Reverend Jane Field is Executive Director of the Maine Council of Churches and an ordained Presbyterian (PCUSA) minister who has served Presbyterian, Episcopal, Methodist, and Lutheran churches in New York City, Connecticut, and Maine. She is part of the resistance movement against the surges of the ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Like in Minneapolis, in Maine and all over the United States immigrant citizens became targets of violence. In this challenge for the communities, a resistance movement flourished. At the forefront there were also faith leaders and communities from different religious backgrounds. Jane Field is one of them. She says:

“The Faith Community here in Maine was at the vanguard and the forefront of resistance efforts. We helped to push back against the activities of the ICE agents while they were here and against the federal government and Department of Homeland Security. We also worked at the forefront of aiding and assisting our immigrant neighbors who were under threat and being harmed. Many of them lived in lockdown in their homes or hiding in other people's homes. They were afraid to go to work, to let their kids go to school because those were places where ICE were waiting to snatch people. They would even snatch people out of their cars.”

Jane Field speaks with great determination and hope about the emergence of this networks of trust:  “There was a network through a hotline of volunteers who were walking kids to school, driving people to work, getting groceries for people who were in hiding and delivering them to them so that they didn't have to go out of their homes. That was all grassroots and decentralized. That was all mutual aid. It was not done through the government, not even at the state or municipal level. It was all just volunteers.”

In an interview for upcoming issue of evolve magazine, Elizabeth Debold speaks with Jane Field about resistance out of love and deep faith.

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Vanessa de Oliveira Andreotti is the Dean of the Faculty of Education at the University of Victoria. She is a former Canada Research Chair in Race, Inequalities and Global Change and a former David Lam Chair in Critical Multicultural Education. Vanessa has worked extensively across sectors internationally in areas of education related to global justice, global citizenship, critical literacies, Indigenous knowledge systems and the climate and nature emergency. Vanessa is the author of “Hospicing Modernity: Facing humanity’s wrongs and the implications for social activism” and “Outgrowing Modernity: Navigating Complexity, Complicity, and Collapse with Accountability and Compassion”.

She says in an interview with evolve: “Modernity is a living story with several characteristics. It's a story that inhabits us, it's a singular story of progress, development and civilization. It is so powerful that it conditions the ways that we relate to the world, the ways that we think, imagine, hope, process both emotions and trauma, and the possibilities that we have for relating to each other and creating or enabling different futures.”

In Radio evolve we share a recording from an evolve LIVE! Event with Vanessa in 2024, in which she speaks about the process of hospicing a worldview that no longer serves us and how we can usher into a new way of seeing and inhabiting the world.

The Interbeing Monastery is a space to come together in practices like meditation, Lectio Devina (a sacred reading practice), Emergent Dialogue, the Interbeing Tea Dialogues and other practices. People can become a free community member and join practices in their own rhythm. These practices can form an ecology of practice that strengthens each other and offers a way for deep transformation of self and culture.

In this episode of Radio evolve, we speak about the role of spiritual practice in the transformation of culture, the power of shared intention, about the shared global presence that is possible in online spaces, and the invitation that the Interbeing Monastery offers.

More info: www.evolve-world.org/interbeing-monastery/

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Kitt Johnson says about her work: “I highly believe that the things that we are occupied with as private people in our private life, have a lot of energy. If there's something really urgent and interesting for you, there's a lot of energy there. To create a performance from that point of departure has a huge potential to also be valuable for other people. In a way, my job is to transform what is urgent for me as a private person into something that can be hopefully universal to all times and cultures. That's very ambitious. Or at least to be relevant for other people because these themes are existential. The themes themselves are relevant to everyone, because there's a lot of power where it burns.”

In Radio evolve we speak about the power of an embodied investigation of our shared human condition.
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„The dance is more than the dancers,“ says Arawana Hayashi, creator of Social Presencing Theater at the Presencing Institute. Hayashi has worked with systems change catalyst Otto Scharmer to bring together her experience as a dancer with his work with organizations. What does it mean that the dance is more than the dancers? The dance has its own energy and coherence beyond, but not separate from, the dancers. In other words, the fields of connection between us hold wisdom that our bodies can sense. Social fields—the energy and knowledge implicit between us—can open pathways to understanding and response that the rational mind cannot see.

The Art of Making a True Move is the title of Hayashi’s book. She has developed a practice that brings meditation and movement together that enable new shared potentials to be revealed. Working with the „stuckness“ that often gets in our way individually and collectively, Hayashi teaches us to respond from a deeper, embodied place that opens up ways to truly move through and beyond being stuck. A greater whole is tapped into that is accessed through the social field.

“When we relax a little bit, then a gesture emerges that is not planned or thought about. That's what we call the true move. It comes out of nothing or a gap between discursiveness or conceptual frameworks. An openness that ties with genuineness and simplicity. And it can open completely new possibilities that we cannot access by thinking or individual insight.”

In this conversation from an evolve LIVE event in 2025, Arawana Hayashi and Elizabeth Debold engage in an inquiry into the embodied knowing that leads to a true move: How can our embodiment become a pathway to wisdom? Why does an awareness of the social field open up the potential of our togetherness.

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Elizabeth Debold in Dialogue with Toke Moeller

Thursday, January 15^th, 8 pm CET

For thirty years, Toke Moeller has been hosting conversations that matter in a world of complexity, conflict, crisis, and division. These are the conversations that feel so necessary and yet so often are avoided. Inspired to bring people together to respond to the many conflicts that divide us, Toke trusted the human capacity for curiosity and care. With his partners, he developed The Art of Hosting, an approach to these conversations that comes from generosity--the generosity of holding a space as a host. The Art of Hosting opens up a participatory, communal form of leadership that Moeller has taken into 32 countries.

And there was something else that opened up in this practice. They called it „The Magic in the Middle.“ What is this magic? A mysterious opening to a shared perception that happens when the participants let go of their assumptions and agendas and listen. Toke has reverence for this magic, feeling that it is inappropriate to try to pin it down. In an interview with evolve Magazin, he says:

“When you come to that kind of gentle, conscious space, it's like the magic of life unfolding, not the magic that you want to cook up as mysterious. When we feel that goodness, that well-being, that wish to support each other and respect each other's lives becomes more important than being right.”

In this Radio evolve, which was recorded at an evolve LIVE! Webinar, Toke Moeller and Elizabeth Debold inquire into the Magic in the Middle and the importance of hosting the conditions to create the future. How does hosting create a space for Life to unfold? What can we learn from the space between us about the future that wants to emerge?

More about Toke Moeller:

www.interchange-tomo.com

Mike Kauschke in Dialogue with Roman Krznaric

Political Scientist and bestselling author Roman Krznaric is challenging our relationship to time. Inn his view we are stuck in a “Tyranny of the Now”, a “chronic short termism, an inability to see beyond the immediate here and now”. In his books “The Good Ancestor” and recently “History for Tomorrow” he invites us to see ourselves and the world in a much wider trajectory of time and unfolding that includes the times before us and ahead of us.  For Krznaric this inclusive, long-term view opens up a source for deep hope. In an interview with evolve he says:

“I often draw a distinction between optimism and hope. Optimism is the idea that everything's going to be okay in spite of the evidence. I'm not optimistic about the prospects for our species, we are going in utterly the wrong direction. But I'm hopeful in the sense of being committed to the vision and the values that you have, even when the odds are against you. We may well be able to not have our civilizations break, but rather bend, in the face of all the challenges that we face. And this requires a huge sort of shift of consciousness in terms of our relationship to time and the living world. But the question is, can we do it at the speed and scale required, given that we might be going over and already have gone over tipping points? And anybody who's working in the realm of deep ideas will point out that cultural evolution has rarely been fast.”

In Radio evolve we speak with Roman Krznaric about the deep transformation of consciousness and identity that opens up in a much wider, inclusive relationship to time.

More on Roman Krznaric:

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www.dumont-buchverlag.de/personen/roman-krznaric-p-2900

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Thursday, 4. December, 8 pm CET

More than 20 years ago, social activist and artist Dr. Rama Mani and leadership development expert Prof. Alexander Schieffer, founded the organization “Home for Humanity”. They brought students and change-makers from all over the world to their home in France to facilitate transformational learning journeys that unleash the unique creative potential of every person to contribute towards peace, sustainability, unity and wisdom.

Based on that experience and the many connections Rama and Alexander forged during that time, they now embarked on a Global Journey, which they call “Our One Home Journey 2024-2030 – 7 Years for 7 Generations”. The seven-year journey began in April 2024 and completed its first year in the summer of 2025. It reached over 11.000 people in 20 countries on five continents: Egypt, Bhutan, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Lesotho, Tanzania, Uganda, Kenya, Sri Lanka, India, Nepal, New Zealand/Aotearoa, Australia, Japan, Mexico, Brazil, the USA, Morocco, Turkey, and France.

Rama and Alexander traveled “from home to home,” supporting transformative initiatives, connecting change makers, and accompanying future builders on their journey toward committed Earth citizenship. At each stop, they lived in the homes and organizations of local partners, shared their daily lives, learned from the communities, and supported them—from urban slums to Indigenous villages, from refugee camps to ecovillages, from universities to businesses. For this work of bringing people together, Alexander and Rama recently have been awarded with the Gusi Peace Prize.

In this session of Radio evolve Rama and Alexander shared the depth of their vision and the integral approach they are developing that sees beauty, wisdom and creative potential in every individual and in every culture, which can be unleashed for a sustainable, peaceful and wise global community on our home planet Earth.

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Thursday, 20. November, 8 pm CET

The Interbeing Tea Dialogues, a new form of collective ritual, have grown out of the Emergent Dialogue practice that the late Thomas Steininger and Elizabeth Debold developed with the evolve World team over the course of many years. It is a practice that gives us an experiential access to the truth of Interbeing, which is our already connectedness with all Life and with each other and the sacred depth of reality.

The Interbeing Tea Dialogues give rise to a space in which we can bring in our deepest concerns and inspirations to explore them in the shared field of Interbeing. It is a practice that shows were the personal meets the universal, in which we move beyond fragmentation and separation into the wholeness of life, undivided.

The space is set with a ritual, based on the timeless practice of tea ceremonies known in many cultures, which also connects us to the wisdom and presence of plants and the more-than-human-world. Through a process of inquiry, participants are invited to share their own themes and one of those themes is explored in depth together.

In this Radio evolve session, Dr. Elizabeth Debold, co-founder of the Emergent Dialogue practice, speaks with evolve editor and cultural anthropologist Dr. Nadja Rosmann about this practice and the dimensions of togetherness that it opens between us.

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We live in an evolving universe, in which also God is becoming. This idea of a “Not-Yet God” leads Ilia Delio to investigate our role as humans in the cosmos in a breathtaking and heart-opening way as participants in the unfolding of the forces of love and unification. Drawing from the insights of evolutionary mystic Teilhard de Chardin, depth psychologist Carl Jung, quantum physics, theology, and science she lays out her vision of Relational Wholeness as the evolving reality that we are in.

Beginning a career as a scientist, Illia Delio moved to the contemplative path of a Carmelite monastery and later joined a Franciscan community. She is a theologian, author, university professor and founder of the Center for Christogenesis, an online educational resource for promoting the vision of Teilhard de Chardin and the integration of science and religion.

In Radio evolve we explore how a deep awakening to the evolving wholeness of the cosmos changes our view and being in a Universe of Love.

More information on Ilia Delio: www.christogenesis.org

Thomas Steininger, our friend and companion, editor of evolve, founder and host of Radio evolve, passed away on October 9. He succumbed to the effects of a brain tumor that was diagnosed two and a half years ago. Like his life, he completed this transition of dying with an unshakeable trust in the eternity of life.

Thomas was imbued with a deep love for the new horizons of our humanity. For the possible, the creative, the not-yet-realized, the true, beautiful, and good that can still happen in and between us. The sacred space between people was his guiding star, the interbeing that can be experienced vividly in Emergent Dialogue, which Thomas co-foundedwith his partner Elizabeth Debold.

Thomas was a pioneer, a trailblazer, a co-creator of a contemporary culture of consciousness in which spiritual depth, anawareness of the sacred, clarity of thought, and ethical heart come together. He tirelessly sought dialogue and created spaces for encounter, in which the essential, the deeply meaningful, the mystery of life could reveal itself creatively.

Mary Adams, Steve Brett and François Demange where partners in this dialogue in different ways. This week, Mike Kauschke, managing editor of evolve, talks with them in honor of Thomas Steininger about a life committed to the sacred.

Metamodernity is a new cultural trend, worldview or quality that aims to bring together the values and learning from modernity and postmodernity. Brendan Graham Dempsey is one of the vivid explorers, thinkers, and critics of this new movement. His special interest lies in the relevance of these ideas for our understanding and practice of spirituality.

Brendan Dempsey has a rich background in theology and applies this to find a way to reimagine religion in a time of global crisis. But he is not only theoretically reflecting about this, at his Sky Meadow Retreat Center he is engaging practically in an experiment of metamodern practice and community.

Metamodern spirituality is taking seriously the criticism of postmodernity but tries to find a new meaning and relevance of the sacred for our lives and culture. In an interview with evolve Brendan says:

“Metamodern spirituality is a reconstructive endeavor. It is a sort of spiritual practice that invites us to reconceive of grand narratives and holistic meaning-making from a self-aware stance. We are earnest and sincere by trying to creatively generate new symbolic forms and mythic images that we can use in genuine reverence of the beauty and profundity of reality. At the same time, we’re maintaining a certain reflective distance from them because they are constructed artifacts of our own creative imagination.”

In Radio evolve evolve editor Elizabeth Debold explores together with Brendan Dempsey the qualities of metamodern spiritual thinking and practice and why they are relevant for our culture and a possible religion of the future.

“Interbeing, like life itself, is given. Life is nothing that any one of us made happen. The tree with leaves that dance gold and green in the sunlight were not made by human hand. The pleasant warmth of the sun on your face just is. These are given to us. We are made to seek beauty; to see and smell and taste it in the life world we are in the midst of. Life as such is a gift, even in the midst of suffering and confusion. The awareness of Interbeing steeps us in belonging. We come home to a deeper dimension of self and relatedness that feels so familiar and yet is a surprise. Interbeing is a gift, and it is for giving.

In giving Interbeing, we honor the gift. Just like the gift of life, it us up to us to make something of it. As individuals, the love and curiosity and meaning and creativity that we bring to life is our responsibility. Interbeing depends on human beings to co-create with it so that its capacities can develop. Interbeing as given invites us into a co-conscious co-creativity with each other through its synergistic force. This takes practice—to sense the field, to discriminate, and to be available.”

With these words form an article on the Gift of Interbeing from our recent issue of evolve magazine (here you can read the whole article) evolve editor and co-founder of Emergent Dialogue Elizabeth Debold points us to a deeper perception of Interbeing as the deep connectedness inherent in life.

In our Radio evolve we will explore together how we can become aware of the reality of interbeing as a gift and what it means to give from interbeing together.

“You cannot work for the Earth without joy – you know why? Because we are leaving the linear, top-down view of reality that has gripped us through most of the patriarchal era, and we are moving by necessity to an understanding of the reciprocity at the heart of the Universe: If you act, you are met. If you act for Earth, you feel her strength right under you and inside you, just as when you act for the forest, it is by the grace of the forest”, says Joanna Macy in an interview with evolve. 

Dr. Joanna Rogers Macy was a religious scholar, Buddhist scholar, environmental activist, and author. For decades she lived out of love for the earth. As a pioneer of deep ecology, like no other she has studied our connectedness with the living earth and has worked for its preservation. In 2020 we spoke with her about her view of the challenges we face today for our evolve issue on the climate crisis.

Joanna died in July this year with 96 years, leaving a legacy of love and heartfelt action for the earth. In honor of her work, we offer the recording of our interview with her.

From the perspective of the individual, Emergent Interbeing brings us to a new point in human development that begins to re-integrate the individual in the wholeness of Life. This is Transindividuation, where the individual begins to be able to access the shared intelligence of the field that lives between and beyond us. You can call this a practice of collective mindfulness in which we discover the thrill and potential of collective mind. The trajectory of the last at least 4000 years that brought us the self-aware, self-responsible individual in modernity and particularly in our postmodern era seems to have come to a turning point. Not only are we becoming aware of the shadow sides of hyper-individuation, narcissism, and competition, but there is a new longing for connection, for new relationship practices, for co-creation, and for new forms of “we space.” There is a new need to acknowledge our embeddedness in relationship with each other and the world around us. But this cannot be simply a regression to pre-individuated group awareness or conforming groupthink. Just as pre-rationality and trans-rationality are very different structures in consciousness and cultures, pre-individuality and transindividuality create very different worlds.

In this new series on Radio evolve, Elizabeth Debold and Thomas Steininger talk about the potentials and paradoxes of transindividuation and emergent interbeing. emergent interbeing work: https://www.evolve-world.org/we-evolve

There is a subtle symbolic reality that has the power to transform us. This dimension of reality speaks to something that our culture is forgotten to be in relationship with. It is something that Cynthia Bourgeault is deeply acquainted with. As a globally renowned teacher of Christian mysticism, her teaching and her practice are very much connected with subtle and symbolic realms of reality. These open up when we allow ourselves to be responsive not only to our cognitive intelligence but to what she calls a subtle emotional intelligence and a kinesthetic intelligence. Being deeply connected with the symbolic world of Christianity, Cynthia Bourgeault teaches a Christian mysticism that also could be called an imaginal mysticism. In this week’s Radio evolve, Thomas Steininger talks with Cynthia Bourgeault about imaginal mysticism. 

Some months ago, Dr. Thomas Steininger spoke at Breakwater Festival in Mannheim, Germany led by Rev. Paul Vanderklay. For this Christian conference, Thomas opened up the question of sacrament. How do different Christian churches celebrate the sacred? Are there new forms of sacred practice emerging in our secular culture?

Thomas explored the different ways that the Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant churches each focus on the relationship the sacred. The Orthodox Church has a strong focus on liturgy. The Catholic Church has a strong emphasis on the Eucharist and the Protestant churches have a strong emphasis on the word of the Bible.

He raised the question: In our post-Christian global era, is the sacred finding a new way to show itself through the emergent new dialogue practices that are being developed in many places around the world? Maybe these new dialogue practices, from a Christian point of view, could become something like a new sacrament: The sacrament of global mutual understanding.

One of the original integral thinkers was Jean Gebser. In the 1950s, he wrote about integral consciousness, particularly focusing on how such a consciousness would relate to time. He saw that our modernist relationship with reality mainly focused on space and the perspective of a separate, individual self. This modern worldview, with its linear understanding of time and progress, has led to many of the fundamental crises we are confronted with.

Jeremy Johnson believes that Gebser's understanding of a new relationship to time can help us to think about our global crises in a different and integral way. In his book on Gebser’s work (which is now also available in German translation), Johnson explores the implications of Gebser’s relationship to time, which makes it transparent to its origin and the ever-latent future.

In this week’s Radio evolve, Thomas Steininger talks with Jeremy Johnson about Jean Gebser and the transparency of time.

What if God, the sacred, comes from three directions at the same time? So there is sacredness that emerges out of our living planet, Earth. Then there is maybe a Creator God at the beginning of this long evolutionary process. Finally, there is a God from the future, the fulfillment of all of this.

The integral process philosopher Bonnitta Roy is in the midst of writing a book, a book about God. Written from her process perspective, God unfolds from the middle, the middle where we are here on Earth and maybe the middle of God him or herself. In this conversation, Bonnitta Roy opens up her thinking in a very vulnerable way taking us with her to the very edge of her thinking process.

In this week’s Radio evolve, Thomas Steininger speaks with Bonnitta Roy about a once and future God.

Villages have a human scale, where it is still possible to develop personal relationships free from bureaucracy or the market. Not that villages don't have problems, but they have specific qualities that we have lost in the metropolitan areas and the worlds created by the global market.

Franz Nahrada has a long history with village development. At the same time, he has worked since the 1980s as a programmer, beginning at Apple in the early days when the world wide web was a global village. His work is connecting these two, often almost opposite, realms.

Can the global Internet be a fertile ground for a new development of villages in regions around the world? This is more than a different vision for the future. It is a real movement that is taking place in many villages on all five continents. Maybe this will be our future.

In this week’s Radio evolve, Thomas Steininger talks with Franz Nahrada about the development of a global network of villages.

The philosopher and coach Jascha Rohr coined the term co-creation in the German language. In his new book, he describes how, in a time of fragmentation, co-creation is more than a powerful methodology for the development of organizations or political participation in the democratic process. Co-creation is a completely different perspective.

Deeply influenced both by the perspective of permaculture but also pattern language, he shares in this interview with Thomas Steininger how co-creation is a powerful reorientation that enables us to come together and respond to the needs and the crisis of our planet Earth.

Language matters. It creates our worlds. The trance of our objectified language creates the objectified world that we are living in. Indigenous people spoke in a different way. They enchanted the rivers, the hills, the water and mountains. Or did the rivers and the hills, the water and the mountains enchant them?

In sacred rituals, the original peoples created relationships through language that we have abandoned. François Demange lived for many years in the Peruvian Amazon and connects worlds through shamanic practices. He connects the natural world, indigenous worlds, and our contemporary world. Together with his partner Kelly Jennings, he opens the power of ritual language to a global context through an online course:

https://metsa-nihue.mykajabi.com/a/2147748041/rwuv2ooF

In this week’s Radio evolve, Thomas Steininger talks with François Demange about transforming one’s life with the language revealed by entheogens, plant consciousness and indigenous wisdom.

What is Jewish mysticism? What makes it unique? Igal Harmelin has a biography deeply devoted to mysticism and it is an unusual one. Born into a family of Holocaust survivors, he grew up in Israel but, perhaps surprisingly, devoted most of his life in an unusually committed way to Indian mysticism. He spent many years as a close student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. However, in the last ten years he came back to the mystical teachings within Judaism. The various mysticisms of developed cultures have all their unique flavor and focus. So, what is the unique flavor and focus of Jewish mysticism?

In this episode of Radio evolve, Thomas Steininger talks with Igal Harmelin about the unique qualities of the Jewish mystical tradition.

PS: In the beginning of the new year, Igal Harmelin will join Martin Bruders to lead an online course on Jewish mysticism:https://www.makespaceforgrace.de/english/jewish-mysticism/

We are all lost. Lost in the new social media world, in fragmentation and desperation. We know that. And quite likely artificial intelligence will make things worse. Or not? Mario Spassov wrote a series of articles about how the German concept of Bildung, holistic education, can show us different way to build an architecture for our social media that has the power to bring us together, instead of dividing us, to orient us instead of disorienting us. There are structures that can empower our holistic self-education, our humanness, our Bildung. This week in Radio evolve, Dr. Thomas Steininger talks with Mario Spassov about a Bildung-friendly Internet.

@mariospassov: https://medium.com/@mariospassov/the-future-of-sense-making-2ce793f07401

In the vast world of the Internet, there's a little corner on YouTube where a new kind of global conversation is taking place. This conversation revolves around spirituality, wisdom culture, science, and consciousness. These deep conversations are markedly different from the typical Internet experience. They are often quite challenging, frequently lasting more than one hour. Moreover, a network of communities is emerging around these discussions, with people both listening in and actively participating in this fresh online exploration of our times. Jordan Peterson and John Vervaeke are among the popular figures in these captivating conversations, and Paul Vanderklay is one of them.

However, Paul is not just a YouTube personality; he is also a minister in the Christian Reformed Church. In his interview with Thomas Steininger, he was asked about the particular role that major wisdom traditions like the Christian churches can play in this new global online dialogue about culture and consciousness.

Thomas Steininger and Paul Vanderklay will also speak together at the Breakwater Festival Mannheim Germany October 27-29 2023

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