon-hribar/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 323 – Charon Hribar</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Every time I catch a news headline with something tragic happening in the world, or close to home, I have a sense of grief, many times accompanied by a sense of helplessness. What can I do? is the question that haunts me. I’m not a community organizer or a formal advocate and even in the small actions I know could help, I sometimes feel immobilized. For all of these reasons, and more, I am grateful for this recent work by Charon Hribar and Liz Theoharis, We Pray Freedom. They have gathered prayers, liturgies, songs, and stories from many traditions focused … Continue reading Episode 323 – Charon Hribar]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:55</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 322 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Matthew Soerens]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 01:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2164445</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-322-ivp-made-for-pax-series-matthew-soerens</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[When I think of individuals and organizations who have their work cut out for them, always, but especially with our current times, I think of Matthew Soerens and World Relief. For those who may not be familiar, World Relief is a Christian humanitarian organization who serves people who are in crisis all over the world, especially those who have been displaced from their homes. As you can imagine, for their team in the U.S., that means lots of work with folks who immigrate here whether as refugees or asylum seekers – people with complicated circumstances who are in vulnerable situations.  … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-322-ivp-made-for-pax-series-matthew-soerens/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 322 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Matthew Soerens</span></a>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[When I think of individuals and organizations who have their work cut out for them, always, but especially with our current times, I think of Matthew Soerens and World Relief. For those who may not be familiar, World Relief is a Christian humanitarian organization who serves people who are in crisis all over the world, especially those who have been displaced from their homes. As you can imagine, for their team in the U.S., that means lots of work with folks who immigrate here whether as refugees or asylum seekers – people with complicated circumstances who are in vulnerable situations.  … Continue reading Episode 322 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Matthew Soerens]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 322 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Matthew Soerens]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When I think of individuals and organizations who have their work cut out for them, always, but especially with our current times, I think of Matthew Soerens and World Relief. For those who may not be familiar, World Relief is a Christian humanitarian organization who serves people who are in crisis all over the world, especially those who have been displaced from their homes. As you can imagine, for their team in the U.S., that means lots of work with folks who immigrate here whether as refugees or asylum seekers – people with complicated circumstances who are in vulnerable situations.  … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-322-ivp-made-for-pax-series-matthew-soerens/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 322 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Matthew Soerens</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When I think of individuals and organizations who have their work cut out for them, always, but especially with our current times, I think of Matthew Soerens and World Relief. For those who may not be familiar, World Relief is a Christian humanitarian organization who serves people who are in crisis all over the world, especially those who have been displaced from their homes. As you can imagine, for their team in the U.S., that means lots of work with folks who immigrate here whether as refugees or asylum seekers – people with complicated circumstances who are in vulnerable situations.  … Continue reading Episode 322 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Matthew Soerens]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:43</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 321 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Jenai Auman]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2025 22:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2158531</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-321-ivp-made-for-pax-series-jenai-auman</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Chats with Jenai always result in wisdom for me, so I am grateful for our conversations! (This one is no exception!) Jenai is an author and of an amazing book called Othered: Finding Belonging with the God Who Pursues the Hurt, Harmed, and Marginalized and is a cohort leader at Made for Pax. (Our first convo for the podcast was incredible!) She is one of the endorsers of this series by IVP and Made for Pax, and I am thrilled to have her voice here. In this episode, we talk about contemplative spirituality, spiritual direction, and exploring spiritual spaces that … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-321-ivp-made-for-pax-series-jenai-auman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 321 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Jenai Auman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Chats with Jenai always result in wisdom for me, so I am grateful for our conversations! (This one is no exception!) Jenai is an author and of an amazing book called Othered: Finding Belonging with the God Who Pursues the Hurt, Harmed, and Marginalized and is a cohort leader at Made for Pax. (Our first convo for the podcast was incredible!) She is one of the endorsers of this series by IVP and Made for Pax, and I am thrilled to have her voice here. In this episode, we talk about contemplative spirituality, spiritual direction, and exploring spiritual spaces that … Continue reading Episode 321 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Jenai Auman]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 321 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Jenai Auman]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Chats with Jenai always result in wisdom for me, so I am grateful for our conversations! (This one is no exception!) Jenai is an author and of an amazing book called Othered: Finding Belonging with the God Who Pursues the Hurt, Harmed, and Marginalized and is a cohort leader at Made for Pax. (Our first convo for the podcast was incredible!) She is one of the endorsers of this series by IVP and Made for Pax, and I am thrilled to have her voice here. In this episode, we talk about contemplative spirituality, spiritual direction, and exploring spiritual spaces that … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-321-ivp-made-for-pax-series-jenai-auman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 321 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Jenai Auman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Chats with Jenai always result in wisdom for me, so I am grateful for our conversations! (This one is no exception!) Jenai is an author and of an amazing book called Othered: Finding Belonging with the God Who Pursues the Hurt, Harmed, and Marginalized and is a cohort leader at Made for Pax. (Our first convo for the podcast was incredible!) She is one of the endorsers of this series by IVP and Made for Pax, and I am thrilled to have her voice here. In this episode, we talk about contemplative spirituality, spiritual direction, and exploring spiritual spaces that … Continue reading Episode 321 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Jenai Auman]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:36</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                        type="text/vtt"  language="en-US"                      />
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 320 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Bianca Hughes]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2025 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2152322</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-320-ivp-made-for-pax-series-bianca-hughes</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[For many Christians who have struggled with mental health challenges, either personally or accompanying loved ones, the church has often been a place of conflicting messages. Do we just need Jesus or can therapy help? Are we allowed to talk to God in that way or about those things? Am I weak or sinful? Questions like these and others have surrounded mental health care, but the good news is, it’s getting better! And one of the main reasons is because therapists and other Christian mental health professionals, like my guest for this episode in the series Bianca Hughes, who are … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-320-ivp-made-for-pax-series-bianca-hughes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 320 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Bianca Hughes</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[For many Christians who have struggled with mental health challenges, either personally or accompanying loved ones, the church has often been a place of conflicting messages. Do we just need Jesus or can therapy help? Are we allowed to talk to God in that way or about those things? Am I weak or sinful? Questions like these and others have surrounded mental health care, but the good news is, it’s getting better! And one of the main reasons is because therapists and other Christian mental health professionals, like my guest for this episode in the series Bianca Hughes, who are … Continue reading Episode 320 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Bianca Hughes]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 320 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Bianca Hughes]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For many Christians who have struggled with mental health challenges, either personally or accompanying loved ones, the church has often been a place of conflicting messages. Do we just need Jesus or can therapy help? Are we allowed to talk to God in that way or about those things? Am I weak or sinful? Questions like these and others have surrounded mental health care, but the good news is, it’s getting better! And one of the main reasons is because therapists and other Christian mental health professionals, like my guest for this episode in the series Bianca Hughes, who are … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-320-ivp-made-for-pax-series-bianca-hughes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 320 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Bianca Hughes</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For many Christians who have struggled with mental health challenges, either personally or accompanying loved ones, the church has often been a place of conflicting messages. Do we just need Jesus or can therapy help? Are we allowed to talk to God in that way or about those things? Am I weak or sinful? Questions like these and others have surrounded mental health care, but the good news is, it’s getting better! And one of the main reasons is because therapists and other Christian mental health professionals, like my guest for this episode in the series Bianca Hughes, who are … Continue reading Episode 320 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Bianca Hughes]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:19</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 319 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Kristel Acevedo]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2025 10:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2146505</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/ep-319-ivp-made-for-pax-series-kristel-acevedo</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Oh my goodness! I had a great time talking with Kristel Acevedo! We continue our series on conversations centered around the Made for Pax / InterVarsity Press bible studies with this one on Kristel’s contribution Liberated at the Cross: Peace and Reconciliation in God’s Kingdom, available in English and Spanish. We talked about cruciformity, peace, the upside down kingdom of God, and of course, liberation. Kristel shares about her own journey and in that, she invites us all to place these concepts in our own contexts, and in our own lives and communities. I know you’re gonna love this one! … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-319-ivp-made-for-pax-series-kristel-acevedo/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 319 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Kristel Acevedo</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Oh my goodness! I had a great time talking with Kristel Acevedo! We continue our series on conversations centered around the Made for Pax / InterVarsity Press bible studies with this one on Kristel’s contribution Liberated at the Cross: Peace and Reconciliation in God’s Kingdom, available in English and Spanish. We talked about cruciformity, peace, the upside down kingdom of God, and of course, liberation. Kristel shares about her own journey and in that, she invites us all to place these concepts in our own contexts, and in our own lives and communities. I know you’re gonna love this one! … Continue reading Ep. 319 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Kristel Acevedo]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 319 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Kristel Acevedo]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Oh my goodness! I had a great time talking with Kristel Acevedo! We continue our series on conversations centered around the Made for Pax / InterVarsity Press bible studies with this one on Kristel’s contribution Liberated at the Cross: Peace and Reconciliation in God’s Kingdom, available in English and Spanish. We talked about cruciformity, peace, the upside down kingdom of God, and of course, liberation. Kristel shares about her own journey and in that, she invites us all to place these concepts in our own contexts, and in our own lives and communities. I know you’re gonna love this one! … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-319-ivp-made-for-pax-series-kristel-acevedo/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 319 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Kristel Acevedo</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Oh my goodness! I had a great time talking with Kristel Acevedo! We continue our series on conversations centered around the Made for Pax / InterVarsity Press bible studies with this one on Kristel’s contribution Liberated at the Cross: Peace and Reconciliation in God’s Kingdom, available in English and Spanish. We talked about cruciformity, peace, the upside down kingdom of God, and of course, liberation. Kristel shares about her own journey and in that, she invites us all to place these concepts in our own contexts, and in our own lives and communities. I know you’re gonna love this one! … Continue reading Ep. 319 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Kristel Acevedo]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:49:02</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 318 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Drew Jackson]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2025 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Drew Jackson, it is a complete joy for me! And, as you may have guessed from that opening statement, Drew is no stranger to the podcast (I highly encourage you to catch our other conversations about his books of poetry on the coming of Christ and the Gospel of Luke). This time, he’s here talking about his study in the Made for Pax series, Let Peace Reign: Love, Justice, and Dignity in God’s Kingdom–A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study with Video Access by Drew Edward Jackson, and it is a good one! There are … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-318-ivp-made-for-pax-series-drew-jackson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 318 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Drew Jackson</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Drew Jackson, it is a complete joy for me! And, as you may have guessed from that opening statement, Drew is no stranger to the podcast (I highly encourage you to catch our other conversations about his books of poetry on the coming of Christ and the Gospel of Luke). This time, he’s here talking about his study in the Made for Pax series, Let Peace Reign: Love, Justice, and Dignity in God’s Kingdom–A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study with Video Access by Drew Edward Jackson, and it is a good one! There are … Continue reading Episode 318 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Drew Jackson]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 318 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Drew Jackson]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Drew Jackson, it is a complete joy for me! And, as you may have guessed from that opening statement, Drew is no stranger to the podcast (I highly encourage you to catch our other conversations about his books of poetry on the coming of Christ and the Gospel of Luke). This time, he’s here talking about his study in the Made for Pax series, Let Peace Reign: Love, Justice, and Dignity in God’s Kingdom–A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study with Video Access by Drew Edward Jackson, and it is a good one! There are … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-318-ivp-made-for-pax-series-drew-jackson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 318 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Drew Jackson</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Drew Jackson, it is a complete joy for me! And, as you may have guessed from that opening statement, Drew is no stranger to the podcast (I highly encourage you to catch our other conversations about his books of poetry on the coming of Christ and the Gospel of Luke). This time, he’s here talking about his study in the Made for Pax series, Let Peace Reign: Love, Justice, and Dignity in God’s Kingdom–A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study with Video Access by Drew Edward Jackson, and it is a good one! There are … Continue reading Episode 318 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Drew Jackson]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:09</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 317 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun & Alexis Busetti]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2025 02:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[When I say this conversation was fun and meaningful, that is truly an understatement! Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, co-author of Migration: Experiencing God’s Care for Immigrants joined me for this episode and we shared from our hearts what our hopes are for the study and how working on it impacted us. Each of us come from families with our own migration journeys, though they are very different. We each also live in big cities where we are grateful our children are growing up surrounded by immigrant neighbors and friends. And while diversity is part of God’s plan, we are aware that many … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-317-ivp-made-for-pax-series-dorcas-cheng-tozun-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 317 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun &amp; Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When I say this conversation was fun and meaningful, that is truly an understatement! Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, co-author of Migration: Experiencing God’s Care for Immigrants joined me for this episode and we shared from our hearts what our hopes are for the study and how working on it impacted us. Each of us come from families with our own migration journeys, though they are very different. We each also live in big cities where we are grateful our children are growing up surrounded by immigrant neighbors and friends. And while diversity is part of God’s plan, we are aware that many … Continue reading Episode 317 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun & Alexis Busetti]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 317 - IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun & Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When I say this conversation was fun and meaningful, that is truly an understatement! Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, co-author of Migration: Experiencing God’s Care for Immigrants joined me for this episode and we shared from our hearts what our hopes are for the study and how working on it impacted us. Each of us come from families with our own migration journeys, though they are very different. We each also live in big cities where we are grateful our children are growing up surrounded by immigrant neighbors and friends. And while diversity is part of God’s plan, we are aware that many … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-317-ivp-made-for-pax-series-dorcas-cheng-tozun-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 317 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun &amp; Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When I say this conversation was fun and meaningful, that is truly an understatement! Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, co-author of Migration: Experiencing God’s Care for Immigrants joined me for this episode and we shared from our hearts what our hopes are for the study and how working on it impacted us. Each of us come from families with our own migration journeys, though they are very different. We each also live in big cities where we are grateful our children are growing up surrounded by immigrant neighbors and friends. And while diversity is part of God’s plan, we are aware that many … Continue reading Episode 317 – IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun & Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:09</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 316 - Dorcas Cheng-Tozun]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2025 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[It was so great to have Dorcas Cheng-Tozun back on the podcast! For this series, Dorcas will join me twice – once as author of Mental Health: Experiencing God’s Care for Our Mind, Body, and Spirit – A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study and another time as co-author of the study we worked on together on the topic of migration. Up first, the vital topic of mental health. As we discuss in the episode, one of the things that sets this study on mental health is that the study was specifically designed by and for BIPOC Christians (though all will benefit). … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-316-dorcas-cheng-tozun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 316 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was so great to have Dorcas Cheng-Tozun back on the podcast! For this series, Dorcas will join me twice – once as author of Mental Health: Experiencing God’s Care for Our Mind, Body, and Spirit – A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study and another time as co-author of the study we worked on together on the topic of migration. Up first, the vital topic of mental health. As we discuss in the episode, one of the things that sets this study on mental health is that the study was specifically designed by and for BIPOC Christians (though all will benefit). … Continue reading Ep. 316 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 316 - Dorcas Cheng-Tozun]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was so great to have Dorcas Cheng-Tozun back on the podcast! For this series, Dorcas will join me twice – once as author of Mental Health: Experiencing God’s Care for Our Mind, Body, and Spirit – A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study and another time as co-author of the study we worked on together on the topic of migration. Up first, the vital topic of mental health. As we discuss in the episode, one of the things that sets this study on mental health is that the study was specifically designed by and for BIPOC Christians (though all will benefit). … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-316-dorcas-cheng-tozun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 316 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was so great to have Dorcas Cheng-Tozun back on the podcast! For this series, Dorcas will join me twice – once as author of Mental Health: Experiencing God’s Care for Our Mind, Body, and Spirit – A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study and another time as co-author of the study we worked on together on the topic of migration. Up first, the vital topic of mental health. As we discuss in the episode, one of the things that sets this study on mental health is that the study was specifically designed by and for BIPOC Christians (though all will benefit). … Continue reading Ep. 316 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:46:45</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 315 - IVP/Made for Pax Series: Tiffany Bluhm]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2025 13:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/ep-315-ivpmade-for-pax-series-tiffany-bluhm</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I am so excited to kick off this special series of the podcast with Tiffany Bluhm, executive director of an amazing organization called Made for Pax! She’s been on the podcast before and it was an incredible conversation. This time, we are setting up what will be an eight-part series where we will discuss each of four bible studies published through a partnership between Made for Pax and InterVarsity Press. They are beautiful studies, each tackling different topics that are so relevant today, especially for Christians navigating our polarizing political and social climates. Tiffany shares a little about the work … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-315-ivp-made-for-pax-series-tiffany-bluhm/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 315 – IVP/Made for Pax Series: Tiffany Bluhm</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so excited to kick off this special series of the podcast with Tiffany Bluhm, executive director of an amazing organization called Made for Pax! She’s been on the podcast before and it was an incredible conversation. This time, we are setting up what will be an eight-part series where we will discuss each of four bible studies published through a partnership between Made for Pax and InterVarsity Press. They are beautiful studies, each tackling different topics that are so relevant today, especially for Christians navigating our polarizing political and social climates. Tiffany shares a little about the work … Continue reading Ep. 315 – IVP/Made for Pax Series: Tiffany Bluhm]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 315 - IVP/Made for Pax Series: Tiffany Bluhm]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so excited to kick off this special series of the podcast with Tiffany Bluhm, executive director of an amazing organization called Made for Pax! She’s been on the podcast before and it was an incredible conversation. This time, we are setting up what will be an eight-part series where we will discuss each of four bible studies published through a partnership between Made for Pax and InterVarsity Press. They are beautiful studies, each tackling different topics that are so relevant today, especially for Christians navigating our polarizing political and social climates. Tiffany shares a little about the work … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-315-ivp-made-for-pax-series-tiffany-bluhm/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 315 – IVP/Made for Pax Series: Tiffany Bluhm</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so excited to kick off this special series of the podcast with Tiffany Bluhm, executive director of an amazing organization called Made for Pax! She’s been on the podcast before and it was an incredible conversation. This time, we are setting up what will be an eight-part series where we will discuss each of four bible studies published through a partnership between Made for Pax and InterVarsity Press. They are beautiful studies, each tackling different topics that are so relevant today, especially for Christians navigating our polarizing political and social climates. Tiffany shares a little about the work … Continue reading Ep. 315 – IVP/Made for Pax Series: Tiffany Bluhm]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:52:26</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 314 - Zach Lambert]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2113365</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-314-zach-lambert</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don’t say that only because I’m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways that emphasize love. We talk about his recent book, Better Ways to Read the Bible: Transforming a Weapon of Harm into a Tool of Healing, which frames much of what has been problematic in our contemporary and fundamentalist understandings of common Bible teachings. Some stand … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-314-zach-lambert/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 314 – Zach Lambert</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don’t say that only because I’m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways that emphasize love. We talk about his recent book, Better Ways to Read the Bible: Transforming a Weapon of Harm into a Tool of Healing, which frames much of what has been problematic in our contemporary and fundamentalist understandings of common Bible teachings. Some stand … Continue reading Episode 314 – Zach Lambert]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 314 - Zach Lambert]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don’t say that only because I’m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways that emphasize love. We talk about his recent book, Better Ways to Read the Bible: Transforming a Weapon of Harm into a Tool of Healing, which frames much of what has been problematic in our contemporary and fundamentalist understandings of common Bible teachings. Some stand … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-314-zach-lambert/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 314 – Zach Lambert</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don’t say that only because I’m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways that emphasize love. We talk about his recent book, Better Ways to Read the Bible: Transforming a Weapon of Harm into a Tool of Healing, which frames much of what has been problematic in our contemporary and fundamentalist understandings of common Bible teachings. Some stand … Continue reading Episode 314 – Zach Lambert]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:04:53</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 313 - Sheila Wise Rowe & Nicholas Rowe]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 19:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2108072</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-313-sheila-wise-rowe-amp-nicholas-rowe</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[So many of us would count ourselves as leaders in one area of our lives or another. Many of us would also count ourselves among those who have experienced some kind of trauma, whether it was early in our lives or later. And, as you would suspect, those groups have significant overlap. That’s where Sheila Wise Rowe and her husband, Nicolas Rowe‘s work from their latest book comes in. In this conversation, we discuss their recent book, Healing Leadership Trauma, where they address the various areas of trauma that leaders often deal with and how they can heal and continue … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-313-sheila-wise-rowe-nicholas-rowe/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 313 – Sheila Wise Rowe &amp; Nicholas Rowe</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[So many of us would count ourselves as leaders in one area of our lives or another. Many of us would also count ourselves among those who have experienced some kind of trauma, whether it was early in our lives or later. And, as you would suspect, those groups have significant overlap. That’s where Sheila Wise Rowe and her husband, Nicolas Rowe‘s work from their latest book comes in. In this conversation, we discuss their recent book, Healing Leadership Trauma, where they address the various areas of trauma that leaders often deal with and how they can heal and continue … Continue reading Episode 313 – Sheila Wise Rowe & Nicholas Rowe]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 313 - Sheila Wise Rowe & Nicholas Rowe]]>
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                    <![CDATA[So many of us would count ourselves as leaders in one area of our lives or another. Many of us would also count ourselves among those who have experienced some kind of trauma, whether it was early in our lives or later. And, as you would suspect, those groups have significant overlap. That’s where Sheila Wise Rowe and her husband, Nicolas Rowe‘s work from their latest book comes in. In this conversation, we discuss their recent book, Healing Leadership Trauma, where they address the various areas of trauma that leaders often deal with and how they can heal and continue … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-313-sheila-wise-rowe-nicholas-rowe/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 313 – Sheila Wise Rowe &amp; Nicholas Rowe</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[So many of us would count ourselves as leaders in one area of our lives or another. Many of us would also count ourselves among those who have experienced some kind of trauma, whether it was early in our lives or later. And, as you would suspect, those groups have significant overlap. That’s where Sheila Wise Rowe and her husband, Nicolas Rowe‘s work from their latest book comes in. In this conversation, we discuss their recent book, Healing Leadership Trauma, where they address the various areas of trauma that leaders often deal with and how they can heal and continue … Continue reading Episode 313 – Sheila Wise Rowe & Nicholas Rowe]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:50</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 312 - David Toole]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2025 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Content warning: This episode includes discussions of graphic violence and genocide. This interview is a unique one for the podcast. Professor and author, David Toole, has written a book on the life of his friend, Maggy Barankitse, who is an advocate, currently living in exile. Maggy is a Burundian survivor of one of the genocides to plague her region of Africa. Even while living with the memories of the violence that took the lives of so many in her community, including close friends and family members, Maggy has made it her purpose to build places meant for healing and care … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-312-david-toole/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 312 – David Toole</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Content warning: This episode includes discussions of graphic violence and genocide. This interview is a unique one for the podcast. Professor and author, David Toole, has written a book on the life of his friend, Maggy Barankitse, who is an advocate, currently living in exile. Maggy is a Burundian survivor of one of the genocides to plague her region of Africa. Even while living with the memories of the violence that took the lives of so many in her community, including close friends and family members, Maggy has made it her purpose to build places meant for healing and care … Continue reading Episode 312 – David Toole]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 312 - David Toole]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Content warning: This episode includes discussions of graphic violence and genocide. This interview is a unique one for the podcast. Professor and author, David Toole, has written a book on the life of his friend, Maggy Barankitse, who is an advocate, currently living in exile. Maggy is a Burundian survivor of one of the genocides to plague her region of Africa. Even while living with the memories of the violence that took the lives of so many in her community, including close friends and family members, Maggy has made it her purpose to build places meant for healing and care … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-312-david-toole/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 312 – David Toole</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Content warning: This episode includes discussions of graphic violence and genocide. This interview is a unique one for the podcast. Professor and author, David Toole, has written a book on the life of his friend, Maggy Barankitse, who is an advocate, currently living in exile. Maggy is a Burundian survivor of one of the genocides to plague her region of Africa. Even while living with the memories of the violence that took the lives of so many in her community, including close friends and family members, Maggy has made it her purpose to build places meant for healing and care … Continue reading Episode 312 – David Toole]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:00:10</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 311 - Froswa' Booker-Drew]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2025 21:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-311-froswa-booker-drew</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Getting the chance to meet and talk with Dr. Froswa’ Booker-Drew was a time of pure light! She is as kind as she is wise and insightful and so much of her newest book, Front Porch Wisdom, will no doubt continue to impact how I view and navigate situations of leadership as a BIPOC woman. This text is so desperately needed, and I am thrilled Froswa’ literally answered the call to write it for us! Among other pertinent points, we talked about inclusion and representation as well as mentorship and talking well about people (when they’re not in the room!). … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-311-froswa-booker-drew/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 311 – Froswa’ Booker-Drew</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[Getting the chance to meet and talk with Dr. Froswa’ Booker-Drew was a time of pure light! She is as kind as she is wise and insightful and so much of her newest book, Front Porch Wisdom, will no doubt continue to impact how I view and navigate situations of leadership as a BIPOC woman. This text is so desperately needed, and I am thrilled Froswa’ literally answered the call to write it for us! Among other pertinent points, we talked about inclusion and representation as well as mentorship and talking well about people (when they’re not in the room!). … Continue reading Episode 311 – Froswa’ Booker-Drew]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 311 - Froswa' Booker-Drew]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Getting the chance to meet and talk with Dr. Froswa’ Booker-Drew was a time of pure light! She is as kind as she is wise and insightful and so much of her newest book, Front Porch Wisdom, will no doubt continue to impact how I view and navigate situations of leadership as a BIPOC woman. This text is so desperately needed, and I am thrilled Froswa’ literally answered the call to write it for us! Among other pertinent points, we talked about inclusion and representation as well as mentorship and talking well about people (when they’re not in the room!). … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-311-froswa-booker-drew/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 311 – Froswa’ Booker-Drew</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Getting the chance to meet and talk with Dr. Froswa’ Booker-Drew was a time of pure light! She is as kind as she is wise and insightful and so much of her newest book, Front Porch Wisdom, will no doubt continue to impact how I view and navigate situations of leadership as a BIPOC woman. This text is so desperately needed, and I am thrilled Froswa’ literally answered the call to write it for us! Among other pertinent points, we talked about inclusion and representation as well as mentorship and talking well about people (when they’re not in the room!). … Continue reading Episode 311 – Froswa’ Booker-Drew]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:58</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 310 - Nicole Massie Martin]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2025 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Diving into Nicole Martin‘s newest book, Nailing It, was a complete joy! Nicole comes at the complicated subject of leadership with curiosity and humility, as a learner, sharing insights that draw both from biblical and experiential wisdom. This book is neither a how-to nor a how-not-to, but an exploration on some common aspects of leadership and how those might best be approached, especially for the Christian. I hope you enjoy and learn as much from Nicole’s insights as I did! Mentioned in this episode: Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender by Nicole Massie Martin Ep. 111 with … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-310-nicole-massie-martin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 310 – Nicole Massie Martin</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Diving into Nicole Martin‘s newest book, Nailing It, was a complete joy! Nicole comes at the complicated subject of leadership with curiosity and humility, as a learner, sharing insights that draw both from biblical and experiential wisdom. This book is neither a how-to nor a how-not-to, but an exploration on some common aspects of leadership and how those might best be approached, especially for the Christian. I hope you enjoy and learn as much from Nicole’s insights as I did! Mentioned in this episode: Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender by Nicole Massie Martin Ep. 111 with … Continue reading Episode 310 – Nicole Massie Martin]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 310 - Nicole Massie Martin]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Diving into Nicole Martin‘s newest book, Nailing It, was a complete joy! Nicole comes at the complicated subject of leadership with curiosity and humility, as a learner, sharing insights that draw both from biblical and experiential wisdom. This book is neither a how-to nor a how-not-to, but an exploration on some common aspects of leadership and how those might best be approached, especially for the Christian. I hope you enjoy and learn as much from Nicole’s insights as I did! Mentioned in this episode: Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender by Nicole Massie Martin Ep. 111 with … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-310-nicole-massie-martin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 310 – Nicole Massie Martin</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Diving into Nicole Martin‘s newest book, Nailing It, was a complete joy! Nicole comes at the complicated subject of leadership with curiosity and humility, as a learner, sharing insights that draw both from biblical and experiential wisdom. This book is neither a how-to nor a how-not-to, but an exploration on some common aspects of leadership and how those might best be approached, especially for the Christian. I hope you enjoy and learn as much from Nicole’s insights as I did! Mentioned in this episode: Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender by Nicole Massie Martin Ep. 111 with … Continue reading Episode 310 – Nicole Massie Martin]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:40</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 309 - Karen Swallow Prior]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2087014</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-309-karen-swallow-prior</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[What do you want to be when you grow up? What do you do for a living? Where do you work? These questions are common from childhood to cocktail party, but how do they actually relate to our vocations? Our callings? Karen Swallow Prior wrote an exquisite book offering wisdom and clarification (not a step by step or how to text) surrounding these questions. She encourages readers to ask more questions about our calling and work, especially as it relates to our faith. For those of us who have struggled in this area (and who hasn’t?!), this is a conversation … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-309-karen-swallow-prior/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 309 – Karen Swallow Prior</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[What do you want to be when you grow up? What do you do for a living? Where do you work? These questions are common from childhood to cocktail party, but how do they actually relate to our vocations? Our callings? Karen Swallow Prior wrote an exquisite book offering wisdom and clarification (not a step by step or how to text) surrounding these questions. She encourages readers to ask more questions about our calling and work, especially as it relates to our faith. For those of us who have struggled in this area (and who hasn’t?!), this is a conversation … Continue reading Episode 309 – Karen Swallow Prior]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 309 - Karen Swallow Prior]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What do you want to be when you grow up? What do you do for a living? Where do you work? These questions are common from childhood to cocktail party, but how do they actually relate to our vocations? Our callings? Karen Swallow Prior wrote an exquisite book offering wisdom and clarification (not a step by step or how to text) surrounding these questions. She encourages readers to ask more questions about our calling and work, especially as it relates to our faith. For those of us who have struggled in this area (and who hasn’t?!), this is a conversation … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-309-karen-swallow-prior/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 309 – Karen Swallow Prior</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/2087014/c1e-z28ka77q70hn2ndg-dm25kwmjb2-uazy2h.mp3" length="83650031"
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                    <![CDATA[What do you want to be when you grow up? What do you do for a living? Where do you work? These questions are common from childhood to cocktail party, but how do they actually relate to our vocations? Our callings? Karen Swallow Prior wrote an exquisite book offering wisdom and clarification (not a step by step or how to text) surrounding these questions. She encourages readers to ask more questions about our calling and work, especially as it relates to our faith. For those of us who have struggled in this area (and who hasn’t?!), this is a conversation … Continue reading Episode 309 – Karen Swallow Prior]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:58:06</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 308 - Isaac Villegas]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 13:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2082578</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-308-isaac-villegas</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[For weeks, it seemed that everywhere I looked, I was seeing something about Isaac Villegas’s new book, Migrant God. I couldn’t wait to get my hands on it, and I was not disappointed once I did! With everything happening in the U.S. right now surrounding immigration, this text and conversation are right on time. Don’t get me wrong, the topic is always a relevant one, especially for Christians, but right now, we need sound, biblical wisdom from compassionate clergy and other faith leaders to lead the way. Isaac is one of those folks. Coming from an immigrant family and serving … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-308-isaac-villegas/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 308 – Isaac Villegas</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[For weeks, it seemed that everywhere I looked, I was seeing something about Isaac Villegas’s new book, Migrant God. I couldn’t wait to get my hands on it, and I was not disappointed once I did! With everything happening in the U.S. right now surrounding immigration, this text and conversation are right on time. Don’t get me wrong, the topic is always a relevant one, especially for Christians, but right now, we need sound, biblical wisdom from compassionate clergy and other faith leaders to lead the way. Isaac is one of those folks. Coming from an immigrant family and serving … Continue reading Episode 308 – Isaac Villegas]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 308 - Isaac Villegas]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For weeks, it seemed that everywhere I looked, I was seeing something about Isaac Villegas’s new book, Migrant God. I couldn’t wait to get my hands on it, and I was not disappointed once I did! With everything happening in the U.S. right now surrounding immigration, this text and conversation are right on time. Don’t get me wrong, the topic is always a relevant one, especially for Christians, but right now, we need sound, biblical wisdom from compassionate clergy and other faith leaders to lead the way. Isaac is one of those folks. Coming from an immigrant family and serving … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-308-isaac-villegas/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 308 – Isaac Villegas</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For weeks, it seemed that everywhere I looked, I was seeing something about Isaac Villegas’s new book, Migrant God. I couldn’t wait to get my hands on it, and I was not disappointed once I did! With everything happening in the U.S. right now surrounding immigration, this text and conversation are right on time. Don’t get me wrong, the topic is always a relevant one, especially for Christians, but right now, we need sound, biblical wisdom from compassionate clergy and other faith leaders to lead the way. Isaac is one of those folks. Coming from an immigrant family and serving … Continue reading Episode 308 – Isaac Villegas]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:15:23</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 307 - Aimee Byrd]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2077902</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-307-aimee-byrd</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to her, but how she is processing and healing from those traumatic events and seeing herself, God, and others more clearly on the other side. Unfortunately, her experiences are incredibly common in Christian communities, and the wisdom she shares is another tool to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-307-aimee-byrd/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 307 – Aimee Byrd</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to her, but how she is processing and healing from those traumatic events and seeing herself, God, and others more clearly on the other side. Unfortunately, her experiences are incredibly common in Christian communities, and the wisdom she shares is another tool to … Continue reading Episode 307 – Aimee Byrd]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 307 - Aimee Byrd]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to her, but how she is processing and healing from those traumatic events and seeing herself, God, and others more clearly on the other side. Unfortunately, her experiences are incredibly common in Christian communities, and the wisdom she shares is another tool to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-307-aimee-byrd/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 307 – Aimee Byrd</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to her, but how she is processing and healing from those traumatic events and seeing herself, God, and others more clearly on the other side. Unfortunately, her experiences are incredibly common in Christian communities, and the wisdom she shares is another tool to … Continue reading Episode 307 – Aimee Byrd]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:25</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 306 - Michaela O'Donnell]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2025 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2071258</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-306-michaela-odonnell</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Maybe because my life is currently in flux (and has been that way for a hot minute), I was honestly a bit hesitant to read my friend Michael O’Donnell‘s new book. I’m not exactly sure why I was nervous, but it did sit on my shelf for weeks (okay, maybe even months) before I finally picked it up, but I AM SO GRATEFUL I DID! Life in Flux is not some how-to book with lists of things to do that may or may not work. Dealing with change just doesn’t work that way. Instead, what you’ll find in the book … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=25528" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 306 – Michaela O’Donnell</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[Maybe because my life is currently in flux (and has been that way for a hot minute), I was honestly a bit hesitant to read my friend Michael O’Donnell‘s new book. I’m not exactly sure why I was nervous, but it did sit on my shelf for weeks (okay, maybe even months) before I finally picked it up, but I AM SO GRATEFUL I DID! Life in Flux is not some how-to book with lists of things to do that may or may not work. Dealing with change just doesn’t work that way. Instead, what you’ll find in the book … Continue reading Episode 306 – Michaela O’Donnell]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 306 - Michaela O'Donnell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Maybe because my life is currently in flux (and has been that way for a hot minute), I was honestly a bit hesitant to read my friend Michael O’Donnell‘s new book. I’m not exactly sure why I was nervous, but it did sit on my shelf for weeks (okay, maybe even months) before I finally picked it up, but I AM SO GRATEFUL I DID! Life in Flux is not some how-to book with lists of things to do that may or may not work. Dealing with change just doesn’t work that way. Instead, what you’ll find in the book … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=25528" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 306 – Michaela O’Donnell</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Maybe because my life is currently in flux (and has been that way for a hot minute), I was honestly a bit hesitant to read my friend Michael O’Donnell‘s new book. I’m not exactly sure why I was nervous, but it did sit on my shelf for weeks (okay, maybe even months) before I finally picked it up, but I AM SO GRATEFUL I DID! Life in Flux is not some how-to book with lists of things to do that may or may not work. Dealing with change just doesn’t work that way. Instead, what you’ll find in the book … Continue reading Episode 306 – Michaela O’Donnell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 305 - David Zahl]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2025 22:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[“We are all chasing relief.” I hadn’t really thought about it in quite the same way until I read David Zahl’s The Big Relief, but then I couldn’t unsee it. Around the same time, a friend sent me an Instagram reel of a woman just breathing in and telling herself to release her shoulders. Whatever we’re seeking relief from, many of us are seeking it. We are worn out. We are tired. And sometimes it’s hard to remain hopeful when we feel that way. That’s where the theology of grace can help. If we’ve grown up in or around church … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-305-david-zahl/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 305 – David Zahl</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“We are all chasing relief.” I hadn’t really thought about it in quite the same way until I read David Zahl’s The Big Relief, but then I couldn’t unsee it. Around the same time, a friend sent me an Instagram reel of a woman just breathing in and telling herself to release her shoulders. Whatever we’re seeking relief from, many of us are seeking it. We are worn out. We are tired. And sometimes it’s hard to remain hopeful when we feel that way. That’s where the theology of grace can help. If we’ve grown up in or around church … Continue reading Episode 305 – David Zahl]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 305 - David Zahl]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“We are all chasing relief.” I hadn’t really thought about it in quite the same way until I read David Zahl’s The Big Relief, but then I couldn’t unsee it. Around the same time, a friend sent me an Instagram reel of a woman just breathing in and telling herself to release her shoulders. Whatever we’re seeking relief from, many of us are seeking it. We are worn out. We are tired. And sometimes it’s hard to remain hopeful when we feel that way. That’s where the theology of grace can help. If we’ve grown up in or around church … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-305-david-zahl/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 305 – David Zahl</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[“We are all chasing relief.” I hadn’t really thought about it in quite the same way until I read David Zahl’s The Big Relief, but then I couldn’t unsee it. Around the same time, a friend sent me an Instagram reel of a woman just breathing in and telling herself to release her shoulders. Whatever we’re seeking relief from, many of us are seeking it. We are worn out. We are tired. And sometimes it’s hard to remain hopeful when we feel that way. That’s where the theology of grace can help. If we’ve grown up in or around church … Continue reading Episode 305 – David Zahl]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:11:56</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 304 - Cristina Rathbone]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Cristina Rathbone, an American Episcopal priest from a family with immigration journeys of their own, spent time at the border between the U.S. and Mexico to learn from and minister to those who were waiting to cross. A former journalist, Cristina shares about her experiences on the border as she met and interacted with individuals and families who were hoping, waiting to seek asylum in the United States. The people Cristina lived with daily were primarily from Mexico, living in fear of their lives or safety, because of credible threats they had experienced. Her new book The Asylum Seekers tells … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-304-cristina-rathbone/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 304 – Cristina Rathbone</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Cristina Rathbone, an American Episcopal priest from a family with immigration journeys of their own, spent time at the border between the U.S. and Mexico to learn from and minister to those who were waiting to cross. A former journalist, Cristina shares about her experiences on the border as she met and interacted with individuals and families who were hoping, waiting to seek asylum in the United States. The people Cristina lived with daily were primarily from Mexico, living in fear of their lives or safety, because of credible threats they had experienced. Her new book The Asylum Seekers tells … Continue reading Episode 304 – Cristina Rathbone]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 304 - Cristina Rathbone]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Cristina Rathbone, an American Episcopal priest from a family with immigration journeys of their own, spent time at the border between the U.S. and Mexico to learn from and minister to those who were waiting to cross. A former journalist, Cristina shares about her experiences on the border as she met and interacted with individuals and families who were hoping, waiting to seek asylum in the United States. The people Cristina lived with daily were primarily from Mexico, living in fear of their lives or safety, because of credible threats they had experienced. Her new book The Asylum Seekers tells … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-304-cristina-rathbone/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 304 – Cristina Rathbone</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Cristina Rathbone, an American Episcopal priest from a family with immigration journeys of their own, spent time at the border between the U.S. and Mexico to learn from and minister to those who were waiting to cross. A former journalist, Cristina shares about her experiences on the border as she met and interacted with individuals and families who were hoping, waiting to seek asylum in the United States. The people Cristina lived with daily were primarily from Mexico, living in fear of their lives or safety, because of credible threats they had experienced. Her new book The Asylum Seekers tells … Continue reading Episode 304 – Cristina Rathbone]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:38</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 303 - Destiny Magnett]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2025 16:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-303-destiny-magnett</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Destiny Magnett is part of a wonderful team at one of my favorite organizations, Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP). Destiny has travelled extensively to the Middle East and has been personally impacted by her education and experiences with people living in the land as they are impacted by the conflict, policies, wars, and politics. My own travel to the Holy Land began back in 2003 right after the second intifada. Since then, I have taken just shy of a dozen trips, most of them for weeks at a time, but it wasn’t until 2022, almost 20 years after I … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-303-destiny-magnett/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 303 – Destiny Magnett</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Destiny Magnett is part of a wonderful team at one of my favorite organizations, Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP). Destiny has travelled extensively to the Middle East and has been personally impacted by her education and experiences with people living in the land as they are impacted by the conflict, policies, wars, and politics. My own travel to the Holy Land began back in 2003 right after the second intifada. Since then, I have taken just shy of a dozen trips, most of them for weeks at a time, but it wasn’t until 2022, almost 20 years after I … Continue reading Episode 303 – Destiny Magnett]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 303 - Destiny Magnett]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Destiny Magnett is part of a wonderful team at one of my favorite organizations, Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP). Destiny has travelled extensively to the Middle East and has been personally impacted by her education and experiences with people living in the land as they are impacted by the conflict, policies, wars, and politics. My own travel to the Holy Land began back in 2003 right after the second intifada. Since then, I have taken just shy of a dozen trips, most of them for weeks at a time, but it wasn’t until 2022, almost 20 years after I … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-303-destiny-magnett/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 303 – Destiny Magnett</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Destiny Magnett is part of a wonderful team at one of my favorite organizations, Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP). Destiny has travelled extensively to the Middle East and has been personally impacted by her education and experiences with people living in the land as they are impacted by the conflict, policies, wars, and politics. My own travel to the Holy Land began back in 2003 right after the second intifada. Since then, I have taken just shy of a dozen trips, most of them for weeks at a time, but it wasn’t until 2022, almost 20 years after I … Continue reading Episode 303 – Destiny Magnett]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:05:55</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 302 - Mark Glanville]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2025 23:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2045808</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-302-mark-glanville</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Hosting a return guest is one of my favorite things to do (maybe especially when that guest is seated next to his piano…)! Mark Glanville is a pastor in what he names as a post-Christian context. And even though this conversation is based on his book about writing sermons, it is truly for anyone who has even heard a sermon (my bet is, that’s you!). In Preaching in a New Key, Mark writes about how each one of us has a relationship to preaching in one context or another, or possibly many. Understanding how we relate to sermons can be … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-302-mark-glanville/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 302 – Mark Glanville</span></a>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Hosting a return guest is one of my favorite things to do (maybe especially when that guest is seated next to his piano…)! Mark Glanville is a pastor in what he names as a post-Christian context. And even though this conversation is based on his book about writing sermons, it is truly for anyone who has even heard a sermon (my bet is, that’s you!). In Preaching in a New Key, Mark writes about how each one of us has a relationship to preaching in one context or another, or possibly many. Understanding how we relate to sermons can be … Continue reading Episode 302 – Mark Glanville]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 302 - Mark Glanville]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Hosting a return guest is one of my favorite things to do (maybe especially when that guest is seated next to his piano…)! Mark Glanville is a pastor in what he names as a post-Christian context. And even though this conversation is based on his book about writing sermons, it is truly for anyone who has even heard a sermon (my bet is, that’s you!). In Preaching in a New Key, Mark writes about how each one of us has a relationship to preaching in one context or another, or possibly many. Understanding how we relate to sermons can be … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-302-mark-glanville/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 302 – Mark Glanville</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Hosting a return guest is one of my favorite things to do (maybe especially when that guest is seated next to his piano…)! Mark Glanville is a pastor in what he names as a post-Christian context. And even though this conversation is based on his book about writing sermons, it is truly for anyone who has even heard a sermon (my bet is, that’s you!). In Preaching in a New Key, Mark writes about how each one of us has a relationship to preaching in one context or another, or possibly many. Understanding how we relate to sermons can be … Continue reading Episode 302 – Mark Glanville]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:25</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 301 - Cara Meredith]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2025 23:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/2042172</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-301-cara-meredith</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Welcome, Cara Meredith, back to the podcast! Cara was so kind to join me waaay back in the early months of the podcast and now she’s been brave enough to do it again! The topic in this conversation is one that is near and dear (and complicated) to both of our hearts, and maybe yours too – church camp. For those (like my husband and producer) who may have never gone to American evangelical church camp, it is a unique experience, and while each camp is a little different, they each share some characteristics, namely a multi-day path to a … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-301-cara-meredith/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 301 – Cara Meredith</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Welcome, Cara Meredith, back to the podcast! Cara was so kind to join me waaay back in the early months of the podcast and now she’s been brave enough to do it again! The topic in this conversation is one that is near and dear (and complicated) to both of our hearts, and maybe yours too – church camp. For those (like my husband and producer) who may have never gone to American evangelical church camp, it is a unique experience, and while each camp is a little different, they each share some characteristics, namely a multi-day path to a … Continue reading Episode 301 – Cara Meredith]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 301 - Cara Meredith]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Welcome, Cara Meredith, back to the podcast! Cara was so kind to join me waaay back in the early months of the podcast and now she’s been brave enough to do it again! The topic in this conversation is one that is near and dear (and complicated) to both of our hearts, and maybe yours too – church camp. For those (like my husband and producer) who may have never gone to American evangelical church camp, it is a unique experience, and while each camp is a little different, they each share some characteristics, namely a multi-day path to a … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-301-cara-meredith/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 301 – Cara Meredith</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Welcome, Cara Meredith, back to the podcast! Cara was so kind to join me waaay back in the early months of the podcast and now she’s been brave enough to do it again! The topic in this conversation is one that is near and dear (and complicated) to both of our hearts, and maybe yours too – church camp. For those (like my husband and producer) who may have never gone to American evangelical church camp, it is a unique experience, and while each camp is a little different, they each share some characteristics, namely a multi-day path to a … Continue reading Episode 301 – Cara Meredith]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:54</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 300 - Alexis & Seth]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2025 01:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-300-alexis-amp-seth</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Eek! THIS MARKS 300 EPISODES!!! First of all, THANK YOU for listening to That Makes Total Sense! It really is one of the most fun things I get to do and I am *thrilled* to share it with each of you! Second, for this conversation, I got to interview my best friend, husband, editor, and producer of the podcast – drumroll, please…..Seth Busetti! This conversation is part behind-the-scenes, part producer insight, and part celebration. Again, thanks so much for listening and sharing. Here’s to 300 more! Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 205 with Karen Swallow Prior Ep. 131 with Young-Sam … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-300-alexis-seth/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 300 – Alexis &amp; Seth</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Eek! THIS MARKS 300 EPISODES!!! First of all, THANK YOU for listening to That Makes Total Sense! It really is one of the most fun things I get to do and I am *thrilled* to share it with each of you! Second, for this conversation, I got to interview my best friend, husband, editor, and producer of the podcast – drumroll, please…..Seth Busetti! This conversation is part behind-the-scenes, part producer insight, and part celebration. Again, thanks so much for listening and sharing. Here’s to 300 more! Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 205 with Karen Swallow Prior Ep. 131 with Young-Sam … Continue reading Episode 300 – Alexis & Seth]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 300 - Alexis & Seth]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Eek! THIS MARKS 300 EPISODES!!! First of all, THANK YOU for listening to That Makes Total Sense! It really is one of the most fun things I get to do and I am *thrilled* to share it with each of you! Second, for this conversation, I got to interview my best friend, husband, editor, and producer of the podcast – drumroll, please…..Seth Busetti! This conversation is part behind-the-scenes, part producer insight, and part celebration. Again, thanks so much for listening and sharing. Here’s to 300 more! Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 205 with Karen Swallow Prior Ep. 131 with Young-Sam … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-300-alexis-seth/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 300 – Alexis &amp; Seth</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Eek! THIS MARKS 300 EPISODES!!! First of all, THANK YOU for listening to That Makes Total Sense! It really is one of the most fun things I get to do and I am *thrilled* to share it with each of you! Second, for this conversation, I got to interview my best friend, husband, editor, and producer of the podcast – drumroll, please…..Seth Busetti! This conversation is part behind-the-scenes, part producer insight, and part celebration. Again, thanks so much for listening and sharing. Here’s to 300 more! Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 205 with Karen Swallow Prior Ep. 131 with Young-Sam … Continue reading Episode 300 – Alexis & Seth]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:50:16</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 299 - Philip Marinello]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2025 14:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[We’ve got something a little different (and super fun!) with this episode. Philip Marinello of The Substance invited me back on his podcast and we had a blast catching up and talking about all things faith, politics, and of course generosity and justice! Philip loves chatting about many of the same topics as me and he’s a big film aficionado with lots of movie episodes for you cinema buffs. Thanks Philip, for putting this one together for us! Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 117 with The Substance podcast Ep. 205 with Karen Swallow Prior Ep. 283 with Liz Charlotte Grant … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-299-philip-marinello/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 299 – Philip Marinello</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’ve got something a little different (and super fun!) with this episode. Philip Marinello of The Substance invited me back on his podcast and we had a blast catching up and talking about all things faith, politics, and of course generosity and justice! Philip loves chatting about many of the same topics as me and he’s a big film aficionado with lots of movie episodes for you cinema buffs. Thanks Philip, for putting this one together for us! Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 117 with The Substance podcast Ep. 205 with Karen Swallow Prior Ep. 283 with Liz Charlotte Grant … Continue reading Episode 299 – Philip Marinello]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 299 - Philip Marinello]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’ve got something a little different (and super fun!) with this episode. Philip Marinello of The Substance invited me back on his podcast and we had a blast catching up and talking about all things faith, politics, and of course generosity and justice! Philip loves chatting about many of the same topics as me and he’s a big film aficionado with lots of movie episodes for you cinema buffs. Thanks Philip, for putting this one together for us! Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 117 with The Substance podcast Ep. 205 with Karen Swallow Prior Ep. 283 with Liz Charlotte Grant … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-299-philip-marinello/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 299 – Philip Marinello</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’ve got something a little different (and super fun!) with this episode. Philip Marinello of The Substance invited me back on his podcast and we had a blast catching up and talking about all things faith, politics, and of course generosity and justice! Philip loves chatting about many of the same topics as me and he’s a big film aficionado with lots of movie episodes for you cinema buffs. Thanks Philip, for putting this one together for us! Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 117 with The Substance podcast Ep. 205 with Karen Swallow Prior Ep. 283 with Liz Charlotte Grant … Continue reading Episode 299 – Philip Marinello]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 298 - Angela Williams Gorrell]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2025 22:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[My kids tell me I’m a Hufflepuff. I don’t exactly deny it and encounters like the one Angela and I had might just add evidence to their label, lol! One minute we found ourselves sitting at dinner together, each invited by friends to a table where we didn’t know most of the diners, and the next minute we’re talking about work and possibilities for this interview! Hufflepuff or not, I’m grateful to know Angela, to have read her book, and to have shared conversations with her. She, like so many of us, has navigated seasons in her life when the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-298-angela-williams-gorrell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 298 – Angela Williams Gorrell</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My kids tell me I’m a Hufflepuff. I don’t exactly deny it and encounters like the one Angela and I had might just add evidence to their label, lol! One minute we found ourselves sitting at dinner together, each invited by friends to a table where we didn’t know most of the diners, and the next minute we’re talking about work and possibilities for this interview! Hufflepuff or not, I’m grateful to know Angela, to have read her book, and to have shared conversations with her. She, like so many of us, has navigated seasons in her life when the … Continue reading Episode 298 – Angela Williams Gorrell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 298 - Angela Williams Gorrell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My kids tell me I’m a Hufflepuff. I don’t exactly deny it and encounters like the one Angela and I had might just add evidence to their label, lol! One minute we found ourselves sitting at dinner together, each invited by friends to a table where we didn’t know most of the diners, and the next minute we’re talking about work and possibilities for this interview! Hufflepuff or not, I’m grateful to know Angela, to have read her book, and to have shared conversations with her. She, like so many of us, has navigated seasons in her life when the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-298-angela-williams-gorrell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 298 – Angela Williams Gorrell</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My kids tell me I’m a Hufflepuff. I don’t exactly deny it and encounters like the one Angela and I had might just add evidence to their label, lol! One minute we found ourselves sitting at dinner together, each invited by friends to a table where we didn’t know most of the diners, and the next minute we’re talking about work and possibilities for this interview! Hufflepuff or not, I’m grateful to know Angela, to have read her book, and to have shared conversations with her. She, like so many of us, has navigated seasons in her life when the … Continue reading Episode 298 – Angela Williams Gorrell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 297 - Resurrection Reflections (re-release)]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2025 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 297 - Resurrection Reflections (re-release)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:13:07</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 296 - Young-Sam Won (re-play!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 21:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[A note from the producer: “I normally try to get the podcasts done over the weekend so they can release Sunday night or Monday morning. This weekend however, I was off climbing on rocks and doing professional work – noting my usual day job is not a producer. Anyways, I hope listeners don’t mind that we opted to replay an older episode. I thought it’d be worthwhile to replay this discussion with Sam Won. He’s a professor and is incredibly smart and thoughtful. And he’s fighting for social justice and teaching people about racism from within a traditionally conservative religious … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-296-young-sam-won/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 296 – Young-Sam Won (re-play!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A note from the producer: “I normally try to get the podcasts done over the weekend so they can release Sunday night or Monday morning. This weekend however, I was off climbing on rocks and doing professional work – noting my usual day job is not a producer. Anyways, I hope listeners don’t mind that we opted to replay an older episode. I thought it’d be worthwhile to replay this discussion with Sam Won. He’s a professor and is incredibly smart and thoughtful. And he’s fighting for social justice and teaching people about racism from within a traditionally conservative religious … Continue reading Episode 296 – Young-Sam Won (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 296 - Young-Sam Won (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A note from the producer: “I normally try to get the podcasts done over the weekend so they can release Sunday night or Monday morning. This weekend however, I was off climbing on rocks and doing professional work – noting my usual day job is not a producer. Anyways, I hope listeners don’t mind that we opted to replay an older episode. I thought it’d be worthwhile to replay this discussion with Sam Won. He’s a professor and is incredibly smart and thoughtful. And he’s fighting for social justice and teaching people about racism from within a traditionally conservative religious … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-296-young-sam-won/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 296 – Young-Sam Won (re-play!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A note from the producer: “I normally try to get the podcasts done over the weekend so they can release Sunday night or Monday morning. This weekend however, I was off climbing on rocks and doing professional work – noting my usual day job is not a producer. Anyways, I hope listeners don’t mind that we opted to replay an older episode. I thought it’d be worthwhile to replay this discussion with Sam Won. He’s a professor and is incredibly smart and thoughtful. And he’s fighting for social justice and teaching people about racism from within a traditionally conservative religious … Continue reading Episode 296 – Young-Sam Won (re-play!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:10:38</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 295 - Meryl Herr]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2025 11:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-295-meryl-herr-1</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[The current job situation in the U.S. right now is hard to navigate, to say the least. Whether it’s layoffs for federal employees, toxic bosses and cultures, or burnout, our work lives involve so much more than just the actual work. Thankfully, people like Meryl Herr are paying attention. Her new book, When Work Hurts was written from her own experiences, interviews with individuals who have had their share of work heartache, and the biblical story of Ezra and Nehemiah. In it, and in this conversation, Meryl helps us name some of what we’re experiencing and encourages us in our … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-295-meryl-herr/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 295 – Meryl Herr</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The current job situation in the U.S. right now is hard to navigate, to say the least. Whether it’s layoffs for federal employees, toxic bosses and cultures, or burnout, our work lives involve so much more than just the actual work. Thankfully, people like Meryl Herr are paying attention. Her new book, When Work Hurts was written from her own experiences, interviews with individuals who have had their share of work heartache, and the biblical story of Ezra and Nehemiah. In it, and in this conversation, Meryl helps us name some of what we’re experiencing and encourages us in our … Continue reading Episode 295 – Meryl Herr]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 295 - Meryl Herr]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The current job situation in the U.S. right now is hard to navigate, to say the least. Whether it’s layoffs for federal employees, toxic bosses and cultures, or burnout, our work lives involve so much more than just the actual work. Thankfully, people like Meryl Herr are paying attention. Her new book, When Work Hurts was written from her own experiences, interviews with individuals who have had their share of work heartache, and the biblical story of Ezra and Nehemiah. In it, and in this conversation, Meryl helps us name some of what we’re experiencing and encourages us in our … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-295-meryl-herr/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 295 – Meryl Herr</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The current job situation in the U.S. right now is hard to navigate, to say the least. Whether it’s layoffs for federal employees, toxic bosses and cultures, or burnout, our work lives involve so much more than just the actual work. Thankfully, people like Meryl Herr are paying attention. Her new book, When Work Hurts was written from her own experiences, interviews with individuals who have had their share of work heartache, and the biblical story of Ezra and Nehemiah. In it, and in this conversation, Meryl helps us name some of what we’re experiencing and encourages us in our … Continue reading Episode 295 – Meryl Herr]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:10:35</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 294 - Lisa Stephenson & Ruthie Wienk]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2025 23:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-294-lisa-stephenson-amp-ruthie-wienk</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Drs. Lisa Stephenson and Ruthie Wienk are professors of systematic theology and sociology, respectively, and they have teamed up to write a wonderful, textual guide on service in the Christian community. Historically, and even now, the evangelical community in the U.S. has gone through different phases and stances on service or what some may call justice or social justice. This conversation highlights some of the biblical encouragements toward service and ways in which we can practice them in our contemporary contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Redemptive Service: Loving Our Neighbors Well by Lisa P. Stephenson, Ruthie Wienk Episode 147 with … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-294-lisa-stephenson-ruthie-wienk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 294 – Lisa Stephenson &amp; Ruthie Wienk</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Drs. Lisa Stephenson and Ruthie Wienk are professors of systematic theology and sociology, respectively, and they have teamed up to write a wonderful, textual guide on service in the Christian community. Historically, and even now, the evangelical community in the U.S. has gone through different phases and stances on service or what some may call justice or social justice. This conversation highlights some of the biblical encouragements toward service and ways in which we can practice them in our contemporary contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Redemptive Service: Loving Our Neighbors Well by Lisa P. Stephenson, Ruthie Wienk Episode 147 with … Continue reading Episode 294 – Lisa Stephenson & Ruthie Wienk]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 294 - Lisa Stephenson & Ruthie Wienk]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Drs. Lisa Stephenson and Ruthie Wienk are professors of systematic theology and sociology, respectively, and they have teamed up to write a wonderful, textual guide on service in the Christian community. Historically, and even now, the evangelical community in the U.S. has gone through different phases and stances on service or what some may call justice or social justice. This conversation highlights some of the biblical encouragements toward service and ways in which we can practice them in our contemporary contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Redemptive Service: Loving Our Neighbors Well by Lisa P. Stephenson, Ruthie Wienk Episode 147 with … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-294-lisa-stephenson-ruthie-wienk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 294 – Lisa Stephenson &amp; Ruthie Wienk</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Drs. Lisa Stephenson and Ruthie Wienk are professors of systematic theology and sociology, respectively, and they have teamed up to write a wonderful, textual guide on service in the Christian community. Historically, and even now, the evangelical community in the U.S. has gone through different phases and stances on service or what some may call justice or social justice. This conversation highlights some of the biblical encouragements toward service and ways in which we can practice them in our contemporary contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Redemptive Service: Loving Our Neighbors Well by Lisa P. Stephenson, Ruthie Wienk Episode 147 with … Continue reading Episode 294 – Lisa Stephenson & Ruthie Wienk]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 293 - Todd Hall]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-293-todd-hall-1</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Lately, the psychology section on my bookshelf has increased by a few titles, and while I have zero background in the field (except seeing a therapist, hallelujah!), it is increasingly more fascinating to me. This conversation with Todd Hall, professor of psychology, was a great addition to my novice study (though it would also be great for the well-read!). We talked about the disconnect in Christian history of theology and spirituality, which is foundational in his book Relational Spirituality (which is fabulously interesting!). And what the resurgence of spiritual formation, integrated with psychology, is adding to our holistic experience as … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-293-todd-hall/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 293 – Todd Hall</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lately, the psychology section on my bookshelf has increased by a few titles, and while I have zero background in the field (except seeing a therapist, hallelujah!), it is increasingly more fascinating to me. This conversation with Todd Hall, professor of psychology, was a great addition to my novice study (though it would also be great for the well-read!). We talked about the disconnect in Christian history of theology and spirituality, which is foundational in his book Relational Spirituality (which is fabulously interesting!). And what the resurgence of spiritual formation, integrated with psychology, is adding to our holistic experience as … Continue reading Episode 293 – Todd Hall]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 293 - Todd Hall]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lately, the psychology section on my bookshelf has increased by a few titles, and while I have zero background in the field (except seeing a therapist, hallelujah!), it is increasingly more fascinating to me. This conversation with Todd Hall, professor of psychology, was a great addition to my novice study (though it would also be great for the well-read!). We talked about the disconnect in Christian history of theology and spirituality, which is foundational in his book Relational Spirituality (which is fabulously interesting!). And what the resurgence of spiritual formation, integrated with psychology, is adding to our holistic experience as … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-293-todd-hall/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 293 – Todd Hall</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lately, the psychology section on my bookshelf has increased by a few titles, and while I have zero background in the field (except seeing a therapist, hallelujah!), it is increasingly more fascinating to me. This conversation with Todd Hall, professor of psychology, was a great addition to my novice study (though it would also be great for the well-read!). We talked about the disconnect in Christian history of theology and spirituality, which is foundational in his book Relational Spirituality (which is fabulously interesting!). And what the resurgence of spiritual formation, integrated with psychology, is adding to our holistic experience as … Continue reading Episode 293 – Todd Hall]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:13:08</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 292 - Erin Devers]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 01:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with Dr. Erin Devers was so much fun! We discussed some of the concepts from her new book, The Unbiased Self, and I found it to be fascinating. As a psychology professor, Erin brings so much insight into the world of bias, how we all operate with it, and what we can do to change those instincts. Spoiler alert, Erin provides us with this little piece of wisdom to keep in mind when we think about why we all do things – When we make decisions, we do so because 1. We want to be right, and 2. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-292-erin-devers/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 292 – Erin Devers</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Dr. Erin Devers was so much fun! We discussed some of the concepts from her new book, The Unbiased Self, and I found it to be fascinating. As a psychology professor, Erin brings so much insight into the world of bias, how we all operate with it, and what we can do to change those instincts. Spoiler alert, Erin provides us with this little piece of wisdom to keep in mind when we think about why we all do things – When we make decisions, we do so because 1. We want to be right, and 2. … Continue reading Episode 292 – Erin Devers]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 292 - Erin Devers]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Dr. Erin Devers was so much fun! We discussed some of the concepts from her new book, The Unbiased Self, and I found it to be fascinating. As a psychology professor, Erin brings so much insight into the world of bias, how we all operate with it, and what we can do to change those instincts. Spoiler alert, Erin provides us with this little piece of wisdom to keep in mind when we think about why we all do things – When we make decisions, we do so because 1. We want to be right, and 2. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-292-erin-devers/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 292 – Erin Devers</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Dr. Erin Devers was so much fun! We discussed some of the concepts from her new book, The Unbiased Self, and I found it to be fascinating. As a psychology professor, Erin brings so much insight into the world of bias, how we all operate with it, and what we can do to change those instincts. Spoiler alert, Erin provides us with this little piece of wisdom to keep in mind when we think about why we all do things – When we make decisions, we do so because 1. We want to be right, and 2. … Continue reading Episode 292 – Erin Devers]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:03:50</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 291 - Caryn Reeder (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2025 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Producer’s pick in honor of Women’s History Month! Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it has been used to shame women throughout the centuries. Then she takes a closer look at the text to provide a more historically sound interpretation that redeems not only the Samaritan woman, but all women who have been subjected to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-291-caryn-reeder-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 291 – Caryn Reeder (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick in honor of Women’s History Month! Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it has been used to shame women throughout the centuries. Then she takes a closer look at the text to provide a more historically sound interpretation that redeems not only the Samaritan woman, but all women who have been subjected to … Continue reading Episode 291 – Caryn Reeder (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 291 - Caryn Reeder (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick in honor of Women’s History Month! Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it has been used to shame women throughout the centuries. Then she takes a closer look at the text to provide a more historically sound interpretation that redeems not only the Samaritan woman, but all women who have been subjected to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-291-caryn-reeder-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 291 – Caryn Reeder (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s pick in honor of Women’s History Month! Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it has been used to shame women throughout the centuries. Then she takes a closer look at the text to provide a more historically sound interpretation that redeems not only the Samaritan woman, but all women who have been subjected to … Continue reading Episode 291 – Caryn Reeder (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 290 - Andrew Bauman]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2025 17:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I experienced so many emotions reading Andrew Bauman‘s new book, Safe Church. Among them, was the feeling of being seen. In his research, Andrew, who is a professional counselor, surveyed and interviewed women who have spent various amounts of time in evangelical churches and ministry environments in the U.S. These women reported experiences of sexism and abuse inside of those places. Each statistic and story is a reminder of the existing systems, and how harmful they continue to be for women. If you’re a woman listening to this episode or reading this book, I’m curious what resonated with you. If … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-290-andrew-bauman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 290 – Andrew Bauman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I experienced so many emotions reading Andrew Bauman‘s new book, Safe Church. Among them, was the feeling of being seen. In his research, Andrew, who is a professional counselor, surveyed and interviewed women who have spent various amounts of time in evangelical churches and ministry environments in the U.S. These women reported experiences of sexism and abuse inside of those places. Each statistic and story is a reminder of the existing systems, and how harmful they continue to be for women. If you’re a woman listening to this episode or reading this book, I’m curious what resonated with you. If … Continue reading Episode 290 – Andrew Bauman]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 290 - Andrew Bauman]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I experienced so many emotions reading Andrew Bauman‘s new book, Safe Church. Among them, was the feeling of being seen. In his research, Andrew, who is a professional counselor, surveyed and interviewed women who have spent various amounts of time in evangelical churches and ministry environments in the U.S. These women reported experiences of sexism and abuse inside of those places. Each statistic and story is a reminder of the existing systems, and how harmful they continue to be for women. If you’re a woman listening to this episode or reading this book, I’m curious what resonated with you. If … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-290-andrew-bauman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 290 – Andrew Bauman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I experienced so many emotions reading Andrew Bauman‘s new book, Safe Church. Among them, was the feeling of being seen. In his research, Andrew, who is a professional counselor, surveyed and interviewed women who have spent various amounts of time in evangelical churches and ministry environments in the U.S. These women reported experiences of sexism and abuse inside of those places. Each statistic and story is a reminder of the existing systems, and how harmful they continue to be for women. If you’re a woman listening to this episode or reading this book, I’m curious what resonated with you. If … Continue reading Episode 290 – Andrew Bauman]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:55:37</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 289 - Mike Austin]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1980892</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-289-mike-austin</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[As you can see from the search below, Christian nationalism has been a common topic on the podcast. Professor Michael W. Austin has written a short book called simply, American Christian Nationalism, and our conversation on that text is one I am happy to have as an addition to the list. Mike gives us a good working definition, and we chat about the history of Christian nationalism and how it continues to affect us as citizens today. If you’re watching the news or attending church and feeling confused about what you’re seeing or compelled to learn more, this is the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-289-mike-austin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 289 – Mike Austin</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[As you can see from the search below, Christian nationalism has been a common topic on the podcast. Professor Michael W. Austin has written a short book called simply, American Christian Nationalism, and our conversation on that text is one I am happy to have as an addition to the list. Mike gives us a good working definition, and we chat about the history of Christian nationalism and how it continues to affect us as citizens today. If you’re watching the news or attending church and feeling confused about what you’re seeing or compelled to learn more, this is the … Continue reading Episode 289 – Mike Austin]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 289 - Mike Austin]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As you can see from the search below, Christian nationalism has been a common topic on the podcast. Professor Michael W. Austin has written a short book called simply, American Christian Nationalism, and our conversation on that text is one I am happy to have as an addition to the list. Mike gives us a good working definition, and we chat about the history of Christian nationalism and how it continues to affect us as citizens today. If you’re watching the news or attending church and feeling confused about what you’re seeing or compelled to learn more, this is the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-289-mike-austin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 289 – Mike Austin</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As you can see from the search below, Christian nationalism has been a common topic on the podcast. Professor Michael W. Austin has written a short book called simply, American Christian Nationalism, and our conversation on that text is one I am happy to have as an addition to the list. Mike gives us a good working definition, and we chat about the history of Christian nationalism and how it continues to affect us as citizens today. If you’re watching the news or attending church and feeling confused about what you’re seeing or compelled to learn more, this is the … Continue reading Episode 289 – Mike Austin]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:42</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 288 - Andrew Draper]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1975402</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-288-andrew-draper</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[As you’ll hear throughout this conversation, concepts within the field of disability theology are ones that I have struggled and wrestled with for years (even before I knew how to label them). This book, Disabling Leadership, by Andrew Draper and his co-authors is unique in that it covers, not only aspects of disability theology, but it does so in conjunction with leadership studies, specifically in the church. I invite you to listen, wrestle with us, and check out the resources and scholars below who are also contributing and conversing on this very personal and important topic. Mentioned in this episode: … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-288-andrew-draper/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 288 – Andrew Draper</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As you’ll hear throughout this conversation, concepts within the field of disability theology are ones that I have struggled and wrestled with for years (even before I knew how to label them). This book, Disabling Leadership, by Andrew Draper and his co-authors is unique in that it covers, not only aspects of disability theology, but it does so in conjunction with leadership studies, specifically in the church. I invite you to listen, wrestle with us, and check out the resources and scholars below who are also contributing and conversing on this very personal and important topic. Mentioned in this episode: … Continue reading Episode 288 – Andrew Draper]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 288 - Andrew Draper]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As you’ll hear throughout this conversation, concepts within the field of disability theology are ones that I have struggled and wrestled with for years (even before I knew how to label them). This book, Disabling Leadership, by Andrew Draper and his co-authors is unique in that it covers, not only aspects of disability theology, but it does so in conjunction with leadership studies, specifically in the church. I invite you to listen, wrestle with us, and check out the resources and scholars below who are also contributing and conversing on this very personal and important topic. Mentioned in this episode: … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-288-andrew-draper/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 288 – Andrew Draper</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As you’ll hear throughout this conversation, concepts within the field of disability theology are ones that I have struggled and wrestled with for years (even before I knew how to label them). This book, Disabling Leadership, by Andrew Draper and his co-authors is unique in that it covers, not only aspects of disability theology, but it does so in conjunction with leadership studies, specifically in the church. I invite you to listen, wrestle with us, and check out the resources and scholars below who are also contributing and conversing on this very personal and important topic. Mentioned in this episode: … Continue reading Episode 288 – Andrew Draper]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:18:47</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 287 - Joel Edward Goza]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2025 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1969577</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-287-joel-edward-goza</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Joel Edward Goza joined me on the podcast to talk about his newest book, Rebirth of a Nation: Reparations and Remaking America. You might recognize in the title, a take on another title, The Birth of a Nation, an incredibly harmful and racist film shown at the White House in 1915 by president Woodrow Wilson. In the book, Joel explores parts of our racist history through the stories and writings of national leaders, some who are still household names and others less well-known, but no less influential. We also talk about the need for reparations, and what that process might … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-287-joel-edward-goza/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 287 – Joel Edward Goza</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joel Edward Goza joined me on the podcast to talk about his newest book, Rebirth of a Nation: Reparations and Remaking America. You might recognize in the title, a take on another title, The Birth of a Nation, an incredibly harmful and racist film shown at the White House in 1915 by president Woodrow Wilson. In the book, Joel explores parts of our racist history through the stories and writings of national leaders, some who are still household names and others less well-known, but no less influential. We also talk about the need for reparations, and what that process might … Continue reading Episode 287 – Joel Edward Goza]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 287 - Joel Edward Goza]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joel Edward Goza joined me on the podcast to talk about his newest book, Rebirth of a Nation: Reparations and Remaking America. You might recognize in the title, a take on another title, The Birth of a Nation, an incredibly harmful and racist film shown at the White House in 1915 by president Woodrow Wilson. In the book, Joel explores parts of our racist history through the stories and writings of national leaders, some who are still household names and others less well-known, but no less influential. We also talk about the need for reparations, and what that process might … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-287-joel-edward-goza/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 287 – Joel Edward Goza</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joel Edward Goza joined me on the podcast to talk about his newest book, Rebirth of a Nation: Reparations and Remaking America. You might recognize in the title, a take on another title, The Birth of a Nation, an incredibly harmful and racist film shown at the White House in 1915 by president Woodrow Wilson. In the book, Joel explores parts of our racist history through the stories and writings of national leaders, some who are still household names and others less well-known, but no less influential. We also talk about the need for reparations, and what that process might … Continue reading Episode 287 – Joel Edward Goza]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:29</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 286 - Heather Matthews]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2025 22:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1965471</guid>
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                                            <![CDATA[When I first started reading Heather Matthews’ new book, Confronting Sexism in the Church, I was struck (yet again) by how familiar her story is. Over and over again, I have come to realize that I’m not the only one. So many other women have been told they are less than, that they couldn’t have possibly heard their call to ministry correctly, how preaching and teaching are for men only, the list goes on and on. For so many years, many of us either believed or fought against the lies that men held a special place in God’s heart and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-286-heather-matthews/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 286 – Heather Matthews</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When I first started reading Heather Matthews’ new book, Confronting Sexism in the Church, I was struck (yet again) by how familiar her story is. Over and over again, I have come to realize that I’m not the only one. So many other women have been told they are less than, that they couldn’t have possibly heard their call to ministry correctly, how preaching and teaching are for men only, the list goes on and on. For so many years, many of us either believed or fought against the lies that men held a special place in God’s heart and … Continue reading Episode 286 – Heather Matthews]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 286 - Heather Matthews]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When I first started reading Heather Matthews’ new book, Confronting Sexism in the Church, I was struck (yet again) by how familiar her story is. Over and over again, I have come to realize that I’m not the only one. So many other women have been told they are less than, that they couldn’t have possibly heard their call to ministry correctly, how preaching and teaching are for men only, the list goes on and on. For so many years, many of us either believed or fought against the lies that men held a special place in God’s heart and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-286-heather-matthews/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 286 – Heather Matthews</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When I first started reading Heather Matthews’ new book, Confronting Sexism in the Church, I was struck (yet again) by how familiar her story is. Over and over again, I have come to realize that I’m not the only one. So many other women have been told they are less than, that they couldn’t have possibly heard their call to ministry correctly, how preaching and teaching are for men only, the list goes on and on. For so many years, many of us either believed or fought against the lies that men held a special place in God’s heart and … Continue reading Episode 286 – Heather Matthews]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:44:52</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 285 - Erin Hicks Moon]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 01:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[The wise and hilarious Erin Hicks Moon joined me for this episode and I am thrilled to share it with you! She has written a book on deconstruction called, I’ve Got Questions, and reading it felt like collecting little pieces of home over a cup of coffee with a friend who understood right where I had been. Erin, like so many of us grew up in a faith where certainty felt like a major goal and questions were not necessarily welcomed. For any of us who can relate to that (hand raised high over here!), this book (and conversation) has … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-285-erin-hicks-moon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 285 – Erin Hicks Moon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The wise and hilarious Erin Hicks Moon joined me for this episode and I am thrilled to share it with you! She has written a book on deconstruction called, I’ve Got Questions, and reading it felt like collecting little pieces of home over a cup of coffee with a friend who understood right where I had been. Erin, like so many of us grew up in a faith where certainty felt like a major goal and questions were not necessarily welcomed. For any of us who can relate to that (hand raised high over here!), this book (and conversation) has … Continue reading Episode 285 – Erin Hicks Moon]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 285 - Erin Hicks Moon]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The wise and hilarious Erin Hicks Moon joined me for this episode and I am thrilled to share it with you! She has written a book on deconstruction called, I’ve Got Questions, and reading it felt like collecting little pieces of home over a cup of coffee with a friend who understood right where I had been. Erin, like so many of us grew up in a faith where certainty felt like a major goal and questions were not necessarily welcomed. For any of us who can relate to that (hand raised high over here!), this book (and conversation) has … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-285-erin-hicks-moon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 285 – Erin Hicks Moon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The wise and hilarious Erin Hicks Moon joined me for this episode and I am thrilled to share it with you! She has written a book on deconstruction called, I’ve Got Questions, and reading it felt like collecting little pieces of home over a cup of coffee with a friend who understood right where I had been. Erin, like so many of us grew up in a faith where certainty felt like a major goal and questions were not necessarily welcomed. For any of us who can relate to that (hand raised high over here!), this book (and conversation) has … Continue reading Episode 285 – Erin Hicks Moon]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 284 - Malcolm Foley]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-284-malcolm-foley</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you’re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, this conversation is for you. Malcolm and I explore how greed is related to chattel slavery, lynching, exploitation, and our current capitalistic system in America and how Christians can respond to its realities today. Oh, and an update – Delilah the beagle did eventually get … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-284-malcolm-foley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 284 – Malcolm Foley</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you’re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, this conversation is for you. Malcolm and I explore how greed is related to chattel slavery, lynching, exploitation, and our current capitalistic system in America and how Christians can respond to its realities today. Oh, and an update – Delilah the beagle did eventually get … Continue reading Episode 284 – Malcolm Foley]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 284 - Malcolm Foley]]>
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                    <![CDATA[That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you’re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, this conversation is for you. Malcolm and I explore how greed is related to chattel slavery, lynching, exploitation, and our current capitalistic system in America and how Christians can respond to its realities today. Oh, and an update – Delilah the beagle did eventually get … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-284-malcolm-foley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 284 – Malcolm Foley</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you’re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, this conversation is for you. Malcolm and I explore how greed is related to chattel slavery, lynching, exploitation, and our current capitalistic system in America and how Christians can respond to its realities today. Oh, and an update – Delilah the beagle did eventually get … Continue reading Episode 284 – Malcolm Foley]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:12:15</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 283 - Liz Charlotte Grant]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2025 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-283-liz-charlotte-grant</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[What a joy to host Liz Charlotte Grant (and read her book)! One of the things I have enjoyed so much in studying the bible is taking in different interpretive perspectives. Liz is a creative writer and someone who became curious about biblical interpretations from theologians she had not read or studied early in her faith journey. This book brings in Jewish and liberation interpretations, asks beautiful questions, provides imaginative and gorgeous metaphors, and invites us to see familiar texts in unfamiliar ways (one of my favorite pastimes!). Mentioned in this episode: Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-283-liz-charlotte-grant/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 283 – Liz Charlotte Grant</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[What a joy to host Liz Charlotte Grant (and read her book)! One of the things I have enjoyed so much in studying the bible is taking in different interpretive perspectives. Liz is a creative writer and someone who became curious about biblical interpretations from theologians she had not read or studied early in her faith journey. This book brings in Jewish and liberation interpretations, asks beautiful questions, provides imaginative and gorgeous metaphors, and invites us to see familiar texts in unfamiliar ways (one of my favorite pastimes!). Mentioned in this episode: Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis … Continue reading Episode 283 – Liz Charlotte Grant]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 283 - Liz Charlotte Grant]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What a joy to host Liz Charlotte Grant (and read her book)! One of the things I have enjoyed so much in studying the bible is taking in different interpretive perspectives. Liz is a creative writer and someone who became curious about biblical interpretations from theologians she had not read or studied early in her faith journey. This book brings in Jewish and liberation interpretations, asks beautiful questions, provides imaginative and gorgeous metaphors, and invites us to see familiar texts in unfamiliar ways (one of my favorite pastimes!). Mentioned in this episode: Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-283-liz-charlotte-grant/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 283 – Liz Charlotte Grant</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What a joy to host Liz Charlotte Grant (and read her book)! One of the things I have enjoyed so much in studying the bible is taking in different interpretive perspectives. Liz is a creative writer and someone who became curious about biblical interpretations from theologians she had not read or studied early in her faith journey. This book brings in Jewish and liberation interpretations, asks beautiful questions, provides imaginative and gorgeous metaphors, and invites us to see familiar texts in unfamiliar ways (one of my favorite pastimes!). Mentioned in this episode: Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis … Continue reading Episode 283 – Liz Charlotte Grant]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:03:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 282 - Andrew Rillera]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2025 17:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1934961</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-282-andrew-rillera</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Phew! Hold on to your hats! We’ve got an incredible discussion for you today with Dr. Andrew Rillera, New Testament scholar. His newest book, Lamb of the Free, tackles not only the sacrifice of Jesus, but does so as part of the whole sacrificial system we see in the Bible. We start by naming a very common understanding of Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection, penal substitutionary atonement theory, talk about how that has been un-helpful (and in some ways harmful), and then explore other biblical ways of understanding what Jesus did these in acts. By no means do we hit … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-282-andrew-rillera/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 282 – Andrew Rillera</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Phew! Hold on to your hats! We’ve got an incredible discussion for you today with Dr. Andrew Rillera, New Testament scholar. His newest book, Lamb of the Free, tackles not only the sacrifice of Jesus, but does so as part of the whole sacrificial system we see in the Bible. We start by naming a very common understanding of Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection, penal substitutionary atonement theory, talk about how that has been un-helpful (and in some ways harmful), and then explore other biblical ways of understanding what Jesus did these in acts. By no means do we hit … Continue reading Episode 282 – Andrew Rillera]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 282 - Andrew Rillera]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Phew! Hold on to your hats! We’ve got an incredible discussion for you today with Dr. Andrew Rillera, New Testament scholar. His newest book, Lamb of the Free, tackles not only the sacrifice of Jesus, but does so as part of the whole sacrificial system we see in the Bible. We start by naming a very common understanding of Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection, penal substitutionary atonement theory, talk about how that has been un-helpful (and in some ways harmful), and then explore other biblical ways of understanding what Jesus did these in acts. By no means do we hit … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-282-andrew-rillera/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 282 – Andrew Rillera</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/1934961/c1e-z28kamkq3dan2ndg-pkg97om1ad01-mzgjlw.mp3" length="130202743"
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                    <![CDATA[Phew! Hold on to your hats! We’ve got an incredible discussion for you today with Dr. Andrew Rillera, New Testament scholar. His newest book, Lamb of the Free, tackles not only the sacrifice of Jesus, but does so as part of the whole sacrificial system we see in the Bible. We start by naming a very common understanding of Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection, penal substitutionary atonement theory, talk about how that has been un-helpful (and in some ways harmful), and then explore other biblical ways of understanding what Jesus did these in acts. By no means do we hit … Continue reading Episode 282 – Andrew Rillera]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:30:26</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 281 - Jennifer McNutt]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1931427</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-281-jennifer-mcnutt</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[When Jennifer McNutt’s newest book arrived in the mail, I instantly started flipping through it (and immediately texted a friend)! What I held in my hands, was a beautiful, thoughtful, and thorough look at the person and character of Mary Magdelene and as a female theologian, it felt like a real gift. The Mary We Forgot delves into history and our current times and, as I reflect even further, communicates to us as much about ourselves and who we are and have been discipled to be as it does who Mary, that faithful disciple of Jesus, was in her first … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-281-jennifer-mcnutt/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 281 – Jennifer McNutt</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[When Jennifer McNutt’s newest book arrived in the mail, I instantly started flipping through it (and immediately texted a friend)! What I held in my hands, was a beautiful, thoughtful, and thorough look at the person and character of Mary Magdelene and as a female theologian, it felt like a real gift. The Mary We Forgot delves into history and our current times and, as I reflect even further, communicates to us as much about ourselves and who we are and have been discipled to be as it does who Mary, that faithful disciple of Jesus, was in her first … Continue reading Episode 281 – Jennifer McNutt]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 281 - Jennifer McNutt]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When Jennifer McNutt’s newest book arrived in the mail, I instantly started flipping through it (and immediately texted a friend)! What I held in my hands, was a beautiful, thoughtful, and thorough look at the person and character of Mary Magdelene and as a female theologian, it felt like a real gift. The Mary We Forgot delves into history and our current times and, as I reflect even further, communicates to us as much about ourselves and who we are and have been discipled to be as it does who Mary, that faithful disciple of Jesus, was in her first … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-281-jennifer-mcnutt/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 281 – Jennifer McNutt</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When Jennifer McNutt’s newest book arrived in the mail, I instantly started flipping through it (and immediately texted a friend)! What I held in my hands, was a beautiful, thoughtful, and thorough look at the person and character of Mary Magdelene and as a female theologian, it felt like a real gift. The Mary We Forgot delves into history and our current times and, as I reflect even further, communicates to us as much about ourselves and who we are and have been discipled to be as it does who Mary, that faithful disciple of Jesus, was in her first … Continue reading Episode 281 – Jennifer McNutt]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:50:50</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 279 - Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2024 01:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1921418</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-279-pricelis-perreaux-dominguez-1</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This was a wonderful conversation on church, health, justice, and community with Pricelis! Her unique perspective as someone with a background in social work and someone who has worked on staff in church settings brings something insightful and beautiful to this larger discussion around church life. For more on this topic, be sure to check out Pricelis’s book, Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe. Mentioned in this episode: Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe by Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez You … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-279-pricelis-perreaux-dominguez/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 279 – Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This was a wonderful conversation on church, health, justice, and community with Pricelis! Her unique perspective as someone with a background in social work and someone who has worked on staff in church settings brings something insightful and beautiful to this larger discussion around church life. For more on this topic, be sure to check out Pricelis’s book, Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe. Mentioned in this episode: Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe by Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez You … Continue reading Episode 279 – Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 279 - Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This was a wonderful conversation on church, health, justice, and community with Pricelis! Her unique perspective as someone with a background in social work and someone who has worked on staff in church settings brings something insightful and beautiful to this larger discussion around church life. For more on this topic, be sure to check out Pricelis’s book, Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe. Mentioned in this episode: Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe by Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez You … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-279-pricelis-perreaux-dominguez/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 279 – Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This was a wonderful conversation on church, health, justice, and community with Pricelis! Her unique perspective as someone with a background in social work and someone who has worked on staff in church settings brings something insightful and beautiful to this larger discussion around church life. For more on this topic, be sure to check out Pricelis’s book, Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe. Mentioned in this episode: Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe by Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez You … Continue reading Episode 279 – Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:40</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 278 - Lore Ferguson Wilbert]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with Lore was recorded barely a week after the presidential election. Truthfully, I was still pretty raw coming into our talk and that morning was a particularly rough one in my grieving process. What Lore’s beautiful book and our interview reminded me of in the midst of my feelings of sadness, disbelief, and betrayal, is that each of us are profoundly loved and that we are at our best when we act toward each other out of that belovedness. The subjects she covers are difficult ones, but she does so with grace, wisdom, and vulnerability. I hope you’ll … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-278-lore-ferguson-wilbert/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 278 – Lore Ferguson Wilbert</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Lore was recorded barely a week after the presidential election. Truthfully, I was still pretty raw coming into our talk and that morning was a particularly rough one in my grieving process. What Lore’s beautiful book and our interview reminded me of in the midst of my feelings of sadness, disbelief, and betrayal, is that each of us are profoundly loved and that we are at our best when we act toward each other out of that belovedness. The subjects she covers are difficult ones, but she does so with grace, wisdom, and vulnerability. I hope you’ll … Continue reading Episode 278 – Lore Ferguson Wilbert]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 278 - Lore Ferguson Wilbert]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Lore was recorded barely a week after the presidential election. Truthfully, I was still pretty raw coming into our talk and that morning was a particularly rough one in my grieving process. What Lore’s beautiful book and our interview reminded me of in the midst of my feelings of sadness, disbelief, and betrayal, is that each of us are profoundly loved and that we are at our best when we act toward each other out of that belovedness. The subjects she covers are difficult ones, but she does so with grace, wisdom, and vulnerability. I hope you’ll … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-278-lore-ferguson-wilbert/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 278 – Lore Ferguson Wilbert</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Lore was recorded barely a week after the presidential election. Truthfully, I was still pretty raw coming into our talk and that morning was a particularly rough one in my grieving process. What Lore’s beautiful book and our interview reminded me of in the midst of my feelings of sadness, disbelief, and betrayal, is that each of us are profoundly loved and that we are at our best when we act toward each other out of that belovedness. The subjects she covers are difficult ones, but she does so with grace, wisdom, and vulnerability. I hope you’ll … Continue reading Episode 278 – Lore Ferguson Wilbert]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:42</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 277 - Chris Blumhofer]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2024 19:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-277-chris-blumhofer</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Dr. Chris Blumhofer is a professor of New Testament at Fuller Theological Seminary. From personal experience, I can tell you his classes are wonderful! They are insightful, thought-provoking, and challenging. One of the mindsets, and now habits, I have taken away from my instructional time with Chris is permission to wrestle with our sacred texts and methods on seeking out ways to see the texts from differing perspectives. The basis of our conversation in this recording is an article he wrote for Fuller Studio on reading the bible critically, but still in faith. Even with some of the topics covered … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-277-chris-blumhofer/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 277 – Chris Blumhofer</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Chris Blumhofer is a professor of New Testament at Fuller Theological Seminary. From personal experience, I can tell you his classes are wonderful! They are insightful, thought-provoking, and challenging. One of the mindsets, and now habits, I have taken away from my instructional time with Chris is permission to wrestle with our sacred texts and methods on seeking out ways to see the texts from differing perspectives. The basis of our conversation in this recording is an article he wrote for Fuller Studio on reading the bible critically, but still in faith. Even with some of the topics covered … Continue reading Episode 277 – Chris Blumhofer]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 277 - Chris Blumhofer]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Chris Blumhofer is a professor of New Testament at Fuller Theological Seminary. From personal experience, I can tell you his classes are wonderful! They are insightful, thought-provoking, and challenging. One of the mindsets, and now habits, I have taken away from my instructional time with Chris is permission to wrestle with our sacred texts and methods on seeking out ways to see the texts from differing perspectives. The basis of our conversation in this recording is an article he wrote for Fuller Studio on reading the bible critically, but still in faith. Even with some of the topics covered … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-277-chris-blumhofer/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 277 – Chris Blumhofer</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Chris Blumhofer is a professor of New Testament at Fuller Theological Seminary. From personal experience, I can tell you his classes are wonderful! They are insightful, thought-provoking, and challenging. One of the mindsets, and now habits, I have taken away from my instructional time with Chris is permission to wrestle with our sacred texts and methods on seeking out ways to see the texts from differing perspectives. The basis of our conversation in this recording is an article he wrote for Fuller Studio on reading the bible critically, but still in faith. Even with some of the topics covered … Continue reading Episode 277 – Chris Blumhofer]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:51:49</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 276 - Kaitlyn Schiess (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 02:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1907310</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-276-kaitlyn-schiess-re-release</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Producer’s choice! Here’s a note from my producer (and husband) Seth Busetti about this week’s re-release. Enjoy! I thought this episode with Kaitlyn Schiess might be helpful to our listeners. When this was first recorded the political landscape was still very uncertain and Kaitlyn’s wisdom regarding how Christians can faithfully engage in civil discourse and politics was well-received. Post-election I find myself needing to recalibrate knowing that the political scenarios I argued for and wanted to happen didn’t come to pass. Many of our listeners are in the same position. I hope this conversation with Kaitlyn provides some hope, optimism, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-276-kaitlyn-schiess-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 276 – Kaitlyn Schiess (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s choice! Here’s a note from my producer (and husband) Seth Busetti about this week’s re-release. Enjoy! I thought this episode with Kaitlyn Schiess might be helpful to our listeners. When this was first recorded the political landscape was still very uncertain and Kaitlyn’s wisdom regarding how Christians can faithfully engage in civil discourse and politics was well-received. Post-election I find myself needing to recalibrate knowing that the political scenarios I argued for and wanted to happen didn’t come to pass. Many of our listeners are in the same position. I hope this conversation with Kaitlyn provides some hope, optimism, … Continue reading Episode 276 – Kaitlyn Schiess (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 276 - Kaitlyn Schiess (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s choice! Here’s a note from my producer (and husband) Seth Busetti about this week’s re-release. Enjoy! I thought this episode with Kaitlyn Schiess might be helpful to our listeners. When this was first recorded the political landscape was still very uncertain and Kaitlyn’s wisdom regarding how Christians can faithfully engage in civil discourse and politics was well-received. Post-election I find myself needing to recalibrate knowing that the political scenarios I argued for and wanted to happen didn’t come to pass. Many of our listeners are in the same position. I hope this conversation with Kaitlyn provides some hope, optimism, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-276-kaitlyn-schiess-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 276 – Kaitlyn Schiess (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Producer’s choice! Here’s a note from my producer (and husband) Seth Busetti about this week’s re-release. Enjoy! I thought this episode with Kaitlyn Schiess might be helpful to our listeners. When this was first recorded the political landscape was still very uncertain and Kaitlyn’s wisdom regarding how Christians can faithfully engage in civil discourse and politics was well-received. Post-election I find myself needing to recalibrate knowing that the political scenarios I argued for and wanted to happen didn’t come to pass. Many of our listeners are in the same position. I hope this conversation with Kaitlyn provides some hope, optimism, … Continue reading Episode 276 – Kaitlyn Schiess (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:53</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 275 - Tiffany Bluhm]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1895284</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-275-tiffany-bluhm</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This new devotional by Tiffany Bluhm (along with some other fantastic contributors!) is one I see myself coming back to again and again. In The Women We’ve Been Waiting For, Tiffany and several women authors, bring us the stories of biblical, historical, and contemporary female figures who have resisted the status quo for the sake of themselves, their communities, and the greater good. Many of the women featured in the book did not receive the accolades they deserved when they acted in solidarity or continued their work in the midst of ungrateful or hostile authorities, but they persevered. Always, but … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-275-tiffany-bluhm/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 275 – Tiffany Bluhm</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This new devotional by Tiffany Bluhm (along with some other fantastic contributors!) is one I see myself coming back to again and again. In The Women We’ve Been Waiting For, Tiffany and several women authors, bring us the stories of biblical, historical, and contemporary female figures who have resisted the status quo for the sake of themselves, their communities, and the greater good. Many of the women featured in the book did not receive the accolades they deserved when they acted in solidarity or continued their work in the midst of ungrateful or hostile authorities, but they persevered. Always, but … Continue reading Episode 275 – Tiffany Bluhm]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 275 - Tiffany Bluhm]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This new devotional by Tiffany Bluhm (along with some other fantastic contributors!) is one I see myself coming back to again and again. In The Women We’ve Been Waiting For, Tiffany and several women authors, bring us the stories of biblical, historical, and contemporary female figures who have resisted the status quo for the sake of themselves, their communities, and the greater good. Many of the women featured in the book did not receive the accolades they deserved when they acted in solidarity or continued their work in the midst of ungrateful or hostile authorities, but they persevered. Always, but … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-275-tiffany-bluhm/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 275 – Tiffany Bluhm</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This new devotional by Tiffany Bluhm (along with some other fantastic contributors!) is one I see myself coming back to again and again. In The Women We’ve Been Waiting For, Tiffany and several women authors, bring us the stories of biblical, historical, and contemporary female figures who have resisted the status quo for the sake of themselves, their communities, and the greater good. Many of the women featured in the book did not receive the accolades they deserved when they acted in solidarity or continued their work in the midst of ungrateful or hostile authorities, but they persevered. Always, but … Continue reading Episode 275 – Tiffany Bluhm]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:48:20</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 274 - Robert G. Callahan, II]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 01:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-274-robert-g-callahan-ii</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I know I should give some sort of explanation here. I should say all the things this episode is about, but, I’m tired. This has been a week, and instead of explaining all of the things, I am just going to say – go and listen to this conversation with Robert! He is sharing his story – one that so many of us have lived through in our own ways and in our own contexts – and I am grateful. This story is about frustration with the white church in America, and gaining the courage to say something about it. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-274-robert-g-callahan-ii/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 274 – Robert G. Callahan, II</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[I know I should give some sort of explanation here. I should say all the things this episode is about, but, I’m tired. This has been a week, and instead of explaining all of the things, I am just going to say – go and listen to this conversation with Robert! He is sharing his story – one that so many of us have lived through in our own ways and in our own contexts – and I am grateful. This story is about frustration with the white church in America, and gaining the courage to say something about it. … Continue reading Episode 274 – Robert G. Callahan, II]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 274 - Robert G. Callahan, II]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I know I should give some sort of explanation here. I should say all the things this episode is about, but, I’m tired. This has been a week, and instead of explaining all of the things, I am just going to say – go and listen to this conversation with Robert! He is sharing his story – one that so many of us have lived through in our own ways and in our own contexts – and I am grateful. This story is about frustration with the white church in America, and gaining the courage to say something about it. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-274-robert-g-callahan-ii/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 274 – Robert G. Callahan, II</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I know I should give some sort of explanation here. I should say all the things this episode is about, but, I’m tired. This has been a week, and instead of explaining all of the things, I am just going to say – go and listen to this conversation with Robert! He is sharing his story – one that so many of us have lived through in our own ways and in our own contexts – and I am grateful. This story is about frustration with the white church in America, and gaining the courage to say something about it. … Continue reading Episode 274 – Robert G. Callahan, II]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:20:51</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 273 - Amy-Jill Levine]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2024 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1873260</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-273-amy-jill-levine</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how we navigate this conversation) is to help us see and understand the historical Jesus and his context more deeply and help us gain understanding for how those interactions and teachings might inform how we interact with Jesus and one another in our current contexts. Mentioned … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-273-amy-jill-levine/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 273 – Amy-Jill Levine</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how we navigate this conversation) is to help us see and understand the historical Jesus and his context more deeply and help us gain understanding for how those interactions and teachings might inform how we interact with Jesus and one another in our current contexts. Mentioned … Continue reading Episode 273 – Amy-Jill Levine]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 273 - Amy-Jill Levine]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how we navigate this conversation) is to help us see and understand the historical Jesus and his context more deeply and help us gain understanding for how those interactions and teachings might inform how we interact with Jesus and one another in our current contexts. Mentioned … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-273-amy-jill-levine/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 273 – Amy-Jill Levine</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/1873260/c1e-6om3a26p1puz2zj9-1pdxpo17f9g1-9z1xk1.mp3" length="91926249"
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how we navigate this conversation) is to help us see and understand the historical Jesus and his context more deeply and help us gain understanding for how those interactions and teachings might inform how we interact with Jesus and one another in our current contexts. Mentioned … Continue reading Episode 273 – Amy-Jill Levine]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:03:51</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 272 - Collin Cornell]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 00:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1868321</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-272-collin-cornell</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[My friend, Dr. Collin Cornell is back on the podcast! The topic we discuss is one I have always wrestled with, so it was good to pick an Old Testament scholar’s brain on it – God’s aggression. You’ll see below that Collin has recently published on the topic, but we didn’t stick to the text at all! Our conversation (for which I prepped no notes, lol!) consists mostly of me asking questions I’ve had as a theology student and Collin talking through some of those questions and responding in ways he has found to be helpful for his students. My … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-272-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 272 – Collin Cornell</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[My friend, Dr. Collin Cornell is back on the podcast! The topic we discuss is one I have always wrestled with, so it was good to pick an Old Testament scholar’s brain on it – God’s aggression. You’ll see below that Collin has recently published on the topic, but we didn’t stick to the text at all! Our conversation (for which I prepped no notes, lol!) consists mostly of me asking questions I’ve had as a theology student and Collin talking through some of those questions and responding in ways he has found to be helpful for his students. My … Continue reading Episode 272 – Collin Cornell]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 272 - Collin Cornell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My friend, Dr. Collin Cornell is back on the podcast! The topic we discuss is one I have always wrestled with, so it was good to pick an Old Testament scholar’s brain on it – God’s aggression. You’ll see below that Collin has recently published on the topic, but we didn’t stick to the text at all! Our conversation (for which I prepped no notes, lol!) consists mostly of me asking questions I’ve had as a theology student and Collin talking through some of those questions and responding in ways he has found to be helpful for his students. My … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-272-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 272 – Collin Cornell</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My friend, Dr. Collin Cornell is back on the podcast! The topic we discuss is one I have always wrestled with, so it was good to pick an Old Testament scholar’s brain on it – God’s aggression. You’ll see below that Collin has recently published on the topic, but we didn’t stick to the text at all! Our conversation (for which I prepped no notes, lol!) consists mostly of me asking questions I’ve had as a theology student and Collin talking through some of those questions and responding in ways he has found to be helpful for his students. My … Continue reading Episode 272 – Collin Cornell]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:12:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 271 - David Swanson]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more connected to each other, and our places, might look in our own contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson Dakota: A Spiritual Geography by Kathleen Norris dwswanson.com You might also … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-271-david-swanson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 271 – David Swanson</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more connected to each other, and our places, might look in our own contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson Dakota: A Spiritual Geography by Kathleen Norris dwswanson.com You might also … Continue reading Episode 271 – David Swanson]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 271 - David Swanson]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more connected to each other, and our places, might look in our own contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson Dakota: A Spiritual Geography by Kathleen Norris dwswanson.com You might also … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-271-david-swanson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 271 – David Swanson</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more connected to each other, and our places, might look in our own contexts. Mentioned in this episode: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson Dakota: A Spiritual Geography by Kathleen Norris dwswanson.com You might also … Continue reading Episode 271 – David Swanson]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:05:47</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 270 - Terry Wildman (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-270-terry-wildman-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[In honor of Indigenous People’s Day, we’re re-playing my conversation with Terry Wildman! Terry Wildman is the lead translator and project manager of the First Nations Version of the New Testament. In this conversation, Terry talks about the intersection of being Christian and Native and what that has meant for him as he has explored the two, personally and in community. Cultural context in worship has received pushback over the centuries from members of the dominant culture all over the globe, but in Jesus’ own words, we hear Creator Sets Free (Jesus) encouraging followers to worship him where they are with their … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-270-terry-wildman-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 270 – Terry Wildman (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[In honor of Indigenous People’s Day, we’re re-playing my conversation with Terry Wildman! Terry Wildman is the lead translator and project manager of the First Nations Version of the New Testament. In this conversation, Terry talks about the intersection of being Christian and Native and what that has meant for him as he has explored the two, personally and in community. Cultural context in worship has received pushback over the centuries from members of the dominant culture all over the globe, but in Jesus’ own words, we hear Creator Sets Free (Jesus) encouraging followers to worship him where they are with their … Continue reading Episode 270 – Terry Wildman (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 270 - Terry Wildman (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In honor of Indigenous People’s Day, we’re re-playing my conversation with Terry Wildman! Terry Wildman is the lead translator and project manager of the First Nations Version of the New Testament. In this conversation, Terry talks about the intersection of being Christian and Native and what that has meant for him as he has explored the two, personally and in community. Cultural context in worship has received pushback over the centuries from members of the dominant culture all over the globe, but in Jesus’ own words, we hear Creator Sets Free (Jesus) encouraging followers to worship him where they are with their … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-270-terry-wildman-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 270 – Terry Wildman (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In honor of Indigenous People’s Day, we’re re-playing my conversation with Terry Wildman! Terry Wildman is the lead translator and project manager of the First Nations Version of the New Testament. In this conversation, Terry talks about the intersection of being Christian and Native and what that has meant for him as he has explored the two, personally and in community. Cultural context in worship has received pushback over the centuries from members of the dominant culture all over the globe, but in Jesus’ own words, we hear Creator Sets Free (Jesus) encouraging followers to worship him where they are with their … Continue reading Episode 270 – Terry Wildman (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:09:47</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 269 - Elesha Coffman]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2024 22:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1852505</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-269-elesha-coffman</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Confession time – I’m not a big history buff. As critical as I know it is, it’s never really been my thing, but…when I came across this title by Elesha Coffman, I knew I had to get it in my hands and read it! And I’m so glad I did! Turning Points in American Church History takes around a dozen or so events in American history (earlier if we count the Spanish Armada, where she started) and gives us context and connects the events to the larger story of church in the U.S. This conversation took us to issues of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-269-elesha-coffman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 269 – Elesha Coffman</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Confession time – I’m not a big history buff. As critical as I know it is, it’s never really been my thing, but…when I came across this title by Elesha Coffman, I knew I had to get it in my hands and read it! And I’m so glad I did! Turning Points in American Church History takes around a dozen or so events in American history (earlier if we count the Spanish Armada, where she started) and gives us context and connects the events to the larger story of church in the U.S. This conversation took us to issues of … Continue reading Episode 269 – Elesha Coffman]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 269 - Elesha Coffman]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Confession time – I’m not a big history buff. As critical as I know it is, it’s never really been my thing, but…when I came across this title by Elesha Coffman, I knew I had to get it in my hands and read it! And I’m so glad I did! Turning Points in American Church History takes around a dozen or so events in American history (earlier if we count the Spanish Armada, where she started) and gives us context and connects the events to the larger story of church in the U.S. This conversation took us to issues of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-269-elesha-coffman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 269 – Elesha Coffman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Confession time – I’m not a big history buff. As critical as I know it is, it’s never really been my thing, but…when I came across this title by Elesha Coffman, I knew I had to get it in my hands and read it! And I’m so glad I did! Turning Points in American Church History takes around a dozen or so events in American history (earlier if we count the Spanish Armada, where she started) and gives us context and connects the events to the larger story of church in the U.S. This conversation took us to issues of … Continue reading Episode 269 – Elesha Coffman]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:48</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 268 - Erin Weber-Johnson]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1847132</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-268-erin-weber-johnson</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[A few years ago, offline, a guest mentioned a term that represented a concept that put a metaphorical pebble in my shoe – “philanthropic redlining.” I knew a bit of the history of redlining from real estate practices in the U.S., and of course I also knew, generally, what philanthropy was, but to hear them together took me aback. If this is your first time hearing the term, no sweat! This interview with Erin Weber-Johnson is a great place to start (as well as my interview with Shannon Polk). We explore what philanthropic redlining is, why it’s problematic, and what … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-268-erin-weber-johnson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 268 – Erin Weber-Johnson</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[A few years ago, offline, a guest mentioned a term that represented a concept that put a metaphorical pebble in my shoe – “philanthropic redlining.” I knew a bit of the history of redlining from real estate practices in the U.S., and of course I also knew, generally, what philanthropy was, but to hear them together took me aback. If this is your first time hearing the term, no sweat! This interview with Erin Weber-Johnson is a great place to start (as well as my interview with Shannon Polk). We explore what philanthropic redlining is, why it’s problematic, and what … Continue reading Episode 268 – Erin Weber-Johnson]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 268 - Erin Weber-Johnson]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A few years ago, offline, a guest mentioned a term that represented a concept that put a metaphorical pebble in my shoe – “philanthropic redlining.” I knew a bit of the history of redlining from real estate practices in the U.S., and of course I also knew, generally, what philanthropy was, but to hear them together took me aback. If this is your first time hearing the term, no sweat! This interview with Erin Weber-Johnson is a great place to start (as well as my interview with Shannon Polk). We explore what philanthropic redlining is, why it’s problematic, and what … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-268-erin-weber-johnson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 268 – Erin Weber-Johnson</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A few years ago, offline, a guest mentioned a term that represented a concept that put a metaphorical pebble in my shoe – “philanthropic redlining.” I knew a bit of the history of redlining from real estate practices in the U.S., and of course I also knew, generally, what philanthropy was, but to hear them together took me aback. If this is your first time hearing the term, no sweat! This interview with Erin Weber-Johnson is a great place to start (as well as my interview with Shannon Polk). We explore what philanthropic redlining is, why it’s problematic, and what … Continue reading Episode 268 – Erin Weber-Johnson]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:50:40</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                        url="https://media-assets.castos.com/transcripts/1847132/transcript.vtt"
                        type="text/vtt"  language="en-US"                      />
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 267 - Amy Dixon & Rob Dixon]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 12:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1840635</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-267-amy-dixon-amp-rob-dixon</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This conversation is (checks notes) the first where I talked with a husband and wife together, in this case, co-authors! Amy Dixon and Rob Dixon joined me to celebrate the release of their illustrated children’s book, Penny Preaches, which chronicles a fictional little girl (representative of so many women who feel called to preaching ministry, myself included!) who senses something within her drawn to the pulpit, is second guessed by her (mostly male) peers, and then sees that very thing modeled in a pastor at a church where her family intentionally visits. Neither Rob nor Amy are strangers to this … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-267-amy-dixon-rob-dixon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 267 – Amy Dixon &amp; Rob Dixon</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This conversation is (checks notes) the first where I talked with a husband and wife together, in this case, co-authors! Amy Dixon and Rob Dixon joined me to celebrate the release of their illustrated children’s book, Penny Preaches, which chronicles a fictional little girl (representative of so many women who feel called to preaching ministry, myself included!) who senses something within her drawn to the pulpit, is second guessed by her (mostly male) peers, and then sees that very thing modeled in a pastor at a church where her family intentionally visits. Neither Rob nor Amy are strangers to this … Continue reading Episode 267 – Amy Dixon & Rob Dixon]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 267 - Amy Dixon & Rob Dixon]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation is (checks notes) the first where I talked with a husband and wife together, in this case, co-authors! Amy Dixon and Rob Dixon joined me to celebrate the release of their illustrated children’s book, Penny Preaches, which chronicles a fictional little girl (representative of so many women who feel called to preaching ministry, myself included!) who senses something within her drawn to the pulpit, is second guessed by her (mostly male) peers, and then sees that very thing modeled in a pastor at a church where her family intentionally visits. Neither Rob nor Amy are strangers to this … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-267-amy-dixon-rob-dixon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 267 – Amy Dixon &amp; Rob Dixon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation is (checks notes) the first where I talked with a husband and wife together, in this case, co-authors! Amy Dixon and Rob Dixon joined me to celebrate the release of their illustrated children’s book, Penny Preaches, which chronicles a fictional little girl (representative of so many women who feel called to preaching ministry, myself included!) who senses something within her drawn to the pulpit, is second guessed by her (mostly male) peers, and then sees that very thing modeled in a pastor at a church where her family intentionally visits. Neither Rob nor Amy are strangers to this … Continue reading Episode 267 – Amy Dixon & Rob Dixon]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:23</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                        url="https://media-assets.castos.com/transcripts/1840635/transcript.vtt"
                        type="text/vtt"  language="en-US"                      />
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 261 - Grace Ji-Sun Kim]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2024 00:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1835162</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-261-grace-ji-sun-kim</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This week I was joined by theologian Grace Ji-Sun Kim. Her newest book (she’s published so many!) is When God Became White. If you’re intrigued by the title already, you’re not alone. Grace writes, not only as a scholar and theologian, but also from her perspective as a Korean immigrant who grew up in Canada and now lives, teaches, and ministers in the United States. In this conversation, we explore how God has become racialized (and gendered), what this has done to our faith over the centuries, and how these concepts continue to affect how we live with one another … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-261-grace-ji-sun-kim/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 261 – Grace Ji-Sun Kim</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This week I was joined by theologian Grace Ji-Sun Kim. Her newest book (she’s published so many!) is When God Became White. If you’re intrigued by the title already, you’re not alone. Grace writes, not only as a scholar and theologian, but also from her perspective as a Korean immigrant who grew up in Canada and now lives, teaches, and ministers in the United States. In this conversation, we explore how God has become racialized (and gendered), what this has done to our faith over the centuries, and how these concepts continue to affect how we live with one another … Continue reading Episode 261 – Grace Ji-Sun Kim]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 261 - Grace Ji-Sun Kim]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This week I was joined by theologian Grace Ji-Sun Kim. Her newest book (she’s published so many!) is When God Became White. If you’re intrigued by the title already, you’re not alone. Grace writes, not only as a scholar and theologian, but also from her perspective as a Korean immigrant who grew up in Canada and now lives, teaches, and ministers in the United States. In this conversation, we explore how God has become racialized (and gendered), what this has done to our faith over the centuries, and how these concepts continue to affect how we live with one another … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-261-grace-ji-sun-kim/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 261 – Grace Ji-Sun Kim</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This week I was joined by theologian Grace Ji-Sun Kim. Her newest book (she’s published so many!) is When God Became White. If you’re intrigued by the title already, you’re not alone. Grace writes, not only as a scholar and theologian, but also from her perspective as a Korean immigrant who grew up in Canada and now lives, teaches, and ministers in the United States. In this conversation, we explore how God has become racialized (and gendered), what this has done to our faith over the centuries, and how these concepts continue to affect how we live with one another … Continue reading Episode 261 – Grace Ji-Sun Kim]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:28:49</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 265 - Jim Wallis]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 22:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to host Jim Wallis again on the podcast! (It’s a special bonus for me because the date of this release marks 5 YEARS THE PODCAST!) Jim and I first met in Washington D.C. at the inaugural Summer Academy at the Center on Faith &amp; Justice at Georgetown University, though his work and reputation were well known to me long before that. In our conversation for this episode, we discuss his most recent book, The False White Gospel concerning Christian nationalism, the Scriptures, and our democracy. Jim gives us new ways to look at familiar texts and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-265-jim-wallis/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 265 – Jim Wallis</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to host Jim Wallis again on the podcast! (It’s a special bonus for me because the date of this release marks 5 YEARS THE PODCAST!) Jim and I first met in Washington D.C. at the inaugural Summer Academy at the Center on Faith & Justice at Georgetown University, though his work and reputation were well known to me long before that. In our conversation for this episode, we discuss his most recent book, The False White Gospel concerning Christian nationalism, the Scriptures, and our democracy. Jim gives us new ways to look at familiar texts and … Continue reading Episode 265 – Jim Wallis]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 265 - Jim Wallis]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to host Jim Wallis again on the podcast! (It’s a special bonus for me because the date of this release marks 5 YEARS THE PODCAST!) Jim and I first met in Washington D.C. at the inaugural Summer Academy at the Center on Faith &amp; Justice at Georgetown University, though his work and reputation were well known to me long before that. In our conversation for this episode, we discuss his most recent book, The False White Gospel concerning Christian nationalism, the Scriptures, and our democracy. Jim gives us new ways to look at familiar texts and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-265-jim-wallis/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 265 – Jim Wallis</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to host Jim Wallis again on the podcast! (It’s a special bonus for me because the date of this release marks 5 YEARS THE PODCAST!) Jim and I first met in Washington D.C. at the inaugural Summer Academy at the Center on Faith & Justice at Georgetown University, though his work and reputation were well known to me long before that. In our conversation for this episode, we discuss his most recent book, The False White Gospel concerning Christian nationalism, the Scriptures, and our democracy. Jim gives us new ways to look at familiar texts and … Continue reading Episode 265 – Jim Wallis]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 264 - Andrew Krinks]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2024 12:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Andrew Krinks has been on the podcast before and both times, he has managed to take a topic I have thought about often and deeply and add depth and breadth that I hadn’t yet considered. (His wife, Lindsey did the same thing for me with this conversation on homelessness.) The first time, Andrew and I talked about the embodied spiritual realities on death row, which is definitely worth the listen. And this time, we turn our attention to his new book, White Property, Black Trespass, which explores the connections between race, religion, and incarceration. The threads he pulls together, connecting … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-264-andrew-krinks/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 264 – Andrew Krinks</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Andrew Krinks has been on the podcast before and both times, he has managed to take a topic I have thought about often and deeply and add depth and breadth that I hadn’t yet considered. (His wife, Lindsey did the same thing for me with this conversation on homelessness.) The first time, Andrew and I talked about the embodied spiritual realities on death row, which is definitely worth the listen. And this time, we turn our attention to his new book, White Property, Black Trespass, which explores the connections between race, religion, and incarceration. The threads he pulls together, connecting … Continue reading Episode 264 – Andrew Krinks]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 264 - Andrew Krinks]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Andrew Krinks has been on the podcast before and both times, he has managed to take a topic I have thought about often and deeply and add depth and breadth that I hadn’t yet considered. (His wife, Lindsey did the same thing for me with this conversation on homelessness.) The first time, Andrew and I talked about the embodied spiritual realities on death row, which is definitely worth the listen. And this time, we turn our attention to his new book, White Property, Black Trespass, which explores the connections between race, religion, and incarceration. The threads he pulls together, connecting … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-264-andrew-krinks/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 264 – Andrew Krinks</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Andrew Krinks has been on the podcast before and both times, he has managed to take a topic I have thought about often and deeply and add depth and breadth that I hadn’t yet considered. (His wife, Lindsey did the same thing for me with this conversation on homelessness.) The first time, Andrew and I talked about the embodied spiritual realities on death row, which is definitely worth the listen. And this time, we turn our attention to his new book, White Property, Black Trespass, which explores the connections between race, religion, and incarceration. The threads he pulls together, connecting … Continue reading Episode 264 – Andrew Krinks]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:16:53</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 263 - Sarah Stankorb]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This conversation is over a year in the making. When I first heard about this project last spring, I was intrigued and completely unprepared to read this book, much less do an interview. What Sarah Stankorb has done in Disobedient Women is extraordinary. For fans of Kristen Kobes Du Mez’s Jesus and John Wayne, you’ll understand what I mean when I say that work kept coming to mind over and over again as I read this book. What I have said of that work is that Du Mez pulled back the curtain on a culture, the culture that discipled me … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-263-sarah-stankorb/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 263 – Sarah Stankorb</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation is over a year in the making. When I first heard about this project last spring, I was intrigued and completely unprepared to read this book, much less do an interview. What Sarah Stankorb has done in Disobedient Women is extraordinary. For fans of Kristen Kobes Du Mez’s Jesus and John Wayne, you’ll understand what I mean when I say that work kept coming to mind over and over again as I read this book. What I have said of that work is that Du Mez pulled back the curtain on a culture, the culture that discipled me … Continue reading Episode 263 – Sarah Stankorb]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 263 - Sarah Stankorb]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation is over a year in the making. When I first heard about this project last spring, I was intrigued and completely unprepared to read this book, much less do an interview. What Sarah Stankorb has done in Disobedient Women is extraordinary. For fans of Kristen Kobes Du Mez’s Jesus and John Wayne, you’ll understand what I mean when I say that work kept coming to mind over and over again as I read this book. What I have said of that work is that Du Mez pulled back the curtain on a culture, the culture that discipled me … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-263-sarah-stankorb/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 263 – Sarah Stankorb</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation is over a year in the making. When I first heard about this project last spring, I was intrigued and completely unprepared to read this book, much less do an interview. What Sarah Stankorb has done in Disobedient Women is extraordinary. For fans of Kristen Kobes Du Mez’s Jesus and John Wayne, you’ll understand what I mean when I say that work kept coming to mind over and over again as I read this book. What I have said of that work is that Du Mez pulled back the curtain on a culture, the culture that discipled me … Continue reading Episode 263 – Sarah Stankorb]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:08:47</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 261 - Jasmine Bellamy]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 00:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Welcome back to the podcast, to my friend, Jasmine Bellamy! Jasmine has been up to a lot since the last time we chatted, including beginning a doctoral program at Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a business leader and joyful disrupter, as we’ll chat about, and she is concerned with how we can be more loving leaders at work and in the marketplace. In an article she recently wrote for the DePree Center, she explores the importance of rest in our lives, which is the focus of this episode. Jasmine is the founder of Love 101 Ministries, spiritual director, and host … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-261-jasmine-bellamy/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 261 – Jasmine Bellamy</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Welcome back to the podcast, to my friend, Jasmine Bellamy! Jasmine has been up to a lot since the last time we chatted, including beginning a doctoral program at Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a business leader and joyful disrupter, as we’ll chat about, and she is concerned with how we can be more loving leaders at work and in the marketplace. In an article she recently wrote for the DePree Center, she explores the importance of rest in our lives, which is the focus of this episode. Jasmine is the founder of Love 101 Ministries, spiritual director, and host … Continue reading Episode 261 – Jasmine Bellamy]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 261 - Jasmine Bellamy]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Welcome back to the podcast, to my friend, Jasmine Bellamy! Jasmine has been up to a lot since the last time we chatted, including beginning a doctoral program at Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a business leader and joyful disrupter, as we’ll chat about, and she is concerned with how we can be more loving leaders at work and in the marketplace. In an article she recently wrote for the DePree Center, she explores the importance of rest in our lives, which is the focus of this episode. Jasmine is the founder of Love 101 Ministries, spiritual director, and host … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-261-jasmine-bellamy/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 261 – Jasmine Bellamy</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Welcome back to the podcast, to my friend, Jasmine Bellamy! Jasmine has been up to a lot since the last time we chatted, including beginning a doctoral program at Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a business leader and joyful disrupter, as we’ll chat about, and she is concerned with how we can be more loving leaders at work and in the marketplace. In an article she recently wrote for the DePree Center, she explores the importance of rest in our lives, which is the focus of this episode. Jasmine is the founder of Love 101 Ministries, spiritual director, and host … Continue reading Episode 261 – Jasmine Bellamy]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:47</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 260 - Norman Wirzba (re-play!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 04 Aug 2024 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This is a vacay replay! Our fam was out on one last getaway of the summer, so we picked one of our favorites (also happens to be a fan favorite!) to replay this week. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do! It’s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba‘s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it’s easy to believe we are the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-260-norman-wirzba-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 260 – Norman Wirzba (re-play!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This is a vacay replay! Our fam was out on one last getaway of the summer, so we picked one of our favorites (also happens to be a fan favorite!) to replay this week. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do! It’s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba‘s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it’s easy to believe we are the … Continue reading Episode 260 – Norman Wirzba (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 260 - Norman Wirzba (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This is a vacay replay! Our fam was out on one last getaway of the summer, so we picked one of our favorites (also happens to be a fan favorite!) to replay this week. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do! It’s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba‘s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it’s easy to believe we are the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-260-norman-wirzba-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 260 – Norman Wirzba (re-play!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This is a vacay replay! Our fam was out on one last getaway of the summer, so we picked one of our favorites (also happens to be a fan favorite!) to replay this week. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do! It’s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba‘s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it’s easy to believe we are the … Continue reading Episode 260 – Norman Wirzba (re-play!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 259 - Dieula Previlon]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-259-dieula-previlon</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[As a therapist and pastor, working with and ministering to women from all over the globe for years, Dieula Previlon understands trauma and the effects it can have on women and their communities. She also understands how when women begin to heal from trauma, it has a huge impact on the people around them as well. In her new book, Does God See Me? she links the stories of women in the Bible who experienced trauma with those of contemporary women and offers companionship for those of us experiencing healing now. Dieula reminds that God does see us and God … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-259-dieula-previlon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 259 – Dieula Previlon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As a therapist and pastor, working with and ministering to women from all over the globe for years, Dieula Previlon understands trauma and the effects it can have on women and their communities. She also understands how when women begin to heal from trauma, it has a huge impact on the people around them as well. In her new book, Does God See Me? she links the stories of women in the Bible who experienced trauma with those of contemporary women and offers companionship for those of us experiencing healing now. Dieula reminds that God does see us and God … Continue reading Episode 259 – Dieula Previlon]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 259 - Dieula Previlon]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As a therapist and pastor, working with and ministering to women from all over the globe for years, Dieula Previlon understands trauma and the effects it can have on women and their communities. She also understands how when women begin to heal from trauma, it has a huge impact on the people around them as well. In her new book, Does God See Me? she links the stories of women in the Bible who experienced trauma with those of contemporary women and offers companionship for those of us experiencing healing now. Dieula reminds that God does see us and God … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-259-dieula-previlon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 259 – Dieula Previlon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As a therapist and pastor, working with and ministering to women from all over the globe for years, Dieula Previlon understands trauma and the effects it can have on women and their communities. She also understands how when women begin to heal from trauma, it has a huge impact on the people around them as well. In her new book, Does God See Me? she links the stories of women in the Bible who experienced trauma with those of contemporary women and offers companionship for those of us experiencing healing now. Dieula reminds that God does see us and God … Continue reading Episode 259 – Dieula Previlon]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:00:26</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 258 - Khristi Lauren Adams]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2024 17:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-258-khristi-lauren-adams</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[One of my absolute favorite things about studying in seminary has been the exposure to new and different theological perspectives! As members of the Body of Christ, we are truly all built in unique ways, having had different personal experiences that teach us about God, God’s world, and our place in it. Khristi Adams brings us one such valuable perspective in her book (and this conversation about) Womanish Theology. What Khristi offers to us here is a beautiful contribution to theology from the perspective of Black girls. We have so much to learn from each other’s experiences and traditions and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-258-khristi-lauren-adams/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 258 – Khristi Lauren Adams</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of my absolute favorite things about studying in seminary has been the exposure to new and different theological perspectives! As members of the Body of Christ, we are truly all built in unique ways, having had different personal experiences that teach us about God, God’s world, and our place in it. Khristi Adams brings us one such valuable perspective in her book (and this conversation about) Womanish Theology. What Khristi offers to us here is a beautiful contribution to theology from the perspective of Black girls. We have so much to learn from each other’s experiences and traditions and … Continue reading Episode 258 – Khristi Lauren Adams]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 258 - Khristi Lauren Adams]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of my absolute favorite things about studying in seminary has been the exposure to new and different theological perspectives! As members of the Body of Christ, we are truly all built in unique ways, having had different personal experiences that teach us about God, God’s world, and our place in it. Khristi Adams brings us one such valuable perspective in her book (and this conversation about) Womanish Theology. What Khristi offers to us here is a beautiful contribution to theology from the perspective of Black girls. We have so much to learn from each other’s experiences and traditions and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-258-khristi-lauren-adams/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 258 – Khristi Lauren Adams</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of my absolute favorite things about studying in seminary has been the exposure to new and different theological perspectives! As members of the Body of Christ, we are truly all built in unique ways, having had different personal experiences that teach us about God, God’s world, and our place in it. Khristi Adams brings us one such valuable perspective in her book (and this conversation about) Womanish Theology. What Khristi offers to us here is a beautiful contribution to theology from the perspective of Black girls. We have so much to learn from each other’s experiences and traditions and … Continue reading Episode 258 – Khristi Lauren Adams]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:21</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 257 - Michael Wear (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Producer’s Pick! As some of you may know, the Houston area was hit hard this past week by a hurricane. The category 1 storm, Beryl, wreaked havoc on the infrastructure here, leaving more than 2 million homes and places of business without power. We were among those affected, having lost power for almost 6 days (which is why we are re-airing one of our previous conversations, chosen by my amazing husband and producer, Seth Busetti!). As I type, there are still over 200,000 homes and businesses without electricity. Winds were strong causing damage, and trees fell, crashing onto power lines … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-257-michael-wear-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 257 – Michael Wear (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s Pick! As some of you may know, the Houston area was hit hard this past week by a hurricane. The category 1 storm, Beryl, wreaked havoc on the infrastructure here, leaving more than 2 million homes and places of business without power. We were among those affected, having lost power for almost 6 days (which is why we are re-airing one of our previous conversations, chosen by my amazing husband and producer, Seth Busetti!). As I type, there are still over 200,000 homes and businesses without electricity. Winds were strong causing damage, and trees fell, crashing onto power lines … Continue reading Episode 257 – Michael Wear (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 257 - Michael Wear (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s Pick! As some of you may know, the Houston area was hit hard this past week by a hurricane. The category 1 storm, Beryl, wreaked havoc on the infrastructure here, leaving more than 2 million homes and places of business without power. We were among those affected, having lost power for almost 6 days (which is why we are re-airing one of our previous conversations, chosen by my amazing husband and producer, Seth Busetti!). As I type, there are still over 200,000 homes and businesses without electricity. Winds were strong causing damage, and trees fell, crashing onto power lines … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-257-michael-wear-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 257 – Michael Wear (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Producer’s Pick! As some of you may know, the Houston area was hit hard this past week by a hurricane. The category 1 storm, Beryl, wreaked havoc on the infrastructure here, leaving more than 2 million homes and places of business without power. We were among those affected, having lost power for almost 6 days (which is why we are re-airing one of our previous conversations, chosen by my amazing husband and producer, Seth Busetti!). As I type, there are still over 200,000 homes and businesses without electricity. Winds were strong causing damage, and trees fell, crashing onto power lines … Continue reading Episode 257 – Michael Wear (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:05:13</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 256 - Mark Glanville]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2024 17:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This is the very first time in the history of That Makes Total Sense! where a guest has played live music as a part of the conversation and I am here for it! Dr. Mark Glanville, pastor, author, and scholar, is also a professional jazz pianist and he can’t help but see how an exploration of the practice and art of jazz can help us practice church life together. In his new book, Improvising Church, Mark asks questions of our current ecclesial practices and suggests some innovative ways of looking at our communities and living together in harmony. This is … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-256-mark-glanville/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 256 – Mark Glanville</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This is the very first time in the history of That Makes Total Sense! where a guest has played live music as a part of the conversation and I am here for it! Dr. Mark Glanville, pastor, author, and scholar, is also a professional jazz pianist and he can’t help but see how an exploration of the practice and art of jazz can help us practice church life together. In his new book, Improvising Church, Mark asks questions of our current ecclesial practices and suggests some innovative ways of looking at our communities and living together in harmony. This is … Continue reading Episode 256 – Mark Glanville]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 256 - Mark Glanville]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This is the very first time in the history of That Makes Total Sense! where a guest has played live music as a part of the conversation and I am here for it! Dr. Mark Glanville, pastor, author, and scholar, is also a professional jazz pianist and he can’t help but see how an exploration of the practice and art of jazz can help us practice church life together. In his new book, Improvising Church, Mark asks questions of our current ecclesial practices and suggests some innovative ways of looking at our communities and living together in harmony. This is … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-256-mark-glanville/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 256 – Mark Glanville</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This is the very first time in the history of That Makes Total Sense! where a guest has played live music as a part of the conversation and I am here for it! Dr. Mark Glanville, pastor, author, and scholar, is also a professional jazz pianist and he can’t help but see how an exploration of the practice and art of jazz can help us practice church life together. In his new book, Improvising Church, Mark asks questions of our current ecclesial practices and suggests some innovative ways of looking at our communities and living together in harmony. This is … Continue reading Episode 256 – Mark Glanville]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:13:29</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 255 - Jemar Tisby (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 13:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1777034</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-255-jemar-tisby-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[With the 4th of July coming up this week, I wanted to share this conversation with you again. It is good to celebrate our country and it is also good to critique it. In this episode, Jemar and I spoke with each other literally less than a week after the insurrection on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. We reflect on the events of that day and Jemar offers his perspectives as a historian. Thanks for listening and happy Independence Day! Jemar Tisby, the New York Times bestselling author of The Color of Compromise, is back on the podcast with an … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-255-jemar-tisby-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 255 – Jemar Tisby (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[With the 4th of July coming up this week, I wanted to share this conversation with you again. It is good to celebrate our country and it is also good to critique it. In this episode, Jemar and I spoke with each other literally less than a week after the insurrection on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. We reflect on the events of that day and Jemar offers his perspectives as a historian. Thanks for listening and happy Independence Day! Jemar Tisby, the New York Times bestselling author of The Color of Compromise, is back on the podcast with an … Continue reading Episode 255 – Jemar Tisby (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 255 - Jemar Tisby (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[With the 4th of July coming up this week, I wanted to share this conversation with you again. It is good to celebrate our country and it is also good to critique it. In this episode, Jemar and I spoke with each other literally less than a week after the insurrection on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. We reflect on the events of that day and Jemar offers his perspectives as a historian. Thanks for listening and happy Independence Day! Jemar Tisby, the New York Times bestselling author of The Color of Compromise, is back on the podcast with an … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-255-jemar-tisby-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 255 – Jemar Tisby (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[With the 4th of July coming up this week, I wanted to share this conversation with you again. It is good to celebrate our country and it is also good to critique it. In this episode, Jemar and I spoke with each other literally less than a week after the insurrection on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. We reflect on the events of that day and Jemar offers his perspectives as a historian. Thanks for listening and happy Independence Day! Jemar Tisby, the New York Times bestselling author of The Color of Compromise, is back on the podcast with an … Continue reading Episode 255 – Jemar Tisby (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:23</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 254 - Brian Kaylor]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 20:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-254-brian-kaylor</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Growing up inside American evangelicalism, I can see now that there was definitely a taste of Christian nationalism thrown into the cultural mix (though I certainly couldn’t name it at the time). If you grew up culturally Chrisitan in the U.S., the same is probably true for you, too. What Brian Kaylor and Beau Underwood point out, though, is that Protestant evangelicalism was not, and is not, the sole source of the problem. Their work, Baptizing America, describes how mainline American Protestantism significantly contributed to what scholars now call Christian Nationalism. But the book, and this conversation with Brian, isn’t … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-254-brian-kaylor/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 254 – Brian Kaylor</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Growing up inside American evangelicalism, I can see now that there was definitely a taste of Christian nationalism thrown into the cultural mix (though I certainly couldn’t name it at the time). If you grew up culturally Chrisitan in the U.S., the same is probably true for you, too. What Brian Kaylor and Beau Underwood point out, though, is that Protestant evangelicalism was not, and is not, the sole source of the problem. Their work, Baptizing America, describes how mainline American Protestantism significantly contributed to what scholars now call Christian Nationalism. But the book, and this conversation with Brian, isn’t … Continue reading Episode 254 – Brian Kaylor]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 254 - Brian Kaylor]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Growing up inside American evangelicalism, I can see now that there was definitely a taste of Christian nationalism thrown into the cultural mix (though I certainly couldn’t name it at the time). If you grew up culturally Chrisitan in the U.S., the same is probably true for you, too. What Brian Kaylor and Beau Underwood point out, though, is that Protestant evangelicalism was not, and is not, the sole source of the problem. Their work, Baptizing America, describes how mainline American Protestantism significantly contributed to what scholars now call Christian Nationalism. But the book, and this conversation with Brian, isn’t … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-254-brian-kaylor/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 254 – Brian Kaylor</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Growing up inside American evangelicalism, I can see now that there was definitely a taste of Christian nationalism thrown into the cultural mix (though I certainly couldn’t name it at the time). If you grew up culturally Chrisitan in the U.S., the same is probably true for you, too. What Brian Kaylor and Beau Underwood point out, though, is that Protestant evangelicalism was not, and is not, the sole source of the problem. Their work, Baptizing America, describes how mainline American Protestantism significantly contributed to what scholars now call Christian Nationalism. But the book, and this conversation with Brian, isn’t … Continue reading Episode 254 – Brian Kaylor]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:51:31</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 253 - Jenai Auman]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2024 17:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-253-jenai-auman</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[There is a lot of talk these days about the hurts and abuses taking place inside of churches. Unfortunately, that is true because such instances are not uncommon. Not only does it seem like every week a new story breaks of pastor or other Christian leader failing in his (usually these awful stories feature men) responsibilities, harming the people who have committed themselves to that particular community, but other stories abound, too. There are countless circumstances, that don’t make the news cycle, where people are being marginalized, hurt, abused, and taken advantage of by the people they trusted to provide … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-253-jenai-auman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 253 – Jenai Auman</span></a>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[There is a lot of talk these days about the hurts and abuses taking place inside of churches. Unfortunately, that is true because such instances are not uncommon. Not only does it seem like every week a new story breaks of pastor or other Christian leader failing in his (usually these awful stories feature men) responsibilities, harming the people who have committed themselves to that particular community, but other stories abound, too. There are countless circumstances, that don’t make the news cycle, where people are being marginalized, hurt, abused, and taken advantage of by the people they trusted to provide … Continue reading Episode 253 – Jenai Auman]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 253 - Jenai Auman]]>
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                    <![CDATA[There is a lot of talk these days about the hurts and abuses taking place inside of churches. Unfortunately, that is true because such instances are not uncommon. Not only does it seem like every week a new story breaks of pastor or other Christian leader failing in his (usually these awful stories feature men) responsibilities, harming the people who have committed themselves to that particular community, but other stories abound, too. There are countless circumstances, that don’t make the news cycle, where people are being marginalized, hurt, abused, and taken advantage of by the people they trusted to provide … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-253-jenai-auman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 253 – Jenai Auman</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[There is a lot of talk these days about the hurts and abuses taking place inside of churches. Unfortunately, that is true because such instances are not uncommon. Not only does it seem like every week a new story breaks of pastor or other Christian leader failing in his (usually these awful stories feature men) responsibilities, harming the people who have committed themselves to that particular community, but other stories abound, too. There are countless circumstances, that don’t make the news cycle, where people are being marginalized, hurt, abused, and taken advantage of by the people they trusted to provide … Continue reading Episode 253 – Jenai Auman]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:36</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 252 - Bekah McNeel]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2024 13:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1759602</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-252-bekah-mcneel-1</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[As soon as I saw Bekah McNeel had a new book coming out, I was lining up to talk with her (and I didn’t even know the subject, lol!). When I learned it was about suffering and our response to it, I was certain this was a conversation I’d want to have (that’s mostly because, as we talk about, Bekah and I are both those people you don’t want to be cornered with at a party, ha!). In all sincerity, the topics covered in this book are societally and individually relevant and Bekah encourages us to think more deeply and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-252-bekah-mcneel/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 252 – Bekah McNeel</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[As soon as I saw Bekah McNeel had a new book coming out, I was lining up to talk with her (and I didn’t even know the subject, lol!). When I learned it was about suffering and our response to it, I was certain this was a conversation I’d want to have (that’s mostly because, as we talk about, Bekah and I are both those people you don’t want to be cornered with at a party, ha!). In all sincerity, the topics covered in this book are societally and individually relevant and Bekah encourages us to think more deeply and … Continue reading Episode 252 – Bekah McNeel]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 252 - Bekah McNeel]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As soon as I saw Bekah McNeel had a new book coming out, I was lining up to talk with her (and I didn’t even know the subject, lol!). When I learned it was about suffering and our response to it, I was certain this was a conversation I’d want to have (that’s mostly because, as we talk about, Bekah and I are both those people you don’t want to be cornered with at a party, ha!). In all sincerity, the topics covered in this book are societally and individually relevant and Bekah encourages us to think more deeply and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-252-bekah-mcneel/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 252 – Bekah McNeel</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[As soon as I saw Bekah McNeel had a new book coming out, I was lining up to talk with her (and I didn’t even know the subject, lol!). When I learned it was about suffering and our response to it, I was certain this was a conversation I’d want to have (that’s mostly because, as we talk about, Bekah and I are both those people you don’t want to be cornered with at a party, ha!). In all sincerity, the topics covered in this book are societally and individually relevant and Bekah encourages us to think more deeply and … Continue reading Episode 252 – Bekah McNeel]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:58:37</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 251 with Anna Broadway]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 12:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Anna Broadway is an author who has literally traveled around the world to bring her newest book to us! And, oh yeah, she’s a single Christian. In Solo Planet, which was the basis for this conversation, Anna explores what it’s like to be single in Christian communities all over the globe. In addition to sharing parts of her own story, she conducted interviews with hundreds of people in dozens of countries and wrote about what she found. To take it a step further, she asks insightful questions about theology and church life, asks us to join her in her curiosity, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-251-with-anna-broadway/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 251 with Anna Broadway</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Anna Broadway is an author who has literally traveled around the world to bring her newest book to us! And, oh yeah, she’s a single Christian. In Solo Planet, which was the basis for this conversation, Anna explores what it’s like to be single in Christian communities all over the globe. In addition to sharing parts of her own story, she conducted interviews with hundreds of people in dozens of countries and wrote about what she found. To take it a step further, she asks insightful questions about theology and church life, asks us to join her in her curiosity, … Continue reading Ep. 251 with Anna Broadway]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 251 with Anna Broadway]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Anna Broadway is an author who has literally traveled around the world to bring her newest book to us! And, oh yeah, she’s a single Christian. In Solo Planet, which was the basis for this conversation, Anna explores what it’s like to be single in Christian communities all over the globe. In addition to sharing parts of her own story, she conducted interviews with hundreds of people in dozens of countries and wrote about what she found. To take it a step further, she asks insightful questions about theology and church life, asks us to join her in her curiosity, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-251-with-anna-broadway/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 251 with Anna Broadway</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Anna Broadway is an author who has literally traveled around the world to bring her newest book to us! And, oh yeah, she’s a single Christian. In Solo Planet, which was the basis for this conversation, Anna explores what it’s like to be single in Christian communities all over the globe. In addition to sharing parts of her own story, she conducted interviews with hundreds of people in dozens of countries and wrote about what she found. To take it a step further, she asks insightful questions about theology and church life, asks us to join her in her curiosity, … Continue reading Ep. 251 with Anna Broadway]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:04:19</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 250 - Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2024 18:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/ep-250-dr-brenda-salter-mcneil</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Dr. Brenda, I consider it to be a good day (and this recording day was a good day!). We chatted about her newest book, Empowered to Repair, which takes its themes from the story surrounding Ezra and Nehemiah (don’t worry if it’s been a minute since you’ve read those prophets, she’ll catch you up in this convo, lol). For those who may not know, Dr. Brenda is a minister who has been working, and teaching, in reconciliation spaces for decades. In her time, she has learned a thing or two about what works, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-250-dr-brenda-salter-mcneil/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 250 – Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Dr. Brenda, I consider it to be a good day (and this recording day was a good day!). We chatted about her newest book, Empowered to Repair, which takes its themes from the story surrounding Ezra and Nehemiah (don’t worry if it’s been a minute since you’ve read those prophets, she’ll catch you up in this convo, lol). For those who may not know, Dr. Brenda is a minister who has been working, and teaching, in reconciliation spaces for decades. In her time, she has learned a thing or two about what works, … Continue reading Ep. 250 – Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 250 - Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Dr. Brenda, I consider it to be a good day (and this recording day was a good day!). We chatted about her newest book, Empowered to Repair, which takes its themes from the story surrounding Ezra and Nehemiah (don’t worry if it’s been a minute since you’ve read those prophets, she’ll catch you up in this convo, lol). For those who may not know, Dr. Brenda is a minister who has been working, and teaching, in reconciliation spaces for decades. In her time, she has learned a thing or two about what works, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-250-dr-brenda-salter-mcneil/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 250 – Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Dr. Brenda, I consider it to be a good day (and this recording day was a good day!). We chatted about her newest book, Empowered to Repair, which takes its themes from the story surrounding Ezra and Nehemiah (don’t worry if it’s been a minute since you’ve read those prophets, she’ll catch you up in this convo, lol). For those who may not know, Dr. Brenda is a minister who has been working, and teaching, in reconciliation spaces for decades. In her time, she has learned a thing or two about what works, … Continue reading Ep. 250 – Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:24</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 249 - Scott Coley]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-249-scott-coley</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[The subject matter of Scott Coley’s new book might be familiar to many of us, but the way in which he presents it was new for me! Scott is a philosopher and professor, so he comes at many of the questions (and problems) we see within the religious right, especially in the United States, from that perspective. I for one, am accustomed to thinking about these topics theologically, and while Scott does have theological opinions he expresses, the main points he focuses on are philosophical. The book was rich and I feel like we barely scratched the surface in this … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-249-scott-coley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 249 – Scott Coley</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[The subject matter of Scott Coley’s new book might be familiar to many of us, but the way in which he presents it was new for me! Scott is a philosopher and professor, so he comes at many of the questions (and problems) we see within the religious right, especially in the United States, from that perspective. I for one, am accustomed to thinking about these topics theologically, and while Scott does have theological opinions he expresses, the main points he focuses on are philosophical. The book was rich and I feel like we barely scratched the surface in this … Continue reading Episode 249 – Scott Coley]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 249 - Scott Coley]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The subject matter of Scott Coley’s new book might be familiar to many of us, but the way in which he presents it was new for me! Scott is a philosopher and professor, so he comes at many of the questions (and problems) we see within the religious right, especially in the United States, from that perspective. I for one, am accustomed to thinking about these topics theologically, and while Scott does have theological opinions he expresses, the main points he focuses on are philosophical. The book was rich and I feel like we barely scratched the surface in this … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-249-scott-coley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 249 – Scott Coley</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The subject matter of Scott Coley’s new book might be familiar to many of us, but the way in which he presents it was new for me! Scott is a philosopher and professor, so he comes at many of the questions (and problems) we see within the religious right, especially in the United States, from that perspective. I for one, am accustomed to thinking about these topics theologically, and while Scott does have theological opinions he expresses, the main points he focuses on are philosophical. The book was rich and I feel like we barely scratched the surface in this … Continue reading Episode 249 – Scott Coley]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:18:18</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 248 - Courtney Ellis]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 18:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1739697</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-248-courtney-ellis</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Talking with Courtney Ellis about, of all things, grief and birds was so wonderfully rich! Before I read her newest book, Looking Up, I had no idea how beautiful vultures could be, for example, and how God’s plans for creation, life and death included, could reveal so much about God’s character and our relationships to each other. Courtney’s gift as a pastor shows up in the text and in this conversation and I am so excited to share it with you! Mentioned in this episode: Looking Up: A Birder’s Guide to Hope Through Grief by Courtney Ellis Prayer in the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-248-courtney-ellis/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 248 – Courtney Ellis</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Talking with Courtney Ellis about, of all things, grief and birds was so wonderfully rich! Before I read her newest book, Looking Up, I had no idea how beautiful vultures could be, for example, and how God’s plans for creation, life and death included, could reveal so much about God’s character and our relationships to each other. Courtney’s gift as a pastor shows up in the text and in this conversation and I am so excited to share it with you! Mentioned in this episode: Looking Up: A Birder’s Guide to Hope Through Grief by Courtney Ellis Prayer in the … Continue reading Episode 248 – Courtney Ellis]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 248 - Courtney Ellis]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with Courtney Ellis about, of all things, grief and birds was so wonderfully rich! Before I read her newest book, Looking Up, I had no idea how beautiful vultures could be, for example, and how God’s plans for creation, life and death included, could reveal so much about God’s character and our relationships to each other. Courtney’s gift as a pastor shows up in the text and in this conversation and I am so excited to share it with you! Mentioned in this episode: Looking Up: A Birder’s Guide to Hope Through Grief by Courtney Ellis Prayer in the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-248-courtney-ellis/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 248 – Courtney Ellis</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with Courtney Ellis about, of all things, grief and birds was so wonderfully rich! Before I read her newest book, Looking Up, I had no idea how beautiful vultures could be, for example, and how God’s plans for creation, life and death included, could reveal so much about God’s character and our relationships to each other. Courtney’s gift as a pastor shows up in the text and in this conversation and I am so excited to share it with you! Mentioned in this episode: Looking Up: A Birder’s Guide to Hope Through Grief by Courtney Ellis Prayer in the … Continue reading Episode 248 – Courtney Ellis]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:58:21</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 247 - Ashlee Eiland]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2024 18:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-247-ashlee-eiland</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[It is an absolute joy to share space with Ashlee Eiland! She was brave enough to come on the podcast during my first year and gracious enough to join me again. This time our conversation centered around her newest book, Say Good. We all know we’re navigating (often, whether we like it or not) difficult situations where complex issues come up in everyday life with our neighbors and our social media communities. Ashlee compares these circumstances to tight rope walking and travels with us as we practice poise with the people around us. I am incredibly grateful for her voice … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-247-ashlee-eiland/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 247 – Ashlee Eiland</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[It is an absolute joy to share space with Ashlee Eiland! She was brave enough to come on the podcast during my first year and gracious enough to join me again. This time our conversation centered around her newest book, Say Good. We all know we’re navigating (often, whether we like it or not) difficult situations where complex issues come up in everyday life with our neighbors and our social media communities. Ashlee compares these circumstances to tight rope walking and travels with us as we practice poise with the people around us. I am incredibly grateful for her voice … Continue reading Episode 247 – Ashlee Eiland]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 247 - Ashlee Eiland]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It is an absolute joy to share space with Ashlee Eiland! She was brave enough to come on the podcast during my first year and gracious enough to join me again. This time our conversation centered around her newest book, Say Good. We all know we’re navigating (often, whether we like it or not) difficult situations where complex issues come up in everyday life with our neighbors and our social media communities. Ashlee compares these circumstances to tight rope walking and travels with us as we practice poise with the people around us. I am incredibly grateful for her voice … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-247-ashlee-eiland/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 247 – Ashlee Eiland</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It is an absolute joy to share space with Ashlee Eiland! She was brave enough to come on the podcast during my first year and gracious enough to join me again. This time our conversation centered around her newest book, Say Good. We all know we’re navigating (often, whether we like it or not) difficult situations where complex issues come up in everyday life with our neighbors and our social media communities. Ashlee compares these circumstances to tight rope walking and travels with us as we practice poise with the people around us. I am incredibly grateful for her voice … Continue reading Episode 247 – Ashlee Eiland]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:17:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 246 - Henriette Mutegwaraba]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1729647</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-246-henriette-mutegwaraba</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[April marks genocide awareness month, bringing attention to all the atrocities the world has witnessed in the past and offering a collective never again to any present or future threats. This April also marks 30 years since the Rwandan genocide, which began in April of 1994 where one million Tutsi people lost their lives at the hands of their Hutu neighbors. As my guest (and friend!), Henriette Mutegwaraba explores, this violent tragedy did not just happen suddenly. The genocide that took most of her family was the result of decades of propaganda, hate speech, and previous attempts to wipe out … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-246-henriette-mutegwaraba/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 246 – Henriette Mutegwaraba</span></a>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[April marks genocide awareness month, bringing attention to all the atrocities the world has witnessed in the past and offering a collective never again to any present or future threats. This April also marks 30 years since the Rwandan genocide, which began in April of 1994 where one million Tutsi people lost their lives at the hands of their Hutu neighbors. As my guest (and friend!), Henriette Mutegwaraba explores, this violent tragedy did not just happen suddenly. The genocide that took most of her family was the result of decades of propaganda, hate speech, and previous attempts to wipe out … Continue reading Episode 246 – Henriette Mutegwaraba]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 246 - Henriette Mutegwaraba]]>
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                    <![CDATA[April marks genocide awareness month, bringing attention to all the atrocities the world has witnessed in the past and offering a collective never again to any present or future threats. This April also marks 30 years since the Rwandan genocide, which began in April of 1994 where one million Tutsi people lost their lives at the hands of their Hutu neighbors. As my guest (and friend!), Henriette Mutegwaraba explores, this violent tragedy did not just happen suddenly. The genocide that took most of her family was the result of decades of propaganda, hate speech, and previous attempts to wipe out … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-246-henriette-mutegwaraba/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 246 – Henriette Mutegwaraba</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[April marks genocide awareness month, bringing attention to all the atrocities the world has witnessed in the past and offering a collective never again to any present or future threats. This April also marks 30 years since the Rwandan genocide, which began in April of 1994 where one million Tutsi people lost their lives at the hands of their Hutu neighbors. As my guest (and friend!), Henriette Mutegwaraba explores, this violent tragedy did not just happen suddenly. The genocide that took most of her family was the result of decades of propaganda, hate speech, and previous attempts to wipe out … Continue reading Episode 246 – Henriette Mutegwaraba]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:54:07</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 245 - Jenny McGee]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1725623</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-245-jenny-mcgee</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[What a pleasure to have the chance to talk with Jenny McGee, the founder of Starfish Project! A few pieces from the jewelry collection at Starfish Project have found their way into my personal collection over the years (okay, I specifically picked them out and asked for them for Christmases, birthdays, etc.) and ever since I first heard of the organization, I have been grateful for their impact and their work. Specifically, as Jenny explains, the jewelry made and sold through Starfish Project is part of a larger business enterprise in which women, who have been working in brothels and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-245-jenny-mcgee/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 245 – Jenny McGee</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What a pleasure to have the chance to talk with Jenny McGee, the founder of Starfish Project! A few pieces from the jewelry collection at Starfish Project have found their way into my personal collection over the years (okay, I specifically picked them out and asked for them for Christmases, birthdays, etc.) and ever since I first heard of the organization, I have been grateful for their impact and their work. Specifically, as Jenny explains, the jewelry made and sold through Starfish Project is part of a larger business enterprise in which women, who have been working in brothels and … Continue reading Episode 245 – Jenny McGee]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 245 - Jenny McGee]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What a pleasure to have the chance to talk with Jenny McGee, the founder of Starfish Project! A few pieces from the jewelry collection at Starfish Project have found their way into my personal collection over the years (okay, I specifically picked them out and asked for them for Christmases, birthdays, etc.) and ever since I first heard of the organization, I have been grateful for their impact and their work. Specifically, as Jenny explains, the jewelry made and sold through Starfish Project is part of a larger business enterprise in which women, who have been working in brothels and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-245-jenny-mcgee/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 245 – Jenny McGee</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What a pleasure to have the chance to talk with Jenny McGee, the founder of Starfish Project! A few pieces from the jewelry collection at Starfish Project have found their way into my personal collection over the years (okay, I specifically picked them out and asked for them for Christmases, birthdays, etc.) and ever since I first heard of the organization, I have been grateful for their impact and their work. Specifically, as Jenny explains, the jewelry made and sold through Starfish Project is part of a larger business enterprise in which women, who have been working in brothels and … Continue reading Episode 245 – Jenny McGee]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:50:30</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 244 - Trey Ferguson]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 19:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with Pastor Trey Ferguson easily and quickly became one of my favorites. Not did our time together feel life-giving, akin to having a cup (or many cups) of coffee with a dear friend, but his theological explorations were encouraging and, in some instances, challenging. Trey’s new book, Theologizin’ Bigger is not your typical theology text. It is written from where Trey sits now and from the places where his journey has taken him. What began as Twitter conversations turned into long form musings and I am here for it! A great place to interact with Trey is still … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-244-trey-ferguson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 244 – Trey Ferguson</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Pastor Trey Ferguson easily and quickly became one of my favorites. Not did our time together feel life-giving, akin to having a cup (or many cups) of coffee with a dear friend, but his theological explorations were encouraging and, in some instances, challenging. Trey’s new book, Theologizin’ Bigger is not your typical theology text. It is written from where Trey sits now and from the places where his journey has taken him. What began as Twitter conversations turned into long form musings and I am here for it! A great place to interact with Trey is still … Continue reading Episode 244 – Trey Ferguson]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 244 - Trey Ferguson]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Pastor Trey Ferguson easily and quickly became one of my favorites. Not did our time together feel life-giving, akin to having a cup (or many cups) of coffee with a dear friend, but his theological explorations were encouraging and, in some instances, challenging. Trey’s new book, Theologizin’ Bigger is not your typical theology text. It is written from where Trey sits now and from the places where his journey has taken him. What began as Twitter conversations turned into long form musings and I am here for it! A great place to interact with Trey is still … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-244-trey-ferguson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 244 – Trey Ferguson</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Pastor Trey Ferguson easily and quickly became one of my favorites. Not did our time together feel life-giving, akin to having a cup (or many cups) of coffee with a dear friend, but his theological explorations were encouraging and, in some instances, challenging. Trey’s new book, Theologizin’ Bigger is not your typical theology text. It is written from where Trey sits now and from the places where his journey has taken him. What began as Twitter conversations turned into long form musings and I am here for it! A great place to interact with Trey is still … Continue reading Episode 244 – Trey Ferguson]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:16:24</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 243 - Zion Lester & Terence Lester]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2024 20:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-243-zion-lester-amp-terence-lester</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[It’s not very often that I ask my kids to preview a book I receive for the podcast, but it’s also not very often that I am preparing to interview the authors of a children’s book (including a teenage co-author)! Zion Learns to See by Zion Lester and her father Terence covers the difficult topic of homelessness. In the story, the main character is presented with opportunities to engage with people in her community who are unhoused and she shares her experiences with the audience as she meets new people and learns about their challenges as well as their gifts. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-243-zion-lester-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 243 – Zion Lester &amp; Terence Lester</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s not very often that I ask my kids to preview a book I receive for the podcast, but it’s also not very often that I am preparing to interview the authors of a children’s book (including a teenage co-author)! Zion Learns to See by Zion Lester and her father Terence covers the difficult topic of homelessness. In the story, the main character is presented with opportunities to engage with people in her community who are unhoused and she shares her experiences with the audience as she meets new people and learns about their challenges as well as their gifts. … Continue reading Episode 243 – Zion Lester & Terence Lester]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 243 - Zion Lester & Terence Lester]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s not very often that I ask my kids to preview a book I receive for the podcast, but it’s also not very often that I am preparing to interview the authors of a children’s book (including a teenage co-author)! Zion Learns to See by Zion Lester and her father Terence covers the difficult topic of homelessness. In the story, the main character is presented with opportunities to engage with people in her community who are unhoused and she shares her experiences with the audience as she meets new people and learns about their challenges as well as their gifts. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-243-zion-lester-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 243 – Zion Lester &amp; Terence Lester</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s not very often that I ask my kids to preview a book I receive for the podcast, but it’s also not very often that I am preparing to interview the authors of a children’s book (including a teenage co-author)! Zion Learns to See by Zion Lester and her father Terence covers the difficult topic of homelessness. In the story, the main character is presented with opportunities to engage with people in her community who are unhoused and she shares her experiences with the audience as she meets new people and learns about their challenges as well as their gifts. … Continue reading Episode 243 – Zion Lester & Terence Lester]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:47:47</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 242 - Alexis Busetti]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2024 14:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 242 - Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:13:07</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 241 - Dwight Radcliff (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2024 23:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Dr. Dwight Radcliff is the academic dean for the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies at Fuller Seminary (and one of my favorite professors!). In the spring of 2022, I took his class on the Theology of Hip Hop Culture and it was life-altering (I don’t say that lightly!). As Christians, not just those of training for the pastorate, it is vital that we learn to become better, deeper listeners and studying Hip Hop happens to be an incredible tool to do just that. In this conversation, we hit the prophetic nature of Hip Hop, navigating the controversial content … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-241-dwight-radcliff-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 241 – Dwight Radcliff (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Dwight Radcliff is the academic dean for the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies at Fuller Seminary (and one of my favorite professors!). In the spring of 2022, I took his class on the Theology of Hip Hop Culture and it was life-altering (I don’t say that lightly!). As Christians, not just those of training for the pastorate, it is vital that we learn to become better, deeper listeners and studying Hip Hop happens to be an incredible tool to do just that. In this conversation, we hit the prophetic nature of Hip Hop, navigating the controversial content … Continue reading Episode 241 – Dwight Radcliff (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 241 - Dwight Radcliff (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Dwight Radcliff is the academic dean for the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies at Fuller Seminary (and one of my favorite professors!). In the spring of 2022, I took his class on the Theology of Hip Hop Culture and it was life-altering (I don’t say that lightly!). As Christians, not just those of training for the pastorate, it is vital that we learn to become better, deeper listeners and studying Hip Hop happens to be an incredible tool to do just that. In this conversation, we hit the prophetic nature of Hip Hop, navigating the controversial content … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-241-dwight-radcliff-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 241 – Dwight Radcliff (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Dwight Radcliff is the academic dean for the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies at Fuller Seminary (and one of my favorite professors!). In the spring of 2022, I took his class on the Theology of Hip Hop Culture and it was life-altering (I don’t say that lightly!). As Christians, not just those of training for the pastorate, it is vital that we learn to become better, deeper listeners and studying Hip Hop happens to be an incredible tool to do just that. In this conversation, we hit the prophetic nature of Hip Hop, navigating the controversial content … Continue reading Episode 241 – Dwight Radcliff (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 240 - Malcolm Foley]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-240-malcolm-foley</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Okay. I hope you have *half* as much fun listening to this episode as Malcolm and I had recording it! We went in with no notes, no background reading material, and (almost) no filters. Malcolm first came on the podcast in 2020 and we talked about his dissertation work on the history of lynching in America. His area of study more broadly is racialized violence in the American church and he has a book coming out in 2025 with Brazos Press on how greed intersects with the subject matter. (For clarity, as we mention in episode, the subject matter is … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-240-malcolm-foley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 240 – Malcolm Foley</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Okay. I hope you have *half* as much fun listening to this episode as Malcolm and I had recording it! We went in with no notes, no background reading material, and (almost) no filters. Malcolm first came on the podcast in 2020 and we talked about his dissertation work on the history of lynching in America. His area of study more broadly is racialized violence in the American church and he has a book coming out in 2025 with Brazos Press on how greed intersects with the subject matter. (For clarity, as we mention in episode, the subject matter is … Continue reading Episode 240 – Malcolm Foley]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 240 - Malcolm Foley]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Okay. I hope you have *half* as much fun listening to this episode as Malcolm and I had recording it! We went in with no notes, no background reading material, and (almost) no filters. Malcolm first came on the podcast in 2020 and we talked about his dissertation work on the history of lynching in America. His area of study more broadly is racialized violence in the American church and he has a book coming out in 2025 with Brazos Press on how greed intersects with the subject matter. (For clarity, as we mention in episode, the subject matter is … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-240-malcolm-foley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 240 – Malcolm Foley</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/1690219/c1e-6om3a2zonvtz2zj9-gdqo5wz2u9w5-5bk5cq.mp3" length="90091200"
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                    <![CDATA[Okay. I hope you have *half* as much fun listening to this episode as Malcolm and I had recording it! We went in with no notes, no background reading material, and (almost) no filters. Malcolm first came on the podcast in 2020 and we talked about his dissertation work on the history of lynching in America. His area of study more broadly is racialized violence in the American church and he has a book coming out in 2025 with Brazos Press on how greed intersects with the subject matter. (For clarity, as we mention in episode, the subject matter is … Continue reading Episode 240 – Malcolm Foley]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:34</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 239 - Michael Wear]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1684369</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-239-michael-wear</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Michael Wear is one of the voices I’ve been listening to, regarding politics and the Christian faith, for years now. I first heard him on a podcast (linked below) where he and his friend, Justin Giboney, were speaking about politics in ways that A. resonated deeply with me and B. I hadn’t heard many, if any Christians, speaking before. Being involved politically doesn’t mean engaging in hard core partisan politics. Being politically involved is our responsibility, as Christians, and Michael names several phenomenon we may be watching play out around us (or within us) and how we can turn to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-239-michael-wear/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 239 – Michael Wear</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Michael Wear is one of the voices I’ve been listening to, regarding politics and the Christian faith, for years now. I first heard him on a podcast (linked below) where he and his friend, Justin Giboney, were speaking about politics in ways that A. resonated deeply with me and B. I hadn’t heard many, if any Christians, speaking before. Being involved politically doesn’t mean engaging in hard core partisan politics. Being politically involved is our responsibility, as Christians, and Michael names several phenomenon we may be watching play out around us (or within us) and how we can turn to … Continue reading Episode 239 – Michael Wear]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 239 - Michael Wear]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Michael Wear is one of the voices I’ve been listening to, regarding politics and the Christian faith, for years now. I first heard him on a podcast (linked below) where he and his friend, Justin Giboney, were speaking about politics in ways that A. resonated deeply with me and B. I hadn’t heard many, if any Christians, speaking before. Being involved politically doesn’t mean engaging in hard core partisan politics. Being politically involved is our responsibility, as Christians, and Michael names several phenomenon we may be watching play out around us (or within us) and how we can turn to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-239-michael-wear/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 239 – Michael Wear</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Michael Wear is one of the voices I’ve been listening to, regarding politics and the Christian faith, for years now. I first heard him on a podcast (linked below) where he and his friend, Justin Giboney, were speaking about politics in ways that A. resonated deeply with me and B. I hadn’t heard many, if any Christians, speaking before. Being involved politically doesn’t mean engaging in hard core partisan politics. Being politically involved is our responsibility, as Christians, and Michael names several phenomenon we may be watching play out around us (or within us) and how we can turn to … Continue reading Episode 239 – Michael Wear]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 238 - Mark Elsdon]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2024 01:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/ep-238-mark-elsdon</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[When you think about your community or the neighborhoods around you, how many church buildings do you think you pass by on a daily basis? What takes place in those buildings, both on Sundays and throughout the week? And how do those spaces serve the people in close proximity? These are questions that Mark Elsdon and this group of contributors have spent a lot of time thinking about and acting on. In this edited volume, Gone for Good?, authors from an array of disciplines offer unique insights into the buildings that congregations and communities inhabit and what is happening to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-238-mark-elsdon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 238 – Mark Elsdon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When you think about your community or the neighborhoods around you, how many church buildings do you think you pass by on a daily basis? What takes place in those buildings, both on Sundays and throughout the week? And how do those spaces serve the people in close proximity? These are questions that Mark Elsdon and this group of contributors have spent a lot of time thinking about and acting on. In this edited volume, Gone for Good?, authors from an array of disciplines offer unique insights into the buildings that congregations and communities inhabit and what is happening to … Continue reading Ep. 238 – Mark Elsdon]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 238 - Mark Elsdon]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When you think about your community or the neighborhoods around you, how many church buildings do you think you pass by on a daily basis? What takes place in those buildings, both on Sundays and throughout the week? And how do those spaces serve the people in close proximity? These are questions that Mark Elsdon and this group of contributors have spent a lot of time thinking about and acting on. In this edited volume, Gone for Good?, authors from an array of disciplines offer unique insights into the buildings that congregations and communities inhabit and what is happening to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-238-mark-elsdon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 238 – Mark Elsdon</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[When you think about your community or the neighborhoods around you, how many church buildings do you think you pass by on a daily basis? What takes place in those buildings, both on Sundays and throughout the week? And how do those spaces serve the people in close proximity? These are questions that Mark Elsdon and this group of contributors have spent a lot of time thinking about and acting on. In this edited volume, Gone for Good?, authors from an array of disciplines offer unique insights into the buildings that congregations and communities inhabit and what is happening to … Continue reading Ep. 238 – Mark Elsdon]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 237 - Norman Wirzba]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[It’s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba‘s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it’s easy to believe we are the center of the universe, or at least the planet, but Wirzba offers ways to think about our existence, as earthlings, in ways that generate more awareness about the world around us. I invite all of us into this discussion in a way … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-237-norman-wirzba/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 237 – Norman Wirzba</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba‘s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it’s easy to believe we are the center of the universe, or at least the planet, but Wirzba offers ways to think about our existence, as earthlings, in ways that generate more awareness about the world around us. I invite all of us into this discussion in a way … Continue reading Ep. 237 – Norman Wirzba]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 237 - Norman Wirzba]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba‘s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it’s easy to believe we are the center of the universe, or at least the planet, but Wirzba offers ways to think about our existence, as earthlings, in ways that generate more awareness about the world around us. I invite all of us into this discussion in a way … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-237-norman-wirzba/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 237 – Norman Wirzba</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba‘s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it’s easy to believe we are the center of the universe, or at least the planet, but Wirzba offers ways to think about our existence, as earthlings, in ways that generate more awareness about the world around us. I invite all of us into this discussion in a way … Continue reading Ep. 237 – Norman Wirzba]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 236 - David Fitch]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 02:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[David Fitch is a professor at Northern Seminary and the author of several books, the latest of which is on a topic I dare say most Christians have pondered, especially in the last few years…power. In Reckoning with Power David presents a brief history of how we have come to view power, especially in the Christian community, and asks how we might better understand and wield it. As I mention up front in the episode, I don’t agree with everything David writes in this book, but I am incredibly grateful for conversation partners in what I believe is one of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-236-david-fitch/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 236 – David Fitch</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[David Fitch is a professor at Northern Seminary and the author of several books, the latest of which is on a topic I dare say most Christians have pondered, especially in the last few years…power. In Reckoning with Power David presents a brief history of how we have come to view power, especially in the Christian community, and asks how we might better understand and wield it. As I mention up front in the episode, I don’t agree with everything David writes in this book, but I am incredibly grateful for conversation partners in what I believe is one of … Continue reading Ep. 236 – David Fitch]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 236 - David Fitch]]>
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                    <![CDATA[David Fitch is a professor at Northern Seminary and the author of several books, the latest of which is on a topic I dare say most Christians have pondered, especially in the last few years…power. In Reckoning with Power David presents a brief history of how we have come to view power, especially in the Christian community, and asks how we might better understand and wield it. As I mention up front in the episode, I don’t agree with everything David writes in this book, but I am incredibly grateful for conversation partners in what I believe is one of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-236-david-fitch/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 236 – David Fitch</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[David Fitch is a professor at Northern Seminary and the author of several books, the latest of which is on a topic I dare say most Christians have pondered, especially in the last few years…power. In Reckoning with Power David presents a brief history of how we have come to view power, especially in the Christian community, and asks how we might better understand and wield it. As I mention up front in the episode, I don’t agree with everything David writes in this book, but I am incredibly grateful for conversation partners in what I believe is one of … Continue reading Ep. 236 – David Fitch]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:14:11</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 235 - Adam Gustine]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 01:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with Adam Gustine (and his book!) had me thinking about all kinds of things related to justice and to church. As believers in Jesus and part of the community called the Church, many of us are convinced that means embodying aspects of justice in some way, shape, or form, but what does that look like? Of course, the answer will definitely vary by context, but Adam gives us some aspects to ponder that can help us shape our views and our actions in this space. I can’t wait for you to listen! Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-235-adam-gustine/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 235 – Adam Gustine</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Adam Gustine (and his book!) had me thinking about all kinds of things related to justice and to church. As believers in Jesus and part of the community called the Church, many of us are convinced that means embodying aspects of justice in some way, shape, or form, but what does that look like? Of course, the answer will definitely vary by context, but Adam gives us some aspects to ponder that can help us shape our views and our actions in this space. I can’t wait for you to listen! Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a … Continue reading Ep. 235 – Adam Gustine]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 235 - Adam Gustine]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Adam Gustine (and his book!) had me thinking about all kinds of things related to justice and to church. As believers in Jesus and part of the community called the Church, many of us are convinced that means embodying aspects of justice in some way, shape, or form, but what does that look like? Of course, the answer will definitely vary by context, but Adam gives us some aspects to ponder that can help us shape our views and our actions in this space. I can’t wait for you to listen! Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-235-adam-gustine/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 235 – Adam Gustine</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Adam Gustine (and his book!) had me thinking about all kinds of things related to justice and to church. As believers in Jesus and part of the community called the Church, many of us are convinced that means embodying aspects of justice in some way, shape, or form, but what does that look like? Of course, the answer will definitely vary by context, but Adam gives us some aspects to ponder that can help us shape our views and our actions in this space. I can’t wait for you to listen! Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a … Continue reading Ep. 235 – Adam Gustine]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:47</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 234 - Lamar Hardwick]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2024 01:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Dr. Lamar Hardwick is back on the podcast! If you happened to miss our first conversation, I highly recommend you go back and listen. Lamar’s book, Disability and the Church, was the topic and it challenged my theology (in all kinds of good ways!). This time around we talked about his most recent book, How Ableism Fuels Racism, and I was challenged yet again. When it comes to how bodies have been mis-ordered and mis-treated, Lamar connects racism with ableism. He calls the church to recognize where we have failed and suggests how we can work to move forward, doing better … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-234-lamar-hardwick/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 234 – Lamar Hardwick</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Lamar Hardwick is back on the podcast! If you happened to miss our first conversation, I highly recommend you go back and listen. Lamar’s book, Disability and the Church, was the topic and it challenged my theology (in all kinds of good ways!). This time around we talked about his most recent book, How Ableism Fuels Racism, and I was challenged yet again. When it comes to how bodies have been mis-ordered and mis-treated, Lamar connects racism with ableism. He calls the church to recognize where we have failed and suggests how we can work to move forward, doing better … Continue reading Ep. 234 – Lamar Hardwick]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 234 - Lamar Hardwick]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Lamar Hardwick is back on the podcast! If you happened to miss our first conversation, I highly recommend you go back and listen. Lamar’s book, Disability and the Church, was the topic and it challenged my theology (in all kinds of good ways!). This time around we talked about his most recent book, How Ableism Fuels Racism, and I was challenged yet again. When it comes to how bodies have been mis-ordered and mis-treated, Lamar connects racism with ableism. He calls the church to recognize where we have failed and suggests how we can work to move forward, doing better … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-234-lamar-hardwick/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 234 – Lamar Hardwick</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Lamar Hardwick is back on the podcast! If you happened to miss our first conversation, I highly recommend you go back and listen. Lamar’s book, Disability and the Church, was the topic and it challenged my theology (in all kinds of good ways!). This time around we talked about his most recent book, How Ableism Fuels Racism, and I was challenged yet again. When it comes to how bodies have been mis-ordered and mis-treated, Lamar connects racism with ableism. He calls the church to recognize where we have failed and suggests how we can work to move forward, doing better … Continue reading Ep. 234 – Lamar Hardwick]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 233 - Jon Ward (Top Episodes of 2023: #1)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 01:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[And the most played episode of 2023 was…my conversation with Jon Ward! Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about this beautifully in his new book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation. In this conversation we talk about our upbringings and don’t shy away from speaking of issues with Christians in the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-233-jon-ward-top-episodes-of-2023-1/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 233 – Jon Ward (Top Episodes of 2023: #1)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[And the most played episode of 2023 was…my conversation with Jon Ward! Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about this beautifully in his new book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation. In this conversation we talk about our upbringings and don’t shy away from speaking of issues with Christians in the … Continue reading Ep. 233 – Jon Ward (Top Episodes of 2023: #1)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 233 - Jon Ward (Top Episodes of 2023: #1)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[And the most played episode of 2023 was…my conversation with Jon Ward! Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about this beautifully in his new book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation. In this conversation we talk about our upbringings and don’t shy away from speaking of issues with Christians in the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-233-jon-ward-top-episodes-of-2023-1/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 233 – Jon Ward (Top Episodes of 2023: #1)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[And the most played episode of 2023 was…my conversation with Jon Ward! Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about this beautifully in his new book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation. In this conversation we talk about our upbringings and don’t shy away from speaking of issues with Christians in the … Continue reading Ep. 233 – Jon Ward (Top Episodes of 2023: #1)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:55</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 232 - Phuc Luu (Top Episodes of 2023: #2)]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2024 23:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[The countdown continues with the #2 episode of 2023 – Dr. Phuc Luu! In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God when it comes to the topic of violence? Is it a divine attribute? What about God’s response to people who have been harmed by violent acts? Dr. Phuc Luu, author, artist, and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-232-phuc-luu-top-episodes-of-2023-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 232 – Phuc Luu (Top Episodes of 2023: #2)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The countdown continues with the #2 episode of 2023 – Dr. Phuc Luu! In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God when it comes to the topic of violence? Is it a divine attribute? What about God’s response to people who have been harmed by violent acts? Dr. Phuc Luu, author, artist, and … Continue reading Ep. 232 – Phuc Luu (Top Episodes of 2023: #2)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 232 - Phuc Luu (Top Episodes of 2023: #2)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The countdown continues with the #2 episode of 2023 – Dr. Phuc Luu! In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God when it comes to the topic of violence? Is it a divine attribute? What about God’s response to people who have been harmed by violent acts? Dr. Phuc Luu, author, artist, and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-232-phuc-luu-top-episodes-of-2023-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 232 – Phuc Luu (Top Episodes of 2023: #2)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The countdown continues with the #2 episode of 2023 – Dr. Phuc Luu! In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God when it comes to the topic of violence? Is it a divine attribute? What about God’s response to people who have been harmed by violent acts? Dr. Phuc Luu, author, artist, and … Continue reading Ep. 232 – Phuc Luu (Top Episodes of 2023: #2)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:36</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 231 - Karen Swallow Prior (Top Episodes of 2023: #3)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 01:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[I am pumped to continue the top five countdown from 2023 with this amazing conversation with Karen Swallow Prior! Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who knew values many of us have learned to attribute to Scripture actually have their deep roots in the Victorian culture. We would do well to begin to parse those … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-231-karen-swallow-prior-top-episodes-of-2023-3/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 231 – Karen Swallow Prior (Top Episodes of 2023: #3)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am pumped to continue the top five countdown from 2023 with this amazing conversation with Karen Swallow Prior! Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who knew values many of us have learned to attribute to Scripture actually have their deep roots in the Victorian culture. We would do well to begin to parse those … Continue reading Episode 231 – Karen Swallow Prior (Top Episodes of 2023: #3)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am pumped to continue the top five countdown from 2023 with this amazing conversation with Karen Swallow Prior! Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who knew values many of us have learned to attribute to Scripture actually have their deep roots in the Victorian culture. We would do well to begin to parse those … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-231-karen-swallow-prior-top-episodes-of-2023-3/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 231 – Karen Swallow Prior (Top Episodes of 2023: #3)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am pumped to continue the top five countdown from 2023 with this amazing conversation with Karen Swallow Prior! Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who knew values many of us have learned to attribute to Scripture actually have their deep roots in the Victorian culture. We would do well to begin to parse those … Continue reading Episode 231 – Karen Swallow Prior (Top Episodes of 2023: #3)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 230 - Collin Cornell (Top Episodes of 2023: #4)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[We’re continuing the release of the top 5 episodes of 2023! Up this week, my conversation with Dr. Collin Cornell about his (newly published!) article on God and fellowship. Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates to Christology speaks to the (almost irreverent) question I sometimes have hanging over my head, which is: … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-230-collin-cornell-top-episodes-of-2023-4/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 230 – Collin Cornell (Top Episodes of 2023: #4)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’re continuing the release of the top 5 episodes of 2023! Up this week, my conversation with Dr. Collin Cornell about his (newly published!) article on God and fellowship. Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates to Christology speaks to the (almost irreverent) question I sometimes have hanging over my head, which is: … Continue reading Ep. 230 – Collin Cornell (Top Episodes of 2023: #4)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’re continuing the release of the top 5 episodes of 2023! Up this week, my conversation with Dr. Collin Cornell about his (newly published!) article on God and fellowship. Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates to Christology speaks to the (almost irreverent) question I sometimes have hanging over my head, which is: … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-230-collin-cornell-top-episodes-of-2023-4/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 230 – Collin Cornell (Top Episodes of 2023: #4)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’re continuing the release of the top 5 episodes of 2023! Up this week, my conversation with Dr. Collin Cornell about his (newly published!) article on God and fellowship. Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates to Christology speaks to the (almost irreverent) question I sometimes have hanging over my head, which is: … Continue reading Ep. 230 – Collin Cornell (Top Episodes of 2023: #4)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Ep. 229 - Jen Rosner (Top Episodes of 2023: #5)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2024 16:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[To start off 2024, I am pleased to re-release the top 5, most listened to episodes of 2023! I just know you’ll enjoy this first installment with Dr. Jen Rosner of Fuller Theological Seminary! It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and along with it, the complicated and complex relationship between Christianity and Judaism. In … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-229-jen-rosner-top-episodes-of-2023-5/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 229 – Jen Rosner (Top Episodes of 2023: #5)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To start off 2024, I am pleased to re-release the top 5, most listened to episodes of 2023! I just know you’ll enjoy this first installment with Dr. Jen Rosner of Fuller Theological Seminary! It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and along with it, the complicated and complex relationship between Christianity and Judaism. In … Continue reading Ep. 229 – Jen Rosner (Top Episodes of 2023: #5)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To start off 2024, I am pleased to re-release the top 5, most listened to episodes of 2023! I just know you’ll enjoy this first installment with Dr. Jen Rosner of Fuller Theological Seminary! It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and along with it, the complicated and complex relationship between Christianity and Judaism. In … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-229-jen-rosner-top-episodes-of-2023-5/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 229 – Jen Rosner (Top Episodes of 2023: #5)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To start off 2024, I am pleased to re-release the top 5, most listened to episodes of 2023! I just know you’ll enjoy this first installment with Dr. Jen Rosner of Fuller Theological Seminary! It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and along with it, the complicated and complex relationship between Christianity and Judaism. In … Continue reading Ep. 229 – Jen Rosner (Top Episodes of 2023: #5)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 228 - The Magnificat]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2023 22:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Merry Christmas from our home to yours! How can Mary’s example, help us work toward God’s kingdom when, as Mary, what we speak doesn’t line up with what we see? Luke 1, the commonly read Christmas morning text, contains Mary’s song, her Magnificat. The prophetess sang of the promise of God’s coming kingdom. That the powerful would be toppled and the hungry fed. It was a bold prophecy for the young, poor, woman living under Roman occupation and it continues to be a bold word for us today. You might also enjoy: Ep. 018 – Emmanuel, God with Us Ep. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=22132" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 228 – The Magnificat</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Merry Christmas from our home to yours! How can Mary’s example, help us work toward God’s kingdom when, as Mary, what we speak doesn’t line up with what we see? Luke 1, the commonly read Christmas morning text, contains Mary’s song, her Magnificat. The prophetess sang of the promise of God’s coming kingdom. That the powerful would be toppled and the hungry fed. It was a bold prophecy for the young, poor, woman living under Roman occupation and it continues to be a bold word for us today. You might also enjoy: Ep. 018 – Emmanuel, God with Us Ep. … Continue reading Episode 228 – The Magnificat]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 228 - The Magnificat]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Merry Christmas from our home to yours! How can Mary’s example, help us work toward God’s kingdom when, as Mary, what we speak doesn’t line up with what we see? Luke 1, the commonly read Christmas morning text, contains Mary’s song, her Magnificat. The prophetess sang of the promise of God’s coming kingdom. That the powerful would be toppled and the hungry fed. It was a bold prophecy for the young, poor, woman living under Roman occupation and it continues to be a bold word for us today. You might also enjoy: Ep. 018 – Emmanuel, God with Us Ep. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/?post_type=podcast&amp;p=22132" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 228 – The Magnificat</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Merry Christmas from our home to yours! How can Mary’s example, help us work toward God’s kingdom when, as Mary, what we speak doesn’t line up with what we see? Luke 1, the commonly read Christmas morning text, contains Mary’s song, her Magnificat. The prophetess sang of the promise of God’s coming kingdom. That the powerful would be toppled and the hungry fed. It was a bold prophecy for the young, poor, woman living under Roman occupation and it continues to be a bold word for us today. You might also enjoy: Ep. 018 – Emmanuel, God with Us Ep. … Continue reading Episode 228 – The Magnificat]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 227 - Scott Erickson (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2023 22:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in this conversation and from his book, Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now. Scott is an artist, which encompasses a whole host of creative spheres in his work, and in these 25 readings he brings our heads and our hearts down … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-227-scott-erickson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 227 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in this conversation and from his book, Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now. Scott is an artist, which encompasses a whole host of creative spheres in his work, and in these 25 readings he brings our heads and our hearts down … Continue reading Episode 227 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in this conversation and from his book, Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now. Scott is an artist, which encompasses a whole host of creative spheres in his work, and in these 25 readings he brings our heads and our hearts down … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-227-scott-erickson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 227 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in this conversation and from his book, Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now. Scott is an artist, which encompasses a whole host of creative spheres in his work, and in these 25 readings he brings our heads and our hearts down … Continue reading Episode 227 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 226 - Dennis Edwards]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2023 23:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[It is such a joy for me every time I get to chat with Rev. Dr. Dennis Edwards! (Here are our first two conversations for the podcast.) When I saw the title of his newest book, I knew A.) I *had* to read it! and B.) that I *had* to ask him back on the podcast to talk about it! And, I’m so thrilled both worked out! This term, humility, is one that has been defined, re-defined, and many times mis-defined, especially in Christian circles. We know we desire to live out humility, but we sometimes get mixed messages on … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-226-dennis-edwards/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 226 – Dennis Edwards</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It is such a joy for me every time I get to chat with Rev. Dr. Dennis Edwards! (Here are our first two conversations for the podcast.) When I saw the title of his newest book, I knew A.) I *had* to read it! and B.) that I *had* to ask him back on the podcast to talk about it! And, I’m so thrilled both worked out! This term, humility, is one that has been defined, re-defined, and many times mis-defined, especially in Christian circles. We know we desire to live out humility, but we sometimes get mixed messages on … Continue reading Episode 226 – Dennis Edwards]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 226 - Dennis Edwards]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It is such a joy for me every time I get to chat with Rev. Dr. Dennis Edwards! (Here are our first two conversations for the podcast.) When I saw the title of his newest book, I knew A.) I *had* to read it! and B.) that I *had* to ask him back on the podcast to talk about it! And, I’m so thrilled both worked out! This term, humility, is one that has been defined, re-defined, and many times mis-defined, especially in Christian circles. We know we desire to live out humility, but we sometimes get mixed messages on … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-226-dennis-edwards/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 226 – Dennis Edwards</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It is such a joy for me every time I get to chat with Rev. Dr. Dennis Edwards! (Here are our first two conversations for the podcast.) When I saw the title of his newest book, I knew A.) I *had* to read it! and B.) that I *had* to ask him back on the podcast to talk about it! And, I’m so thrilled both worked out! This term, humility, is one that has been defined, re-defined, and many times mis-defined, especially in Christian circles. We know we desire to live out humility, but we sometimes get mixed messages on … Continue reading Episode 226 – Dennis Edwards]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 225 - Kelly Nikondeha (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 01:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise, Kelley Nikondeha‘s words will minister to you all year long! Her book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate he entered as an infant? How might his family have been dealing with their oppression? What is it like in Israel/Palestine now for Christians and Jews? If you’re curious and want to explore any of those questions, or you want to take your understanding even … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-225-kelly-nikondeha-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 225 – Kelly Nikondeha (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise, Kelley Nikondeha‘s words will minister to you all year long! Her book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate he entered as an infant? How might his family have been dealing with their oppression? What is it like in Israel/Palestine now for Christians and Jews? If you’re curious and want to explore any of those questions, or you want to take your understanding even … Continue reading Episode 225 – Kelly Nikondeha (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 225 - Kelly Nikondeha (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise, Kelley Nikondeha‘s words will minister to you all year long! Her book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate he entered as an infant? How might his family have been dealing with their oppression? What is it like in Israel/Palestine now for Christians and Jews? If you’re curious and want to explore any of those questions, or you want to take your understanding even … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-225-kelly-nikondeha-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 225 – Kelly Nikondeha (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise, Kelley Nikondeha‘s words will minister to you all year long! Her book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate he entered as an infant? How might his family have been dealing with their oppression? What is it like in Israel/Palestine now for Christians and Jews? If you’re curious and want to explore any of those questions, or you want to take your understanding even … Continue reading Episode 225 – Kelly Nikondeha (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:25</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 224 - Matthew Kaemingk]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/ep-224-matthew-kaemingk</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Woohoo! Dr. Matthew Kaemingk is back on the podcast! And this time, he is talking about the incredibly important subjects of work and worship. Conversations concerning work and worship have abounded in my house for decades. How do we view work? What’s in a calling? What about ministry as a vocation? Where do we see God in our labor? Thankfully, these questions and Matt’s research found a place to collide in this conversation (and I just littered him with questions). While this interview may whet your whistle, you’ll find lots more in the way of resources below (including a whole … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-224-matthew-kaemingk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 224 – Matthew Kaemingk</span></a>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Woohoo! Dr. Matthew Kaemingk is back on the podcast! And this time, he is talking about the incredibly important subjects of work and worship. Conversations concerning work and worship have abounded in my house for decades. How do we view work? What’s in a calling? What about ministry as a vocation? Where do we see God in our labor? Thankfully, these questions and Matt’s research found a place to collide in this conversation (and I just littered him with questions). While this interview may whet your whistle, you’ll find lots more in the way of resources below (including a whole … Continue reading Ep. 224 – Matthew Kaemingk]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 224 - Matthew Kaemingk]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Woohoo! Dr. Matthew Kaemingk is back on the podcast! And this time, he is talking about the incredibly important subjects of work and worship. Conversations concerning work and worship have abounded in my house for decades. How do we view work? What’s in a calling? What about ministry as a vocation? Where do we see God in our labor? Thankfully, these questions and Matt’s research found a place to collide in this conversation (and I just littered him with questions). While this interview may whet your whistle, you’ll find lots more in the way of resources below (including a whole … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-224-matthew-kaemingk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 224 – Matthew Kaemingk</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Woohoo! Dr. Matthew Kaemingk is back on the podcast! And this time, he is talking about the incredibly important subjects of work and worship. Conversations concerning work and worship have abounded in my house for decades. How do we view work? What’s in a calling? What about ministry as a vocation? Where do we see God in our labor? Thankfully, these questions and Matt’s research found a place to collide in this conversation (and I just littered him with questions). While this interview may whet your whistle, you’ll find lots more in the way of resources below (including a whole … Continue reading Ep. 224 – Matthew Kaemingk]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:43</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 223 - Greg Garrett]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2023 21:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1599589</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-223-greg-garrett</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Professor Dr. Greg Garrett of Baylor University has written a wonderful book on the prophet James Baldwin. For those who may not be familiar, James Baldwin was an author and civil rights leader who was born in New York and lived out his middle years and final days in Europe. While his life ended, his legacy lives on in his prophetic voice that still rings true all these decades later. Baldwin’s faith struggles were evident in his writings and while some may see that as a barrier, I find it an inviting comfort. The Gospel According to James Baldwin and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-223-greg-garrett/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 223 – Greg Garrett</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Professor Dr. Greg Garrett of Baylor University has written a wonderful book on the prophet James Baldwin. For those who may not be familiar, James Baldwin was an author and civil rights leader who was born in New York and lived out his middle years and final days in Europe. While his life ended, his legacy lives on in his prophetic voice that still rings true all these decades later. Baldwin’s faith struggles were evident in his writings and while some may see that as a barrier, I find it an inviting comfort. The Gospel According to James Baldwin and … Continue reading Episode 223 – Greg Garrett]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 223 - Greg Garrett]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Professor Dr. Greg Garrett of Baylor University has written a wonderful book on the prophet James Baldwin. For those who may not be familiar, James Baldwin was an author and civil rights leader who was born in New York and lived out his middle years and final days in Europe. While his life ended, his legacy lives on in his prophetic voice that still rings true all these decades later. Baldwin’s faith struggles were evident in his writings and while some may see that as a barrier, I find it an inviting comfort. The Gospel According to James Baldwin and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-223-greg-garrett/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 223 – Greg Garrett</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/a0195e6a-8393-4dfa-82ca-327dfdbc2fd4-223-Podcast-Episode-Greg-Garrett.mp3" length="103491389"
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                    <![CDATA[Professor Dr. Greg Garrett of Baylor University has written a wonderful book on the prophet James Baldwin. For those who may not be familiar, James Baldwin was an author and civil rights leader who was born in New York and lived out his middle years and final days in Europe. While his life ended, his legacy lives on in his prophetic voice that still rings true all these decades later. Baldwin’s faith struggles were evident in his writings and while some may see that as a barrier, I find it an inviting comfort. The Gospel According to James Baldwin and … Continue reading Episode 223 – Greg Garrett]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:11:53</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 222 - Jennifer Holberg]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1594889</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-222-jennifer-holberg</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[It was a wonderful privilege to chat with Dr. Jennifer Holberg. If you listened to my conversation with (the Notorious) Karen Swallow Prior, you’ll remember that I get a little nervous talking with English professors, haha!, but, like KSP, Jennifer was a delight! Jennifer teaches at Calvin University where she is the chair of the English Department. Thankfully, there’s no shame with Jennifer when it comes to what we’ve read or haven’t read. She is more interested in how what we’ve read continues to shape us. We chatted about the power of narrative in our lives in general and how … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-222-jennifer-holberg/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 222 – Jennifer Holberg</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[It was a wonderful privilege to chat with Dr. Jennifer Holberg. If you listened to my conversation with (the Notorious) Karen Swallow Prior, you’ll remember that I get a little nervous talking with English professors, haha!, but, like KSP, Jennifer was a delight! Jennifer teaches at Calvin University where she is the chair of the English Department. Thankfully, there’s no shame with Jennifer when it comes to what we’ve read or haven’t read. She is more interested in how what we’ve read continues to shape us. We chatted about the power of narrative in our lives in general and how … Continue reading Episode 222 – Jennifer Holberg]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 222 - Jennifer Holberg]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was a wonderful privilege to chat with Dr. Jennifer Holberg. If you listened to my conversation with (the Notorious) Karen Swallow Prior, you’ll remember that I get a little nervous talking with English professors, haha!, but, like KSP, Jennifer was a delight! Jennifer teaches at Calvin University where she is the chair of the English Department. Thankfully, there’s no shame with Jennifer when it comes to what we’ve read or haven’t read. She is more interested in how what we’ve read continues to shape us. We chatted about the power of narrative in our lives in general and how … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-222-jennifer-holberg/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 222 – Jennifer Holberg</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/835efe45-dfb3-43c9-8052-2597c81ba31f-222-Podcast-Episode-Jennifer-Holberg.mp3" length="86528307"
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                    <![CDATA[It was a wonderful privilege to chat with Dr. Jennifer Holberg. If you listened to my conversation with (the Notorious) Karen Swallow Prior, you’ll remember that I get a little nervous talking with English professors, haha!, but, like KSP, Jennifer was a delight! Jennifer teaches at Calvin University where she is the chair of the English Department. Thankfully, there’s no shame with Jennifer when it comes to what we’ve read or haven’t read. She is more interested in how what we’ve read continues to shape us. We chatted about the power of narrative in our lives in general and how … Continue reading Episode 222 – Jennifer Holberg]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:00:06</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 221 - Robert P. Jones]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2023 23:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1590268</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-221-robert-p-jones</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Robert P. Jones is the president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the author of several books, including his most recent The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy, which is the topic of this conversation. In it, Robert connects the founding of the U.S., specifically the genocide and removal of Native peoples, with the ongoing racism resulting in violent acts toward African Americans. While most of the events described are historical, the attitudes leading to the violence witnessed still persist today, especially among certain groups, namely those who identify as Republican and white evangelical Protestant. Knowing this though, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-221-robert-p-jones/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 221 – Robert P. Jones</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Robert P. Jones is the president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the author of several books, including his most recent The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy, which is the topic of this conversation. In it, Robert connects the founding of the U.S., specifically the genocide and removal of Native peoples, with the ongoing racism resulting in violent acts toward African Americans. While most of the events described are historical, the attitudes leading to the violence witnessed still persist today, especially among certain groups, namely those who identify as Republican and white evangelical Protestant. Knowing this though, … Continue reading Episode 221 – Robert P. Jones]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 221 - Robert P. Jones]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Robert P. Jones is the president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the author of several books, including his most recent The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy, which is the topic of this conversation. In it, Robert connects the founding of the U.S., specifically the genocide and removal of Native peoples, with the ongoing racism resulting in violent acts toward African Americans. While most of the events described are historical, the attitudes leading to the violence witnessed still persist today, especially among certain groups, namely those who identify as Republican and white evangelical Protestant. Knowing this though, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-221-robert-p-jones/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 221 – Robert P. Jones</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/34ac88a2-502c-49e2-8b1b-7a5c4d282af0-221-Podcast-Episode-Robert-P-Jones.mp3" length="97235794"
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                    <![CDATA[Robert P. Jones is the president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the author of several books, including his most recent The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy, which is the topic of this conversation. In it, Robert connects the founding of the U.S., specifically the genocide and removal of Native peoples, with the ongoing racism resulting in violent acts toward African Americans. While most of the events described are historical, the attitudes leading to the violence witnessed still persist today, especially among certain groups, namely those who identify as Republican and white evangelical Protestant. Knowing this though, … Continue reading Episode 221 – Robert P. Jones]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:32</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 220 - Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 22:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1585985</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-220-dr-chanequa-walker-barnes</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I did not know this book (and this conversation!) with Dr. Chanequa was exactly what I needed right now. Dr. Chanequa, as a psychologist, professor, and preacher, encourages and challenges that self-care ought not be an afterthought in our daily lives. Also being true, self-care doesn’t only consist of the things we’ve been socialized to believe it consists of: spa days and manicures. Self-care is sacred because we are sacred. We, as embodied creatures of the most high Creator are sacred to God and, as Dr. Chanequa reminds, our bodies are God’s first gift to each of us. It will … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-220-dr-chanequa-walker-barnes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 220 – Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I did not know this book (and this conversation!) with Dr. Chanequa was exactly what I needed right now. Dr. Chanequa, as a psychologist, professor, and preacher, encourages and challenges that self-care ought not be an afterthought in our daily lives. Also being true, self-care doesn’t only consist of the things we’ve been socialized to believe it consists of: spa days and manicures. Self-care is sacred because we are sacred. We, as embodied creatures of the most high Creator are sacred to God and, as Dr. Chanequa reminds, our bodies are God’s first gift to each of us. It will … Continue reading Episode 220 – Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 220 - Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I did not know this book (and this conversation!) with Dr. Chanequa was exactly what I needed right now. Dr. Chanequa, as a psychologist, professor, and preacher, encourages and challenges that self-care ought not be an afterthought in our daily lives. Also being true, self-care doesn’t only consist of the things we’ve been socialized to believe it consists of: spa days and manicures. Self-care is sacred because we are sacred. We, as embodied creatures of the most high Creator are sacred to God and, as Dr. Chanequa reminds, our bodies are God’s first gift to each of us. It will … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-220-dr-chanequa-walker-barnes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 220 – Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/4b139c42-5ea2-43e0-878a-8c05abb24f52-220-Podcast-Episode-Chanequa-Walker-Barnes.mp3" length="73537508"
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                    <![CDATA[I did not know this book (and this conversation!) with Dr. Chanequa was exactly what I needed right now. Dr. Chanequa, as a psychologist, professor, and preacher, encourages and challenges that self-care ought not be an afterthought in our daily lives. Also being true, self-care doesn’t only consist of the things we’ve been socialized to believe it consists of: spa days and manicures. Self-care is sacred because we are sacred. We, as embodied creatures of the most high Creator are sacred to God and, as Dr. Chanequa reminds, our bodies are God’s first gift to each of us. It will … Continue reading Episode 220 – Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:51:05</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 219 - Mae Elise Cannon (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2023 00:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1582022</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-219-mae-elise-cannon-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon was originally released in December of 2021. In it, Mae gives a brief, but rich, balanced, and incredibly well-informed explanation of the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Mae is the executive director of Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP), a coalition working to promote sound U.S. policy as well as provide holistic education on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. The conversation around the topic is nuanced and complex, still Mae and CMEP challenge and encourage Christians to believe that “…Justice can prevail. Peace is possible.” *Note in this episode, when either of us mention the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-219-mae-elise-cannon-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 219 – Mae Elise Cannon (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon was originally released in December of 2021. In it, Mae gives a brief, but rich, balanced, and incredibly well-informed explanation of the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Mae is the executive director of Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP), a coalition working to promote sound U.S. policy as well as provide holistic education on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. The conversation around the topic is nuanced and complex, still Mae and CMEP challenge and encourage Christians to believe that “…Justice can prevail. Peace is possible.” *Note in this episode, when either of us mention the … Continue reading Episode 219 – Mae Elise Cannon (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 219 - Mae Elise Cannon (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon was originally released in December of 2021. In it, Mae gives a brief, but rich, balanced, and incredibly well-informed explanation of the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Mae is the executive director of Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP), a coalition working to promote sound U.S. policy as well as provide holistic education on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. The conversation around the topic is nuanced and complex, still Mae and CMEP challenge and encourage Christians to believe that “…Justice can prevail. Peace is possible.” *Note in this episode, when either of us mention the … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-219-mae-elise-cannon-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 219 – Mae Elise Cannon (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/4f228dc8-9cae-46f6-a33a-daa087fad4e0-219-Podcast-Episode-Mae-Elise-Cannon-2-replay-.mp3" length="91203389"
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon was originally released in December of 2021. In it, Mae gives a brief, but rich, balanced, and incredibly well-informed explanation of the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Mae is the executive director of Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP), a coalition working to promote sound U.S. policy as well as provide holistic education on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. The conversation around the topic is nuanced and complex, still Mae and CMEP challenge and encourage Christians to believe that “…Justice can prevail. Peace is possible.” *Note in this episode, when either of us mention the … Continue reading Episode 219 – Mae Elise Cannon (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:03:21</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 218 - Alicia Akins]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[It was a pleasure to host Alicia Akins again on the podcast! If you missed her the first time around, I encourage you to go back and take a listen. This time, we chatted about her new book, The Gift of the Outsider. As someone who identifies as an outsider in many ways and in many seasons of her life, Alicia helps us see ourselves and each other as gifts to the larger body of Christ. We can learn so much by who we consider “in” and “out” and where and when those labels are used and lines are drawn … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-218-alicia-akins/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 218 – Alicia Akins</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was a pleasure to host Alicia Akins again on the podcast! If you missed her the first time around, I encourage you to go back and take a listen. This time, we chatted about her new book, The Gift of the Outsider. As someone who identifies as an outsider in many ways and in many seasons of her life, Alicia helps us see ourselves and each other as gifts to the larger body of Christ. We can learn so much by who we consider “in” and “out” and where and when those labels are used and lines are drawn … Continue reading Episode 218 – Alicia Akins]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 218 - Alicia Akins]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was a pleasure to host Alicia Akins again on the podcast! If you missed her the first time around, I encourage you to go back and take a listen. This time, we chatted about her new book, The Gift of the Outsider. As someone who identifies as an outsider in many ways and in many seasons of her life, Alicia helps us see ourselves and each other as gifts to the larger body of Christ. We can learn so much by who we consider “in” and “out” and where and when those labels are used and lines are drawn … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-218-alicia-akins/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 218 – Alicia Akins</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was a pleasure to host Alicia Akins again on the podcast! If you missed her the first time around, I encourage you to go back and take a listen. This time, we chatted about her new book, The Gift of the Outsider. As someone who identifies as an outsider in many ways and in many seasons of her life, Alicia helps us see ourselves and each other as gifts to the larger body of Christ. We can learn so much by who we consider “in” and “out” and where and when those labels are used and lines are drawn … Continue reading Episode 218 – Alicia Akins]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:53:47</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 217 - Shannan Martin]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2023 23:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-217-shannan-martin</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I’ll take any excuse I can get to talk with Shannan Martin! This time we chatted about her most recent book release, Start With Hello, about being neighbors. (Last time we chatted about her first book, Falling Free, which celebrated its book birthday the day we recorded this interview!) On the surface, it seems simple – be a good neighbor. It’s one of our most basic callings as Christians (and people!), but practically, it can be one of the more difficult callings to actually live out. Shannan’s book isn’t a “how to” for neighborly living, but she does give some … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-217-shannan-martin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 217 – Shannan Martin</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[I’ll take any excuse I can get to talk with Shannan Martin! This time we chatted about her most recent book release, Start With Hello, about being neighbors. (Last time we chatted about her first book, Falling Free, which celebrated its book birthday the day we recorded this interview!) On the surface, it seems simple – be a good neighbor. It’s one of our most basic callings as Christians (and people!), but practically, it can be one of the more difficult callings to actually live out. Shannan’s book isn’t a “how to” for neighborly living, but she does give some … Continue reading Episode 217 – Shannan Martin]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 217 - Shannan Martin]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I’ll take any excuse I can get to talk with Shannan Martin! This time we chatted about her most recent book release, Start With Hello, about being neighbors. (Last time we chatted about her first book, Falling Free, which celebrated its book birthday the day we recorded this interview!) On the surface, it seems simple – be a good neighbor. It’s one of our most basic callings as Christians (and people!), but practically, it can be one of the more difficult callings to actually live out. Shannan’s book isn’t a “how to” for neighborly living, but she does give some … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-217-shannan-martin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 217 – Shannan Martin</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I’ll take any excuse I can get to talk with Shannan Martin! This time we chatted about her most recent book release, Start With Hello, about being neighbors. (Last time we chatted about her first book, Falling Free, which celebrated its book birthday the day we recorded this interview!) On the surface, it seems simple – be a good neighbor. It’s one of our most basic callings as Christians (and people!), but practically, it can be one of the more difficult callings to actually live out. Shannan’s book isn’t a “how to” for neighborly living, but she does give some … Continue reading Episode 217 – Shannan Martin]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:00:45</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 216 - Phuc Luu]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2023 17:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-216-phuc-luu</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God when it comes to the topic of violence? Is it a divine attribute? What about God’s response to people who have been harmed by violent acts? Dr. Phuc Luu, author, artist, and teacher, helps us engage some of these important questions in this conversation based … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-216-phuc-luu/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 216 – Phuc Luu</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God when it comes to the topic of violence? Is it a divine attribute? What about God’s response to people who have been harmed by violent acts? Dr. Phuc Luu, author, artist, and teacher, helps us engage some of these important questions in this conversation based … Continue reading Episode 216 – Phuc Luu]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 216 - Phuc Luu]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God when it comes to the topic of violence? Is it a divine attribute? What about God’s response to people who have been harmed by violent acts? Dr. Phuc Luu, author, artist, and teacher, helps us engage some of these important questions in this conversation based … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-216-phuc-luu/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 216 – Phuc Luu</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God when it comes to the topic of violence? Is it a divine attribute? What about God’s response to people who have been harmed by violent acts? Dr. Phuc Luu, author, artist, and teacher, helps us engage some of these important questions in this conversation based … Continue reading Episode 216 – Phuc Luu]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:35</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 215 - Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 22:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-215-jonathan-wilson-hartgrove</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove’s 2019 release, Revolution of Values, is just as pertinent and applicable as it was when he was writing it. He had me from page 1! Jonathan presents that over the last several decades, white conservative Christians have framed certain issues as the main ones that warrant our concern to the neglect of others. The neglected concerns have usually been the ones that largely affect people who have already been systemically marginalized. In this conversation, Jonathan and I talk about the history of how this has happened (and keeps happening) and what that looks like today. Mentioned in this … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-215-jonathan-wilson-hartgrove/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 215 – Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove’s 2019 release, Revolution of Values, is just as pertinent and applicable as it was when he was writing it. He had me from page 1! Jonathan presents that over the last several decades, white conservative Christians have framed certain issues as the main ones that warrant our concern to the neglect of others. The neglected concerns have usually been the ones that largely affect people who have already been systemically marginalized. In this conversation, Jonathan and I talk about the history of how this has happened (and keeps happening) and what that looks like today. Mentioned in this … Continue reading Episode 215 – Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 215 - Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove’s 2019 release, Revolution of Values, is just as pertinent and applicable as it was when he was writing it. He had me from page 1! Jonathan presents that over the last several decades, white conservative Christians have framed certain issues as the main ones that warrant our concern to the neglect of others. The neglected concerns have usually been the ones that largely affect people who have already been systemically marginalized. In this conversation, Jonathan and I talk about the history of how this has happened (and keeps happening) and what that looks like today. Mentioned in this … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-215-jonathan-wilson-hartgrove/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 215 – Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove’s 2019 release, Revolution of Values, is just as pertinent and applicable as it was when he was writing it. He had me from page 1! Jonathan presents that over the last several decades, white conservative Christians have framed certain issues as the main ones that warrant our concern to the neglect of others. The neglected concerns have usually been the ones that largely affect people who have already been systemically marginalized. In this conversation, Jonathan and I talk about the history of how this has happened (and keeps happening) and what that looks like today. Mentioned in this … Continue reading Episode 215 – Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:54:13</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 214 - Collin Cornell]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 00:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-214-collin-cornell</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates to Christology speaks to the (almost irreverent) question I sometimes have hanging over my head, which is: Why Jesus? Did Jesus come to us incarnate just to serve some utilitarian purpose in his death and resurrection? What else is present in the story of his … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-214-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 214 – Collin Cornell</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates to Christology speaks to the (almost irreverent) question I sometimes have hanging over my head, which is: Why Jesus? Did Jesus come to us incarnate just to serve some utilitarian purpose in his death and resurrection? What else is present in the story of his … Continue reading Episode 214 – Collin Cornell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 214 - Collin Cornell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates to Christology speaks to the (almost irreverent) question I sometimes have hanging over my head, which is: Why Jesus? Did Jesus come to us incarnate just to serve some utilitarian purpose in his death and resurrection? What else is present in the story of his … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-214-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 214 – Collin Cornell</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/2dc36da6-8641-4b55-99bb-80a067df07a0-214-Podcast-Episode-Collin-Cornell.mp3" length="79226351"
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates to Christology speaks to the (almost irreverent) question I sometimes have hanging over my head, which is: Why Jesus? Did Jesus come to us incarnate just to serve some utilitarian purpose in his death and resurrection? What else is present in the story of his … Continue reading Episode 214 – Collin Cornell]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 213 - Scot McKnight]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2023 21:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-213-scot-mcknight</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[Scot McKnight is on the podcast! His new release Revelation for the Rest of Us hit home for me. Turns out, Scot and I grew up in church communities that were teaching similar things about this mysterious book. The “literal” interpretations of Revelation often led to great (and scary!) speculations about what the end of the world might look like. Scot challenges that the text found at the end of our Bibles requires an entirely different kind of reading than the one that inspired films and book series predicting violent martyrdom and leaders who could be named the antichrist around … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-213-scot-mcknight/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 213 – Scot McKnight</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Scot McKnight is on the podcast! His new release Revelation for the Rest of Us hit home for me. Turns out, Scot and I grew up in church communities that were teaching similar things about this mysterious book. The “literal” interpretations of Revelation often led to great (and scary!) speculations about what the end of the world might look like. Scot challenges that the text found at the end of our Bibles requires an entirely different kind of reading than the one that inspired films and book series predicting violent martyrdom and leaders who could be named the antichrist around … Continue reading Episode 213 – Scot McKnight]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 213 - Scot McKnight]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Scot McKnight is on the podcast! His new release Revelation for the Rest of Us hit home for me. Turns out, Scot and I grew up in church communities that were teaching similar things about this mysterious book. The “literal” interpretations of Revelation often led to great (and scary!) speculations about what the end of the world might look like. Scot challenges that the text found at the end of our Bibles requires an entirely different kind of reading than the one that inspired films and book series predicting violent martyrdom and leaders who could be named the antichrist around … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-213-scot-mcknight/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 213 – Scot McKnight</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Scot McKnight is on the podcast! His new release Revelation for the Rest of Us hit home for me. Turns out, Scot and I grew up in church communities that were teaching similar things about this mysterious book. The “literal” interpretations of Revelation often led to great (and scary!) speculations about what the end of the world might look like. Scot challenges that the text found at the end of our Bibles requires an entirely different kind of reading than the one that inspired films and book series predicting violent martyrdom and leaders who could be named the antichrist around … Continue reading Episode 213 – Scot McKnight]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 212 - Dennis Edwards]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2023 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-212-dennis-edwards</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Dr. Dennis Edwards is back! If you missed our first conversation, be sure to go back and listen – you’ll be glad you did! This time we chatted about a book that was just released, edited by Dennis and Lisa Bowens called Do Black Lives Matter? In this conversation, we talk about a few of the contributions to the book, an African American hermeneutic, and his essay on police violence. While the compilation began in 2020, the words are still as relevant today. Any time Dennis shares his scholarly and pastoral voice, I am here ready to listen! Mentioned in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-212-dennis-edwards/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 212 – Dennis Edwards</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Dennis Edwards is back! If you missed our first conversation, be sure to go back and listen – you’ll be glad you did! This time we chatted about a book that was just released, edited by Dennis and Lisa Bowens called Do Black Lives Matter? In this conversation, we talk about a few of the contributions to the book, an African American hermeneutic, and his essay on police violence. While the compilation began in 2020, the words are still as relevant today. Any time Dennis shares his scholarly and pastoral voice, I am here ready to listen! Mentioned in … Continue reading Episode 212 – Dennis Edwards]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 212 - Dennis Edwards]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Dennis Edwards is back! If you missed our first conversation, be sure to go back and listen – you’ll be glad you did! This time we chatted about a book that was just released, edited by Dennis and Lisa Bowens called Do Black Lives Matter? In this conversation, we talk about a few of the contributions to the book, an African American hermeneutic, and his essay on police violence. While the compilation began in 2020, the words are still as relevant today. Any time Dennis shares his scholarly and pastoral voice, I am here ready to listen! Mentioned in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-212-dennis-edwards/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 212 – Dennis Edwards</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. Dennis Edwards is back! If you missed our first conversation, be sure to go back and listen – you’ll be glad you did! This time we chatted about a book that was just released, edited by Dennis and Lisa Bowens called Do Black Lives Matter? In this conversation, we talk about a few of the contributions to the book, an African American hermeneutic, and his essay on police violence. While the compilation began in 2020, the words are still as relevant today. Any time Dennis shares his scholarly and pastoral voice, I am here ready to listen! Mentioned in … Continue reading Episode 212 – Dennis Edwards]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 211 - Carmen Joy Imes]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 22:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Talking with professors is just about one of my favorite things to do (both on and off the podcast) and this conversation with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes definitely reinforced that joy for me! We chatted about her most recent book release, Being God’s Image. Literally, from Genesis to Revelation, Carmen writes on what it means to be human – being God’s image in the world. Whether you’ve been familiar with this terminology your whole life or it’s brand new to you, I encourage you to pause with us and reconsider what being God’s image means in our lives. Mentioned in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-211-carmen-joy-imes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 211 – Carmen Joy Imes</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with professors is just about one of my favorite things to do (both on and off the podcast) and this conversation with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes definitely reinforced that joy for me! We chatted about her most recent book release, Being God’s Image. Literally, from Genesis to Revelation, Carmen writes on what it means to be human – being God’s image in the world. Whether you’ve been familiar with this terminology your whole life or it’s brand new to you, I encourage you to pause with us and reconsider what being God’s image means in our lives. Mentioned in … Continue reading Episode 211 – Carmen Joy Imes]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 211 - Carmen Joy Imes]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with professors is just about one of my favorite things to do (both on and off the podcast) and this conversation with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes definitely reinforced that joy for me! We chatted about her most recent book release, Being God’s Image. Literally, from Genesis to Revelation, Carmen writes on what it means to be human – being God’s image in the world. Whether you’ve been familiar with this terminology your whole life or it’s brand new to you, I encourage you to pause with us and reconsider what being God’s image means in our lives. Mentioned in … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-211-carmen-joy-imes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 211 – Carmen Joy Imes</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Talking with professors is just about one of my favorite things to do (both on and off the podcast) and this conversation with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes definitely reinforced that joy for me! We chatted about her most recent book release, Being God’s Image. Literally, from Genesis to Revelation, Carmen writes on what it means to be human – being God’s image in the world. Whether you’ve been familiar with this terminology your whole life or it’s brand new to you, I encourage you to pause with us and reconsider what being God’s image means in our lives. Mentioned in … Continue reading Episode 211 – Carmen Joy Imes]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:04:38</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <item>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 210 - Andrew Whitehead]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2023 23:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us – the lay Christian in America (don’t worry – there are still plenty of end notes and references!). Becoming more educated on the effects of Christian nationalism in our communities can help us understand how we can combat them and why it matters that we do so. This is the book (and conversation) I would recommend to anyone … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-210-andrew-whitehead/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 210 – Andrew Whitehead</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us – the lay Christian in America (don’t worry – there are still plenty of end notes and references!). Becoming more educated on the effects of Christian nationalism in our communities can help us understand how we can combat them and why it matters that we do so. This is the book (and conversation) I would recommend to anyone … Continue reading Episode 210 – Andrew Whitehead]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 210 - Andrew Whitehead]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us – the lay Christian in America (don’t worry – there are still plenty of end notes and references!). Becoming more educated on the effects of Christian nationalism in our communities can help us understand how we can combat them and why it matters that we do so. This is the book (and conversation) I would recommend to anyone … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-210-andrew-whitehead/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 210 – Andrew Whitehead</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us – the lay Christian in America (don’t worry – there are still plenty of end notes and references!). Becoming more educated on the effects of Christian nationalism in our communities can help us understand how we can combat them and why it matters that we do so. This is the book (and conversation) I would recommend to anyone … Continue reading Episode 210 – Andrew Whitehead]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:07</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 209 - Caroline Sumlin]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2023 21:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-209-caroline-sumlin</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Caroline Sumlin’s new book, We’ll All Be Free exposes how white supremacy affects everyone in its wake (by the way, that means all of us). White supremacy is interwoven into our society at a systemic level, but have you ever thought about how that translates to feelings of personal worth and well being? This conversation covers a lot of ground (her book covers even more)! I invite you to listen and think about these topics in your own context. How have you been affected by white supremacy and what can you do to combat its harm in your life? Healing … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-209-caroline-sumlin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 209 – Caroline Sumlin</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Caroline Sumlin’s new book, We’ll All Be Free exposes how white supremacy affects everyone in its wake (by the way, that means all of us). White supremacy is interwoven into our society at a systemic level, but have you ever thought about how that translates to feelings of personal worth and well being? This conversation covers a lot of ground (her book covers even more)! I invite you to listen and think about these topics in your own context. How have you been affected by white supremacy and what can you do to combat its harm in your life? Healing … Continue reading Episode 209 – Caroline Sumlin]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 209 - Caroline Sumlin]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Caroline Sumlin’s new book, We’ll All Be Free exposes how white supremacy affects everyone in its wake (by the way, that means all of us). White supremacy is interwoven into our society at a systemic level, but have you ever thought about how that translates to feelings of personal worth and well being? This conversation covers a lot of ground (her book covers even more)! I invite you to listen and think about these topics in your own context. How have you been affected by white supremacy and what can you do to combat its harm in your life? Healing … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-209-caroline-sumlin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 209 – Caroline Sumlin</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Caroline Sumlin’s new book, We’ll All Be Free exposes how white supremacy affects everyone in its wake (by the way, that means all of us). White supremacy is interwoven into our society at a systemic level, but have you ever thought about how that translates to feelings of personal worth and well being? This conversation covers a lot of ground (her book covers even more)! I invite you to listen and think about these topics in your own context. How have you been affected by white supremacy and what can you do to combat its harm in your life? Healing … Continue reading Episode 209 – Caroline Sumlin]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:05:53</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 208 - Adam Bucko]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2023 19:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-208-adam-bucko</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[The contemplative life is not one solely reserved for vocational clergy or people from religious traditions that may feel largely unfamiliar. As Adam Bucko amazingly writes, practices, and encourages, contemplation is for each of us. With each page turned in his newest book, Let Heartbreak Be Your Guide, I felt my spiritual and theological imagination … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-208-adam-bucko/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 208 – Adam Bucko</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[The contemplative life is not one solely reserved for vocational clergy or people from religious traditions that may feel largely unfamiliar. As Adam Bucko amazingly writes, practices, and encourages, contemplation is for each of us. With each page turned in his newest book, Let Heartbreak Be Your Guide, I felt my spiritual and theological imagination … Continue reading Episode 208 – Adam Bucko]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 208 - Adam Bucko]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The contemplative life is not one solely reserved for vocational clergy or people from religious traditions that may feel largely unfamiliar. As Adam Bucko amazingly writes, practices, and encourages, contemplation is for each of us. With each page turned in his newest book, Let Heartbreak Be Your Guide, I felt my spiritual and theological imagination … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-208-adam-bucko/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 208 – Adam Bucko</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The contemplative life is not one solely reserved for vocational clergy or people from religious traditions that may feel largely unfamiliar. As Adam Bucko amazingly writes, practices, and encourages, contemplation is for each of us. With each page turned in his newest book, Let Heartbreak Be Your Guide, I felt my spiritual and theological imagination … Continue reading Episode 208 – Adam Bucko]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:51:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 207 - Martin Doblmeier]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 16:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-207-martin-doblmeier</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[To say that the world (and us in it) are busy isn’t news. For centuries, some religious communities have found solace in the instruction to rest in the midst of busyness. Filmmaker, Martin Doblmeier, has captured some of these traditions in his newest film by Journey Films, Sabbath. In this project, Jewish and Christian scholars … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-207-martin-doblmeier/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 207 – Martin Doblmeier</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To say that the world (and us in it) are busy isn’t news. For centuries, some religious communities have found solace in the instruction to rest in the midst of busyness. Filmmaker, Martin Doblmeier, has captured some of these traditions in his newest film by Journey Films, Sabbath. In this project, Jewish and Christian scholars … Continue reading Episode 207 – Martin Doblmeier]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 207 - Martin Doblmeier]]>
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                    <![CDATA[To say that the world (and us in it) are busy isn’t news. For centuries, some religious communities have found solace in the instruction to rest in the midst of busyness. Filmmaker, Martin Doblmeier, has captured some of these traditions in his newest film by Journey Films, Sabbath. In this project, Jewish and Christian scholars … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-207-martin-doblmeier/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 207 – Martin Doblmeier</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/79eec8ea-030b-43e2-96f5-2b64b17162ea-207-Podcast-Episode-Martin-Doblmeier.mp3" length="85280698"
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                    <![CDATA[To say that the world (and us in it) are busy isn’t news. For centuries, some religious communities have found solace in the instruction to rest in the midst of busyness. Filmmaker, Martin Doblmeier, has captured some of these traditions in his newest film by Journey Films, Sabbath. In this project, Jewish and Christian scholars … Continue reading Episode 207 – Martin Doblmeier]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:13</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 206 - Kate Boyd]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2023 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-206-kate-boyd</link>
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                                            <![CDATA[I am so stoked to have Kate Boyd on the podcast! For anyone who is curious about the word “deconstruction,” is going through it, or knows someone who is – this conversation is for you! While Kate’s story of faith and mine have some overlap (primarily in the Bible Belt experiences), hers also includes interacting … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-206-kate-boyd/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 206 – Kate Boyd</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so stoked to have Kate Boyd on the podcast! For anyone who is curious about the word “deconstruction,” is going through it, or knows someone who is – this conversation is for you! While Kate’s story of faith and mine have some overlap (primarily in the Bible Belt experiences), hers also includes interacting … Continue reading Episode 206 – Kate Boyd]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 206 - Kate Boyd]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so stoked to have Kate Boyd on the podcast! For anyone who is curious about the word “deconstruction,” is going through it, or knows someone who is – this conversation is for you! While Kate’s story of faith and mine have some overlap (primarily in the Bible Belt experiences), hers also includes interacting … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-206-kate-boyd/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 206 – Kate Boyd</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/5ec32a78-3e4b-4128-8354-ee74ba249529-206-Podcast-Episode-Kate-Boyd.mp3" length="64840614"
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                    <![CDATA[I am so stoked to have Kate Boyd on the podcast! For anyone who is curious about the word “deconstruction,” is going through it, or knows someone who is – this conversation is for you! While Kate’s story of faith and mine have some overlap (primarily in the Bible Belt experiences), hers also includes interacting … Continue reading Episode 206 – Kate Boyd]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:01</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 205 - Karen Swallow Prior]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 00:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-205-karen-swallow-prior</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-205-karen-swallow-prior/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 205 – Karen Swallow Prior</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who … Continue reading Episode 205 – Karen Swallow Prior]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 205 - Karen Swallow Prior]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-205-karen-swallow-prior/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 205 – Karen Swallow Prior</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who … Continue reading Episode 205 – Karen Swallow Prior]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:58:22</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 204 - Kaitlyn Schiess]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2023 00:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1513115</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-204-kaitlyn-schiess</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I can’t tell you how excited I am to have Kaitlyn Schiess BACK on the podcast! (She was here for on Ep. 063 discussing her first book.) Her latest book, The Ballot and the Bible highlights how the Bible has been utilized in politics, for better or worse, over the course of our nation’s history. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-204-kaitlyn-schiess/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 204 – Kaitlyn Schiess</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[I can’t tell you how excited I am to have Kaitlyn Schiess BACK on the podcast! (She was here for on Ep. 063 discussing her first book.) Her latest book, The Ballot and the Bible highlights how the Bible has been utilized in politics, for better or worse, over the course of our nation’s history. … Continue reading Episode 204 – Kaitlyn Schiess]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 204 - Kaitlyn Schiess]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I can’t tell you how excited I am to have Kaitlyn Schiess BACK on the podcast! (She was here for on Ep. 063 discussing her first book.) Her latest book, The Ballot and the Bible highlights how the Bible has been utilized in politics, for better or worse, over the course of our nation’s history. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-204-kaitlyn-schiess/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 204 – Kaitlyn Schiess</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/faef3a2e-e797-4212-a9c6-2ea527cbb4c7-204-Podcast-Episode-Kaitlyn-Schiess.mp3" length="81900245"
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                    <![CDATA[I can’t tell you how excited I am to have Kaitlyn Schiess BACK on the podcast! (She was here for on Ep. 063 discussing her first book.) Her latest book, The Ballot and the Bible highlights how the Bible has been utilized in politics, for better or worse, over the course of our nation’s history. … Continue reading Episode 204 – Kaitlyn Schiess]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:52</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 203 - Ally Henny]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/ep-203-ally-henny</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[My guest this week is no stranger to the mic – Ally Henny is on the podcast! Ally’s book, I Won’t Shut Up, is incredible and I am so grateful for her generosity to share her story. Written with Black women in mind, Ally recounts her experiences and what she has learned about the world, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-203-ally-henny/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 203 – Ally Henny</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[My guest this week is no stranger to the mic – Ally Henny is on the podcast! Ally’s book, I Won’t Shut Up, is incredible and I am so grateful for her generosity to share her story. Written with Black women in mind, Ally recounts her experiences and what she has learned about the world, … Continue reading Ep. 203 – Ally Henny]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Ep. 203 - Ally Henny]]>
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                    <![CDATA[My guest this week is no stranger to the mic – Ally Henny is on the podcast! Ally’s book, I Won’t Shut Up, is incredible and I am so grateful for her generosity to share her story. Written with Black women in mind, Ally recounts her experiences and what she has learned about the world, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-203-ally-henny/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 203 – Ally Henny</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/12b4d97d-1220-4f53-a122-8d6176138929-203-Podcast-Episode-Ally-Henny.mp3" length="125502583"
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[My guest this week is no stranger to the mic – Ally Henny is on the podcast! Ally’s book, I Won’t Shut Up, is incredible and I am so grateful for her generosity to share her story. Written with Black women in mind, Ally recounts her experiences and what she has learned about the world, … Continue reading Ep. 203 – Ally Henny]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                    <itunes:image href="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/images/1509819/1688398743-Podcast-Episode-203.png"></itunes:image>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:27:09</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 202 - John Blake]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1505831</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-202-john-blake</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[CNN journalist John Blake is on the podcast! His newest book, More Than I Imagined, tells his personal story. John is bi-racial, the son of a Black father and a White mother he grew up not knowing anything about. For a man who has been reporting on race for decades (and by his own admission … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-202-john-blake/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 202 – John Blake</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[CNN journalist John Blake is on the podcast! His newest book, More Than I Imagined, tells his personal story. John is bi-racial, the son of a Black father and a White mother he grew up not knowing anything about. For a man who has been reporting on race for decades (and by his own admission … Continue reading Episode 202 – John Blake]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 202 - John Blake]]>
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                    <![CDATA[CNN journalist John Blake is on the podcast! His newest book, More Than I Imagined, tells his personal story. John is bi-racial, the son of a Black father and a White mother he grew up not knowing anything about. For a man who has been reporting on race for decades (and by his own admission … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-202-john-blake/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 202 – John Blake</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/ad0f022c-460f-47ee-aad5-8ce499603bec-202-Podcast-Episode-John-Blake.mp3" length="73283598"
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                    <![CDATA[CNN journalist John Blake is on the podcast! His newest book, More Than I Imagined, tells his personal story. John is bi-racial, the son of a Black father and a White mother he grew up not knowing anything about. For a man who has been reporting on race for decades (and by his own admission … Continue reading Episode 202 – John Blake]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                    <itunes:image href="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/images/1505831/1687737182-Podcast-Episode-202.png"></itunes:image>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:50:53</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 201 - Terence Lester]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2023 01:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1498715</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-201-terence-lester</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to have the newly declared Dr. Terence Lester back on the podcast (if you missed his first episode, we’ve got you covered!). Terence has written a beautiful book on racial solidarity through the lens of his own experience as someone who was unhoused for a season and his work for over … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-201-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 201 – Terence Lester</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to have the newly declared Dr. Terence Lester back on the podcast (if you missed his first episode, we’ve got you covered!). Terence has written a beautiful book on racial solidarity through the lens of his own experience as someone who was unhoused for a season and his work for over … Continue reading Episode 201 – Terence Lester]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 201 - Terence Lester]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to have the newly declared Dr. Terence Lester back on the podcast (if you missed his first episode, we’ve got you covered!). Terence has written a beautiful book on racial solidarity through the lens of his own experience as someone who was unhoused for a season and his work for over … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-201-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 201 – Terence Lester</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/1c8aff7d-6302-43ea-9bfb-09bcfe61e66f-201-Podcast-Episode-Terence-Lester.mp3" length="87725760"
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[I am so thrilled to have the newly declared Dr. Terence Lester back on the podcast (if you missed his first episode, we’ve got you covered!). Terence has written a beautiful book on racial solidarity through the lens of his own experience as someone who was unhoused for a season and his work for over … Continue reading Episode 201 – Terence Lester]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                    <itunes:image href="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/images/1498715/1687140593-Podcast-Episode-201.png"></itunes:image>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:00:55</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 200 - Jack Sara]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1495396</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-200-jack-sara</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Jack Sara is the President of Bethlehem Bible College. I met Jack on what was my 8th (?) trip to the Holy Land, but only my first trip to Palestine. If you think about it (and we mention it a bit in the episode), that fact alone is pretty remarkable. That someone could … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-200-jack-sara/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 200 – Jack Sara</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Jack Sara is the President of Bethlehem Bible College. I met Jack on what was my 8th (?) trip to the Holy Land, but only my first trip to Palestine. If you think about it (and we mention it a bit in the episode), that fact alone is pretty remarkable. That someone could … Continue reading Episode 200 – Jack Sara]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 200 - Jack Sara]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                    <![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Jack Sara is the President of Bethlehem Bible College. I met Jack on what was my 8th (?) trip to the Holy Land, but only my first trip to Palestine. If you think about it (and we mention it a bit in the episode), that fact alone is pretty remarkable. That someone could … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-200-jack-sara/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 200 – Jack Sara</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/75d8928a-2a9b-4d51-8c4f-9a42566c3333-200-Podcast-Episode-Jack-Sara.mp3" length="67602279"
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                    <![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Jack Sara is the President of Bethlehem Bible College. I met Jack on what was my 8th (?) trip to the Holy Land, but only my first trip to Palestine. If you think about it (and we mention it a bit in the episode), that fact alone is pretty remarkable. That someone could … Continue reading Episode 200 – Jack Sara]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                    <itunes:image href="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/images/1495396/1686582049-Podcast-Episode-200.png"></itunes:image>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:46:56</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 199 - Dorcas Cheng-Tozun]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 10:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1490775</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-199-dorcas-cheng-tozun</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[You know that feeling when you’ve been able to sense something for a while and then someone gives you language for that thing? This is exactly what happened to me when I read Dorcas Cheng-Tozun’s new book! In Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul, Dorcas helps those of us who might be Highly Sensitive People … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-199-dorcas-cheng-tozun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 199 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[You know that feeling when you’ve been able to sense something for a while and then someone gives you language for that thing? This is exactly what happened to me when I read Dorcas Cheng-Tozun’s new book! In Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul, Dorcas helps those of us who might be Highly Sensitive People … Continue reading Episode 199 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 199 - Dorcas Cheng-Tozun]]>
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                    <![CDATA[You know that feeling when you’ve been able to sense something for a while and then someone gives you language for that thing? This is exactly what happened to me when I read Dorcas Cheng-Tozun’s new book! In Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul, Dorcas helps those of us who might be Highly Sensitive People … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-199-dorcas-cheng-tozun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 199 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/ba3648aa-d7fb-47a3-8f7a-9d795a0fd40d-199-Podcast-Episode-Dorcas-Cheng-Tozun.mp3" length="65332760"
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                    <![CDATA[You know that feeling when you’ve been able to sense something for a while and then someone gives you language for that thing? This is exactly what happened to me when I read Dorcas Cheng-Tozun’s new book! In Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul, Dorcas helps those of us who might be Highly Sensitive People … Continue reading Episode 199 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                    <itunes:image href="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/images/1490775/1685961432-Podcast-Episode-199.png"></itunes:image>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:45:22</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 198 - Jen Rosner]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2023 23:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1486588</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-198-jen-rosner</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-198-jen-rosner/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 198 – Jen Rosner</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and … Continue reading Episode 198 – Jen Rosner]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 198 - Jen Rosner]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                    <![CDATA[It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-198-jen-rosner/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 198 – Jen Rosner</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/65197e23-4fe4-407a-82c2-6987b735a792-198-Podcast-Episode-Jen-Rosner.mp3" length="104538377"
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and … Continue reading Episode 198 – Jen Rosner]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:12:35</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 197 - Alexis Busetti]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2023 20:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1483015</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-197-alexis-busetti</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Just a short little sermon on the center part of the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus gives us quite a few “do not” statements on giving, praying, and fasting. Thankfully, he doesn’t leave the discussion there though. Because he’s a good teacher, he also gives us some “how to” examples. There’s also talk of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-197-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 197 – Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Just a short little sermon on the center part of the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus gives us quite a few “do not” statements on giving, praying, and fasting. Thankfully, he doesn’t leave the discussion there though. Because he’s a good teacher, he also gives us some “how to” examples. There’s also talk of … Continue reading Episode 197 – Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 197 - Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                    <![CDATA[Just a short little sermon on the center part of the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus gives us quite a few “do not” statements on giving, praying, and fasting. Thankfully, he doesn’t leave the discussion there though. Because he’s a good teacher, he also gives us some “how to” examples. There’s also talk of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-197-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 197 – Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/f96f17c8-d6c5-4e22-9bb6-20d9fa8847df-197-Podcast-Episode-Alexis-Busetti.mp3" length="32909368"
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                    <![CDATA[Just a short little sermon on the center part of the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus gives us quite a few “do not” statements on giving, praying, and fasting. Thankfully, he doesn’t leave the discussion there though. Because he’s a good teacher, he also gives us some “how to” examples. There’s also talk of … Continue reading Episode 197 – Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                    <itunes:image href="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/images/1483015/Podcast-Episode-197.png"></itunes:image>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:22:51</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 196 - Jon Ward]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2023 00:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
                <guid isPermaLink="true">
                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1477353</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-196-jon-ward</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-196-jon-ward/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 196 – Jon Ward</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about … Continue reading Episode 196 – Jon Ward]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 196 - Jon Ward]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-196-jon-ward/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 196 – Jon Ward</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/06622721-4a00-4811-9f73-1d6c658cc656-196-Podcast-Episode-Jon-Ward.mp3" length="97787500"
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about … Continue reading Episode 196 – Jon Ward]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:07:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 195 - Tasha Jun]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2023 00:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[I had a fabulous time talking with Tasha Jun! She has written an incredible memoir called Tell Me the Dream Again. Tasha’s experiences as a biracial woman often made a challenge, including in Christian spaces. As you’ll hear in our conversation, as a mixed Hispanic woman, I can totally relate to much of what Tasha … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-195-tasha-jun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 195 – Tasha Jun</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I had a fabulous time talking with Tasha Jun! She has written an incredible memoir called Tell Me the Dream Again. Tasha’s experiences as a biracial woman often made a challenge, including in Christian spaces. As you’ll hear in our conversation, as a mixed Hispanic woman, I can totally relate to much of what Tasha … Continue reading Episode 195 – Tasha Jun]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 195 - Tasha Jun]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I had a fabulous time talking with Tasha Jun! She has written an incredible memoir called Tell Me the Dream Again. Tasha’s experiences as a biracial woman often made a challenge, including in Christian spaces. As you’ll hear in our conversation, as a mixed Hispanic woman, I can totally relate to much of what Tasha … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-195-tasha-jun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 195 – Tasha Jun</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I had a fabulous time talking with Tasha Jun! She has written an incredible memoir called Tell Me the Dream Again. Tasha’s experiences as a biracial woman often made a challenge, including in Christian spaces. As you’ll hear in our conversation, as a mixed Hispanic woman, I can totally relate to much of what Tasha … Continue reading Episode 195 – Tasha Jun]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:46:53</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 194 - David Taylor]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2023 11:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-194-david-taylor</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[It was such a joy to speak with Dr. David Taylor! Every time I get to speak with him (he’s a professor at Fuller, btw), I come away feeling encouraged in the Lord and ready to explore some new way of interacting with my own faith. This conversation was no different! We talked about his … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-194-david-taylor/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 194 – David Taylor</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[It was such a joy to speak with Dr. David Taylor! Every time I get to speak with him (he’s a professor at Fuller, btw), I come away feeling encouraged in the Lord and ready to explore some new way of interacting with my own faith. This conversation was no different! We talked about his … Continue reading Episode 194 – David Taylor]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 194 - David Taylor]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was such a joy to speak with Dr. David Taylor! Every time I get to speak with him (he’s a professor at Fuller, btw), I come away feeling encouraged in the Lord and ready to explore some new way of interacting with my own faith. This conversation was no different! We talked about his … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-194-david-taylor/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 194 – David Taylor</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It was such a joy to speak with Dr. David Taylor! Every time I get to speak with him (he’s a professor at Fuller, btw), I come away feeling encouraged in the Lord and ready to explore some new way of interacting with my own faith. This conversation was no different! We talked about his … Continue reading Episode 194 – David Taylor]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:04:49</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 193 - Robert Chao Romero]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 00:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-193-robert-chao-romero</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Robert Chao Romero is back! (In case you missed him the first time around, you’ll wanna catch up on that one!) This time Robert and I talk about the new book just released with his co-author, Jeff Liou, Christianity and Critical Race Theory. As referenced in our conversation (like when Robert read a not-so-nice Twitter … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-193-robert-chao-romero/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 193 – Robert Chao Romero</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Robert Chao Romero is back! (In case you missed him the first time around, you’ll wanna catch up on that one!) This time Robert and I talk about the new book just released with his co-author, Jeff Liou, Christianity and Critical Race Theory. As referenced in our conversation (like when Robert read a not-so-nice Twitter … Continue reading Episode 193 – Robert Chao Romero]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 193 - Robert Chao Romero]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Robert Chao Romero is back! (In case you missed him the first time around, you’ll wanna catch up on that one!) This time Robert and I talk about the new book just released with his co-author, Jeff Liou, Christianity and Critical Race Theory. As referenced in our conversation (like when Robert read a not-so-nice Twitter … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-193-robert-chao-romero/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 193 – Robert Chao Romero</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Robert Chao Romero is back! (In case you missed him the first time around, you’ll wanna catch up on that one!) This time Robert and I talk about the new book just released with his co-author, Jeff Liou, Christianity and Critical Race Theory. As referenced in our conversation (like when Robert read a not-so-nice Twitter … Continue reading Episode 193 – Robert Chao Romero]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:03:36</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 192 - David Lamb]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-192-david-lamb</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Dr. David Lamb is a biblical scholar and professor at Missio Seminary. His most recent book, The Emotions of God, is the topic of our discussion for this episode. As noted in the brief intro to our conversation, there are places where David and I don’t see eye to eye and that’s okay. The subjects … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-192-david-lamb/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 192 – David Lamb</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Dr. David Lamb is a biblical scholar and professor at Missio Seminary. His most recent book, The Emotions of God, is the topic of our discussion for this episode. As noted in the brief intro to our conversation, there are places where David and I don’t see eye to eye and that’s okay. The subjects … Continue reading Episode 192 – David Lamb]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 192 - David Lamb]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. David Lamb is a biblical scholar and professor at Missio Seminary. His most recent book, The Emotions of God, is the topic of our discussion for this episode. As noted in the brief intro to our conversation, there are places where David and I don’t see eye to eye and that’s okay. The subjects … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-192-david-lamb/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 192 – David Lamb</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Dr. David Lamb is a biblical scholar and professor at Missio Seminary. His most recent book, The Emotions of God, is the topic of our discussion for this episode. As noted in the brief intro to our conversation, there are places where David and I don’t see eye to eye and that’s okay. The subjects … Continue reading Episode 192 – David Lamb]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:11:24</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 191 - Alexis Busetti]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 00:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-191-alexis-busetti</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Happy Resurrection Day! Thanks for joining me as I offer a short homily on Luke 24:1-12. This is one of the gospel passages that describes the women and the other disciples’ discovery that the tomb where they expected to find Jesus was empty on Sunday morning! If you’ve ever been left like them, wondering what … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-191-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 191 – Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Happy Resurrection Day! Thanks for joining me as I offer a short homily on Luke 24:1-12. This is one of the gospel passages that describes the women and the other disciples’ discovery that the tomb where they expected to find Jesus was empty on Sunday morning! If you’ve ever been left like them, wondering what … Continue reading Episode 191 – Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 191 - Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Happy Resurrection Day! Thanks for joining me as I offer a short homily on Luke 24:1-12. This is one of the gospel passages that describes the women and the other disciples’ discovery that the tomb where they expected to find Jesus was empty on Sunday morning! If you’ve ever been left like them, wondering what … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-191-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 191 – Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/d0fe643e-6768-4216-bfd9-b01b0003db06-191-Podcast-Episode-Alexis-Busetti.mp3" length="16285459"
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                    <![CDATA[Happy Resurrection Day! Thanks for joining me as I offer a short homily on Luke 24:1-12. This is one of the gospel passages that describes the women and the other disciples’ discovery that the tomb where they expected to find Jesus was empty on Sunday morning! If you’ve ever been left like them, wondering what … Continue reading Episode 191 – Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:11:18</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 190 - Lyndsey Medford]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 01:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1451016</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-190-lyndsey-medford</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[One of the areas I have found myself exploring more in the past few years is the theology of disability. What does it mean to be embodied? What does it look like when we come to terms with the fact that most of us will face disability in our lifetimes? How do we experience God … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-190-lyndsey-medford/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 190 – Lyndsey Medford</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[One of the areas I have found myself exploring more in the past few years is the theology of disability. What does it mean to be embodied? What does it look like when we come to terms with the fact that most of us will face disability in our lifetimes? How do we experience God … Continue reading Episode 190 – Lyndsey Medford]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 190 - Lyndsey Medford]]>
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                    <![CDATA[One of the areas I have found myself exploring more in the past few years is the theology of disability. What does it mean to be embodied? What does it look like when we come to terms with the fact that most of us will face disability in our lifetimes? How do we experience God … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-190-lyndsey-medford/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 190 – Lyndsey Medford</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/afc2cd18-090c-4d5f-9604-b5b036031283-190-Podcast-Episode-Lyndsey-Medford.mp3" length="87632346"
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                    <![CDATA[One of the areas I have found myself exploring more in the past few years is the theology of disability. What does it mean to be embodied? What does it look like when we come to terms with the fact that most of us will face disability in our lifetimes? How do we experience God … Continue reading Episode 190 – Lyndsey Medford]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:00:51</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 189 - Nijay Gupta]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-189-nijay-gupta</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This conversation had me feeling both excited and a bit nervous. Nijay Gupta, who is gracious in every way, has written a new book on the ministry of women in the early church and historically, this subject has been a sensitive one for me. Maybe like you, I was discipled in a tradition that held … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-189-nijay-gupta/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 189 – Nijay Gupta</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This conversation had me feeling both excited and a bit nervous. Nijay Gupta, who is gracious in every way, has written a new book on the ministry of women in the early church and historically, this subject has been a sensitive one for me. Maybe like you, I was discipled in a tradition that held … Continue reading Episode 189 – Nijay Gupta]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 189 - Nijay Gupta]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation had me feeling both excited and a bit nervous. Nijay Gupta, who is gracious in every way, has written a new book on the ministry of women in the early church and historically, this subject has been a sensitive one for me. Maybe like you, I was discipled in a tradition that held … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-189-nijay-gupta/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 189 – Nijay Gupta</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/e0e32197-21fe-4f3d-9a18-4cd1c255c098-189-Podcast-Episode-Nijay-Gupta.mp3" length="88050514"
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation had me feeling both excited and a bit nervous. Nijay Gupta, who is gracious in every way, has written a new book on the ministry of women in the early church and historically, this subject has been a sensitive one for me. Maybe like you, I was discipled in a tradition that held … Continue reading Episode 189 – Nijay Gupta]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:01:08</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
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                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 188 - Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2023 01:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/2609/episode/1440215</guid>
                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-188-jasmine-bellamy-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[In 2021, my amazing friend, Jasmine Bellamy, was named in Sports Illustrated’s series Elle-evate: 100 Influential Black Women in Sports! She works with Reebok as the lead for the U.S. Direct to Consumer department and as the Head of Change Management for Reebok’s United Against Racism. In that role, Jasmine has initiated Courageous Conversations as a … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-188-jasmine-bellamy-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 188 – Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
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                    <![CDATA[In 2021, my amazing friend, Jasmine Bellamy, was named in Sports Illustrated’s series Elle-evate: 100 Influential Black Women in Sports! She works with Reebok as the lead for the U.S. Direct to Consumer department and as the Head of Change Management for Reebok’s United Against Racism. In that role, Jasmine has initiated Courageous Conversations as a … Continue reading Episode 188 – Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 188 - Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In 2021, my amazing friend, Jasmine Bellamy, was named in Sports Illustrated’s series Elle-evate: 100 Influential Black Women in Sports! She works with Reebok as the lead for the U.S. Direct to Consumer department and as the Head of Change Management for Reebok’s United Against Racism. In that role, Jasmine has initiated Courageous Conversations as a … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-188-jasmine-bellamy-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 188 – Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/d5b08d71-948e-44fe-aa27-cd4627e5cb46-188-Podcast-Episode-Jasmine-Bellamy-2.mp3" length="89513789"
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                    <![CDATA[In 2021, my amazing friend, Jasmine Bellamy, was named in Sports Illustrated’s series Elle-evate: 100 Influential Black Women in Sports! She works with Reebok as the lead for the U.S. Direct to Consumer department and as the Head of Change Management for Reebok’s United Against Racism. In that role, Jasmine has initiated Courageous Conversations as a … Continue reading Episode 188 – Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:02:09</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 187 - Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-187-natalia-kohn-rivera-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Natalia Kohn Rivera is a pastor with InterVarsity’s LeFe ministry and co-author of Hermanas. This beautiful book takes the journeys of 12 biblical women and explores them through the lenses of Latina women. In this conversation, Natalia and I discuss the importance of our ethnic identities and our faith as well as what it means to see … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-187-natalia-kohn-rivera-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 187 – Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Natalia Kohn Rivera is a pastor with InterVarsity’s LeFe ministry and co-author of Hermanas. This beautiful book takes the journeys of 12 biblical women and explores them through the lenses of Latina women. In this conversation, Natalia and I discuss the importance of our ethnic identities and our faith as well as what it means to see … Continue reading Episode 187 – Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 187 - Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Natalia Kohn Rivera is a pastor with InterVarsity’s LeFe ministry and co-author of Hermanas. This beautiful book takes the journeys of 12 biblical women and explores them through the lenses of Latina women. In this conversation, Natalia and I discuss the importance of our ethnic identities and our faith as well as what it means to see … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-187-natalia-kohn-rivera-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 187 – Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Natalia Kohn Rivera is a pastor with InterVarsity’s LeFe ministry and co-author of Hermanas. This beautiful book takes the journeys of 12 biblical women and explores them through the lenses of Latina women. In this conversation, Natalia and I discuss the importance of our ethnic identities and our faith as well as what it means to see … Continue reading Episode 187 – Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:57:39</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <item>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 186 - Caryn Reeder]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 01:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-186-caryn-reeder/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 186 – Caryn Reeder</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it … Continue reading Episode 186 – Caryn Reeder]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 186 - Caryn Reeder]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-186-caryn-reeder/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 186 – Caryn Reeder</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it … Continue reading Episode 186 – Caryn Reeder]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:04:26</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 185 - Kyle Meyaard-Schaap]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 01:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-185-kyle-meyaard-schaap</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[A conversation on climate change straight from Texas! I am so grateful to Kyle Meyaard-Schaap for joining me on the podcast and for writing his awesome new book, Following Jesus in a Warming World. Like Kyle, I grew up inside a cultural context that largely did not encourage Christians to care about the environment. But … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-185-kyle-meyaard-schaap/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 185 – Kyle Meyaard-Schaap</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[A conversation on climate change straight from Texas! I am so grateful to Kyle Meyaard-Schaap for joining me on the podcast and for writing his awesome new book, Following Jesus in a Warming World. Like Kyle, I grew up inside a cultural context that largely did not encourage Christians to care about the environment. But … Continue reading Episode 185 – Kyle Meyaard-Schaap]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 185 - Kyle Meyaard-Schaap]]>
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                    <![CDATA[A conversation on climate change straight from Texas! I am so grateful to Kyle Meyaard-Schaap for joining me on the podcast and for writing his awesome new book, Following Jesus in a Warming World. Like Kyle, I grew up inside a cultural context that largely did not encourage Christians to care about the environment. But … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-185-kyle-meyaard-schaap/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 185 – Kyle Meyaard-Schaap</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/92f14893-c816-4d6f-9666-5422d479fb60-185-Podcast-Episode-Kyle-Meyaard-Shaap.mp3" length="87167784"
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                    <![CDATA[A conversation on climate change straight from Texas! I am so grateful to Kyle Meyaard-Schaap for joining me on the podcast and for writing his awesome new book, Following Jesus in a Warming World. Like Kyle, I grew up inside a cultural context that largely did not encourage Christians to care about the environment. But … Continue reading Episode 185 – Kyle Meyaard-Schaap]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:00:31</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 184 - Drew Jackson]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-184-drew-jackson</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[I am so stoked to welcome Drew Jackson back to the podcast! His first book, and this volume two are some of my favorite books of poetry. What Drew has done by putting the Gospel of Luke in conversation with his own context is theological art at its finest. The problem is, this kind of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-184-drew-jackson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 184 – Drew Jackson</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[I am so stoked to welcome Drew Jackson back to the podcast! His first book, and this volume two are some of my favorite books of poetry. What Drew has done by putting the Gospel of Luke in conversation with his own context is theological art at its finest. The problem is, this kind of … Continue reading Episode 184 – Drew Jackson]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 184 - Drew Jackson]]>
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                    <![CDATA[I am so stoked to welcome Drew Jackson back to the podcast! His first book, and this volume two are some of my favorite books of poetry. What Drew has done by putting the Gospel of Luke in conversation with his own context is theological art at its finest. The problem is, this kind of … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-184-drew-jackson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 184 – Drew Jackson</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/c7c9b7b0-0ef9-4fdc-8ea4-25c0f845af26-184-Podcast-Episode-Drew-Jackson-2.mp3" length="104246223"
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                    <![CDATA[I am so stoked to welcome Drew Jackson back to the podcast! His first book, and this volume two are some of my favorite books of poetry. What Drew has done by putting the Gospel of Luke in conversation with his own context is theological art at its finest. The problem is, this kind of … Continue reading Episode 184 – Drew Jackson]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:12:23</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 183 - Bekah McNeel]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 02:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-183-bekah-mcneel</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Bekah and I had a fabulous conversation (she’s hilarious, btw!) about her book Bringing Up Kids When the Church Lets You Down. But trust me, if you’re not a parent….don’t flip to the next episode in your queue just yet! This conversation is for anyone whose life and faith have been impacted by the church, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-183-bekah-mcneel/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 183 – Bekah McNeel</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Bekah and I had a fabulous conversation (she’s hilarious, btw!) about her book Bringing Up Kids When the Church Lets You Down. But trust me, if you’re not a parent….don’t flip to the next episode in your queue just yet! This conversation is for anyone whose life and faith have been impacted by the church, … Continue reading Episode 183 – Bekah McNeel]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 183 - Bekah McNeel]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Bekah and I had a fabulous conversation (she’s hilarious, btw!) about her book Bringing Up Kids When the Church Lets You Down. But trust me, if you’re not a parent….don’t flip to the next episode in your queue just yet! This conversation is for anyone whose life and faith have been impacted by the church, … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-183-bekah-mcneel/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 183 – Bekah McNeel</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/4ff07619-1a9d-4e6b-a8ac-0d40db8823bf-183-Podcast-Episode-Bekah-McNeel.mp3" length="120616222"
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                    <![CDATA[Bekah and I had a fabulous conversation (she’s hilarious, btw!) about her book Bringing Up Kids When the Church Lets You Down. But trust me, if you’re not a parent….don’t flip to the next episode in your queue just yet! This conversation is for anyone whose life and faith have been impacted by the church, … Continue reading Episode 183 – Bekah McNeel]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                    <itunes:image href="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/images/1410329/Podcast-Episode-183.png"></itunes:image>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:23:45</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 182 - Jenny Booth Potter]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 00:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-182-jenny-booth-potter</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This conversation with Jenny Booth Potter was so rich and full! Jenny’s story is particular to her own experiences and circumstances and familiar to many of us at the same time, especially if we grew up inside white, American evangelicalism. She brings to light the reality that racism, as Beverly Tatum states, is a moving … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-182-jenny-booth-potter/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 182 – Jenny Booth Potter</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Jenny Booth Potter was so rich and full! Jenny’s story is particular to her own experiences and circumstances and familiar to many of us at the same time, especially if we grew up inside white, American evangelicalism. She brings to light the reality that racism, as Beverly Tatum states, is a moving … Continue reading Episode 182 – Jenny Booth Potter]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 182 - Jenny Booth Potter]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Jenny Booth Potter was so rich and full! Jenny’s story is particular to her own experiences and circumstances and familiar to many of us at the same time, especially if we grew up inside white, American evangelicalism. She brings to light the reality that racism, as Beverly Tatum states, is a moving … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-182-jenny-booth-potter/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 182 – Jenny Booth Potter</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/7e892d7f-dfc4-4482-8f63-c658c3f9507b-182-Podcast-Episode-Jenny-Potter.mp3" length="113279784"
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                    <![CDATA[This conversation with Jenny Booth Potter was so rich and full! Jenny’s story is particular to her own experiences and circumstances and familiar to many of us at the same time, especially if we grew up inside white, American evangelicalism. She brings to light the reality that racism, as Beverly Tatum states, is a moving … Continue reading Episode 182 – Jenny Booth Potter]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:18:39</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 181 - Craig Greenfield]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 23:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-181-craig-greenfield</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[Craig Greenfield joins me on the podcast to talk about something I’ve been processing lately – missions. Specifically, Craig has written a book called Subversive Mission on how to serve well as outsiders. In the history of Christianity, Western missionary work has often equaled colonialism, and we need to be aware of how we still … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-181-craig-greenfield/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 181 – Craig Greenfield</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[Craig Greenfield joins me on the podcast to talk about something I’ve been processing lately – missions. Specifically, Craig has written a book called Subversive Mission on how to serve well as outsiders. In the history of Christianity, Western missionary work has often equaled colonialism, and we need to be aware of how we still … Continue reading Episode 181 – Craig Greenfield]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 181 - Craig Greenfield]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Craig Greenfield joins me on the podcast to talk about something I’ve been processing lately – missions. Specifically, Craig has written a book called Subversive Mission on how to serve well as outsiders. In the history of Christianity, Western missionary work has often equaled colonialism, and we need to be aware of how we still … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-181-craig-greenfield/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 181 – Craig Greenfield</span></a>]]>
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                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/a5fac753-1751-4adb-9031-77503523db80-181-Podcast-Episode-Craig-Greenfield.mp3" length="84458782"
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                    <![CDATA[Craig Greenfield joins me on the podcast to talk about something I’ve been processing lately – missions. Specifically, Craig has written a book called Subversive Mission on how to serve well as outsiders. In the history of Christianity, Western missionary work has often equaled colonialism, and we need to be aware of how we still … Continue reading Episode 181 – Craig Greenfield]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                    <itunes:image href="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/images/1393766/Podcast-Episode-181.png"></itunes:image>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:58:39</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 180 - Sara Billups]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-180-sara-billups</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[The story Sara Billups shares in Orphaned Believers is her own and in a way, it’s mine too. It might also be yours if you were a child of the 1980’s and 1990’s growing up anywhere near white American evangelicalism. She writes (and we chat) about how she was shaped by teachings on the end … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-180-sara-billups/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 180 – Sara Billups</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[The story Sara Billups shares in Orphaned Believers is her own and in a way, it’s mine too. It might also be yours if you were a child of the 1980’s and 1990’s growing up anywhere near white American evangelicalism. She writes (and we chat) about how she was shaped by teachings on the end … Continue reading Episode 180 – Sara Billups]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 180 - Sara Billups]]>
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                    <![CDATA[The story Sara Billups shares in Orphaned Believers is her own and in a way, it’s mine too. It might also be yours if you were a child of the 1980’s and 1990’s growing up anywhere near white American evangelicalism. She writes (and we chat) about how she was shaped by teachings on the end … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-180-sara-billups/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 180 – Sara Billups</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/21140a7c-35f1-45d3-b7e0-3d45fd0c8dc9-180-Podcast-Episode-Sarah-Billups.mp3" length="80867676"
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                    <![CDATA[The story Sara Billups shares in Orphaned Believers is her own and in a way, it’s mine too. It might also be yours if you were a child of the 1980’s and 1990’s growing up anywhere near white American evangelicalism. She writes (and we chat) about how she was shaped by teachings on the end … Continue reading Episode 180 – Sara Billups]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:09</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
                                                            </item>
                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 179 - Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                    <link>https://that-makes-total-sense.castos.com/episodes/episode-179-ashlee-eiland-re-release</link>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author Ashlee Eiland and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI where Delwin leads worship and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-179-ashlee-eiland-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author Ashlee Eiland and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI where Delwin leads worship and … Continue reading Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 179 - Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:title>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author Ashlee Eiland and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI where Delwin leads worship and … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-179-ashlee-eiland-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
                </content:encoded>
                                    <enclosure url="https://episodes.castos.com/thatmakestotalsense/36625e96-2534-4650-a673-29e15cd9ba20-179-Podcast-Episode-Ashlee-Eiland-2.mp3" length="78940467"
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                    <![CDATA[This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author Ashlee Eiland and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI where Delwin leads worship and … Continue reading Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)]]>
                </itunes:summary>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:54:49</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
                </itunes:author>
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                    <item>
                <title>
                    <![CDATA[Episode 178 - Beth Birmingham & Eeva Sallinen Simard]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2023 23:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[It’s not every day that so much wisdom and experience is found in one place, but today is that day! Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard have decades of combined experience in working in and with faith-based organizations. It is because of their commitment in these spaces that they are doing everything they can to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-178-beth-birmingham-eeva-sallinen-simard/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 178 – Beth Birmingham &amp; Eeva Sallinen Simard</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s not every day that so much wisdom and experience is found in one place, but today is that day! Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard have decades of combined experience in working in and with faith-based organizations. It is because of their commitment in these spaces that they are doing everything they can to … Continue reading Episode 178 – Beth Birmingham & Eeva Sallinen Simard]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 178 - Beth Birmingham & Eeva Sallinen Simard]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s not every day that so much wisdom and experience is found in one place, but today is that day! Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard have decades of combined experience in working in and with faith-based organizations. It is because of their commitment in these spaces that they are doing everything they can to … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-178-beth-birmingham-eeva-sallinen-simard/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 178 – Beth Birmingham &amp; Eeva Sallinen Simard</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[It’s not every day that so much wisdom and experience is found in one place, but today is that day! Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard have decades of combined experience in working in and with faith-based organizations. It is because of their commitment in these spaces that they are doing everything they can to … Continue reading Episode 178 – Beth Birmingham & Eeva Sallinen Simard]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 177 - Michelle Ferrigno Warren]]>
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                <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2023 21:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[We’re back with a brand-new episode to begin the new year! Michelle Ferrigno Warren has been involved in justice work for decades and her wisdom is priceless. In her newest book, Join the Resistance, she speaks to those of us who are interested in becoming more involved, but may not know exactly where to start. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-177-michelle-ferrigno-warren/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 177 – Michelle Ferrigno Warren</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’re back with a brand-new episode to begin the new year! Michelle Ferrigno Warren has been involved in justice work for decades and her wisdom is priceless. In her newest book, Join the Resistance, she speaks to those of us who are interested in becoming more involved, but may not know exactly where to start. … Continue reading Episode 177 – Michelle Ferrigno Warren]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 177 - Michelle Ferrigno Warren]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’re back with a brand-new episode to begin the new year! Michelle Ferrigno Warren has been involved in justice work for decades and her wisdom is priceless. In her newest book, Join the Resistance, she speaks to those of us who are interested in becoming more involved, but may not know exactly where to start. … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-177-michelle-ferrigno-warren/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 177 – Michelle Ferrigno Warren</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[We’re back with a brand-new episode to begin the new year! Michelle Ferrigno Warren has been involved in justice work for decades and her wisdom is priceless. In her newest book, Join the Resistance, she speaks to those of us who are interested in becoming more involved, but may not know exactly where to start. … Continue reading Episode 177 – Michelle Ferrigno Warren]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:14:38</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 176 - Sarah Quezada (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 15:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[On this day after Christmas, I am so excited to bring you this re-release from December 20, 2021. This beautiful conversation with Sarah Quezada reminds us of the many ways we live in the tension of the now and not yet as citizens of God’s kingdom. Sarah Quezada, author of Love Undocumented joins me on … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-176-sarah-quezada-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 176 – Sarah Quezada (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On this day after Christmas, I am so excited to bring you this re-release from December 20, 2021. This beautiful conversation with Sarah Quezada reminds us of the many ways we live in the tension of the now and not yet as citizens of God’s kingdom. Sarah Quezada, author of Love Undocumented joins me on … Continue reading Episode 176 – Sarah Quezada (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 176 - Sarah Quezada (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On this day after Christmas, I am so excited to bring you this re-release from December 20, 2021. This beautiful conversation with Sarah Quezada reminds us of the many ways we live in the tension of the now and not yet as citizens of God’s kingdom. Sarah Quezada, author of Love Undocumented joins me on … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-176-sarah-quezada-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 176 – Sarah Quezada (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[On this day after Christmas, I am so excited to bring you this re-release from December 20, 2021. This beautiful conversation with Sarah Quezada reminds us of the many ways we live in the tension of the now and not yet as citizens of God’s kingdom. Sarah Quezada, author of Love Undocumented joins me on … Continue reading Episode 176 – Sarah Quezada (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:05:28</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 175 - Scott Erickson (re-release!)]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 00:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This episode originally aired on October 19, 2020. (This statement is as true in 2022 as it was in 2020!) Advent couldn’t come soon enough for me this year; and I don’t think I’m alone! Scott Erickson (known to many of us as Scott the Painter) helps bring the season a little closer to home … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-175-scott-erickson-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 175 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode originally aired on October 19, 2020. (This statement is as true in 2022 as it was in 2020!) Advent couldn’t come soon enough for me this year; and I don’t think I’m alone! Scott Erickson (known to many of us as Scott the Painter) helps bring the season a little closer to home … Continue reading Episode 175 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 175 - Scott Erickson (re-release!)]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode originally aired on October 19, 2020. (This statement is as true in 2022 as it was in 2020!) Advent couldn’t come soon enough for me this year; and I don’t think I’m alone! Scott Erickson (known to many of us as Scott the Painter) helps bring the season a little closer to home … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-175-scott-erickson-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 175 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This episode originally aired on October 19, 2020. (This statement is as true in 2022 as it was in 2020!) Advent couldn’t come soon enough for me this year; and I don’t think I’m alone! Scott Erickson (known to many of us as Scott the Painter) helps bring the season a little closer to home … Continue reading Episode 175 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>01:04:33</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 174 - Kelley Nikondeha]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 15:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Alexis Busetti</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-174-kelly-nikondeha/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 174 – Kelley Nikondeha</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what … Continue reading Episode 174 – Kelley Nikondeha]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Episode 174 - Kelley Nikondeha]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what … <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-174-kelly-nikondeha/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 174 – Kelley Nikondeha</span></a>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what … Continue reading Episode 174 – Kelley Nikondeha]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:59:24</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]>
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