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Hosted by Kevin Rice, this show features candid conversations with executives, founders, and rising leaders about how they’ve advanced their careers while staying present for the moments that matter most... raising kids, building strong partnerships, and prioritizing their health.

Each episode dives into executive career advice, leadership development, work-life balance, and the realities of parenting while managing demanding professional lives. Whether you’re navigating promotions, team growth, toddler tantrums, or time management, you’ll find insights and inspiration to lead with intention - both at work and at home.

️ New episodes weekly

 Topics: Career growth, executive mindset, parenting, burnout prevention, productivity, and more
‍‍‍ For working parents, driven professionals, and leaders building meaningful lives

Subscribe now and join the journey from &quot;boardrooms to bedtime stories.&quot;</description>
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                <itunes:subtitle>CEOs &amp; ABCs is the podcast for high performers who lead at work and show up at home.

Hosted by Kevin Rice, this show features candid conversations with executives, founders, and rising leaders about how they’ve advanced their careers while staying present for the moments that matter most... raising kids, building strong partnerships, and prioritizing their health.

Each episode dives into executive career advice, leadership development, work-life balance, and the realities of parenting while managing demanding professional lives. Whether you’re navigating promotions, team growth, toddler tantrums, or time management, you’ll find insights and inspiration to lead with intention - both at work and at home.

️ New episodes weekly

 Topics: Career growth, executive mindset, parenting, burnout prevention, productivity, and more
‍‍‍ For working parents, driven professionals, and leaders building meaningful lives

Subscribe now and join the journey from &quot;boardrooms to bedtime stories.&quot;</itunes:subtitle>
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        <itunes:summary>CEOs &amp; ABCs is the podcast for high performers who lead at work and show up at home.

Hosted by Kevin Rice, this show features candid conversations with executives, founders, and rising leaders about how they’ve advanced their careers while staying present for the moments that matter most... raising kids, building strong partnerships, and prioritizing their health.

Each episode dives into executive career advice, leadership development, work-life balance, and the realities of parenting while managing demanding professional lives. Whether you’re navigating promotions, team growth, toddler tantrums, or time management, you’ll find insights and inspiration to lead with intention - both at work and at home.

️ New episodes weekly

 Topics: Career growth, executive mindset, parenting, burnout prevention, productivity, and more
‍‍‍ For working parents, driven professionals, and leaders building meaningful lives

Subscribe now and join the journey from &quot;boardrooms to bedtime stories.&quot;</itunes:summary>
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                    <![CDATA[Rachel Wallis Andreasson (PepsiCo. & Wallis Companies) A Conversation on: Generational Business, A New Age of Leadership & The Sixth Level #33]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>What if the future of leadership isn’t about control, authority, or climbing higher… but about creating environments where people genuinely feel seen, trusted, and valued?</p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin sits down with Rachel Wallis Andreasson, former CEO of a multi-billion-dollar family business, leadership expert, and author of The Sixth Level. Rachel shares her extraordinary journey from working outside her family company at PepsiCo, to eventually leading Wallis Companies, a business founded by her father that grew from one gas station on Route 66 into a billion-dollar enterprise.</p>
<p>Rachel opens up about the realities of succession in family business, navigating grief after losing key leaders, stepping into the CEO role, and ultimately making the difficult decision to step away for the greater good of the company’s future.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Rachel explore why traditional command-and-control leadership is failing, how trust and transparency create resilient organizations, and why the same principles that build thriving workplaces also create stronger families and deeper parent-child relationships.</p>
<p>This conversation is filled with wisdom on leadership, parenting, legacy, emotional capacity, and the simple human skills we often forget matter most.</p>
<p>If you lead a business, a team, or a family, this episode will challenge how you think about success.</p>
<p>In This Episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why Rachel chose to work outside her family business before joining leadership</li>
<li>The surprising lessons she learned cleaning bathrooms and mopping floors at Taco Bell</li>
<li>Growing a family business from one gas station to over $1.5 billion in revenue</li>
<li>The emotional reality of stepping into, and stepping away from, the CEO role</li>
<li>How family business succession impacts leadership and legacy</li>
<li>The four conditions behind Rachel’s Sixth Level leadership framework</li>
<li>Why psychological safety, transparency, and trust create stronger organizations</li>
<li>How leadership principles apply directly to parenting and family life</li>
<li>The importance of emotional capacity and filling your own bucket first</li>
<li>Building cultures, at work and home, where people want to stay</li>
</ul>
<p>Key Takeaways:</p>
<ul>
<li>Great leadership starts with connection, not control.</li>
<li>People thrive when they feel trusted, cared for, and heard.</li>
<li>Transparency creates resilience during uncertainty and change.</li>
<li>The same principles that build exceptional teams also strengthen families.</li>
<li>Leadership is stewardship, whether at work or at home.</li>
<li>Sometimes protecting a legacy means having the courage to step away.</li>
</ul>
<p>About Rachel Wallis Andreasson:</p>
<p>Rachel Wallis Andreasson spent over two decades in leadership roles at Wallis Companies, a family-owned fuel and convenience business founded by her father. After rising through multiple roles across the organization, she became CEO in 2017. Today, Rachel is an author, speaker, and advocate for a new leadership paradigm focused on trust, care, mutuality, and human potential through her framework, The Sixth Level.</p>
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<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction and Context</li><li>(00:01:07) - The Sixth Level Framework</li><li>(00:02:12) - Leadership Lessons from Family Business</li><li>(00:17:47) - Core Principles of the Sixth Level</li><li>(00:20:47) - Transitioning Leadership Styles</li><li>(00:22:54) - The Importance of Justness and Transparency</li><li>(00:25:07) - Building a Thriving Culture</li><li>(00:27:51) - Resilience in Leadership</li><li>(00:28:45) - Incentivizing Connection and Care</li><li>(00:30:01) - Real-World Applications of the Framework</li><li>(00:31:36) - Conclusion and Future Outlook</li><li>(00:33:14) - The Flywheel of Leadership and Connection</li><li>(00:35:41) - Parenting Through Leadership Principles</li><li>(00:38:57) - Rituals and Family Bonds</li><li>(00:42:37) - Involving Children in Career Conversations</li><li>(00:45:24) - Stewardship in Leadership</li><li>(00:45:45) - Starting Conversations for Connection</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What if the future of leadership isn’t about control, authority, or climbing higher… but about creating environments where people genuinely feel seen, trusted, and valued?
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Rachel Wallis Andreasson, former CEO of a multi-billion-dollar family business, leadership expert, and author of The Sixth Level. Rachel shares her extraordinary journey from working outside her family company at PepsiCo, to eventually leading Wallis Companies, a business founded by her father that grew from one gas station on Route 66 into a billion-dollar enterprise.
Rachel opens up about the realities of succession in family business, navigating grief after losing key leaders, stepping into the CEO role, and ultimately making the difficult decision to step away for the greater good of the company’s future.
Together, Kevin and Rachel explore why traditional command-and-control leadership is failing, how trust and transparency create resilient organizations, and why the same principles that build thriving workplaces also create stronger families and deeper parent-child relationships.
This conversation is filled with wisdom on leadership, parenting, legacy, emotional capacity, and the simple human skills we often forget matter most.
If you lead a business, a team, or a family, this episode will challenge how you think about success.
In This Episode:

Why Rachel chose to work outside her family business before joining leadership
The surprising lessons she learned cleaning bathrooms and mopping floors at Taco Bell
Growing a family business from one gas station to over $1.5 billion in revenue
The emotional reality of stepping into, and stepping away from, the CEO role
How family business succession impacts leadership and legacy
The four conditions behind Rachel’s Sixth Level leadership framework
Why psychological safety, transparency, and trust create stronger organizations
How leadership principles apply directly to parenting and family life
The importance of emotional capacity and filling your own bucket first
Building cultures, at work and home, where people want to stay

Key Takeaways:

Great leadership starts with connection, not control.
People thrive when they feel trusted, cared for, and heard.
Transparency creates resilience during uncertainty and change.
The same principles that build exceptional teams also strengthen families.
Leadership is stewardship, whether at work or at home.
Sometimes protecting a legacy means having the courage to step away.

About Rachel Wallis Andreasson:
Rachel Wallis Andreasson spent over two decades in leadership roles at Wallis Companies, a family-owned fuel and convenience business founded by her father. After rising through multiple roles across the organization, she became CEO in 2017. Today, Rachel is an author, speaker, and advocate for a new leadership paradigm focused on trust, care, mutuality, and human potential through her framework, The Sixth Level.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rachel Wallis Andreasson (PepsiCo. & Wallis Companies) A Conversation on: Generational Business, A New Age of Leadership & The Sixth Level #33]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>What if the future of leadership isn’t about control, authority, or climbing higher… but about creating environments where people genuinely feel seen, trusted, and valued?</p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin sits down with Rachel Wallis Andreasson, former CEO of a multi-billion-dollar family business, leadership expert, and author of The Sixth Level. Rachel shares her extraordinary journey from working outside her family company at PepsiCo, to eventually leading Wallis Companies, a business founded by her father that grew from one gas station on Route 66 into a billion-dollar enterprise.</p>
<p>Rachel opens up about the realities of succession in family business, navigating grief after losing key leaders, stepping into the CEO role, and ultimately making the difficult decision to step away for the greater good of the company’s future.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Rachel explore why traditional command-and-control leadership is failing, how trust and transparency create resilient organizations, and why the same principles that build thriving workplaces also create stronger families and deeper parent-child relationships.</p>
<p>This conversation is filled with wisdom on leadership, parenting, legacy, emotional capacity, and the simple human skills we often forget matter most.</p>
<p>If you lead a business, a team, or a family, this episode will challenge how you think about success.</p>
<p>In This Episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why Rachel chose to work outside her family business before joining leadership</li>
<li>The surprising lessons she learned cleaning bathrooms and mopping floors at Taco Bell</li>
<li>Growing a family business from one gas station to over $1.5 billion in revenue</li>
<li>The emotional reality of stepping into, and stepping away from, the CEO role</li>
<li>How family business succession impacts leadership and legacy</li>
<li>The four conditions behind Rachel’s Sixth Level leadership framework</li>
<li>Why psychological safety, transparency, and trust create stronger organizations</li>
<li>How leadership principles apply directly to parenting and family life</li>
<li>The importance of emotional capacity and filling your own bucket first</li>
<li>Building cultures, at work and home, where people want to stay</li>
</ul>
<p>Key Takeaways:</p>
<ul>
<li>Great leadership starts with connection, not control.</li>
<li>People thrive when they feel trusted, cared for, and heard.</li>
<li>Transparency creates resilience during uncertainty and change.</li>
<li>The same principles that build exceptional teams also strengthen families.</li>
<li>Leadership is stewardship, whether at work or at home.</li>
<li>Sometimes protecting a legacy means having the courage to step away.</li>
</ul>
<p>About Rachel Wallis Andreasson:</p>
<p>Rachel Wallis Andreasson spent over two decades in leadership roles at Wallis Companies, a family-owned fuel and convenience business founded by her father. After rising through multiple roles across the organization, she became CEO in 2017. Today, Rachel is an author, speaker, and advocate for a new leadership paradigm focused on trust, care, mutuality, and human potential through her framework, The Sixth Level.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What if the future of leadership isn’t about control, authority, or climbing higher… but about creating environments where people genuinely feel seen, trusted, and valued?
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Rachel Wallis Andreasson, former CEO of a multi-billion-dollar family business, leadership expert, and author of The Sixth Level. Rachel shares her extraordinary journey from working outside her family company at PepsiCo, to eventually leading Wallis Companies, a business founded by her father that grew from one gas station on Route 66 into a billion-dollar enterprise.
Rachel opens up about the realities of succession in family business, navigating grief after losing key leaders, stepping into the CEO role, and ultimately making the difficult decision to step away for the greater good of the company’s future.
Together, Kevin and Rachel explore why traditional command-and-control leadership is failing, how trust and transparency create resilient organizations, and why the same principles that build thriving workplaces also create stronger families and deeper parent-child relationships.
This conversation is filled with wisdom on leadership, parenting, legacy, emotional capacity, and the simple human skills we often forget matter most.
If you lead a business, a team, or a family, this episode will challenge how you think about success.
In This Episode:

Why Rachel chose to work outside her family business before joining leadership
The surprising lessons she learned cleaning bathrooms and mopping floors at Taco Bell
Growing a family business from one gas station to over $1.5 billion in revenue
The emotional reality of stepping into, and stepping away from, the CEO role
How family business succession impacts leadership and legacy
The four conditions behind Rachel’s Sixth Level leadership framework
Why psychological safety, transparency, and trust create stronger organizations
How leadership principles apply directly to parenting and family life
The importance of emotional capacity and filling your own bucket first
Building cultures, at work and home, where people want to stay

Key Takeaways:

Great leadership starts with connection, not control.
People thrive when they feel trusted, cared for, and heard.
Transparency creates resilience during uncertainty and change.
The same principles that build exceptional teams also strengthen families.
Leadership is stewardship, whether at work or at home.
Sometimes protecting a legacy means having the courage to step away.

About Rachel Wallis Andreasson:
Rachel Wallis Andreasson spent over two decades in leadership roles at Wallis Companies, a family-owned fuel and convenience business founded by her father. After rising through multiple roles across the organization, she became CEO in 2017. Today, Rachel is an author, speaker, and advocate for a new leadership paradigm focused on trust, care, mutuality, and human potential through her framework, The Sixth Level.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Camille Hymes (Smoothie King, Starbucks, Jack In The Box, ExxonMobile) The Power of a Career Pause, How to be a Better Leader & Creating Presence at Home #032]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 19:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin sits down with Camille Hymes, former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King and former executive leader at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, to explore what it means to lead with intention, both at work and at home.</p>
<p>Camille shares how a deeply personal mission statement became the compass for her career: “to live in peace and bliss and to help others succeed beyond what they ever imagined.” From navigating executive leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognizable brands to raising a family through constant relocations, career transitions, and personal tragedy, Camille reflects on the moments that reshaped her definition of success.</p>
<p>Now in what she calls a “power pause” between roles for the first time in her career, Camille opens up about learning to slow down, reconnect with her family, and become more intentional about the opportunities she says yes, and no, to. Kevin and Camille also discuss executive coaching, building a personal board of advisors, the importance of presence, and how leadership rooted in humanity creates stronger teams, cultures, and families.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about ambition, grief, service, leadership, and the courage to align your life with what matters most.</p>
<p>In this episode<br />• Camille’s journey from ExxonMobil to the C-suite at Smoothie King<br />• How her personal mission statement guides her decisions<br />• Why she chose to take a “power pause” between leadership roles<br />• Learning to say no to opportunities that don’t align with purpose<br />• The role executive coaching played in her growth as a leader<br />• Building a personal “board of directors” for support and guidance<br />• Navigating motherhood while leading at major global brands<br />• How the loss of her daughter transformed her understanding of presence</p>
<p>Key takeaways<br />• A clear personal mission statement creates clarity in both life and career<br />• Leadership is less about authority and more about service to others<br />• Presence is a practice and small rituals can create meaningful connection<br />• Executive coaching can accelerate both personal and professional growth<br />• Great cultures are built through humanity, not just performance metrics<br />• You don’t have to do everything alone, it truly takes a village<br />• Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is pause and reflect<br />• Saying no becomes easier when you know your purpose</p>
<p>About the guest<br />Camille Hymes is a transformational executive leader and former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King. Over her career, she has held senior leadership roles at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, leading large-scale operations, culture transformation, and organizational growth. Known for her people-first leadership style, Camille is passionate about helping others succeed beyond what they imagined possible. She also serves on the boards of Reading Is Fundamental and Blessings in a Backpack, supporting children’s literacy and nutrition initiatives.</p>
<p>Charitable Organisations that Camille Supports:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://secure.rif.org/page/97851/donate/1">https://secure.rif.org/page/97851/donate/1</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.blessingsinabackpack.org/category/donating/">https://www.blessingsinabackpack.org/category/donating/</a> </li>
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<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - CEO and ABCs: How to Lead</li><li>(00:00:39) - CEO and ABCs</li><li>(00:01:55) - Steve Kroffat on His Sabbatical</li><li>(00:04:26) - Power Prison: Saying No to Opportunities</li><li>(00:10:22) - The Mission of Service</li><li>(00:12:32) - The Professional Journey of ExxonMobil's Women</li><li>(00:15:16) - In the Elevator With ExxonMobil's</li><li>(00:18:54) - Being More Present With Your Child</li><li>(00:23:27) - Jack in the Box CEO on Why He Left ExxonMobil</li><li>(00:25:40) - When Did Leadership Become More About Service than Appointment?</li><li>(00:27:52) - How to Stay Connected With Your Family</li><li>(00:29:46) - In the Elevator With Co-workers</li><li>(00:32:08) - The Personal Element of Company Culture</li><li>(00:35:57) - Why I Left Starbucks for Domino's</li><li>(00:37:14) - In the Elevator With Starbucks'</li><li>(00:39:44) - In the Elevator With Smoothie King's Executive Team</li><li>(00:41:59) - Tom Cruise on His Strengths and Weaknesses</li><li>(00:45:21) - Bringing People Along</li><li>(00:47:55) - Kevin McKinnon on His Next Chapter</li><li>(00:49:15) - Nonprofits that support literacy and nutrition</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Camille Hymes, former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King and former executive leader at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, to explore what it means to lead with intention, both at work and at home.
Camille shares how a deeply personal mission statement became the compass for her career: “to live in peace and bliss and to help others succeed beyond what they ever imagined.” From navigating executive leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognizable brands to raising a family through constant relocations, career transitions, and personal tragedy, Camille reflects on the moments that reshaped her definition of success.
Now in what she calls a “power pause” between roles for the first time in her career, Camille opens up about learning to slow down, reconnect with her family, and become more intentional about the opportunities she says yes, and no, to. Kevin and Camille also discuss executive coaching, building a personal board of advisors, the importance of presence, and how leadership rooted in humanity creates stronger teams, cultures, and families.
This is a conversation about ambition, grief, service, leadership, and the courage to align your life with what matters most.
In this episode• Camille’s journey from ExxonMobil to the C-suite at Smoothie King• How her personal mission statement guides her decisions• Why she chose to take a “power pause” between leadership roles• Learning to say no to opportunities that don’t align with purpose• The role executive coaching played in her growth as a leader• Building a personal “board of directors” for support and guidance• Navigating motherhood while leading at major global brands• How the loss of her daughter transformed her understanding of presence
Key takeaways• A clear personal mission statement creates clarity in both life and career• Leadership is less about authority and more about service to others• Presence is a practice and small rituals can create meaningful connection• Executive coaching can accelerate both personal and professional growth• Great cultures are built through humanity, not just performance metrics• You don’t have to do everything alone, it truly takes a village• Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is pause and reflect• Saying no becomes easier when you know your purpose
About the guestCamille Hymes is a transformational executive leader and former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King. Over her career, she has held senior leadership roles at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, leading large-scale operations, culture transformation, and organizational growth. Known for her people-first leadership style, Camille is passionate about helping others succeed beyond what they imagined possible. She also serves on the boards of Reading Is Fundamental and Blessings in a Backpack, supporting children’s literacy and nutrition initiatives.
Charitable Organisations that Camille Supports:

https://secure.rif.org/page/97851/donate/1
https://www.blessingsinabackpack.org/category/donating/ 
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                    <![CDATA[Camille Hymes (Smoothie King, Starbucks, Jack In The Box, ExxonMobile) The Power of a Career Pause, How to be a Better Leader & Creating Presence at Home #032]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin sits down with Camille Hymes, former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King and former executive leader at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, to explore what it means to lead with intention, both at work and at home.</p>
<p>Camille shares how a deeply personal mission statement became the compass for her career: “to live in peace and bliss and to help others succeed beyond what they ever imagined.” From navigating executive leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognizable brands to raising a family through constant relocations, career transitions, and personal tragedy, Camille reflects on the moments that reshaped her definition of success.</p>
<p>Now in what she calls a “power pause” between roles for the first time in her career, Camille opens up about learning to slow down, reconnect with her family, and become more intentional about the opportunities she says yes, and no, to. Kevin and Camille also discuss executive coaching, building a personal board of advisors, the importance of presence, and how leadership rooted in humanity creates stronger teams, cultures, and families.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about ambition, grief, service, leadership, and the courage to align your life with what matters most.</p>
<p>In this episode<br />• Camille’s journey from ExxonMobil to the C-suite at Smoothie King<br />• How her personal mission statement guides her decisions<br />• Why she chose to take a “power pause” between leadership roles<br />• Learning to say no to opportunities that don’t align with purpose<br />• The role executive coaching played in her growth as a leader<br />• Building a personal “board of directors” for support and guidance<br />• Navigating motherhood while leading at major global brands<br />• How the loss of her daughter transformed her understanding of presence</p>
<p>Key takeaways<br />• A clear personal mission statement creates clarity in both life and career<br />• Leadership is less about authority and more about service to others<br />• Presence is a practice and small rituals can create meaningful connection<br />• Executive coaching can accelerate both personal and professional growth<br />• Great cultures are built through humanity, not just performance metrics<br />• You don’t have to do everything alone, it truly takes a village<br />• Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is pause and reflect<br />• Saying no becomes easier when you know your purpose</p>
<p>About the guest<br />Camille Hymes is a transformational executive leader and former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King. Over her career, she has held senior leadership roles at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, leading large-scale operations, culture transformation, and organizational growth. Known for her people-first leadership style, Camille is passionate about helping others succeed beyond what they imagined possible. She also serves on the boards of Reading Is Fundamental and Blessings in a Backpack, supporting children’s literacy and nutrition initiatives.</p>
<p>Charitable Organisations that Camille Supports:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://secure.rif.org/page/97851/donate/1">https://secure.rif.org/page/97851/donate/1</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.blessingsinabackpack.org/category/donating/">https://www.blessingsinabackpack.org/category/donating/</a> </li>
</ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Camille Hymes, former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King and former executive leader at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, to explore what it means to lead with intention, both at work and at home.
Camille shares how a deeply personal mission statement became the compass for her career: “to live in peace and bliss and to help others succeed beyond what they ever imagined.” From navigating executive leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognizable brands to raising a family through constant relocations, career transitions, and personal tragedy, Camille reflects on the moments that reshaped her definition of success.
Now in what she calls a “power pause” between roles for the first time in her career, Camille opens up about learning to slow down, reconnect with her family, and become more intentional about the opportunities she says yes, and no, to. Kevin and Camille also discuss executive coaching, building a personal board of advisors, the importance of presence, and how leadership rooted in humanity creates stronger teams, cultures, and families.
This is a conversation about ambition, grief, service, leadership, and the courage to align your life with what matters most.
In this episode• Camille’s journey from ExxonMobil to the C-suite at Smoothie King• How her personal mission statement guides her decisions• Why she chose to take a “power pause” between leadership roles• Learning to say no to opportunities that don’t align with purpose• The role executive coaching played in her growth as a leader• Building a personal “board of directors” for support and guidance• Navigating motherhood while leading at major global brands• How the loss of her daughter transformed her understanding of presence
Key takeaways• A clear personal mission statement creates clarity in both life and career• Leadership is less about authority and more about service to others• Presence is a practice and small rituals can create meaningful connection• Executive coaching can accelerate both personal and professional growth• Great cultures are built through humanity, not just performance metrics• You don’t have to do everything alone, it truly takes a village• Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is pause and reflect• Saying no becomes easier when you know your purpose
About the guestCamille Hymes is a transformational executive leader and former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King. Over her career, she has held senior leadership roles at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, leading large-scale operations, culture transformation, and organizational growth. Known for her people-first leadership style, Camille is passionate about helping others succeed beyond what they imagined possible. She also serves on the boards of Reading Is Fundamental and Blessings in a Backpack, supporting children’s literacy and nutrition initiatives.
Charitable Organisations that Camille Supports:

https://secure.rif.org/page/97851/donate/1
https://www.blessingsinabackpack.org/category/donating/ 
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Karen Robinovitz (SlooMoo Institute, & Digital Brand Architects) Overcoming grief, loss and disappear and creating businesses built for joy #031]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 12:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin sits down with Karen Robinovitz, co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, to explore a journey that moves from pioneering the creator economy to rebuilding a life through something as simple and powerful as play.</p>
<p>Karen was early to everything, journalism, digital media, and influencer marketing, helping shape how brands and creators work together today. But behind that success was a period of profound personal loss that left her unable to function for over a year.</p>
<p>She shares how an unexpected moment—sitting on the floor playing with slime, became a turning point. What started as a small escape turned into a path back to joy, presence, and ultimately, purpose. That moment became the foundation for Sloomoo Institute, an immersive experience designed to reconnect people to play, creativity, and emotional wellbeing.</p>
<p>Kevin and Karen explore the deeper meaning behind play, why so many adults lose access to it, and what it actually costs us personally and professionally. They also connect it to leadership, parenting, and performance, showing how joy, creativity, and presence aren’t distractions, they’re advantages.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about grief, reinvention, and the courage to build something meaningful from the most unexpected place.</p>
<p>In this episode<br />• How Karen went from journalist to building one of the first influencer agencies<br />• Spotting the future of digital, creators, and commerce before it existed<br />• The hidden personal struggles behind outward success<br />• Navigating profound loss, grief, and a complete life reset<br />• How a moment of play sparked healing and a new business idea<br />• The origin and rapid growth of Sloomoo Institute<br />• Why play isn’t just for kids and what adults lose without it<br />• The science behind sensory experiences, joy, and nervous system regulation<br />• Building a brand rooted in purpose, inclusion, and emotional wellbeing<br />• Expanding Sloomoo into a full-scale universe (products, storytelling, and more)</p>
<p>Key takeaways<br />• Success doesn’t follow a straight line, but patterns make sense in hindsight<br />• Innovation often looks like “crazy” before it becomes obvious<br />• You can be thriving professionally while struggling deeply personally<br />• Joy and play are not indulgences, they’re essential for wellbeing and performance<br />• Sensory experiences can be powerful tools for healing and emotional regulation<br />• The best businesses don’t just sell products, they create transformation<br />• Reconnecting with your inner child can unlock creativity, presence, and clarity<br />• Sometimes the smallest, simplest moments (like play) can change everything</p>
<p>About the guest<br />Karen Robinovitz is the co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, an immersive, sensory experience designed to deliver joy through hands-on play.</p>
<p>Before Sloomoo, Karen was a journalist and co-founded Digital Brand Architects (DBA), one of the first influencer marketing agencies, helping shape the creator economy as we know it today.</p>
<p>Her work sits at the intersection of storytelling, brand building, and cultural insight, but her most meaningful work came from turning personal healing into a mission-driven business focused on joy, inclusion, and mental wellbeing.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:00:48) - CEO and ABCs: Karen Robinowitz</li><li>(00:01:55) - Sloomoo Institute: In the Slime Museum</li><li>(00:03:45) - Inventing the Influencer Agency</li><li>(00:10:46) - What Influencer Marketing Is Really About</li><li>(00:16:24) - How to Build a Successful Career While Being Present at Home</li><li>(00:23:50) - How Slime Helped My Friend's Daughter</li><li>(00:36:34) - "Your Inner Voice"</li><li>(00:37:20) - The Hardest Part of Starting a Business</li><li>(00:40:19) - Sloomoo: From Book to Graphic Novel</li><li>(00:44:35) - Reactivating Your Inner Child With Slime</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Karen Robinovitz, co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, to explore a journey that moves from pioneering the creator economy to rebuilding a life through something as simple and powerful as play.
Karen was early to everything, journalism, digital media, and influencer marketing, helping shape how brands and creators work together today. But behind that success was a period of profound personal loss that left her unable to function for over a year.
She shares how an unexpected moment—sitting on the floor playing with slime, became a turning point. What started as a small escape turned into a path back to joy, presence, and ultimately, purpose. That moment became the foundation for Sloomoo Institute, an immersive experience designed to reconnect people to play, creativity, and emotional wellbeing.
Kevin and Karen explore the deeper meaning behind play, why so many adults lose access to it, and what it actually costs us personally and professionally. They also connect it to leadership, parenting, and performance, showing how joy, creativity, and presence aren’t distractions, they’re advantages.
This is a conversation about grief, reinvention, and the courage to build something meaningful from the most unexpected place.
In this episode• How Karen went from journalist to building one of the first influencer agencies• Spotting the future of digital, creators, and commerce before it existed• The hidden personal struggles behind outward success• Navigating profound loss, grief, and a complete life reset• How a moment of play sparked healing and a new business idea• The origin and rapid growth of Sloomoo Institute• Why play isn’t just for kids and what adults lose without it• The science behind sensory experiences, joy, and nervous system regulation• Building a brand rooted in purpose, inclusion, and emotional wellbeing• Expanding Sloomoo into a full-scale universe (products, storytelling, and more)
Key takeaways• Success doesn’t follow a straight line, but patterns make sense in hindsight• Innovation often looks like “crazy” before it becomes obvious• You can be thriving professionally while struggling deeply personally• Joy and play are not indulgences, they’re essential for wellbeing and performance• Sensory experiences can be powerful tools for healing and emotional regulation• The best businesses don’t just sell products, they create transformation• Reconnecting with your inner child can unlock creativity, presence, and clarity• Sometimes the smallest, simplest moments (like play) can change everything
About the guestKaren Robinovitz is the co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, an immersive, sensory experience designed to deliver joy through hands-on play.
Before Sloomoo, Karen was a journalist and co-founded Digital Brand Architects (DBA), one of the first influencer marketing agencies, helping shape the creator economy as we know it today.
Her work sits at the intersection of storytelling, brand building, and cultural insight, but her most meaningful work came from turning personal healing into a mission-driven business focused on joy, inclusion, and mental wellbeing.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Karen Robinovitz (SlooMoo Institute, & Digital Brand Architects) Overcoming grief, loss and disappear and creating businesses built for joy #031]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin sits down with Karen Robinovitz, co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, to explore a journey that moves from pioneering the creator economy to rebuilding a life through something as simple and powerful as play.</p>
<p>Karen was early to everything, journalism, digital media, and influencer marketing, helping shape how brands and creators work together today. But behind that success was a period of profound personal loss that left her unable to function for over a year.</p>
<p>She shares how an unexpected moment—sitting on the floor playing with slime, became a turning point. What started as a small escape turned into a path back to joy, presence, and ultimately, purpose. That moment became the foundation for Sloomoo Institute, an immersive experience designed to reconnect people to play, creativity, and emotional wellbeing.</p>
<p>Kevin and Karen explore the deeper meaning behind play, why so many adults lose access to it, and what it actually costs us personally and professionally. They also connect it to leadership, parenting, and performance, showing how joy, creativity, and presence aren’t distractions, they’re advantages.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about grief, reinvention, and the courage to build something meaningful from the most unexpected place.</p>
<p>In this episode<br />• How Karen went from journalist to building one of the first influencer agencies<br />• Spotting the future of digital, creators, and commerce before it existed<br />• The hidden personal struggles behind outward success<br />• Navigating profound loss, grief, and a complete life reset<br />• How a moment of play sparked healing and a new business idea<br />• The origin and rapid growth of Sloomoo Institute<br />• Why play isn’t just for kids and what adults lose without it<br />• The science behind sensory experiences, joy, and nervous system regulation<br />• Building a brand rooted in purpose, inclusion, and emotional wellbeing<br />• Expanding Sloomoo into a full-scale universe (products, storytelling, and more)</p>
<p>Key takeaways<br />• Success doesn’t follow a straight line, but patterns make sense in hindsight<br />• Innovation often looks like “crazy” before it becomes obvious<br />• You can be thriving professionally while struggling deeply personally<br />• Joy and play are not indulgences, they’re essential for wellbeing and performance<br />• Sensory experiences can be powerful tools for healing and emotional regulation<br />• The best businesses don’t just sell products, they create transformation<br />• Reconnecting with your inner child can unlock creativity, presence, and clarity<br />• Sometimes the smallest, simplest moments (like play) can change everything</p>
<p>About the guest<br />Karen Robinovitz is the co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, an immersive, sensory experience designed to deliver joy through hands-on play.</p>
<p>Before Sloomoo, Karen was a journalist and co-founded Digital Brand Architects (DBA), one of the first influencer marketing agencies, helping shape the creator economy as we know it today.</p>
<p>Her work sits at the intersection of storytelling, brand building, and cultural insight, but her most meaningful work came from turning personal healing into a mission-driven business focused on joy, inclusion, and mental wellbeing.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Karen Robinovitz, co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, to explore a journey that moves from pioneering the creator economy to rebuilding a life through something as simple and powerful as play.
Karen was early to everything, journalism, digital media, and influencer marketing, helping shape how brands and creators work together today. But behind that success was a period of profound personal loss that left her unable to function for over a year.
She shares how an unexpected moment—sitting on the floor playing with slime, became a turning point. What started as a small escape turned into a path back to joy, presence, and ultimately, purpose. That moment became the foundation for Sloomoo Institute, an immersive experience designed to reconnect people to play, creativity, and emotional wellbeing.
Kevin and Karen explore the deeper meaning behind play, why so many adults lose access to it, and what it actually costs us personally and professionally. They also connect it to leadership, parenting, and performance, showing how joy, creativity, and presence aren’t distractions, they’re advantages.
This is a conversation about grief, reinvention, and the courage to build something meaningful from the most unexpected place.
In this episode• How Karen went from journalist to building one of the first influencer agencies• Spotting the future of digital, creators, and commerce before it existed• The hidden personal struggles behind outward success• Navigating profound loss, grief, and a complete life reset• How a moment of play sparked healing and a new business idea• The origin and rapid growth of Sloomoo Institute• Why play isn’t just for kids and what adults lose without it• The science behind sensory experiences, joy, and nervous system regulation• Building a brand rooted in purpose, inclusion, and emotional wellbeing• Expanding Sloomoo into a full-scale universe (products, storytelling, and more)
Key takeaways• Success doesn’t follow a straight line, but patterns make sense in hindsight• Innovation often looks like “crazy” before it becomes obvious• You can be thriving professionally while struggling deeply personally• Joy and play are not indulgences, they’re essential for wellbeing and performance• Sensory experiences can be powerful tools for healing and emotional regulation• The best businesses don’t just sell products, they create transformation• Reconnecting with your inner child can unlock creativity, presence, and clarity• Sometimes the smallest, simplest moments (like play) can change everything
About the guestKaren Robinovitz is the co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, an immersive, sensory experience designed to deliver joy through hands-on play.
Before Sloomoo, Karen was a journalist and co-founded Digital Brand Architects (DBA), one of the first influencer marketing agencies, helping shape the creator economy as we know it today.
Her work sits at the intersection of storytelling, brand building, and cultural insight, but her most meaningful work came from turning personal healing into a mission-driven business focused on joy, inclusion, and mental wellbeing.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:49:12</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Joe Cannon (Sports Studio & Hyperice) Navigating Tough Job Markets, High Intensity Travel & Fatherhood. #030]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 14:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65932/episode/2438274</guid>
                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>What does it really look like to build a career from nothing, and what happens when you finally get there?</p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Joe Cannon, SVP at Hyperice, shares the full arc of his journey, from graduating into a brutal job market with no clear path, to piecing together freelance work, sleeping in his car, and chasing any opportunity that could get him in the room.</p>
<p>Joe opens up about the uncertainty and pressure of those early years, applying to hundreds of jobs with little response, and the resilience it took to keep going when nothing seemed to be working. That period didn’t just shape his career, it shaped how he sees people, opportunity, and leadership today.</p>
<p>Now at Hyperice, Joe sits at the center of one of the fastest-growing brands in wellness, helping drive partnerships, cultural moments, and global expansion. From the Super Bowl to SXSW, he’s been part of building a brand that’s redefining how everyday people think about recovery, performance, and health.</p>
<p>But this conversation goes far beyond business.</p>
<p>Joe reflects on what it means to navigate a high-performance career while raising two young children and the constant tension between ambition and presence. He shares the realities of modern fatherhood, the guilt, the trade-offs, and the small intentional choices that matter most.</p>
<p>At the heart of it all is a simple but powerful truth: your kids don’t care about your job title, your deals, or your wins. They just want you.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about hustle, perspective, identity, and redefining success, not just by what you build, but by who you show up as along the way.</p>
<p>In This Episode</p>
<ul>
<li>From post-college rejection to breaking into the industry</li>
<li>Sleeping in his car and saying yes to any opportunity</li>
<li>How Craigslist hustles led to career-defining moments</li>
<li>Building Hyperice through partnerships and cultural activations</li>
<li>The explosion of the wellness industry and consumer behavior</li>
<li>Lessons from early struggle that shaped his leadership style</li>
<li>The reality of balancing a demanding career with two young kids</li>
<li>Why being present matters more than being perfect</li>
</ul>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>Hustle creates opportunity, but relationships sustain it</li>
<li>Early career struggles build resilience and perspective</li>
<li>You don’t need a perfect path, just momentum</li>
<li>Success at work means less if you’re absent at home</li>
<li>Kids don’t care about your title, they care about your presence</li>
<li>Being a parent is a constant evolution, not a perfect game</li>
<li>Curiosity and humility are superpowers in business</li>
<li>The best leaders remember what it felt like to be overlooked</li>
</ul>
<p>About the Guest<br /> Joe Cannon is the Senior Vice President at Hyperice, a global leader in recovery and wellness technology. He has played a key role in scaling the brand through major partnerships, cultural activations, and experiences across events like the Super Bowl, The Masters, and SXSW. Before Hyperice, Joe built his career through unconventional paths, freelance work, startups, and sheer persistence. Joe brings a unique perspective to leadership, growth, and opportunity.</p>]]>
                                    </description>
                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[What does it really look like to build a career from nothing, and what happens when you finally get there?
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Joe Cannon, SVP at Hyperice, shares the full arc of his journey, from graduating into a brutal job market with no clear path, to piecing together freelance work, sleeping in his car, and chasing any opportunity that could get him in the room.
Joe opens up about the uncertainty and pressure of those early years, applying to hundreds of jobs with little response, and the resilience it took to keep going when nothing seemed to be working. That period didn’t just shape his career, it shaped how he sees people, opportunity, and leadership today.
Now at Hyperice, Joe sits at the center of one of the fastest-growing brands in wellness, helping drive partnerships, cultural moments, and global expansion. From the Super Bowl to SXSW, he’s been part of building a brand that’s redefining how everyday people think about recovery, performance, and health.
But this conversation goes far beyond business.
Joe reflects on what it means to navigate a high-performance career while raising two young children and the constant tension between ambition and presence. He shares the realities of modern fatherhood, the guilt, the trade-offs, and the small intentional choices that matter most.
At the heart of it all is a simple but powerful truth: your kids don’t care about your job title, your deals, or your wins. They just want you.
This is a conversation about hustle, perspective, identity, and redefining success, not just by what you build, but by who you show up as along the way.
In This Episode

From post-college rejection to breaking into the industry
Sleeping in his car and saying yes to any opportunity
How Craigslist hustles led to career-defining moments
Building Hyperice through partnerships and cultural activations
The explosion of the wellness industry and consumer behavior
Lessons from early struggle that shaped his leadership style
The reality of balancing a demanding career with two young kids
Why being present matters more than being perfect

Key Takeaways

Hustle creates opportunity, but relationships sustain it
Early career struggles build resilience and perspective
You don’t need a perfect path, just momentum
Success at work means less if you’re absent at home
Kids don’t care about your title, they care about your presence
Being a parent is a constant evolution, not a perfect game
Curiosity and humility are superpowers in business
The best leaders remember what it felt like to be overlooked

About the Guest Joe Cannon is the Senior Vice President at Hyperice, a global leader in recovery and wellness technology. He has played a key role in scaling the brand through major partnerships, cultural activations, and experiences across events like the Super Bowl, The Masters, and SXSW. Before Hyperice, Joe built his career through unconventional paths, freelance work, startups, and sheer persistence. Joe brings a unique perspective to leadership, growth, and opportunity.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Joe Cannon (Sports Studio & Hyperice) Navigating Tough Job Markets, High Intensity Travel & Fatherhood. #030]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>What does it really look like to build a career from nothing, and what happens when you finally get there?</p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Joe Cannon, SVP at Hyperice, shares the full arc of his journey, from graduating into a brutal job market with no clear path, to piecing together freelance work, sleeping in his car, and chasing any opportunity that could get him in the room.</p>
<p>Joe opens up about the uncertainty and pressure of those early years, applying to hundreds of jobs with little response, and the resilience it took to keep going when nothing seemed to be working. That period didn’t just shape his career, it shaped how he sees people, opportunity, and leadership today.</p>
<p>Now at Hyperice, Joe sits at the center of one of the fastest-growing brands in wellness, helping drive partnerships, cultural moments, and global expansion. From the Super Bowl to SXSW, he’s been part of building a brand that’s redefining how everyday people think about recovery, performance, and health.</p>
<p>But this conversation goes far beyond business.</p>
<p>Joe reflects on what it means to navigate a high-performance career while raising two young children and the constant tension between ambition and presence. He shares the realities of modern fatherhood, the guilt, the trade-offs, and the small intentional choices that matter most.</p>
<p>At the heart of it all is a simple but powerful truth: your kids don’t care about your job title, your deals, or your wins. They just want you.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about hustle, perspective, identity, and redefining success, not just by what you build, but by who you show up as along the way.</p>
<p>In This Episode</p>
<ul>
<li>From post-college rejection to breaking into the industry</li>
<li>Sleeping in his car and saying yes to any opportunity</li>
<li>How Craigslist hustles led to career-defining moments</li>
<li>Building Hyperice through partnerships and cultural activations</li>
<li>The explosion of the wellness industry and consumer behavior</li>
<li>Lessons from early struggle that shaped his leadership style</li>
<li>The reality of balancing a demanding career with two young kids</li>
<li>Why being present matters more than being perfect</li>
</ul>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>Hustle creates opportunity, but relationships sustain it</li>
<li>Early career struggles build resilience and perspective</li>
<li>You don’t need a perfect path, just momentum</li>
<li>Success at work means less if you’re absent at home</li>
<li>Kids don’t care about your title, they care about your presence</li>
<li>Being a parent is a constant evolution, not a perfect game</li>
<li>Curiosity and humility are superpowers in business</li>
<li>The best leaders remember what it felt like to be overlooked</li>
</ul>
<p>About the Guest<br /> Joe Cannon is the Senior Vice President at Hyperice, a global leader in recovery and wellness technology. He has played a key role in scaling the brand through major partnerships, cultural activations, and experiences across events like the Super Bowl, The Masters, and SXSW. Before Hyperice, Joe built his career through unconventional paths, freelance work, startups, and sheer persistence. Joe brings a unique perspective to leadership, growth, and opportunity.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[What does it really look like to build a career from nothing, and what happens when you finally get there?
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Joe Cannon, SVP at Hyperice, shares the full arc of his journey, from graduating into a brutal job market with no clear path, to piecing together freelance work, sleeping in his car, and chasing any opportunity that could get him in the room.
Joe opens up about the uncertainty and pressure of those early years, applying to hundreds of jobs with little response, and the resilience it took to keep going when nothing seemed to be working. That period didn’t just shape his career, it shaped how he sees people, opportunity, and leadership today.
Now at Hyperice, Joe sits at the center of one of the fastest-growing brands in wellness, helping drive partnerships, cultural moments, and global expansion. From the Super Bowl to SXSW, he’s been part of building a brand that’s redefining how everyday people think about recovery, performance, and health.
But this conversation goes far beyond business.
Joe reflects on what it means to navigate a high-performance career while raising two young children and the constant tension between ambition and presence. He shares the realities of modern fatherhood, the guilt, the trade-offs, and the small intentional choices that matter most.
At the heart of it all is a simple but powerful truth: your kids don’t care about your job title, your deals, or your wins. They just want you.
This is a conversation about hustle, perspective, identity, and redefining success, not just by what you build, but by who you show up as along the way.
In This Episode

From post-college rejection to breaking into the industry
Sleeping in his car and saying yes to any opportunity
How Craigslist hustles led to career-defining moments
Building Hyperice through partnerships and cultural activations
The explosion of the wellness industry and consumer behavior
Lessons from early struggle that shaped his leadership style
The reality of balancing a demanding career with two young kids
Why being present matters more than being perfect

Key Takeaways

Hustle creates opportunity, but relationships sustain it
Early career struggles build resilience and perspective
You don’t need a perfect path, just momentum
Success at work means less if you’re absent at home
Kids don’t care about your title, they care about your presence
Being a parent is a constant evolution, not a perfect game
Curiosity and humility are superpowers in business
The best leaders remember what it felt like to be overlooked

About the Guest Joe Cannon is the Senior Vice President at Hyperice, a global leader in recovery and wellness technology. He has played a key role in scaling the brand through major partnerships, cultural activations, and experiences across events like the Super Bowl, The Masters, and SXSW. Before Hyperice, Joe built his career through unconventional paths, freelance work, startups, and sheer persistence. Joe brings a unique perspective to leadership, growth, and opportunity.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Charisse Hughes (Estee Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, Kellanova) A Conversation on: Alignment in the Workplace, The Relationship Between CMO & CFO & Choosing Presence #029]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>What happens when a high-achieving career is working on paper, but no longer feels aligned in real life?</p>
<p></p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs and ABCs, Kevin sits down with Charisse Hughes, a senior marketing and growth executive who has led at some of the world’s most iconic consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. But this conversation goes far beyond titles and career highlights.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Charisse opens up about being raised by a single mother and grandmother who instilled in her the values of education, independence, faith, and community. She reflects on the years she spent on the fast track, getting promoted, traveling the world, and building an impressive career, while realizing that work had quietly become her entire identity.</p>
<p></p>
<p>She shares the pivotal decision to step away from a successful role without another one lined up, the fear that came with it, and the clarity she found on the other side. Kevin and Charisse also talk about leadership, ambition, bonus motherhood, and why presence is not something anyone gives you. It is something you have to choose.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about success, identity, reinvention, and building a life that reflects what truly matters.</p>
<p>In this episode</p>
<p>• How Charisse’s mother and grandmother shaped her values around education, independence, faith, and service</p>
<p>• Why starting in finance gave her an edge as a marketer and business leader</p>
<p>• What she learned from moving into beauty, luxury, and global brand leadership</p>
<p>• The hidden cost of life on the fast track and how achievement became her whole story</p>
<p>• Why she left a successful role without another job lined up and what that season taught her</p>
<p>• How Pandora and Kellogg helped shape her leadership and confidence at the highest levels</p>
<p>• What becoming a bonus mom taught her about love, values, and showing up for family</p>
<p>• Why clarity, balance, and presence are not given to us, they must be chosen</p>
<p></p>
<p>Key takeaways</p>
<p>• Success on paper is not always the same thing as success in alignment with your values</p>
<p>• Career momentum can become addictive if you do not stop to ask what it is costing you</p>
<p>• Taking a step back is not always career suicide. Sometimes it is the clearest move forward</p>
<p>• A background in finance can make marketers stronger, more commercial, and more influential leaders</p>
<p>• Leadership is not just about functional excellence. It is about adaptability, conviction, calm, and the ability to influence others</p>
<p>• Children reflect back what matters most and can keep us grounded in what is real</p>
<p>• You do not need to stay locked into a path just because it once made sense</p>
<p>• Nobody is going to hand you the clarity or balance you want. You have to choose it</p>
<p></p>
<p>Guest Links/Show Notes</p>
<ul>
<li>Virtuosi League (<a href="https://virtuosileague.com/">⁠https://virtuosileague.com/⁠</a>), </li>
<li>Equal Justice Initiative (<a href="https://eji.org/">⁠https://eji.org/⁠</a>)</li>
<li>Howard University (<a href="https://giving.howard.edu/ways-give">⁠https://giving.howard.edu/ways-give⁠</a>)</li>
</ul>
<p></p>
<p>About Charisse Hughes</p>
<p>Charisse Hughes is a senior marketing and growth executive who has held leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognized consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. She has served as Chief Marketing Officer, led major brand and business transformations, sat on the board of Crocs, and was named CMO of the Year by Consumer Goods Technology in 2022. Known for combining commercial rigor with bold leadership, Charisse brings a powerful perspective on career growth, reinvention, and leading with purpose.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - A single boss's decision to leave her job</li><li>(00:00:28) - CEO and ABCs: Parenting Wins and Fails</li><li>(00:01:49) - How Did Your Mother's Success Shape You?</li><li>(00:06:59) - The Influencers of Luxury</li><li>(00:11:00) - How CMOs Can Connect with CFOs</li><li>(00:13:31) - The Making of Estee Lauder</li><li>(00:16:42) - Ex-Estee Lauder CEO on The Cult of Productivity</li><li>(00:21:37) - If You Had Advice For Your Younger Self</li><li>(00:25:11) - What's Motherhood Like For Bonus Parents?</li><li>(00:29:24) - As a Bonus Mother</li><li>(00:31:45) - What values did you want to help instill in your children as</li><li>(00:35:54) - Pandora's Take a Leave of Absence</li><li>(00:41:35) - Have You Changed Pandora's Direction?</li><li>(00:44:59) - What Does a Leader Need to Know to Lead Today?</li><li>(00:47:09) - What are some ways to develop your leadership skills?</li><li>(00:49:36) - In the Elevator With Kellogg</li><li>(00:53:29) - Sharice Jones on Choosing the Right Balance</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What happens when a high-achieving career is working on paper, but no longer feels aligned in real life?

In this episode of CEOs and ABCs, Kevin sits down with Charisse Hughes, a senior marketing and growth executive who has led at some of the world’s most iconic consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. But this conversation goes far beyond titles and career highlights.

Charisse opens up about being raised by a single mother and grandmother who instilled in her the values of education, independence, faith, and community. She reflects on the years she spent on the fast track, getting promoted, traveling the world, and building an impressive career, while realizing that work had quietly become her entire identity.

She shares the pivotal decision to step away from a successful role without another one lined up, the fear that came with it, and the clarity she found on the other side. Kevin and Charisse also talk about leadership, ambition, bonus motherhood, and why presence is not something anyone gives you. It is something you have to choose.
This is a conversation about success, identity, reinvention, and building a life that reflects what truly matters.
In this episode
• How Charisse’s mother and grandmother shaped her values around education, independence, faith, and service
• Why starting in finance gave her an edge as a marketer and business leader
• What she learned from moving into beauty, luxury, and global brand leadership
• The hidden cost of life on the fast track and how achievement became her whole story
• Why she left a successful role without another job lined up and what that season taught her
• How Pandora and Kellogg helped shape her leadership and confidence at the highest levels
• What becoming a bonus mom taught her about love, values, and showing up for family
• Why clarity, balance, and presence are not given to us, they must be chosen

Key takeaways
• Success on paper is not always the same thing as success in alignment with your values
• Career momentum can become addictive if you do not stop to ask what it is costing you
• Taking a step back is not always career suicide. Sometimes it is the clearest move forward
• A background in finance can make marketers stronger, more commercial, and more influential leaders
• Leadership is not just about functional excellence. It is about adaptability, conviction, calm, and the ability to influence others
• Children reflect back what matters most and can keep us grounded in what is real
• You do not need to stay locked into a path just because it once made sense
• Nobody is going to hand you the clarity or balance you want. You have to choose it

Guest Links/Show Notes

Virtuosi League (⁠https://virtuosileague.com/⁠), 
Equal Justice Initiative (⁠https://eji.org/⁠)
Howard University (⁠https://giving.howard.edu/ways-give⁠)


About Charisse Hughes
Charisse Hughes is a senior marketing and growth executive who has held leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognized consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. She has served as Chief Marketing Officer, led major brand and business transformations, sat on the board of Crocs, and was named CMO of the Year by Consumer Goods Technology in 2022. Known for combining commercial rigor with bold leadership, Charisse brings a powerful perspective on career growth, reinvention, and leading with purpose.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>What happens when a high-achieving career is working on paper, but no longer feels aligned in real life?</p>
<p></p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs and ABCs, Kevin sits down with Charisse Hughes, a senior marketing and growth executive who has led at some of the world’s most iconic consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. But this conversation goes far beyond titles and career highlights.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Charisse opens up about being raised by a single mother and grandmother who instilled in her the values of education, independence, faith, and community. She reflects on the years she spent on the fast track, getting promoted, traveling the world, and building an impressive career, while realizing that work had quietly become her entire identity.</p>
<p></p>
<p>She shares the pivotal decision to step away from a successful role without another one lined up, the fear that came with it, and the clarity she found on the other side. Kevin and Charisse also talk about leadership, ambition, bonus motherhood, and why presence is not something anyone gives you. It is something you have to choose.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about success, identity, reinvention, and building a life that reflects what truly matters.</p>
<p>In this episode</p>
<p>• How Charisse’s mother and grandmother shaped her values around education, independence, faith, and service</p>
<p>• Why starting in finance gave her an edge as a marketer and business leader</p>
<p>• What she learned from moving into beauty, luxury, and global brand leadership</p>
<p>• The hidden cost of life on the fast track and how achievement became her whole story</p>
<p>• Why she left a successful role without another job lined up and what that season taught her</p>
<p>• How Pandora and Kellogg helped shape her leadership and confidence at the highest levels</p>
<p>• What becoming a bonus mom taught her about love, values, and showing up for family</p>
<p>• Why clarity, balance, and presence are not given to us, they must be chosen</p>
<p></p>
<p>Key takeaways</p>
<p>• Success on paper is not always the same thing as success in alignment with your values</p>
<p>• Career momentum can become addictive if you do not stop to ask what it is costing you</p>
<p>• Taking a step back is not always career suicide. Sometimes it is the clearest move forward</p>
<p>• A background in finance can make marketers stronger, more commercial, and more influential leaders</p>
<p>• Leadership is not just about functional excellence. It is about adaptability, conviction, calm, and the ability to influence others</p>
<p>• Children reflect back what matters most and can keep us grounded in what is real</p>
<p>• You do not need to stay locked into a path just because it once made sense</p>
<p>• Nobody is going to hand you the clarity or balance you want. You have to choose it</p>
<p></p>
<p>Guest Links/Show Notes</p>
<ul>
<li>Virtuosi League (<a href="https://virtuosileague.com/">⁠https://virtuosileague.com/⁠</a>), </li>
<li>Equal Justice Initiative (<a href="https://eji.org/">⁠https://eji.org/⁠</a>)</li>
<li>Howard University (<a href="https://giving.howard.edu/ways-give">⁠https://giving.howard.edu/ways-give⁠</a>)</li>
</ul>
<p></p>
<p>About Charisse Hughes</p>
<p>Charisse Hughes is a senior marketing and growth executive who has held leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognized consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. She has served as Chief Marketing Officer, led major brand and business transformations, sat on the board of Crocs, and was named CMO of the Year by Consumer Goods Technology in 2022. Known for combining commercial rigor with bold leadership, Charisse brings a powerful perspective on career growth, reinvention, and leading with purpose.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What happens when a high-achieving career is working on paper, but no longer feels aligned in real life?

In this episode of CEOs and ABCs, Kevin sits down with Charisse Hughes, a senior marketing and growth executive who has led at some of the world’s most iconic consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. But this conversation goes far beyond titles and career highlights.

Charisse opens up about being raised by a single mother and grandmother who instilled in her the values of education, independence, faith, and community. She reflects on the years she spent on the fast track, getting promoted, traveling the world, and building an impressive career, while realizing that work had quietly become her entire identity.

She shares the pivotal decision to step away from a successful role without another one lined up, the fear that came with it, and the clarity she found on the other side. Kevin and Charisse also talk about leadership, ambition, bonus motherhood, and why presence is not something anyone gives you. It is something you have to choose.
This is a conversation about success, identity, reinvention, and building a life that reflects what truly matters.
In this episode
• How Charisse’s mother and grandmother shaped her values around education, independence, faith, and service
• Why starting in finance gave her an edge as a marketer and business leader
• What she learned from moving into beauty, luxury, and global brand leadership
• The hidden cost of life on the fast track and how achievement became her whole story
• Why she left a successful role without another job lined up and what that season taught her
• How Pandora and Kellogg helped shape her leadership and confidence at the highest levels
• What becoming a bonus mom taught her about love, values, and showing up for family
• Why clarity, balance, and presence are not given to us, they must be chosen

Key takeaways
• Success on paper is not always the same thing as success in alignment with your values
• Career momentum can become addictive if you do not stop to ask what it is costing you
• Taking a step back is not always career suicide. Sometimes it is the clearest move forward
• A background in finance can make marketers stronger, more commercial, and more influential leaders
• Leadership is not just about functional excellence. It is about adaptability, conviction, calm, and the ability to influence others
• Children reflect back what matters most and can keep us grounded in what is real
• You do not need to stay locked into a path just because it once made sense
• Nobody is going to hand you the clarity or balance you want. You have to choose it

Guest Links/Show Notes

Virtuosi League (⁠https://virtuosileague.com/⁠), 
Equal Justice Initiative (⁠https://eji.org/⁠)
Howard University (⁠https://giving.howard.edu/ways-give⁠)


About Charisse Hughes
Charisse Hughes is a senior marketing and growth executive who has held leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognized consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. She has served as Chief Marketing Officer, led major brand and business transformations, sat on the board of Crocs, and was named CMO of the Year by Consumer Goods Technology in 2022. Known for combining commercial rigor with bold leadership, Charisse brings a powerful perspective on career growth, reinvention, and leading with purpose.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Tariq Hassan (McDonald's, PetCo, Bank of America) The Power of Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace and at Home #028]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin sits down with Tariq Hassan, former Chief Marketing Officer of McDonald’s, to unpack a belief that shaped his entire leadership philosophy: you cannot get to incredible outcomes when fear of failure is baked into the system.</p>
<p>Tariq shares how growing up dyslexic quietly wired him for fear and overcompensation, and how that same “paralysis” shows up inside companies as the ideas people never share, the risks teams never take, and the opportunities no one even knows they missed. From Petco turnarounds to leading at one of the most iconic brands in the world, he explains why psychological safety is not a soft concept. It is a performance advantage.</p>
<p>You will hear the simple cultural shift Tariq used to make risk-taking real: celebrating “Amazing Almosts”, the best failures of the quarter, so teams could learn, pivot, and build confidence without losing accountability. Kevin and Tariq also bring this conversation home, exploring parenting, long-distance seasons, two high-performing careers under one roof, and the daily practices that help a child keep talking, especially when the stakes get higher.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about fear, trust, standards, and the environments we create, at work and at home, so people feel safe enough to grow.</p>
<p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Why fear of failure becomes invisible, but still drives behavior in high-performing cultures</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What psychological safety looks like in real meetings, not in theory</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to build “risk with guardrails” instead of chaos or blame</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The “Amazing Almosts” practice, and why celebrating the right failures changes everything</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Repairing after you miss it as a leader, and why it only feels awkward the first time</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The parenting parallel: when to catch, when to let them fall, and how trust is built</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Long-distance parenting, presence vs quantity, and choosing the moments that matter</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why this mindset matters even more in an AI-driven world of continuous learning</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Key takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>You can’t talk a team into psychological safety. You have to prove it through actions and rituals.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Fear shows up most in what doesn’t get said: the risks avoided, the debates not had, the ideas withheld.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The goal is not celebrating constant failure. The goal is learning fast, staying accountable, and building confidence to take smart swings.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Cultural change feels unnatural at first. Keep going until it becomes normal, and the language becomes part of how the team operates.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>At home, psychological safety is often measured by one thing: they keep talking.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Presence is less about quantity and more about intentional moments your family remembers.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The best leaders repair quickly, build truth-tellers around them, and stay open to feedback even when it stings.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>About Tariq Hassan:</strong><br />Tariq Hassan is a senior marketing leader who most recently served as Chief Marketing Officer at McDonald’s. Prior to McDonald’s, he held executive leadership roles at Petco, Bank of America, and Hewlett-Packard, building a career across some of the world’s most recognizable brands. Known for blending performance with humanity, Tariq focuses on the cultural conditions that unlock high-performing teams, especially psychological safety, trust, and the ability to take smart risks without fear.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:02:00) - Creating Psychological Safety in Organisation</li><li>(00:11:42) - Cultural Implications of Fear in Organizations</li><li>(00:21:35) - Celebrating Failures: The Amazing Almosts</li><li>(00:31:35) - Balancing Risk and Responsibility in Leadership</li><li>(00:33:08) - Navigating Parenting Challenges</li><li>(00:37:49) - Creating Psychological Safety at Home</li><li>(00:42:47) - Balancing Ambitious Careers</li><li>(00:48:24) - Maintaining Connection During Absence</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Tariq Hassan, former Chief Marketing Officer of McDonald’s, to unpack a belief that shaped his entire leadership philosophy: you cannot get to incredible outcomes when fear of failure is baked into the system.
Tariq shares how growing up dyslexic quietly wired him for fear and overcompensation, and how that same “paralysis” shows up inside companies as the ideas people never share, the risks teams never take, and the opportunities no one even knows they missed. From Petco turnarounds to leading at one of the most iconic brands in the world, he explains why psychological safety is not a soft concept. It is a performance advantage.
You will hear the simple cultural shift Tariq used to make risk-taking real: celebrating “Amazing Almosts”, the best failures of the quarter, so teams could learn, pivot, and build confidence without losing accountability. Kevin and Tariq also bring this conversation home, exploring parenting, long-distance seasons, two high-performing careers under one roof, and the daily practices that help a child keep talking, especially when the stakes get higher.
This is a conversation about fear, trust, standards, and the environments we create, at work and at home, so people feel safe enough to grow.
In this episode:


Why fear of failure becomes invisible, but still drives behavior in high-performing cultures


What psychological safety looks like in real meetings, not in theory


How to build “risk with guardrails” instead of chaos or blame


The “Amazing Almosts” practice, and why celebrating the right failures changes everything


Repairing after you miss it as a leader, and why it only feels awkward the first time


The parenting parallel: when to catch, when to let them fall, and how trust is built


Long-distance parenting, presence vs quantity, and choosing the moments that matter


Why this mindset matters even more in an AI-driven world of continuous learning


Key takeaways:


You can’t talk a team into psychological safety. You have to prove it through actions and rituals.


Fear shows up most in what doesn’t get said: the risks avoided, the debates not had, the ideas withheld.


The goal is not celebrating constant failure. The goal is learning fast, staying accountable, and building confidence to take smart swings.


Cultural change feels unnatural at first. Keep going until it becomes normal, and the language becomes part of how the team operates.


At home, psychological safety is often measured by one thing: they keep talking.


Presence is less about quantity and more about intentional moments your family remembers.


The best leaders repair quickly, build truth-tellers around them, and stay open to feedback even when it stings.


About Tariq Hassan:Tariq Hassan is a senior marketing leader who most recently served as Chief Marketing Officer at McDonald’s. Prior to McDonald’s, he held executive leadership roles at Petco, Bank of America, and Hewlett-Packard, building a career across some of the world’s most recognizable brands. Known for blending performance with humanity, Tariq focuses on the cultural conditions that unlock high-performing teams, especially psychological safety, trust, and the ability to take smart risks without fear.]]>
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<p>Tariq shares how growing up dyslexic quietly wired him for fear and overcompensation, and how that same “paralysis” shows up inside companies as the ideas people never share, the risks teams never take, and the opportunities no one even knows they missed. From Petco turnarounds to leading at one of the most iconic brands in the world, he explains why psychological safety is not a soft concept. It is a performance advantage.</p>
<p>You will hear the simple cultural shift Tariq used to make risk-taking real: celebrating “Amazing Almosts”, the best failures of the quarter, so teams could learn, pivot, and build confidence without losing accountability. Kevin and Tariq also bring this conversation home, exploring parenting, long-distance seasons, two high-performing careers under one roof, and the daily practices that help a child keep talking, especially when the stakes get higher.</p>
<p>This is a conversation about fear, trust, standards, and the environments we create, at work and at home, so people feel safe enough to grow.</p>
<p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Why fear of failure becomes invisible, but still drives behavior in high-performing cultures</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What psychological safety looks like in real meetings, not in theory</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to build “risk with guardrails” instead of chaos or blame</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The “Amazing Almosts” practice, and why celebrating the right failures changes everything</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Repairing after you miss it as a leader, and why it only feels awkward the first time</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The parenting parallel: when to catch, when to let them fall, and how trust is built</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Long-distance parenting, presence vs quantity, and choosing the moments that matter</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why this mindset matters even more in an AI-driven world of continuous learning</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Key takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>You can’t talk a team into psychological safety. You have to prove it through actions and rituals.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Fear shows up most in what doesn’t get said: the risks avoided, the debates not had, the ideas withheld.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The goal is not celebrating constant failure. The goal is learning fast, staying accountable, and building confidence to take smart swings.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Cultural change feels unnatural at first. Keep going until it becomes normal, and the language becomes part of how the team operates.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>At home, psychological safety is often measured by one thing: they keep talking.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Presence is less about quantity and more about intentional moments your family remembers.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The best leaders repair quickly, build truth-tellers around them, and stay open to feedback even when it stings.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>About Tariq Hassan:</strong><br />Tariq Hassan is a senior marketing leader who most recently served as Chief Marketing Officer at McDonald’s. Prior to McDonald’s, he held executive leadership roles at Petco, Bank of America, and Hewlett-Packard, building a career across some of the world’s most recognizable brands. Known for blending performance with humanity, Tariq focuses on the cultural conditions that unlock high-performing teams, especially psychological safety, trust, and the ability to take smart risks without fear.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Tariq Hassan, former Chief Marketing Officer of McDonald’s, to unpack a belief that shaped his entire leadership philosophy: you cannot get to incredible outcomes when fear of failure is baked into the system.
Tariq shares how growing up dyslexic quietly wired him for fear and overcompensation, and how that same “paralysis” shows up inside companies as the ideas people never share, the risks teams never take, and the opportunities no one even knows they missed. From Petco turnarounds to leading at one of the most iconic brands in the world, he explains why psychological safety is not a soft concept. It is a performance advantage.
You will hear the simple cultural shift Tariq used to make risk-taking real: celebrating “Amazing Almosts”, the best failures of the quarter, so teams could learn, pivot, and build confidence without losing accountability. Kevin and Tariq also bring this conversation home, exploring parenting, long-distance seasons, two high-performing careers under one roof, and the daily practices that help a child keep talking, especially when the stakes get higher.
This is a conversation about fear, trust, standards, and the environments we create, at work and at home, so people feel safe enough to grow.
In this episode:


Why fear of failure becomes invisible, but still drives behavior in high-performing cultures


What psychological safety looks like in real meetings, not in theory


How to build “risk with guardrails” instead of chaos or blame


The “Amazing Almosts” practice, and why celebrating the right failures changes everything


Repairing after you miss it as a leader, and why it only feels awkward the first time


The parenting parallel: when to catch, when to let them fall, and how trust is built


Long-distance parenting, presence vs quantity, and choosing the moments that matter


Why this mindset matters even more in an AI-driven world of continuous learning


Key takeaways:


You can’t talk a team into psychological safety. You have to prove it through actions and rituals.


Fear shows up most in what doesn’t get said: the risks avoided, the debates not had, the ideas withheld.


The goal is not celebrating constant failure. The goal is learning fast, staying accountable, and building confidence to take smart swings.


Cultural change feels unnatural at first. Keep going until it becomes normal, and the language becomes part of how the team operates.


At home, psychological safety is often measured by one thing: they keep talking.


Presence is less about quantity and more about intentional moments your family remembers.


The best leaders repair quickly, build truth-tellers around them, and stay open to feedback even when it stings.


About Tariq Hassan:Tariq Hassan is a senior marketing leader who most recently served as Chief Marketing Officer at McDonald’s. Prior to McDonald’s, he held executive leadership roles at Petco, Bank of America, and Hewlett-Packard, building a career across some of the world’s most recognizable brands. Known for blending performance with humanity, Tariq focuses on the cultural conditions that unlock high-performing teams, especially psychological safety, trust, and the ability to take smart risks without fear.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Tracy Ryan (CannaKids & NKORE Biotheraputics) Turning Pain Into Purpose: How Her Daughters Cancer Diagnosis Turned In To Two Life Saving Businesses #27]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 15:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this powerful and deeply emotional conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Tracy Ryan, co-founder and Chief Communications Officer of nkore Biotherapeutics, to explore what happens when a mother refuses to accept “incurable” as the final answer.</p>
<p>Tracy shares the moment her 8-month-old daughter, Sophie, was diagnosed with a rare brain tumor. In a single phone call, her perfect life as a successful agency founder, new mom, and entrepreneur shattered. What followed was seven years of chemotherapy, 13 surgeries, blindness, seizures, and relentless uncertainty.</p>
<p>But Tracy did not collapse under the weight of it. She built.</p>
<p>From launching a medical cannabis company to support her daughter’s immune system, to producing a Netflix documentary, to raising millions for cancer research, Tracy transformed unimaginable trauma into purpose. When she discovered her daughter had zero natural killer cells in her brain, it sparked a scientific breakthrough that led to the founding of Encore Biotherapeutics, a company now developing next-generation immunotherapy for cancer patients.</p>
<p>This is a story about resilience, betrayal, faith, science, marriage under pressure, and what it really means to choose purpose over despair. Tracy’s journey is tragic, beautiful, and wildly inspiring all at once.</p>
<p>If you have ever faced something that felt impossible, this episode will change how you see suffering, strength, and what is possible.</p>
<p>In This Episode, You’ll Learn:</p>
<p>• What happens psychologically when a parent hears “brain tumor”<br /> • Why pediatric cancer research is drastically underfunded<br /> • How cannabis research led to breakthroughs in immune system science<br /> • What natural killer cells are and why they matter in cancer treatment<br /> • The difference between surviving trauma and transforming through it<br /> • How entrepreneurship can become a vehicle for purpose<br /> • Why 85 percent of marriages fail after a child’s serious illness<br /> • The mindset required to build companies while living inside crisis<br /> • How to find meaning inside overwhelming suffering<br /> • Why resilience is often built, not born</p>
<p>Key Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Tragedy can either break you or become your calling<br /> • Meaning is assigned, not discovered<br /> • Trauma can sharpen purpose when processed intentionally<br /> • Scientific breakthroughs often begin with personal desperation<br /> • Resilience grows when you zoom out from the moment<br /> • You cannot control the storm, but you can control your response<br /> • Marriage under pressure requires active fighting for each other<br /> • Sometimes the worst moments create the most powerful missions</p>
<p></p>
<p>About Tracy Ryan</p>
<p>Tracy Ryan is the co-founder and Chief Communications Officer of NKore Biotherapeutics, a company focused on developing innovative, plant-based therapies. She has become a leading voice in the health and biotech space, driven by her personal journey as a parent navigating complex medical challenges of her daughter, Sophie. Blending entrepreneurial leadership with lived experience, Tracy brings a deeply human perspective to her work, advocating for new approaches to treatment, resilience in the face of uncertainty, and the power of persistence when traditional systems fall short.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Show Notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Nkore Biotheraputics: <a href="https://www.nkore.com/">https://www.nkore.com/</a></li>
<li>Saving Sophie Website: <a href="https://www.savingsophie.org/">https://www.savingsophie.org/</a></li>
<li>Donate to Saving Sophie: <a href="https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=W8WLTXHSMRAVY">https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=W8WLTXHSMRAVY</a> </li>
</ul>
<p>Weed The People Documentary:</p>
<ul>
<li>Gaia - <a href="https://www.gaia.com/video/weed-the-people">https://www.gaia.com/video/weed-the-people</a></li>
<li>YouTube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR9e3LS-d5I">https://www....</a></li></ul>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - One mother's story of cannabis-assisted treatment</li><li>(00:00:29) - CEO and ABCs</li><li>(00:02:00) - Tracy Ryan on CIPC and ABC</li><li>(00:02:21) - The Mother Who Saved Her Daughter's Life</li><li>(00:08:22) - One mother's battle with brain cancer</li><li>(00:12:15) - The Unusual Experience That Led to Can of Kids</li><li>(00:19:20) - Cannabis for Cancer Patients</li><li>(00:25:43) - How to start a cannabis company in 2017</li><li>(00:29:53) - Cannabis for Kids in the Fight Against Cancer</li><li>(00:36:05) - Cancer and its cure with cannabis</li><li>(00:38:57) - When My Daughter's Brain Got Cancer,</li><li>(00:44:38) - The Secret Life of Near Death Experiences</li><li>(00:50:16) - How to Win a Marriage With an Illness</li><li>(00:55:23) - One mom's story of the battle with brain cancer</li><li>(00:59:46) - The Secret to Summit Conference</li><li>(01:00:31) - The story of cannabis and cancer in kids</li><li>(01:06:38) - A telehealth patient liaison's</li><li>(01:07:06) - The battle to cure cancer with natural killer cells</li><li>(01:13:08) - Sophie Hummingbird's Cure for Cancer</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this powerful and deeply emotional conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Tracy Ryan, co-founder and Chief Communications Officer of nkore Biotherapeutics, to explore what happens when a mother refuses to accept “incurable” as the final answer.
Tracy shares the moment her 8-month-old daughter, Sophie, was diagnosed with a rare brain tumor. In a single phone call, her perfect life as a successful agency founder, new mom, and entrepreneur shattered. What followed was seven years of chemotherapy, 13 surgeries, blindness, seizures, and relentless uncertainty.
But Tracy did not collapse under the weight of it. She built.
From launching a medical cannabis company to support her daughter’s immune system, to producing a Netflix documentary, to raising millions for cancer research, Tracy transformed unimaginable trauma into purpose. When she discovered her daughter had zero natural killer cells in her brain, it sparked a scientific breakthrough that led to the founding of Encore Biotherapeutics, a company now developing next-generation immunotherapy for cancer patients.
This is a story about resilience, betrayal, faith, science, marriage under pressure, and what it really means to choose purpose over despair. Tracy’s journey is tragic, beautiful, and wildly inspiring all at once.
If you have ever faced something that felt impossible, this episode will change how you see suffering, strength, and what is possible.
In This Episode, You’ll Learn:
• What happens psychologically when a parent hears “brain tumor” • Why pediatric cancer research is drastically underfunded • How cannabis research led to breakthroughs in immune system science • What natural killer cells are and why they matter in cancer treatment • The difference between surviving trauma and transforming through it • How entrepreneurship can become a vehicle for purpose • Why 85 percent of marriages fail after a child’s serious illness • The mindset required to build companies while living inside crisis • How to find meaning inside overwhelming suffering • Why resilience is often built, not born
Key Takeaways:
• Tragedy can either break you or become your calling • Meaning is assigned, not discovered • Trauma can sharpen purpose when processed intentionally • Scientific breakthroughs often begin with personal desperation • Resilience grows when you zoom out from the moment • You cannot control the storm, but you can control your response • Marriage under pressure requires active fighting for each other • Sometimes the worst moments create the most powerful missions

About Tracy Ryan
Tracy Ryan is the co-founder and Chief Communications Officer of NKore Biotherapeutics, a company focused on developing innovative, plant-based therapies. She has become a leading voice in the health and biotech space, driven by her personal journey as a parent navigating complex medical challenges of her daughter, Sophie. Blending entrepreneurial leadership with lived experience, Tracy brings a deeply human perspective to her work, advocating for new approaches to treatment, resilience in the face of uncertainty, and the power of persistence when traditional systems fall short.

Show Notes:

Nkore Biotheraputics: https://www.nkore.com/
Saving Sophie Website: https://www.savingsophie.org/
Donate to Saving Sophie: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=W8WLTXHSMRAVY 

Weed The People Documentary:

Gaia - https://www.gaia.com/video/weed-the-people
YouTube - https://www....]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Tracy Ryan (CannaKids & NKORE Biotheraputics) Turning Pain Into Purpose: How Her Daughters Cancer Diagnosis Turned In To Two Life Saving Businesses #27]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this powerful and deeply emotional conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Tracy Ryan, co-founder and Chief Communications Officer of nkore Biotherapeutics, to explore what happens when a mother refuses to accept “incurable” as the final answer.</p>
<p>Tracy shares the moment her 8-month-old daughter, Sophie, was diagnosed with a rare brain tumor. In a single phone call, her perfect life as a successful agency founder, new mom, and entrepreneur shattered. What followed was seven years of chemotherapy, 13 surgeries, blindness, seizures, and relentless uncertainty.</p>
<p>But Tracy did not collapse under the weight of it. She built.</p>
<p>From launching a medical cannabis company to support her daughter’s immune system, to producing a Netflix documentary, to raising millions for cancer research, Tracy transformed unimaginable trauma into purpose. When she discovered her daughter had zero natural killer cells in her brain, it sparked a scientific breakthrough that led to the founding of Encore Biotherapeutics, a company now developing next-generation immunotherapy for cancer patients.</p>
<p>This is a story about resilience, betrayal, faith, science, marriage under pressure, and what it really means to choose purpose over despair. Tracy’s journey is tragic, beautiful, and wildly inspiring all at once.</p>
<p>If you have ever faced something that felt impossible, this episode will change how you see suffering, strength, and what is possible.</p>
<p>In This Episode, You’ll Learn:</p>
<p>• What happens psychologically when a parent hears “brain tumor”<br /> • Why pediatric cancer research is drastically underfunded<br /> • How cannabis research led to breakthroughs in immune system science<br /> • What natural killer cells are and why they matter in cancer treatment<br /> • The difference between surviving trauma and transforming through it<br /> • How entrepreneurship can become a vehicle for purpose<br /> • Why 85 percent of marriages fail after a child’s serious illness<br /> • The mindset required to build companies while living inside crisis<br /> • How to find meaning inside overwhelming suffering<br /> • Why resilience is often built, not born</p>
<p>Key Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Tragedy can either break you or become your calling<br /> • Meaning is assigned, not discovered<br /> • Trauma can sharpen purpose when processed intentionally<br /> • Scientific breakthroughs often begin with personal desperation<br /> • Resilience grows when you zoom out from the moment<br /> • You cannot control the storm, but you can control your response<br /> • Marriage under pressure requires active fighting for each other<br /> • Sometimes the worst moments create the most powerful missions</p>
<p></p>
<p>About Tracy Ryan</p>
<p>Tracy Ryan is the co-founder and Chief Communications Officer of NKore Biotherapeutics, a company focused on developing innovative, plant-based therapies. She has become a leading voice in the health and biotech space, driven by her personal journey as a parent navigating complex medical challenges of her daughter, Sophie. Blending entrepreneurial leadership with lived experience, Tracy brings a deeply human perspective to her work, advocating for new approaches to treatment, resilience in the face of uncertainty, and the power of persistence when traditional systems fall short.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Show Notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Nkore Biotheraputics: <a href="https://www.nkore.com/">https://www.nkore.com/</a></li>
<li>Saving Sophie Website: <a href="https://www.savingsophie.org/">https://www.savingsophie.org/</a></li>
<li>Donate to Saving Sophie: <a href="https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=W8WLTXHSMRAVY">https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=W8WLTXHSMRAVY</a> </li>
</ul>
<p>Weed The People Documentary:</p>
<ul>
<li>Gaia - <a href="https://www.gaia.com/video/weed-the-people">https://www.gaia.com/video/weed-the-people</a></li>
<li>YouTube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR9e3LS-d5I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR9e3LS-d5I</a></li>
<li>Apple TV - <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/weed-the-people/umc.cmc.6bp7nbyqxxun0tpe1y0k7wsiv">https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/weed-the-people/umc.cmc.6bp7nbyqxxun0tpe1y0k7wsiv</a></li>
<li>Amazon Prime - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Weed-People-Angela-Smith/dp/B07MBWNY3S">https://www.amazon.com/Weed-People-Angela-Smith/dp/B07MBWNY3S</a> </li>
</ul>
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                    <![CDATA[In this powerful and deeply emotional conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Tracy Ryan, co-founder and Chief Communications Officer of nkore Biotherapeutics, to explore what happens when a mother refuses to accept “incurable” as the final answer.
Tracy shares the moment her 8-month-old daughter, Sophie, was diagnosed with a rare brain tumor. In a single phone call, her perfect life as a successful agency founder, new mom, and entrepreneur shattered. What followed was seven years of chemotherapy, 13 surgeries, blindness, seizures, and relentless uncertainty.
But Tracy did not collapse under the weight of it. She built.
From launching a medical cannabis company to support her daughter’s immune system, to producing a Netflix documentary, to raising millions for cancer research, Tracy transformed unimaginable trauma into purpose. When she discovered her daughter had zero natural killer cells in her brain, it sparked a scientific breakthrough that led to the founding of Encore Biotherapeutics, a company now developing next-generation immunotherapy for cancer patients.
This is a story about resilience, betrayal, faith, science, marriage under pressure, and what it really means to choose purpose over despair. Tracy’s journey is tragic, beautiful, and wildly inspiring all at once.
If you have ever faced something that felt impossible, this episode will change how you see suffering, strength, and what is possible.
In This Episode, You’ll Learn:
• What happens psychologically when a parent hears “brain tumor” • Why pediatric cancer research is drastically underfunded • How cannabis research led to breakthroughs in immune system science • What natural killer cells are and why they matter in cancer treatment • The difference between surviving trauma and transforming through it • How entrepreneurship can become a vehicle for purpose • Why 85 percent of marriages fail after a child’s serious illness • The mindset required to build companies while living inside crisis • How to find meaning inside overwhelming suffering • Why resilience is often built, not born
Key Takeaways:
• Tragedy can either break you or become your calling • Meaning is assigned, not discovered • Trauma can sharpen purpose when processed intentionally • Scientific breakthroughs often begin with personal desperation • Resilience grows when you zoom out from the moment • You cannot control the storm, but you can control your response • Marriage under pressure requires active fighting for each other • Sometimes the worst moments create the most powerful missions

About Tracy Ryan
Tracy Ryan is the co-founder and Chief Communications Officer of NKore Biotherapeutics, a company focused on developing innovative, plant-based therapies. She has become a leading voice in the health and biotech space, driven by her personal journey as a parent navigating complex medical challenges of her daughter, Sophie. Blending entrepreneurial leadership with lived experience, Tracy brings a deeply human perspective to her work, advocating for new approaches to treatment, resilience in the face of uncertainty, and the power of persistence when traditional systems fall short.

Show Notes:

Nkore Biotheraputics: https://www.nkore.com/
Saving Sophie Website: https://www.savingsophie.org/
Donate to Saving Sophie: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=W8WLTXHSMRAVY 

Weed The People Documentary:

Gaia - https://www.gaia.com/video/weed-the-people
YouTube - https://www....]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Seth Goldman (Just Ice Tea, Honest Tea, Beyond Meat) A Conversation on Building Purpose Led, Mission Driven Businesses #26]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 18:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <strong>CEOs &amp; ABCs</strong>, Kevin Rice sits down with Seth Goldman, the founder of Honest Tea, which he built from a home kitchen concept into a category-defining brand and sold to The Coca-Cola Company in 2011. Today, Seth is the CEO and co-founder of <strong>Just Ice Tea</strong>, co-founder of <strong>PLNT Burger</strong>, Chair of the Board at <strong>Beyond Meat</strong>, and Chair of <strong>Tony’s Mission Lock</strong> at Tony’s Chocolonely.</p>
<p>Seth shares what it really takes to build and rebuild an iconic company, including why Honest Tea was ahead of its time, what it felt like to watch it eventually be discontinued, and how that unexpected ending created the opportunity to launch Just Ice Tea into a market with a massive vacuum. He also breaks down the difference experience makes in entrepreneurship, from having no relationships early on to now being able to scale faster because trust and credibility are already established.</p>
<p>The conversation goes behind the scenes of leadership and parenting. Seth opens up about launching Honest Tea while raising three young sons, including a major family health scare that happened the same day as his first Whole Foods presentation, and the reality that balance is not always possible. He shares how parenting shaped his leadership philosophy, why you cannot manage people the same way, and how focusing on outcomes over process can unlock performance in teams.</p>
<p>If you are building something big while trying to show up fully at home, this episode is both grounding and practical.</p>
<h3>In this episode, you’ll learn:</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p>How Seth went from a mission-driven mutual fund career to founding Honest Tea with a breakthrough brand idea</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What it was like building a startup while navigating a major family medical crisis</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why Seth believes balance is not always real, and how he stayed grounded anyway</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The story behind launching Just Ice Tea after Honest Tea was discontinued, and how to spot opportunity inside loss</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How parenting shaped Seth’s leadership style, including managing people based on how they learn and operate</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why purpose-driven businesses must scale to create meaningful impact</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h3>Key takeaways:</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Startups and family life rarely move in neat seasons, life and business happen at the same time</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Your relationships and reputation become your unfair advantage the second time you build</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Great leaders focus on the outcome, then adapt the path based on how people work best</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Purpose is not just values, it is a strategy that strengthens teams, trust, and resilience</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The real legacy is not the exit, it is the impact you build and the family culture you leave behind</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h3>About Seth Goldman</h3>
<p>Seth Goldman is the co-founder and CEO of Just Ice Tea and the founder of Honest Tea, which he grew into a leading organic beverage brand and sold to The Coca-Cola Company in 2011. He is Chair of the Board at Beyond Meat, co-founder of PLNT Burger, Chair of Tony’s Mission Lock at Tony’s Chocolonely, and serves on multiple mission-driven boards focused on ethical sourcing and sustainable food systems. Seth is widely known for building purpose-led consumer brands that scale without compromising values, with a leadership philosophy grounded in transparency, long-term stewardship, and real-world impact.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Seth Goldman's Current Ventures and Personal Life</li><li>(00:04:35) - The Birth of Honest Tea</li><li>(00:07:30) - Emotional Journey of Selling Honest Tea</li><li>(00:10:08) - Transitioning to Just Iced Tea</li><li>(00:12:54) - Family Life and Balancing Work</li><li>(00:15:48) - Teaching Resilience to Children</li><li>(00:18:44) - Health Perspectives on Plant-Based Products</li><li>(00:25:44) - Teaching Resilience Through Adversity</li><li>(00:27:41) - Navigating Learning Differences: A Personal Journey</li><li>(00:30:26) - Leadership Lessons: Supporting Employees</li><li>(00:32:28) - Building Relationships for Business Success</li><li>(00:34:49) - Scaling Impact: A Vision for Change</li><li>(00:38:00) - Avoiding Past Pitfalls in Business</li><li>(00:40:00) - Evolving Parenting Styles: Lessons Learned</li><li>(00:42:06) - From Authority to Friendship: Evolving Relationships</li><li>(00:43:43) - Board Roles and Intentions</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with Seth Goldman, the founder of Honest Tea, which he built from a home kitchen concept into a category-defining brand and sold to The Coca-Cola Company in 2011. Today, Seth is the CEO and co-founder of Just Ice Tea, co-founder of PLNT Burger, Chair of the Board at Beyond Meat, and Chair of Tony’s Mission Lock at Tony’s Chocolonely.
Seth shares what it really takes to build and rebuild an iconic company, including why Honest Tea was ahead of its time, what it felt like to watch it eventually be discontinued, and how that unexpected ending created the opportunity to launch Just Ice Tea into a market with a massive vacuum. He also breaks down the difference experience makes in entrepreneurship, from having no relationships early on to now being able to scale faster because trust and credibility are already established.
The conversation goes behind the scenes of leadership and parenting. Seth opens up about launching Honest Tea while raising three young sons, including a major family health scare that happened the same day as his first Whole Foods presentation, and the reality that balance is not always possible. He shares how parenting shaped his leadership philosophy, why you cannot manage people the same way, and how focusing on outcomes over process can unlock performance in teams.
If you are building something big while trying to show up fully at home, this episode is both grounding and practical.
In this episode, you’ll learn:


How Seth went from a mission-driven mutual fund career to founding Honest Tea with a breakthrough brand idea


What it was like building a startup while navigating a major family medical crisis


Why Seth believes balance is not always real, and how he stayed grounded anyway


The story behind launching Just Ice Tea after Honest Tea was discontinued, and how to spot opportunity inside loss


How parenting shaped Seth’s leadership style, including managing people based on how they learn and operate


Why purpose-driven businesses must scale to create meaningful impact


Key takeaways:


Startups and family life rarely move in neat seasons, life and business happen at the same time


Your relationships and reputation become your unfair advantage the second time you build


Great leaders focus on the outcome, then adapt the path based on how people work best


Purpose is not just values, it is a strategy that strengthens teams, trust, and resilience


The real legacy is not the exit, it is the impact you build and the family culture you leave behind


About Seth Goldman
Seth Goldman is the co-founder and CEO of Just Ice Tea and the founder of Honest Tea, which he grew into a leading organic beverage brand and sold to The Coca-Cola Company in 2011. He is Chair of the Board at Beyond Meat, co-founder of PLNT Burger, Chair of Tony’s Mission Lock at Tony’s Chocolonely, and serves on multiple mission-driven boards focused on ethical sourcing and sustainable food systems. Seth is widely known for building purpose-led consumer brands that scale without compromising values, with a leadership philosophy grounded in transparency, long-term stewardship, and real-world impact.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Seth Goldman (Just Ice Tea, Honest Tea, Beyond Meat) A Conversation on Building Purpose Led, Mission Driven Businesses #26]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <strong>CEOs &amp; ABCs</strong>, Kevin Rice sits down with Seth Goldman, the founder of Honest Tea, which he built from a home kitchen concept into a category-defining brand and sold to The Coca-Cola Company in 2011. Today, Seth is the CEO and co-founder of <strong>Just Ice Tea</strong>, co-founder of <strong>PLNT Burger</strong>, Chair of the Board at <strong>Beyond Meat</strong>, and Chair of <strong>Tony’s Mission Lock</strong> at Tony’s Chocolonely.</p>
<p>Seth shares what it really takes to build and rebuild an iconic company, including why Honest Tea was ahead of its time, what it felt like to watch it eventually be discontinued, and how that unexpected ending created the opportunity to launch Just Ice Tea into a market with a massive vacuum. He also breaks down the difference experience makes in entrepreneurship, from having no relationships early on to now being able to scale faster because trust and credibility are already established.</p>
<p>The conversation goes behind the scenes of leadership and parenting. Seth opens up about launching Honest Tea while raising three young sons, including a major family health scare that happened the same day as his first Whole Foods presentation, and the reality that balance is not always possible. He shares how parenting shaped his leadership philosophy, why you cannot manage people the same way, and how focusing on outcomes over process can unlock performance in teams.</p>
<p>If you are building something big while trying to show up fully at home, this episode is both grounding and practical.</p>
<h3>In this episode, you’ll learn:</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p>How Seth went from a mission-driven mutual fund career to founding Honest Tea with a breakthrough brand idea</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What it was like building a startup while navigating a major family medical crisis</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why Seth believes balance is not always real, and how he stayed grounded anyway</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The story behind launching Just Ice Tea after Honest Tea was discontinued, and how to spot opportunity inside loss</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How parenting shaped Seth’s leadership style, including managing people based on how they learn and operate</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why purpose-driven businesses must scale to create meaningful impact</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h3>Key takeaways:</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Startups and family life rarely move in neat seasons, life and business happen at the same time</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Your relationships and reputation become your unfair advantage the second time you build</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Great leaders focus on the outcome, then adapt the path based on how people work best</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Purpose is not just values, it is a strategy that strengthens teams, trust, and resilience</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The real legacy is not the exit, it is the impact you build and the family culture you leave behind</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h3>About Seth Goldman</h3>
<p>Seth Goldman is the co-founder and CEO of Just Ice Tea and the founder of Honest Tea, which he grew into a leading organic beverage brand and sold to The Coca-Cola Company in 2011. He is Chair of the Board at Beyond Meat, co-founder of PLNT Burger, Chair of Tony’s Mission Lock at Tony’s Chocolonely, and serves on multiple mission-driven boards focused on ethical sourcing and sustainable food systems. Seth is widely known for building purpose-led consumer brands that scale without compromising values, with a leadership philosophy grounded in transparency, long-term stewardship, and real-world impact.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with Seth Goldman, the founder of Honest Tea, which he built from a home kitchen concept into a category-defining brand and sold to The Coca-Cola Company in 2011. Today, Seth is the CEO and co-founder of Just Ice Tea, co-founder of PLNT Burger, Chair of the Board at Beyond Meat, and Chair of Tony’s Mission Lock at Tony’s Chocolonely.
Seth shares what it really takes to build and rebuild an iconic company, including why Honest Tea was ahead of its time, what it felt like to watch it eventually be discontinued, and how that unexpected ending created the opportunity to launch Just Ice Tea into a market with a massive vacuum. He also breaks down the difference experience makes in entrepreneurship, from having no relationships early on to now being able to scale faster because trust and credibility are already established.
The conversation goes behind the scenes of leadership and parenting. Seth opens up about launching Honest Tea while raising three young sons, including a major family health scare that happened the same day as his first Whole Foods presentation, and the reality that balance is not always possible. He shares how parenting shaped his leadership philosophy, why you cannot manage people the same way, and how focusing on outcomes over process can unlock performance in teams.
If you are building something big while trying to show up fully at home, this episode is both grounding and practical.
In this episode, you’ll learn:


How Seth went from a mission-driven mutual fund career to founding Honest Tea with a breakthrough brand idea


What it was like building a startup while navigating a major family medical crisis


Why Seth believes balance is not always real, and how he stayed grounded anyway


The story behind launching Just Ice Tea after Honest Tea was discontinued, and how to spot opportunity inside loss


How parenting shaped Seth’s leadership style, including managing people based on how they learn and operate


Why purpose-driven businesses must scale to create meaningful impact


Key takeaways:


Startups and family life rarely move in neat seasons, life and business happen at the same time


Your relationships and reputation become your unfair advantage the second time you build


Great leaders focus on the outcome, then adapt the path based on how people work best


Purpose is not just values, it is a strategy that strengthens teams, trust, and resilience


The real legacy is not the exit, it is the impact you build and the family culture you leave behind


About Seth Goldman
Seth Goldman is the co-founder and CEO of Just Ice Tea and the founder of Honest Tea, which he grew into a leading organic beverage brand and sold to The Coca-Cola Company in 2011. He is Chair of the Board at Beyond Meat, co-founder of PLNT Burger, Chair of Tony’s Mission Lock at Tony’s Chocolonely, and serves on multiple mission-driven boards focused on ethical sourcing and sustainable food systems. Seth is widely known for building purpose-led consumer brands that scale without compromising values, with a leadership philosophy grounded in transparency, long-term stewardship, and real-world impact.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Barry Westrum (Dairy Queen, KFC, Del Taco, Taco John's) Building Culturally Relevant, Emotionally Connected Brands & The Power of Boundaries at Creating Work-Life Balance #25]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 18:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with Barry Westrum, a veteran restaurant marketer and former CMO who has helped shape some of the most iconic QSR brands including Dairy Queen, KFC, Del Taco, Long John Silver’s, and Taco John’s.</p>
<p>Barry shares what actually makes marketing work at the highest level. Building brands that win through emotion, cultural relevance, and disciplined execution, not just promotions and transactions. Drawing on his 18 years inside Yum! Brands, he breaks down the mentorship, training, and leadership frameworks that accelerated his career and consistently produced C suite talent.</p>
<p>If you aspire to the CMO seat, Barry gets specific about the skills that matter most. Leadership, creative judgment, and persuasion. Because marketing is ultimately the business of selling ideas. The conversation also goes behind the title. Barry opens up about building a meaningful family life while navigating senior leadership roles, including an 18 month commute during his time at Dairy Queen. He shares how setting clear boundaries at work allowed him to stay present for the moments that mattered most at home, and how modeling those boundaries helped shape healthier team cultures.</p>
<p>From raising two daughters to building a multi generational household rooted in creativity and connection, Barry offers a grounded look at what sustainable leadership really requires.</p>
<p>If you are navigating ambition, leadership, and family at the same time, this episode delivers both perspective and practical guidance.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why emotional connection is the foundation of great brand marketing</li>
<li>The leadership frameworks Barry learned at Yum! Brands and used throughout his career</li>
<li>The three core skills every aspiring CMO must develop</li>
<li>How mentorship and formal training accelerate career growth</li>
<li>Why setting boundaries at work actually strengthens culture and performance</li>
<li>How to be fully present at work and at home without burning out </li>
</ul>
<p>Key takeaways:</p>
<ul>
<li>Strong brands are built at the intersection of emotion and function</li>
<li>Career management is your responsibility, not your company’s</li>
<li>Leaders shape culture through behavior, not policy</li>
<li>Boundaries create permission for teams to show up fully in every role</li>
<li>Presence matters more than perfection in both leadership and parenting</li>
<li>Sustainable success comes from managing the whole person, not just the job</li>
</ul>
<p>About Barry Westrum:</p>
<p>Barry Westrum is a seasoned marketing executive and strategic advisor with more than 30 years of experience leading iconic restaurant brands. He has served as Chief Marketing Officer at Taco John’s International, Del Taco, KFC US, and Long John Silver’s, and as EVP of Marketing at International Dairy Queen, with nearly two decades at Yum! Brands earlier in his career. Today, Barry advises emerging AI and technology platforms across the restaurant and consumer space, bringing a clarity and focus leadership philosophy rooted in insight led marketing, strong culture, and emotional brand connection.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:05:53) - Transitioning to Consulting: Embracing New Opportunities</li><li>(00:14:19) - Love in the Workplace: A Personal Story</li><li>(00:17:38) - Navigating Early Parenthood and Career</li><li>(00:21:56) - Setting Boundaries Between Work and Family</li><li>(00:26:39) - Being Present: The Key to Parenting</li><li>(00:36:52) - Personal Responsibility in Career Management</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with Barry Westrum, a veteran restaurant marketer and former CMO who has helped shape some of the most iconic QSR brands including Dairy Queen, KFC, Del Taco, Long John Silver’s, and Taco John’s.
Barry shares what actually makes marketing work at the highest level. Building brands that win through emotion, cultural relevance, and disciplined execution, not just promotions and transactions. Drawing on his 18 years inside Yum! Brands, he breaks down the mentorship, training, and leadership frameworks that accelerated his career and consistently produced C suite talent.
If you aspire to the CMO seat, Barry gets specific about the skills that matter most. Leadership, creative judgment, and persuasion. Because marketing is ultimately the business of selling ideas. The conversation also goes behind the title. Barry opens up about building a meaningful family life while navigating senior leadership roles, including an 18 month commute during his time at Dairy Queen. He shares how setting clear boundaries at work allowed him to stay present for the moments that mattered most at home, and how modeling those boundaries helped shape healthier team cultures.
From raising two daughters to building a multi generational household rooted in creativity and connection, Barry offers a grounded look at what sustainable leadership really requires.
If you are navigating ambition, leadership, and family at the same time, this episode delivers both perspective and practical guidance.
In this episode:

Why emotional connection is the foundation of great brand marketing
The leadership frameworks Barry learned at Yum! Brands and used throughout his career
The three core skills every aspiring CMO must develop
How mentorship and formal training accelerate career growth
Why setting boundaries at work actually strengthens culture and performance
How to be fully present at work and at home without burning out 

Key takeaways:

Strong brands are built at the intersection of emotion and function
Career management is your responsibility, not your company’s
Leaders shape culture through behavior, not policy
Boundaries create permission for teams to show up fully in every role
Presence matters more than perfection in both leadership and parenting
Sustainable success comes from managing the whole person, not just the job

About Barry Westrum:
Barry Westrum is a seasoned marketing executive and strategic advisor with more than 30 years of experience leading iconic restaurant brands. He has served as Chief Marketing Officer at Taco John’s International, Del Taco, KFC US, and Long John Silver’s, and as EVP of Marketing at International Dairy Queen, with nearly two decades at Yum! Brands earlier in his career. Today, Barry advises emerging AI and technology platforms across the restaurant and consumer space, bringing a clarity and focus leadership philosophy rooted in insight led marketing, strong culture, and emotional brand connection.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Barry Westrum (Dairy Queen, KFC, Del Taco, Taco John's) Building Culturally Relevant, Emotionally Connected Brands & The Power of Boundaries at Creating Work-Life Balance #25]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with Barry Westrum, a veteran restaurant marketer and former CMO who has helped shape some of the most iconic QSR brands including Dairy Queen, KFC, Del Taco, Long John Silver’s, and Taco John’s.</p>
<p>Barry shares what actually makes marketing work at the highest level. Building brands that win through emotion, cultural relevance, and disciplined execution, not just promotions and transactions. Drawing on his 18 years inside Yum! Brands, he breaks down the mentorship, training, and leadership frameworks that accelerated his career and consistently produced C suite talent.</p>
<p>If you aspire to the CMO seat, Barry gets specific about the skills that matter most. Leadership, creative judgment, and persuasion. Because marketing is ultimately the business of selling ideas. The conversation also goes behind the title. Barry opens up about building a meaningful family life while navigating senior leadership roles, including an 18 month commute during his time at Dairy Queen. He shares how setting clear boundaries at work allowed him to stay present for the moments that mattered most at home, and how modeling those boundaries helped shape healthier team cultures.</p>
<p>From raising two daughters to building a multi generational household rooted in creativity and connection, Barry offers a grounded look at what sustainable leadership really requires.</p>
<p>If you are navigating ambition, leadership, and family at the same time, this episode delivers both perspective and practical guidance.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why emotional connection is the foundation of great brand marketing</li>
<li>The leadership frameworks Barry learned at Yum! Brands and used throughout his career</li>
<li>The three core skills every aspiring CMO must develop</li>
<li>How mentorship and formal training accelerate career growth</li>
<li>Why setting boundaries at work actually strengthens culture and performance</li>
<li>How to be fully present at work and at home without burning out </li>
</ul>
<p>Key takeaways:</p>
<ul>
<li>Strong brands are built at the intersection of emotion and function</li>
<li>Career management is your responsibility, not your company’s</li>
<li>Leaders shape culture through behavior, not policy</li>
<li>Boundaries create permission for teams to show up fully in every role</li>
<li>Presence matters more than perfection in both leadership and parenting</li>
<li>Sustainable success comes from managing the whole person, not just the job</li>
</ul>
<p>About Barry Westrum:</p>
<p>Barry Westrum is a seasoned marketing executive and strategic advisor with more than 30 years of experience leading iconic restaurant brands. He has served as Chief Marketing Officer at Taco John’s International, Del Taco, KFC US, and Long John Silver’s, and as EVP of Marketing at International Dairy Queen, with nearly two decades at Yum! Brands earlier in his career. Today, Barry advises emerging AI and technology platforms across the restaurant and consumer space, bringing a clarity and focus leadership philosophy rooted in insight led marketing, strong culture, and emotional brand connection.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with Barry Westrum, a veteran restaurant marketer and former CMO who has helped shape some of the most iconic QSR brands including Dairy Queen, KFC, Del Taco, Long John Silver’s, and Taco John’s.
Barry shares what actually makes marketing work at the highest level. Building brands that win through emotion, cultural relevance, and disciplined execution, not just promotions and transactions. Drawing on his 18 years inside Yum! Brands, he breaks down the mentorship, training, and leadership frameworks that accelerated his career and consistently produced C suite talent.
If you aspire to the CMO seat, Barry gets specific about the skills that matter most. Leadership, creative judgment, and persuasion. Because marketing is ultimately the business of selling ideas. The conversation also goes behind the title. Barry opens up about building a meaningful family life while navigating senior leadership roles, including an 18 month commute during his time at Dairy Queen. He shares how setting clear boundaries at work allowed him to stay present for the moments that mattered most at home, and how modeling those boundaries helped shape healthier team cultures.
From raising two daughters to building a multi generational household rooted in creativity and connection, Barry offers a grounded look at what sustainable leadership really requires.
If you are navigating ambition, leadership, and family at the same time, this episode delivers both perspective and practical guidance.
In this episode:

Why emotional connection is the foundation of great brand marketing
The leadership frameworks Barry learned at Yum! Brands and used throughout his career
The three core skills every aspiring CMO must develop
How mentorship and formal training accelerate career growth
Why setting boundaries at work actually strengthens culture and performance
How to be fully present at work and at home without burning out 

Key takeaways:

Strong brands are built at the intersection of emotion and function
Career management is your responsibility, not your company’s
Leaders shape culture through behavior, not policy
Boundaries create permission for teams to show up fully in every role
Presence matters more than perfection in both leadership and parenting
Sustainable success comes from managing the whole person, not just the job

About Barry Westrum:
Barry Westrum is a seasoned marketing executive and strategic advisor with more than 30 years of experience leading iconic restaurant brands. He has served as Chief Marketing Officer at Taco John’s International, Del Taco, KFC US, and Long John Silver’s, and as EVP of Marketing at International Dairy Queen, with nearly two decades at Yum! Brands earlier in his career. Today, Barry advises emerging AI and technology platforms across the restaurant and consumer space, bringing a clarity and focus leadership philosophy rooted in insight led marketing, strong culture, and emotional brand connection.]]>
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                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Michael Chachula (Propelled Brands, Fat Brands, The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf) The Power of Resilience, Hard Work and Education in Corporate America #24]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2026 15:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                    https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65932/episode/2340179</guid>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this deeply personal and powerful conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Michael Chachula, CTO of Propelled Brands and longtime technology and transformation leader across the restaurant and franchise industry, to explore how adversity, resilience, and empathy shape truly great leadership.</p>
<p>Michael opens up about losing his father as a teenager and how that early loss forced him to grow up fast. Without a single role model to follow, he describes how he began “auditing” the adults around him, learning in real time what kind of man, father, and leader he wanted to become. That mindset followed him into his career, where he learned early on that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to leadership, especially at the C-suite level, and that pausing, observing, and adapting can be a powerful advantage.</p>
<p>The conversation takes a deeply human turn as Michael shares what it was like to face prostate cancer while going through a divorce, navigating nearly a year of treatment largely alone. He reflects on confronting his own mortality, the spiritual moments that gave him strength to keep fighting, and how those experiences reshaped the way he shows up for his teams, his family, and himself. T</p>
<p>hroughout the episode, Michael connects leadership to compassion, self-awareness, and balance. From lessons learned working dozens of jobs at a young age to building a career across IT and business functions, he offers grounded insight into ambition, sacrifice, and what success really means. His message is simple but profound: care about people, and everything else follows.</p>
<p></p>
<p>This episode is for leaders, parents, and anyone navigating hard seasons while trying to build a meaningful life and career.</p>
<p>In This Episode You’ll Learn</p>
<p>- How early loss shaped Michael’s leadership style and work ethic <br />- Why there’s “no one-size-fits-all” approach to being a CIO or C-level leader <br />- The “art of the pause” and why “I don’t know” can be the strongest answer <br />- How moving between business and IT builds rare executive range <br />- The hidden costs of career acceleration on family time <br />- What cancer and severe hardship taught Michael about identity, spirit, and perspective <br />- Why caring deeply about people makes careers skyrocket</p>
<p></p>
<p>Key Takeaways <br />- Michael's early loss shaped his resilience and leadership style. <br />- Self-love is crucial for personal growth and overcoming adversity. <br />- Education amplifies hard work but cannot replace it. <br />- Experience is more valuable than formal education in career advancement. <br />- Elicitation skills are essential for effective leadership and negotiation. <br />- Facing mortality can lead to profound self-discovery and clarity. <br />- Balancing work and family requires conscious effort and prioritization. <br />- The journey of personal growth often involves navigating through challenges. <br />- Success is defined by the memories and relationships we build, not just career achievements. <br />- Being kind to oneself is vital in the face of life's challenges.</p>
<p></p>
<p>About Michael Chachula <br />Michael Chachula is the CTO of Propelled Brands, supporting multiple franchise brands including FASTSIGNS, Camp Bow Wow, and My Salon Suite. He’s held executive technology leadership roles across the restaurant and consumer industries, including FAT Brands and The Coffee Bean &amp; Tea Leaf, and has extensive experience navigating business transformation, operations, and technology at scale.<br /><br />Book Recommendation:<br />- <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/317479925413?_skw=confidential+john+nolan&amp;itmmeta=01KG0PSHVFTXSMSG68M56Z65MV&amp;hash=item49eb4736a5:g:~q0AAeSwWp9pAk72&amp;itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA0O7PUuNWmJ%2B%2BUShgI9tQz%2FphbGIb7uorN91dLZt%2Bg1EyfpK7%2Fn25KEZOKSv4yL5IE4O5ZxBHdpbWraOq7OFbb9297C%2Bc4hb89%2Bsago%2BtKGpaD3PEpavnAqXRMhPe0inx8f0uoYx5VoiQK8pNX54SDO75cUC6o1w1c2xgPtOgrpcClSCoR0wFQ7oIZQo8lE3GL..."></a></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction and Background</li><li>(00:03:17) - Career Journey and Transitions</li><li>(00:04:54) - Overcoming Early Adversity</li><li>(00:07:09) - The Role of Faith and Perspective</li><li>(00:09:52) - Lessons from Adversity</li><li>(00:12:34) - Early Work Experience and Responsibility</li><li>(00:14:33) - Education and Career Growth</li><li>(00:17:08) - The Value of Experience vs. Education</li><li>(00:24:39) - Leveling Up: The Journey of Growth</li><li>(00:25:52) - Balancing Act: Career, Education, and Family</li><li>(00:27:34) - The Cost of Ambition: Time and Relationships</li><li>(00:29:38) - Teaching Through Example: Work Ethic and Passion</li><li>(00:31:50) - Career Decisions: The Move to Switzerland</li><li>(00:33:55) - The Art of Elicitation: Understanding Needs</li><li>(00:35:42) - Facing Mortality: Lessons from Life's Challenges</li><li>(00:44:07) - The House of Self: A Framework for Balance</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this deeply personal and powerful conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Michael Chachula, CTO of Propelled Brands and longtime technology and transformation leader across the restaurant and franchise industry, to explore how adversity, resilience, and empathy shape truly great leadership.
Michael opens up about losing his father as a teenager and how that early loss forced him to grow up fast. Without a single role model to follow, he describes how he began “auditing” the adults around him, learning in real time what kind of man, father, and leader he wanted to become. That mindset followed him into his career, where he learned early on that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to leadership, especially at the C-suite level, and that pausing, observing, and adapting can be a powerful advantage.
The conversation takes a deeply human turn as Michael shares what it was like to face prostate cancer while going through a divorce, navigating nearly a year of treatment largely alone. He reflects on confronting his own mortality, the spiritual moments that gave him strength to keep fighting, and how those experiences reshaped the way he shows up for his teams, his family, and himself. T
hroughout the episode, Michael connects leadership to compassion, self-awareness, and balance. From lessons learned working dozens of jobs at a young age to building a career across IT and business functions, he offers grounded insight into ambition, sacrifice, and what success really means. His message is simple but profound: care about people, and everything else follows.

This episode is for leaders, parents, and anyone navigating hard seasons while trying to build a meaningful life and career.
In This Episode You’ll Learn
- How early loss shaped Michael’s leadership style and work ethic - Why there’s “no one-size-fits-all” approach to being a CIO or C-level leader - The “art of the pause” and why “I don’t know” can be the strongest answer - How moving between business and IT builds rare executive range - The hidden costs of career acceleration on family time - What cancer and severe hardship taught Michael about identity, spirit, and perspective - Why caring deeply about people makes careers skyrocket

Key Takeaways - Michael's early loss shaped his resilience and leadership style. - Self-love is crucial for personal growth and overcoming adversity. - Education amplifies hard work but cannot replace it. - Experience is more valuable than formal education in career advancement. - Elicitation skills are essential for effective leadership and negotiation. - Facing mortality can lead to profound self-discovery and clarity. - Balancing work and family requires conscious effort and prioritization. - The journey of personal growth often involves navigating through challenges. - Success is defined by the memories and relationships we build, not just career achievements. - Being kind to oneself is vital in the face of life's challenges.

About Michael Chachula Michael Chachula is the CTO of Propelled Brands, supporting multiple franchise brands including FASTSIGNS, Camp Bow Wow, and My Salon Suite. He’s held executive technology leadership roles across the restaurant and consumer industries, including FAT Brands and The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf, and has extensive experience navigating business transformation, operations, and technology at scale.Book Recommendation:- ]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Michael Chachula (Propelled Brands, Fat Brands, The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf) The Power of Resilience, Hard Work and Education in Corporate America #24]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this deeply personal and powerful conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Michael Chachula, CTO of Propelled Brands and longtime technology and transformation leader across the restaurant and franchise industry, to explore how adversity, resilience, and empathy shape truly great leadership.</p>
<p>Michael opens up about losing his father as a teenager and how that early loss forced him to grow up fast. Without a single role model to follow, he describes how he began “auditing” the adults around him, learning in real time what kind of man, father, and leader he wanted to become. That mindset followed him into his career, where he learned early on that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to leadership, especially at the C-suite level, and that pausing, observing, and adapting can be a powerful advantage.</p>
<p>The conversation takes a deeply human turn as Michael shares what it was like to face prostate cancer while going through a divorce, navigating nearly a year of treatment largely alone. He reflects on confronting his own mortality, the spiritual moments that gave him strength to keep fighting, and how those experiences reshaped the way he shows up for his teams, his family, and himself. T</p>
<p>hroughout the episode, Michael connects leadership to compassion, self-awareness, and balance. From lessons learned working dozens of jobs at a young age to building a career across IT and business functions, he offers grounded insight into ambition, sacrifice, and what success really means. His message is simple but profound: care about people, and everything else follows.</p>
<p></p>
<p>This episode is for leaders, parents, and anyone navigating hard seasons while trying to build a meaningful life and career.</p>
<p>In This Episode You’ll Learn</p>
<p>- How early loss shaped Michael’s leadership style and work ethic <br />- Why there’s “no one-size-fits-all” approach to being a CIO or C-level leader <br />- The “art of the pause” and why “I don’t know” can be the strongest answer <br />- How moving between business and IT builds rare executive range <br />- The hidden costs of career acceleration on family time <br />- What cancer and severe hardship taught Michael about identity, spirit, and perspective <br />- Why caring deeply about people makes careers skyrocket</p>
<p></p>
<p>Key Takeaways <br />- Michael's early loss shaped his resilience and leadership style. <br />- Self-love is crucial for personal growth and overcoming adversity. <br />- Education amplifies hard work but cannot replace it. <br />- Experience is more valuable than formal education in career advancement. <br />- Elicitation skills are essential for effective leadership and negotiation. <br />- Facing mortality can lead to profound self-discovery and clarity. <br />- Balancing work and family requires conscious effort and prioritization. <br />- The journey of personal growth often involves navigating through challenges. <br />- Success is defined by the memories and relationships we build, not just career achievements. <br />- Being kind to oneself is vital in the face of life's challenges.</p>
<p></p>
<p>About Michael Chachula <br />Michael Chachula is the CTO of Propelled Brands, supporting multiple franchise brands including FASTSIGNS, Camp Bow Wow, and My Salon Suite. He’s held executive technology leadership roles across the restaurant and consumer industries, including FAT Brands and The Coffee Bean &amp; Tea Leaf, and has extensive experience navigating business transformation, operations, and technology at scale.<br /><br />Book Recommendation:<br />- <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/317479925413?_skw=confidential+john+nolan&amp;itmmeta=01KG0PSHVFTXSMSG68M56Z65MV&amp;hash=item49eb4736a5:g:~q0AAeSwWp9pAk72&amp;itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA0O7PUuNWmJ%2B%2BUShgI9tQz%2FphbGIb7uorN91dLZt%2Bg1EyfpK7%2Fn25KEZOKSv4yL5IE4O5ZxBHdpbWraOq7OFbb9297C%2Bc4hb89%2Bsago%2BtKGpaD3PEpavnAqXRMhPe0inx8f0uoYx5VoiQK8pNX54SDO75cUC6o1w1c2xgPtOgrpcClSCoR0wFQ7oIZQo8lE3GLXBQYRGEL%2B3q0VHjaoOM3Q7rGGzkwioScZifJUPynP9QSQtmnshLOUXK5fX%2B3wnqm4BFY5wsJ00KPS6vdlf1OqU%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_Kd5paAZw">Confidential by John Nolan</a><br />- <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Chachula-Method-Compass-Leadership-World/dp/B0FBRYSWWS">The Chachula Method: A Compass for IT Leadership in the Real World <br /></a>- <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Artificial-Efficiency-Practical-Winning-Chachula-ebook/dp/B0FMZW2G1Y">Artificial Efficiency: A CEO's Practical Guide to Winning with AI: The Chachula Method – Part II</a></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this deeply personal and powerful conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Michael Chachula, CTO of Propelled Brands and longtime technology and transformation leader across the restaurant and franchise industry, to explore how adversity, resilience, and empathy shape truly great leadership.
Michael opens up about losing his father as a teenager and how that early loss forced him to grow up fast. Without a single role model to follow, he describes how he began “auditing” the adults around him, learning in real time what kind of man, father, and leader he wanted to become. That mindset followed him into his career, where he learned early on that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to leadership, especially at the C-suite level, and that pausing, observing, and adapting can be a powerful advantage.
The conversation takes a deeply human turn as Michael shares what it was like to face prostate cancer while going through a divorce, navigating nearly a year of treatment largely alone. He reflects on confronting his own mortality, the spiritual moments that gave him strength to keep fighting, and how those experiences reshaped the way he shows up for his teams, his family, and himself. T
hroughout the episode, Michael connects leadership to compassion, self-awareness, and balance. From lessons learned working dozens of jobs at a young age to building a career across IT and business functions, he offers grounded insight into ambition, sacrifice, and what success really means. His message is simple but profound: care about people, and everything else follows.

This episode is for leaders, parents, and anyone navigating hard seasons while trying to build a meaningful life and career.
In This Episode You’ll Learn
- How early loss shaped Michael’s leadership style and work ethic - Why there’s “no one-size-fits-all” approach to being a CIO or C-level leader - The “art of the pause” and why “I don’t know” can be the strongest answer - How moving between business and IT builds rare executive range - The hidden costs of career acceleration on family time - What cancer and severe hardship taught Michael about identity, spirit, and perspective - Why caring deeply about people makes careers skyrocket

Key Takeaways - Michael's early loss shaped his resilience and leadership style. - Self-love is crucial for personal growth and overcoming adversity. - Education amplifies hard work but cannot replace it. - Experience is more valuable than formal education in career advancement. - Elicitation skills are essential for effective leadership and negotiation. - Facing mortality can lead to profound self-discovery and clarity. - Balancing work and family requires conscious effort and prioritization. - The journey of personal growth often involves navigating through challenges. - Success is defined by the memories and relationships we build, not just career achievements. - Being kind to oneself is vital in the face of life's challenges.

About Michael Chachula Michael Chachula is the CTO of Propelled Brands, supporting multiple franchise brands including FASTSIGNS, Camp Bow Wow, and My Salon Suite. He’s held executive technology leadership roles across the restaurant and consumer industries, including FAT Brands and The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf, and has extensive experience navigating business transformation, operations, and technology at scale.Book Recommendation:- ]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Anncy Rowe (Rodan +Fields, L'Oreal, Avon, Strivectin) From L’Oréal to C-Suite: The Confidence Pattern That Changed Everything #023]]>
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                <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2026 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>Anncy Rowe has spent decades building iconic beauty brands, but this conversation goes far beyond titles and milestones. In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the Chief Commercial Officer of Rodan + Fields to explore what it really looks like to grow into leadership over time while navigating identity, motherhood, ambition, and legacy.</p>
<p>Anncy reflects on rising through the ranks at L’Oréal without ever chasing a specific end goal, driven instead by passion for the work itself. She opens up about navigating imposter syndrome at every new level, being the only one in the room who looked like her, and learning to trust that she belonged. From loving the craft of brand building to leading a major omni-channel transformation at Rodan + Fields, Anncy shares how purpose and confidence are built through experience, not certainty.</p>
<p>The conversation also moves deeply into parenthood and seasons of life. Anncy shares the emotional reality of red-eye flights for birthdays her son would never remember, the wake-up call of burnout, and the moment of dropping her daughter off at college that felt like an “extraction.” She reflects on what it means to redefine yourself as your children grow more independent, asking the powerful question, “Who are you when you’re no longer caring for someone?”</p>
<p>This is an honest, thoughtful episode about ambition without a blueprint, leading with care, modeling behavior for teams and children, and preparing for the next chapter with intention. It’s a conversation for anyone navigating growth, change, and the evolving definition of success.</p>
<p></p>
<p>In This Episode You'll Learn</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Why Anncy never chased titles but still rose to the C-suite</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How passion builds confidence faster than career planning</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What imposter syndrome really looks like at senior levels</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why over-sacrificing can lead to burnout</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to rethink presence in parenting and leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What changes emotionally when your child leaves for college</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to model boundaries and behavior for teams and family</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why legacy is about how you make people feel</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h2></h2>
<p>Top Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Confidence is built through doing, not knowing</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Imposter syndrome often signals growth, not failure</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>You don’t need a 10-year plan to build a meaningful career</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Over-functioning eventually comes at a cost</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Children learn more from what we model than what we say</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Leadership and parenting require the same self-awareness</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Preparing for the next life chapter is an act of leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Legacy is rooted in care, kindness, and impact</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p></p>
<p>About Anncy Rowe</p>
<p>Anncy Rowe is a seasoned beauty industry executive and currently serves as Chief Commercial Officer at Rodan + Fields, where she is helping lead the brand through a major omni-channel transformation. She previously held senior leadership roles at L’Oréal, including on the Maybelline brand, and served as CMO of StriVectin. A passionate advocate for helping women feel confident at every stage of life, Anncy is also a mother of two and a leader deeply committed to purpose-driven growth, culture, and legacy.</p>
<p>Chapters</p>
<p>00:00 Loving the work without chasing the title<br /> 02:31 Rising through the ranks at L’Oréal<br /> 06:02 Confidence, tenacity, and imposter syndrome<br /> 10:07 Passion, purpose, and finding your industry<br /> 13:53 Leading Rodan + Fields through omni-channel change<br /> 18:56 Immigration, upbringing, and resilience<br /> 25:17 Over-sacrificing, burnout, and red-eye wake-up calls<br /> 27:35 Self-care, faith, and filling your cup<br /> 32:51 Modeling boundaries for teams<br /> 36:29 Dropping a child off at college<br /> 39:43 Redefining identity and...</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - The Secret to Success in Career</li><li>(00:00:48) - CEO and ABC: Real Stories From Executives</li><li>(00:01:56) - What gave you the confidence to climb the ladder at L'O</li><li>(00:06:48) - Have You Got Imposter Syndrome?</li><li>(00:10:16) - Passion and purpose in the makeup industry</li><li>(00:13:18) - Ulta Beauty's Big Change to Direct-to-Consumer</li><li>(00:18:36) - The Importance of Stories From Your Parents</li><li>(00:21:05) - Married Parents Talk About The Sacrifice They Make</li><li>(00:27:26) - The Secret to Taking Care of Yourself</li><li>(00:29:41) - The Secret to a Happy Holidays</li><li>(00:33:27) - The Importance of Modeling</li><li>(00:35:50) - Have You Cried When Your Daughter Goes To College?</li><li>(00:39:33) - The Next Chapter in Your Life</li><li>(00:42:35) - Tim Ferriss on His Legacy</li><li>(00:44:45) - CEO and ABCs: Ansi and Kevin</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Anncy Rowe has spent decades building iconic beauty brands, but this conversation goes far beyond titles and milestones. In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the Chief Commercial Officer of Rodan + Fields to explore what it really looks like to grow into leadership over time while navigating identity, motherhood, ambition, and legacy.
Anncy reflects on rising through the ranks at L’Oréal without ever chasing a specific end goal, driven instead by passion for the work itself. She opens up about navigating imposter syndrome at every new level, being the only one in the room who looked like her, and learning to trust that she belonged. From loving the craft of brand building to leading a major omni-channel transformation at Rodan + Fields, Anncy shares how purpose and confidence are built through experience, not certainty.
The conversation also moves deeply into parenthood and seasons of life. Anncy shares the emotional reality of red-eye flights for birthdays her son would never remember, the wake-up call of burnout, and the moment of dropping her daughter off at college that felt like an “extraction.” She reflects on what it means to redefine yourself as your children grow more independent, asking the powerful question, “Who are you when you’re no longer caring for someone?”
This is an honest, thoughtful episode about ambition without a blueprint, leading with care, modeling behavior for teams and children, and preparing for the next chapter with intention. It’s a conversation for anyone navigating growth, change, and the evolving definition of success.

In This Episode You'll Learn


Why Anncy never chased titles but still rose to the C-suite


How passion builds confidence faster than career planning


What imposter syndrome really looks like at senior levels


Why over-sacrificing can lead to burnout


How to rethink presence in parenting and leadership


What changes emotionally when your child leaves for college


How to model boundaries and behavior for teams and family


Why legacy is about how you make people feel



Top Takeaways


Confidence is built through doing, not knowing


Imposter syndrome often signals growth, not failure


You don’t need a 10-year plan to build a meaningful career


Over-functioning eventually comes at a cost


Children learn more from what we model than what we say


Leadership and parenting require the same self-awareness


Preparing for the next life chapter is an act of leadership


Legacy is rooted in care, kindness, and impact



About Anncy Rowe
Anncy Rowe is a seasoned beauty industry executive and currently serves as Chief Commercial Officer at Rodan + Fields, where she is helping lead the brand through a major omni-channel transformation. She previously held senior leadership roles at L’Oréal, including on the Maybelline brand, and served as CMO of StriVectin. A passionate advocate for helping women feel confident at every stage of life, Anncy is also a mother of two and a leader deeply committed to purpose-driven growth, culture, and legacy.
Chapters
00:00 Loving the work without chasing the title 02:31 Rising through the ranks at L’Oréal 06:02 Confidence, tenacity, and imposter syndrome 10:07 Passion, purpose, and finding your industry 13:53 Leading Rodan + Fields through omni-channel change 18:56 Immigration, upbringing, and resilience 25:17 Over-sacrificing, burnout, and red-eye wake-up calls 27:35 Self-care, faith, and filling your cup 32:51 Modeling boundaries for teams 36:29 Dropping a child off at college 39:43 Redefining identity and...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Anncy Rowe (Rodan +Fields, L'Oreal, Avon, Strivectin) From L’Oréal to C-Suite: The Confidence Pattern That Changed Everything #023]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Anncy Rowe has spent decades building iconic beauty brands, but this conversation goes far beyond titles and milestones. In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the Chief Commercial Officer of Rodan + Fields to explore what it really looks like to grow into leadership over time while navigating identity, motherhood, ambition, and legacy.</p>
<p>Anncy reflects on rising through the ranks at L’Oréal without ever chasing a specific end goal, driven instead by passion for the work itself. She opens up about navigating imposter syndrome at every new level, being the only one in the room who looked like her, and learning to trust that she belonged. From loving the craft of brand building to leading a major omni-channel transformation at Rodan + Fields, Anncy shares how purpose and confidence are built through experience, not certainty.</p>
<p>The conversation also moves deeply into parenthood and seasons of life. Anncy shares the emotional reality of red-eye flights for birthdays her son would never remember, the wake-up call of burnout, and the moment of dropping her daughter off at college that felt like an “extraction.” She reflects on what it means to redefine yourself as your children grow more independent, asking the powerful question, “Who are you when you’re no longer caring for someone?”</p>
<p>This is an honest, thoughtful episode about ambition without a blueprint, leading with care, modeling behavior for teams and children, and preparing for the next chapter with intention. It’s a conversation for anyone navigating growth, change, and the evolving definition of success.</p>
<p></p>
<p>In This Episode You'll Learn</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Why Anncy never chased titles but still rose to the C-suite</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How passion builds confidence faster than career planning</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What imposter syndrome really looks like at senior levels</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why over-sacrificing can lead to burnout</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to rethink presence in parenting and leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What changes emotionally when your child leaves for college</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to model boundaries and behavior for teams and family</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why legacy is about how you make people feel</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h2></h2>
<p>Top Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Confidence is built through doing, not knowing</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Imposter syndrome often signals growth, not failure</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>You don’t need a 10-year plan to build a meaningful career</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Over-functioning eventually comes at a cost</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Children learn more from what we model than what we say</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Leadership and parenting require the same self-awareness</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Preparing for the next life chapter is an act of leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Legacy is rooted in care, kindness, and impact</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p></p>
<p>About Anncy Rowe</p>
<p>Anncy Rowe is a seasoned beauty industry executive and currently serves as Chief Commercial Officer at Rodan + Fields, where she is helping lead the brand through a major omni-channel transformation. She previously held senior leadership roles at L’Oréal, including on the Maybelline brand, and served as CMO of StriVectin. A passionate advocate for helping women feel confident at every stage of life, Anncy is also a mother of two and a leader deeply committed to purpose-driven growth, culture, and legacy.</p>
<p>Chapters</p>
<p>00:00 Loving the work without chasing the title<br /> 02:31 Rising through the ranks at L’Oréal<br /> 06:02 Confidence, tenacity, and imposter syndrome<br /> 10:07 Passion, purpose, and finding your industry<br /> 13:53 Leading Rodan + Fields through omni-channel change<br /> 18:56 Immigration, upbringing, and resilience<br /> 25:17 Over-sacrificing, burnout, and red-eye wake-up calls<br /> 27:35 Self-care, faith, and filling your cup<br /> 32:51 Modeling boundaries for teams<br /> 36:29 Dropping a child off at college<br /> 39:43 Redefining identity and the next chapter<br /> 42:49 Legacy, kindness, and being remembered</p>
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                    <![CDATA[Anncy Rowe has spent decades building iconic beauty brands, but this conversation goes far beyond titles and milestones. In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the Chief Commercial Officer of Rodan + Fields to explore what it really looks like to grow into leadership over time while navigating identity, motherhood, ambition, and legacy.
Anncy reflects on rising through the ranks at L’Oréal without ever chasing a specific end goal, driven instead by passion for the work itself. She opens up about navigating imposter syndrome at every new level, being the only one in the room who looked like her, and learning to trust that she belonged. From loving the craft of brand building to leading a major omni-channel transformation at Rodan + Fields, Anncy shares how purpose and confidence are built through experience, not certainty.
The conversation also moves deeply into parenthood and seasons of life. Anncy shares the emotional reality of red-eye flights for birthdays her son would never remember, the wake-up call of burnout, and the moment of dropping her daughter off at college that felt like an “extraction.” She reflects on what it means to redefine yourself as your children grow more independent, asking the powerful question, “Who are you when you’re no longer caring for someone?”
This is an honest, thoughtful episode about ambition without a blueprint, leading with care, modeling behavior for teams and children, and preparing for the next chapter with intention. It’s a conversation for anyone navigating growth, change, and the evolving definition of success.

In This Episode You'll Learn


Why Anncy never chased titles but still rose to the C-suite


How passion builds confidence faster than career planning


What imposter syndrome really looks like at senior levels


Why over-sacrificing can lead to burnout


How to rethink presence in parenting and leadership


What changes emotionally when your child leaves for college


How to model boundaries and behavior for teams and family


Why legacy is about how you make people feel



Top Takeaways


Confidence is built through doing, not knowing


Imposter syndrome often signals growth, not failure


You don’t need a 10-year plan to build a meaningful career


Over-functioning eventually comes at a cost


Children learn more from what we model than what we say


Leadership and parenting require the same self-awareness


Preparing for the next life chapter is an act of leadership


Legacy is rooted in care, kindness, and impact



About Anncy Rowe
Anncy Rowe is a seasoned beauty industry executive and currently serves as Chief Commercial Officer at Rodan + Fields, where she is helping lead the brand through a major omni-channel transformation. She previously held senior leadership roles at L’Oréal, including on the Maybelline brand, and served as CMO of StriVectin. A passionate advocate for helping women feel confident at every stage of life, Anncy is also a mother of two and a leader deeply committed to purpose-driven growth, culture, and legacy.
Chapters
00:00 Loving the work without chasing the title 02:31 Rising through the ranks at L’Oréal 06:02 Confidence, tenacity, and imposter syndrome 10:07 Passion, purpose, and finding your industry 13:53 Leading Rodan + Fields through omni-channel change 18:56 Immigration, upbringing, and resilience 25:17 Over-sacrificing, burnout, and red-eye wake-up calls 27:35 Self-care, faith, and filling your cup 32:51 Modeling boundaries for teams 36:29 Dropping a child off at college 39:43 Redefining identity and...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rob LoCascio (LivePerson, KID Company, UareAI): He Built A $6bn Business and Left To Start Over... Here's Why! #022]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2026 13:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>Robert LoCascio went public at 33, helped invent web chat, and spent nearly three decades building LivePerson into a $6 billion company. What followed was not the ending he expected.</p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the founder of LivePerson for a rare and deeply honest conversation about leadership under extreme pressure, navigating macro events like the dotcom crash, 9/11, and COVID, and what happens when the greatest threat comes from inside the system. Rob opens up about activist investors, an unplanned exit from the company he built over 28 years, and the emotional toll that season took on his identity and his family.</p>
<p>Rob shares the hard-earned leadership lessons that shaped him, from the moment a board member told him “just don’t bullshit them,” to why the best response to chaos is often no response at all. He explains why slowing down during crises creates clarity, how fear-based decisions compound risk, and why your weakest links matter most when you’re under attack. The conversation also explores fatherhood, marriage later in life, and what it looks like to rebuild from scratch.</p>
<p>Today, Rob is starting again in a completely different space, building a kid-first AI product designed around safety, creativity, and bringing families back into connection. This episode is a masterclass in resilience, integrity, and what it really means to begin again when the game changes.</p>
<p></p>
<p>In This Episode You’ll Learn</p>
<p>- What it’s like to take a company public at 33 <br />- How to lead through layoffs with honesty and integrity <br />- Why slowing down is critical during macro crises <br />- How fear distorts decision-making at the executive level <br />- What activist investors really do behind the scenes <br />- How leadership pressure spills into family life <br />- Why rebuilding sometimes means starting from zero <br />- How fatherhood reshaped Rob’s definition of success <br />- Why imposter syndrome may actually be your inner child <br />- How to think about AI, kids, and creativity responsibly <br /><br />Top Takeaways<br /> <br />- Truth builds long-term trust, even in the hardest moments <br />- The worst decisions are made when fear is driving <br />- Macro events should be observed before they’re reacted to <br />- Weak leadership links are exposed under pressure <br />- You cannot dump the business onto your family and stay connected <br />- Success brings visibility, and visibility brings risk <br />- Resilience is modeled, not taught <br />- No one can take your ability to create and rebuild <br />- Starting over can unlock deeper purpose <br /><br />About Robert LoCascio <br />Robert LoCascio is the founder of LivePerson and a pioneer of internet-era customer communication, credited with inventing web chat. He took LivePerson public in 2000 and led the company for nearly 30 years, growing it to a peak market capitalization of over $6 billion. Today, Rob is the founder of KID, a kid-first AI product designed to empower creativity, ensure safety, and strengthen family connection. He is also a father of three and a lifelong builder focused on integrity, imagination, and impact.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:05:52) - Navigating Challenges: Lessons from the Dot Com Era</li><li>(00:12:53) - Growth Through Adversity: The Impact of COVID-19</li><li>(00:19:46) - Balancing Act: Family Life and High-Pressure Careers</li><li>(00:29:53) - From Public Company to Startup: A New Chapter</li><li>(00:30:16) - The Impact of Activist Investors</li><li>(00:34:22) - Navigating Existential Threats in Business</li><li>(00:38:42) - Family Dynamics During Corporate Turmoil</li><li>(00:43:01) - Rebuilding After Exit: A Personal Journey</li><li>(00:47:08) - Lessons Learned from Leadership Challenges</li><li>(00:49:59) - Innovating for the Next Generation: A New Venture</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Robert LoCascio went public at 33, helped invent web chat, and spent nearly three decades building LivePerson into a $6 billion company. What followed was not the ending he expected.
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the founder of LivePerson for a rare and deeply honest conversation about leadership under extreme pressure, navigating macro events like the dotcom crash, 9/11, and COVID, and what happens when the greatest threat comes from inside the system. Rob opens up about activist investors, an unplanned exit from the company he built over 28 years, and the emotional toll that season took on his identity and his family.
Rob shares the hard-earned leadership lessons that shaped him, from the moment a board member told him “just don’t bullshit them,” to why the best response to chaos is often no response at all. He explains why slowing down during crises creates clarity, how fear-based decisions compound risk, and why your weakest links matter most when you’re under attack. The conversation also explores fatherhood, marriage later in life, and what it looks like to rebuild from scratch.
Today, Rob is starting again in a completely different space, building a kid-first AI product designed around safety, creativity, and bringing families back into connection. This episode is a masterclass in resilience, integrity, and what it really means to begin again when the game changes.

In This Episode You’ll Learn
- What it’s like to take a company public at 33 - How to lead through layoffs with honesty and integrity - Why slowing down is critical during macro crises - How fear distorts decision-making at the executive level - What activist investors really do behind the scenes - How leadership pressure spills into family life - Why rebuilding sometimes means starting from zero - How fatherhood reshaped Rob’s definition of success - Why imposter syndrome may actually be your inner child - How to think about AI, kids, and creativity responsibly Top Takeaways - Truth builds long-term trust, even in the hardest moments - The worst decisions are made when fear is driving - Macro events should be observed before they’re reacted to - Weak leadership links are exposed under pressure - You cannot dump the business onto your family and stay connected - Success brings visibility, and visibility brings risk - Resilience is modeled, not taught - No one can take your ability to create and rebuild - Starting over can unlock deeper purpose About Robert LoCascio Robert LoCascio is the founder of LivePerson and a pioneer of internet-era customer communication, credited with inventing web chat. He took LivePerson public in 2000 and led the company for nearly 30 years, growing it to a peak market capitalization of over $6 billion. Today, Rob is the founder of KID, a kid-first AI product designed to empower creativity, ensure safety, and strengthen family connection. He is also a father of three and a lifelong builder focused on integrity, imagination, and impact.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rob LoCascio (LivePerson, KID Company, UareAI): He Built A $6bn Business and Left To Start Over... Here's Why! #022]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Robert LoCascio went public at 33, helped invent web chat, and spent nearly three decades building LivePerson into a $6 billion company. What followed was not the ending he expected.</p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the founder of LivePerson for a rare and deeply honest conversation about leadership under extreme pressure, navigating macro events like the dotcom crash, 9/11, and COVID, and what happens when the greatest threat comes from inside the system. Rob opens up about activist investors, an unplanned exit from the company he built over 28 years, and the emotional toll that season took on his identity and his family.</p>
<p>Rob shares the hard-earned leadership lessons that shaped him, from the moment a board member told him “just don’t bullshit them,” to why the best response to chaos is often no response at all. He explains why slowing down during crises creates clarity, how fear-based decisions compound risk, and why your weakest links matter most when you’re under attack. The conversation also explores fatherhood, marriage later in life, and what it looks like to rebuild from scratch.</p>
<p>Today, Rob is starting again in a completely different space, building a kid-first AI product designed around safety, creativity, and bringing families back into connection. This episode is a masterclass in resilience, integrity, and what it really means to begin again when the game changes.</p>
<p></p>
<p>In This Episode You’ll Learn</p>
<p>- What it’s like to take a company public at 33 <br />- How to lead through layoffs with honesty and integrity <br />- Why slowing down is critical during macro crises <br />- How fear distorts decision-making at the executive level <br />- What activist investors really do behind the scenes <br />- How leadership pressure spills into family life <br />- Why rebuilding sometimes means starting from zero <br />- How fatherhood reshaped Rob’s definition of success <br />- Why imposter syndrome may actually be your inner child <br />- How to think about AI, kids, and creativity responsibly <br /><br />Top Takeaways<br /> <br />- Truth builds long-term trust, even in the hardest moments <br />- The worst decisions are made when fear is driving <br />- Macro events should be observed before they’re reacted to <br />- Weak leadership links are exposed under pressure <br />- You cannot dump the business onto your family and stay connected <br />- Success brings visibility, and visibility brings risk <br />- Resilience is modeled, not taught <br />- No one can take your ability to create and rebuild <br />- Starting over can unlock deeper purpose <br /><br />About Robert LoCascio <br />Robert LoCascio is the founder of LivePerson and a pioneer of internet-era customer communication, credited with inventing web chat. He took LivePerson public in 2000 and led the company for nearly 30 years, growing it to a peak market capitalization of over $6 billion. Today, Rob is the founder of KID, a kid-first AI product designed to empower creativity, ensure safety, and strengthen family connection. He is also a father of three and a lifelong builder focused on integrity, imagination, and impact.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Robert LoCascio went public at 33, helped invent web chat, and spent nearly three decades building LivePerson into a $6 billion company. What followed was not the ending he expected.
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the founder of LivePerson for a rare and deeply honest conversation about leadership under extreme pressure, navigating macro events like the dotcom crash, 9/11, and COVID, and what happens when the greatest threat comes from inside the system. Rob opens up about activist investors, an unplanned exit from the company he built over 28 years, and the emotional toll that season took on his identity and his family.
Rob shares the hard-earned leadership lessons that shaped him, from the moment a board member told him “just don’t bullshit them,” to why the best response to chaos is often no response at all. He explains why slowing down during crises creates clarity, how fear-based decisions compound risk, and why your weakest links matter most when you’re under attack. The conversation also explores fatherhood, marriage later in life, and what it looks like to rebuild from scratch.
Today, Rob is starting again in a completely different space, building a kid-first AI product designed around safety, creativity, and bringing families back into connection. This episode is a masterclass in resilience, integrity, and what it really means to begin again when the game changes.

In This Episode You’ll Learn
- What it’s like to take a company public at 33 - How to lead through layoffs with honesty and integrity - Why slowing down is critical during macro crises - How fear distorts decision-making at the executive level - What activist investors really do behind the scenes - How leadership pressure spills into family life - Why rebuilding sometimes means starting from zero - How fatherhood reshaped Rob’s definition of success - Why imposter syndrome may actually be your inner child - How to think about AI, kids, and creativity responsibly Top Takeaways - Truth builds long-term trust, even in the hardest moments - The worst decisions are made when fear is driving - Macro events should be observed before they’re reacted to - Weak leadership links are exposed under pressure - You cannot dump the business onto your family and stay connected - Success brings visibility, and visibility brings risk - Resilience is modeled, not taught - No one can take your ability to create and rebuild - Starting over can unlock deeper purpose About Robert LoCascio Robert LoCascio is the founder of LivePerson and a pioneer of internet-era customer communication, credited with inventing web chat. He took LivePerson public in 2000 and led the company for nearly 30 years, growing it to a peak market capitalization of over $6 billion. Today, Rob is the founder of KID, a kid-first AI product designed to empower creativity, ensure safety, and strengthen family connection. He is also a father of three and a lifelong builder focused on integrity, imagination, and impact.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jessica Serrano (Burger King, Taco Bell, Dig Inn, Bagel Brands) The Power of Motherhood, Confidence and Multi-Generational Family Living #021]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 13:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>Jessica Serrano has spent nearly two decades shaping some of the world’s most loved food brands, but what makes her story hit is the way she’s built a life that can hold both motherhood and executive ambition.</p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the CMO of Bagel Brands (Einstein Bros and Noah’s Bagels) to talk about what it really takes to lead at a high level without feeling like you’re constantly choosing between work and family. Jessica shares the full circle moment of starting a new CMO role on the exact day her twin daughters started kindergarten, with three generations in one car on day one. From multi generational living and cross country moves to ruthless prioritization and energy protection, she breaks down the real systems that keep her grounded.</p>
<p>They also go deep on career growth, including the hard lessons that came with moving into the C suite, why conviction matters when you report to a founder, and how she evaluates roles using a skill building matrix so she doesn’t fall in love with the fireplace. If you’re trying to grow your career, stay present at home, and lead with clarity, this conversation will give you both perspective and practical tools.</p>
<p>In This Episode You’ll Learn</p>
<ul>
<li>How Jessica makes big career moves without destabilizing her family life</li>
<li>Why the first 15 minutes after work are the highest impact parenting minutes</li>
<li>How multi generational living can unlock ambition without guilt</li>
<li>What changes when you move from director to the C suite</li>
<li>How to lead through others when you’re used to being in the trenches</li>
<li>Why protecting energy matters more than protecting hours</li>
<li>How to make career decisions using a skill building matrix</li>
</ul>
<p><br />Top Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>Parenthoood does not shrink ambition, it clarifies it</li>
<li>You can do both, but usually not with traditional life constructs</li>
<li>Presence is an energy decision, not just a time decision</li>
<li>Strong leaders bring conviction, not compliance</li>
<li>The right support system makes travel and demanding roles sustainable</li>
<li>Work and life do not need strict buckets, they need intention and alignment</li>
</ul>
<p><br />About Jessica Serrano</p>
<p>Jessica Serrano is the Chief Marketing Officer of Bagel Brands, home to Einstein Bros and Noah’s Bagels. She has led culturally resonant marketing across some of the biggest names in food, including leadership roles at Taco Bell and Burger King, and she helped drive brand and growth as CMO at Dig Inn. Jessica is known for blending business rigor with warmth and creativity, and for building teams and brand strategies that connect deeply with consumers while staying grounded in what matters most at home.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:02:54) - The Decision to Move for Career Opportunities</li><li>(00:08:42) - The Impact of Motherhood on Career Ambitions</li><li>(00:14:53) - Maintaining Family Connections Amidst Career Demands</li><li>(00:17:40) - Transitioning to Executive Roles</li><li>(00:26:26) - Career Growth Through Unconventional Roles</li><li>(00:29:46) - Balancing Work and Family Life</li><li>(00:35:21) - Managing Stress in New Roles</li><li>(00:38:31) - Keeping Your Cup Full</li><li>(00:41:36) - Empathy in Leadership</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jessica Serrano has spent nearly two decades shaping some of the world’s most loved food brands, but what makes her story hit is the way she’s built a life that can hold both motherhood and executive ambition.
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the CMO of Bagel Brands (Einstein Bros and Noah’s Bagels) to talk about what it really takes to lead at a high level without feeling like you’re constantly choosing between work and family. Jessica shares the full circle moment of starting a new CMO role on the exact day her twin daughters started kindergarten, with three generations in one car on day one. From multi generational living and cross country moves to ruthless prioritization and energy protection, she breaks down the real systems that keep her grounded.
They also go deep on career growth, including the hard lessons that came with moving into the C suite, why conviction matters when you report to a founder, and how she evaluates roles using a skill building matrix so she doesn’t fall in love with the fireplace. If you’re trying to grow your career, stay present at home, and lead with clarity, this conversation will give you both perspective and practical tools.
In This Episode You’ll Learn

How Jessica makes big career moves without destabilizing her family life
Why the first 15 minutes after work are the highest impact parenting minutes
How multi generational living can unlock ambition without guilt
What changes when you move from director to the C suite
How to lead through others when you’re used to being in the trenches
Why protecting energy matters more than protecting hours
How to make career decisions using a skill building matrix

Top Takeaways

Parenthoood does not shrink ambition, it clarifies it
You can do both, but usually not with traditional life constructs
Presence is an energy decision, not just a time decision
Strong leaders bring conviction, not compliance
The right support system makes travel and demanding roles sustainable
Work and life do not need strict buckets, they need intention and alignment

About Jessica Serrano
Jessica Serrano is the Chief Marketing Officer of Bagel Brands, home to Einstein Bros and Noah’s Bagels. She has led culturally resonant marketing across some of the biggest names in food, including leadership roles at Taco Bell and Burger King, and she helped drive brand and growth as CMO at Dig Inn. Jessica is known for blending business rigor with warmth and creativity, and for building teams and brand strategies that connect deeply with consumers while staying grounded in what matters most at home.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jessica Serrano (Burger King, Taco Bell, Dig Inn, Bagel Brands) The Power of Motherhood, Confidence and Multi-Generational Family Living #021]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Jessica Serrano has spent nearly two decades shaping some of the world’s most loved food brands, but what makes her story hit is the way she’s built a life that can hold both motherhood and executive ambition.</p>
<p>In this episode of CEOs &amp; ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the CMO of Bagel Brands (Einstein Bros and Noah’s Bagels) to talk about what it really takes to lead at a high level without feeling like you’re constantly choosing between work and family. Jessica shares the full circle moment of starting a new CMO role on the exact day her twin daughters started kindergarten, with three generations in one car on day one. From multi generational living and cross country moves to ruthless prioritization and energy protection, she breaks down the real systems that keep her grounded.</p>
<p>They also go deep on career growth, including the hard lessons that came with moving into the C suite, why conviction matters when you report to a founder, and how she evaluates roles using a skill building matrix so she doesn’t fall in love with the fireplace. If you’re trying to grow your career, stay present at home, and lead with clarity, this conversation will give you both perspective and practical tools.</p>
<p>In This Episode You’ll Learn</p>
<ul>
<li>How Jessica makes big career moves without destabilizing her family life</li>
<li>Why the first 15 minutes after work are the highest impact parenting minutes</li>
<li>How multi generational living can unlock ambition without guilt</li>
<li>What changes when you move from director to the C suite</li>
<li>How to lead through others when you’re used to being in the trenches</li>
<li>Why protecting energy matters more than protecting hours</li>
<li>How to make career decisions using a skill building matrix</li>
</ul>
<p><br />Top Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>Parenthoood does not shrink ambition, it clarifies it</li>
<li>You can do both, but usually not with traditional life constructs</li>
<li>Presence is an energy decision, not just a time decision</li>
<li>Strong leaders bring conviction, not compliance</li>
<li>The right support system makes travel and demanding roles sustainable</li>
<li>Work and life do not need strict buckets, they need intention and alignment</li>
</ul>
<p><br />About Jessica Serrano</p>
<p>Jessica Serrano is the Chief Marketing Officer of Bagel Brands, home to Einstein Bros and Noah’s Bagels. She has led culturally resonant marketing across some of the biggest names in food, including leadership roles at Taco Bell and Burger King, and she helped drive brand and growth as CMO at Dig Inn. Jessica is known for blending business rigor with warmth and creativity, and for building teams and brand strategies that connect deeply with consumers while staying grounded in what matters most at home.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jessica Serrano has spent nearly two decades shaping some of the world’s most loved food brands, but what makes her story hit is the way she’s built a life that can hold both motherhood and executive ambition.
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin Rice sits down with the CMO of Bagel Brands (Einstein Bros and Noah’s Bagels) to talk about what it really takes to lead at a high level without feeling like you’re constantly choosing between work and family. Jessica shares the full circle moment of starting a new CMO role on the exact day her twin daughters started kindergarten, with three generations in one car on day one. From multi generational living and cross country moves to ruthless prioritization and energy protection, she breaks down the real systems that keep her grounded.
They also go deep on career growth, including the hard lessons that came with moving into the C suite, why conviction matters when you report to a founder, and how she evaluates roles using a skill building matrix so she doesn’t fall in love with the fireplace. If you’re trying to grow your career, stay present at home, and lead with clarity, this conversation will give you both perspective and practical tools.
In This Episode You’ll Learn

How Jessica makes big career moves without destabilizing her family life
Why the first 15 minutes after work are the highest impact parenting minutes
How multi generational living can unlock ambition without guilt
What changes when you move from director to the C suite
How to lead through others when you’re used to being in the trenches
Why protecting energy matters more than protecting hours
How to make career decisions using a skill building matrix

Top Takeaways

Parenthoood does not shrink ambition, it clarifies it
You can do both, but usually not with traditional life constructs
Presence is an energy decision, not just a time decision
Strong leaders bring conviction, not compliance
The right support system makes travel and demanding roles sustainable
Work and life do not need strict buckets, they need intention and alignment

About Jessica Serrano
Jessica Serrano is the Chief Marketing Officer of Bagel Brands, home to Einstein Bros and Noah’s Bagels. She has led culturally resonant marketing across some of the biggest names in food, including leadership roles at Taco Bell and Burger King, and she helped drive brand and growth as CMO at Dig Inn. Jessica is known for blending business rigor with warmth and creativity, and for building teams and brand strategies that connect deeply with consumers while staying grounded in what matters most at home.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rishad Tobaccowala (Pulicis Group & The Rethinking Work Platform) A Conversation on The Future of The Working World, Routine and Communication #020]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2025 23:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>Rishad Tobaccowala believes work is changing more between 2020 and 2029 than it did in the previous fifty years. In this conversation, he joins Kevin Rice to unpack what those waves of change look like across society, demographics, technology, marketplaces, and emotion, and why return-to-office debates miss the bigger picture. Rishad shares practical ways leaders can design organizations around trust, flexibility, dignity, and outcomes so people and performance both thrive.</p>
<p>They dive into how to measure engagement instead of attendance, why skills will matter more than roles, and how to build cultures that create belonging while still raising the bar. Rishad also previews his new Rethinking Work Platform and show, a resource hub for leaders navigating the next era of work with clarity, courage, and humanity.</p>
<p>In this episode you’ll learn:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why the 2020s are a once-in-a-career reset for how work gets done</li>
<li>How to lead for outcomes, not optics, and move beyond attendance theater</li>
<li>The shift from jobs to skills and what that means for talent, learning, and pay</li>
<li>Practical ways to build trust, flexibility, and psychological safety without losing accountability</li>
<li>New metrics that capture engagement, energy, and effectiveness</li>
<li>How to communicate change so people feel seen, not managed</li>
</ul>
<p>Top takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>Work design should start with human reality and end with business outcomes</li>
<li>Engagement beats enforcement when you want performance that lasts</li>
<li>Hybrid works when rituals, tools, and trust are explicit</li>
<li>Invest in skills, not just titles, to future-proof teams and careers</li>
<li>Leaders need a point of view, a plan, and the humility to iterate</li>
</ul>
<p>About Rishad Tobaccowala<br />Rishad Tobaccowala is the founder of the Rethinking Work Platform, a new initiative helping leaders navigate a decade of unprecedented change with content, curated resources, and actionable guidance. A globally respected advisor and storyteller, Rishad has spent his career helping companies align people, technology, and strategy so work becomes both more human and more effective.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Links:</p>
<p><a href="https://rishadtobaccowala.com/">⁠Rishad Tabaccowala Home Page⁠</a></p>
<p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-next/id1638921761">⁠What's Next? Podcast ⁠</a></p>
<p><a href="https://rishadtobaccowala.com/rethinking-work">⁠Rethinking Work by Rishad Tobaccowala ⁠</a></p>
<p><a href="https://rishadtobaccowala.com/restoring-the-soul-of-business">⁠Restoring the Soul of Business ⁠</a></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:01:15) - Rethinking Work: The Central Role of Purpose</li><li>(00:03:01) - The Impact of AI on Job Security</li><li>(00:05:54) - Embracing Change: Adapting to AI and HI</li><li>(00:08:58) - The Shift from Jobs to Meaningful Work</li><li>(00:11:48) - Cultural Influences: Growing Up in India</li><li>(00:14:41) - Building a Career: Loyalty and Opportunities</li><li>(00:17:28) - Corporate Culture: Support During Personal Crises</li><li>(00:23:31) - The Future of Work: Attracting Talent</li><li>(00:26:08) - Morning Routines: The Key to a Successful Day</li><li>(00:42:47) - Thinking Like an Immigrant: Embracing Change and Opportunity</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rishad Tobaccowala believes work is changing more between 2020 and 2029 than it did in the previous fifty years. In this conversation, he joins Kevin Rice to unpack what those waves of change look like across society, demographics, technology, marketplaces, and emotion, and why return-to-office debates miss the bigger picture. Rishad shares practical ways leaders can design organizations around trust, flexibility, dignity, and outcomes so people and performance both thrive.
They dive into how to measure engagement instead of attendance, why skills will matter more than roles, and how to build cultures that create belonging while still raising the bar. Rishad also previews his new Rethinking Work Platform and show, a resource hub for leaders navigating the next era of work with clarity, courage, and humanity.
In this episode you’ll learn:

Why the 2020s are a once-in-a-career reset for how work gets done
How to lead for outcomes, not optics, and move beyond attendance theater
The shift from jobs to skills and what that means for talent, learning, and pay
Practical ways to build trust, flexibility, and psychological safety without losing accountability
New metrics that capture engagement, energy, and effectiveness
How to communicate change so people feel seen, not managed

Top takeaways

Work design should start with human reality and end with business outcomes
Engagement beats enforcement when you want performance that lasts
Hybrid works when rituals, tools, and trust are explicit
Invest in skills, not just titles, to future-proof teams and careers
Leaders need a point of view, a plan, and the humility to iterate

About Rishad TobaccowalaRishad Tobaccowala is the founder of the Rethinking Work Platform, a new initiative helping leaders navigate a decade of unprecedented change with content, curated resources, and actionable guidance. A globally respected advisor and storyteller, Rishad has spent his career helping companies align people, technology, and strategy so work becomes both more human and more effective.

Links:
⁠Rishad Tabaccowala Home Page⁠
⁠What's Next? Podcast ⁠
⁠Rethinking Work by Rishad Tobaccowala ⁠
⁠Restoring the Soul of Business ⁠]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rishad Tobaccowala (Pulicis Group & The Rethinking Work Platform) A Conversation on The Future of The Working World, Routine and Communication #020]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>Rishad Tobaccowala believes work is changing more between 2020 and 2029 than it did in the previous fifty years. In this conversation, he joins Kevin Rice to unpack what those waves of change look like across society, demographics, technology, marketplaces, and emotion, and why return-to-office debates miss the bigger picture. Rishad shares practical ways leaders can design organizations around trust, flexibility, dignity, and outcomes so people and performance both thrive.</p>
<p>They dive into how to measure engagement instead of attendance, why skills will matter more than roles, and how to build cultures that create belonging while still raising the bar. Rishad also previews his new Rethinking Work Platform and show, a resource hub for leaders navigating the next era of work with clarity, courage, and humanity.</p>
<p>In this episode you’ll learn:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why the 2020s are a once-in-a-career reset for how work gets done</li>
<li>How to lead for outcomes, not optics, and move beyond attendance theater</li>
<li>The shift from jobs to skills and what that means for talent, learning, and pay</li>
<li>Practical ways to build trust, flexibility, and psychological safety without losing accountability</li>
<li>New metrics that capture engagement, energy, and effectiveness</li>
<li>How to communicate change so people feel seen, not managed</li>
</ul>
<p>Top takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>Work design should start with human reality and end with business outcomes</li>
<li>Engagement beats enforcement when you want performance that lasts</li>
<li>Hybrid works when rituals, tools, and trust are explicit</li>
<li>Invest in skills, not just titles, to future-proof teams and careers</li>
<li>Leaders need a point of view, a plan, and the humility to iterate</li>
</ul>
<p>About Rishad Tobaccowala<br />Rishad Tobaccowala is the founder of the Rethinking Work Platform, a new initiative helping leaders navigate a decade of unprecedented change with content, curated resources, and actionable guidance. A globally respected advisor and storyteller, Rishad has spent his career helping companies align people, technology, and strategy so work becomes both more human and more effective.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Links:</p>
<p><a href="https://rishadtobaccowala.com/">⁠Rishad Tabaccowala Home Page⁠</a></p>
<p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-next/id1638921761">⁠What's Next? Podcast ⁠</a></p>
<p><a href="https://rishadtobaccowala.com/rethinking-work">⁠Rethinking Work by Rishad Tobaccowala ⁠</a></p>
<p><a href="https://rishadtobaccowala.com/restoring-the-soul-of-business">⁠Restoring the Soul of Business ⁠</a></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Rishad Tobaccowala believes work is changing more between 2020 and 2029 than it did in the previous fifty years. In this conversation, he joins Kevin Rice to unpack what those waves of change look like across society, demographics, technology, marketplaces, and emotion, and why return-to-office debates miss the bigger picture. Rishad shares practical ways leaders can design organizations around trust, flexibility, dignity, and outcomes so people and performance both thrive.
They dive into how to measure engagement instead of attendance, why skills will matter more than roles, and how to build cultures that create belonging while still raising the bar. Rishad also previews his new Rethinking Work Platform and show, a resource hub for leaders navigating the next era of work with clarity, courage, and humanity.
In this episode you’ll learn:

Why the 2020s are a once-in-a-career reset for how work gets done
How to lead for outcomes, not optics, and move beyond attendance theater
The shift from jobs to skills and what that means for talent, learning, and pay
Practical ways to build trust, flexibility, and psychological safety without losing accountability
New metrics that capture engagement, energy, and effectiveness
How to communicate change so people feel seen, not managed

Top takeaways

Work design should start with human reality and end with business outcomes
Engagement beats enforcement when you want performance that lasts
Hybrid works when rituals, tools, and trust are explicit
Invest in skills, not just titles, to future-proof teams and careers
Leaders need a point of view, a plan, and the humility to iterate

About Rishad TobaccowalaRishad Tobaccowala is the founder of the Rethinking Work Platform, a new initiative helping leaders navigate a decade of unprecedented change with content, curated resources, and actionable guidance. A globally respected advisor and storyteller, Rishad has spent his career helping companies align people, technology, and strategy so work becomes both more human and more effective.

Links:
⁠Rishad Tabaccowala Home Page⁠
⁠What's Next? Podcast ⁠
⁠Rethinking Work by Rishad Tobaccowala ⁠
⁠Restoring the Soul of Business ⁠]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Deborah Palmer Keiser (Pair of Thieves, Boardriders, Yeezy, Timbuk2) Navigating Career and Parenting: From Provider to Present: A COO’s Wake-Up Call at Home #019]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 02:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this raw, honest, and deeply reflective conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Deborah Palmer Keiser, global operator, supply-chain builder, fear-tamer, and now COO of Pair of Thieves, to explore the cost of ambition, the courage to repair, and the surprising ways our kids teach us to lead. <br /><br />Deborah spent three decades opening markets, fixing broken supply chains, and resurrecting brands across the world, from Gap and Williams-Sonoma to Victoria’s Secret, AllSaints, Boardriders, and Yeezy. She built a reputation as the operator companies call when it’s time to grow up and get serious. But behind the promotions, global travel, and relentless execution was a young daughter quietly taking inventory of all the moments her mom missed. <br /><br />The turning point came when seven-year-old Tilly asked to see the family’s bank balance, not because she cared about money, but because she wanted to know why her mom kept choosing work over her. That one question cracked Deborah open. It sparked a five-year process of repair, reconnection, and relearning how to sit still long enough to paint nails, draw pictures, and rebuild trust one quiet moment at a time. <br /><br />Deborah shares how being fully present with her daughter made her a better leader, more human, more honest, and more clear about her limits. She explains why becoming “truthfully unavailable” actually strengthened her teams, empowered emerging leaders, and deepened commitment across her orgs. And she reflects on what her daughter taught her about emotional articulation, empathy, and creating space for others to be fully themselves. <br /><br />Together, Kevin and Deborah explore what it means to raise a young artist in a world that pushes safe careers, why fearlessness can be both a gift and a trap, and how childhood instability shaped Deborah’s early beliefs about success, security, and motherhood. They talk about global cultures that integrate family into daily life, and what America gets wrong about excellence, work, and worth. <br /><br />This is a conversation about the long road back to connection, the humility of repair, and the kind of leadership that grows not from ambition, but from love. <br /><br />In this episode, you’ll learn: <br />• Why a seven-year-old’s question about money became Deborah’s wake-up call <br />• How to repair a parent–child relationship after years of distance <br />• Why presence, not provision, is the foundation of trust at home <br />• How becoming “unavailable” at work actually made Deborah a stronger leader <br />• What global cultures teach us about integrating family into professional life <br />• How fearlessness can morph into self-isolation and what breaks the cycle <br />• Why dragging people uphill fails and how servant leadership changes everything <br />• How childhood instability shaped Deborah’s early beliefs about success <br />• What it means to raise a young artist in a world obsessed with productivity <br />• Why taking your dream all the way is the antidote to lifelong regret <br /><br />Top Takeaways: <br />• You can provide for your kids and still lose connection with them. Repair requires presence, not perfection. • Kids often tell the truth adults avoid. Listening to them takes courage, but it changes everything. <br />• Leadership rooted in humanity invites teams to step up, not step back. <br />• Your greatest strengths, fearlessness, independence, self-reliance, can become your greatest limits if left unchecked. <br />• The stories we inherit from childhood quietly shape every decision we make as adults. <br />• Openness builds trust. Pretending to “hold it all together” builds distance. <br />• Culture is people. People stay (or leave) because of who you are, not what you produce. <br />• Every path is hard. You might as well choose the one that makes you feel alive. <br />• Taking your dreams seriously is an act of courage and self-respect—and the same is true for your kids. <br /><br />Abou...</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction and Setting the Scene</li><li>(00:03:56) - Deborah's Career Journey and Current Focus</li><li>(00:09:52) - Parenting Insights and Evolving Relationships</li><li>(00:17:47) - Lessons from Leadership and Work-Life Balance</li><li>(00:29:27) - Cultural Perspectives on Work and Family</li><li>(00:31:18) - Cultural Connections and Family Dynamics</li><li>(00:35:58) - The Impact of Travel on Parenting</li><li>(00:41:04) - Navigating Parenting and Personal Growth</li><li>(00:45:45) - Supporting Creative Aspirations</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this raw, honest, and deeply reflective conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Deborah Palmer Keiser, global operator, supply-chain builder, fear-tamer, and now COO of Pair of Thieves, to explore the cost of ambition, the courage to repair, and the surprising ways our kids teach us to lead. Deborah spent three decades opening markets, fixing broken supply chains, and resurrecting brands across the world, from Gap and Williams-Sonoma to Victoria’s Secret, AllSaints, Boardriders, and Yeezy. She built a reputation as the operator companies call when it’s time to grow up and get serious. But behind the promotions, global travel, and relentless execution was a young daughter quietly taking inventory of all the moments her mom missed. The turning point came when seven-year-old Tilly asked to see the family’s bank balance, not because she cared about money, but because she wanted to know why her mom kept choosing work over her. That one question cracked Deborah open. It sparked a five-year process of repair, reconnection, and relearning how to sit still long enough to paint nails, draw pictures, and rebuild trust one quiet moment at a time. Deborah shares how being fully present with her daughter made her a better leader, more human, more honest, and more clear about her limits. She explains why becoming “truthfully unavailable” actually strengthened her teams, empowered emerging leaders, and deepened commitment across her orgs. And she reflects on what her daughter taught her about emotional articulation, empathy, and creating space for others to be fully themselves. Together, Kevin and Deborah explore what it means to raise a young artist in a world that pushes safe careers, why fearlessness can be both a gift and a trap, and how childhood instability shaped Deborah’s early beliefs about success, security, and motherhood. They talk about global cultures that integrate family into daily life, and what America gets wrong about excellence, work, and worth. This is a conversation about the long road back to connection, the humility of repair, and the kind of leadership that grows not from ambition, but from love. In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why a seven-year-old’s question about money became Deborah’s wake-up call • How to repair a parent–child relationship after years of distance • Why presence, not provision, is the foundation of trust at home • How becoming “unavailable” at work actually made Deborah a stronger leader • What global cultures teach us about integrating family into professional life • How fearlessness can morph into self-isolation and what breaks the cycle • Why dragging people uphill fails and how servant leadership changes everything • How childhood instability shaped Deborah’s early beliefs about success • What it means to raise a young artist in a world obsessed with productivity • Why taking your dream all the way is the antidote to lifelong regret Top Takeaways: • You can provide for your kids and still lose connection with them. Repair requires presence, not perfection. • Kids often tell the truth adults avoid. Listening to them takes courage, but it changes everything. • Leadership rooted in humanity invites teams to step up, not step back. • Your greatest strengths, fearlessness, independence, self-reliance, can become your greatest limits if left unchecked. • The stories we inherit from childhood quietly shape every decision we make as adults. • Openness builds trust. Pretending to “hold it all together” builds distance. • Culture is people. People stay (or leave) because of who you are, not what you produce. • Every path is hard. You might as well choose the one that makes you feel alive. • Taking your dreams seriously is an act of courage and self-respect—and the same is true for your kids. Abou...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Deborah Palmer Keiser (Pair of Thieves, Boardriders, Yeezy, Timbuk2) Navigating Career and Parenting: From Provider to Present: A COO’s Wake-Up Call at Home #019]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this raw, honest, and deeply reflective conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Deborah Palmer Keiser, global operator, supply-chain builder, fear-tamer, and now COO of Pair of Thieves, to explore the cost of ambition, the courage to repair, and the surprising ways our kids teach us to lead. <br /><br />Deborah spent three decades opening markets, fixing broken supply chains, and resurrecting brands across the world, from Gap and Williams-Sonoma to Victoria’s Secret, AllSaints, Boardriders, and Yeezy. She built a reputation as the operator companies call when it’s time to grow up and get serious. But behind the promotions, global travel, and relentless execution was a young daughter quietly taking inventory of all the moments her mom missed. <br /><br />The turning point came when seven-year-old Tilly asked to see the family’s bank balance, not because she cared about money, but because she wanted to know why her mom kept choosing work over her. That one question cracked Deborah open. It sparked a five-year process of repair, reconnection, and relearning how to sit still long enough to paint nails, draw pictures, and rebuild trust one quiet moment at a time. <br /><br />Deborah shares how being fully present with her daughter made her a better leader, more human, more honest, and more clear about her limits. She explains why becoming “truthfully unavailable” actually strengthened her teams, empowered emerging leaders, and deepened commitment across her orgs. And she reflects on what her daughter taught her about emotional articulation, empathy, and creating space for others to be fully themselves. <br /><br />Together, Kevin and Deborah explore what it means to raise a young artist in a world that pushes safe careers, why fearlessness can be both a gift and a trap, and how childhood instability shaped Deborah’s early beliefs about success, security, and motherhood. They talk about global cultures that integrate family into daily life, and what America gets wrong about excellence, work, and worth. <br /><br />This is a conversation about the long road back to connection, the humility of repair, and the kind of leadership that grows not from ambition, but from love. <br /><br />In this episode, you’ll learn: <br />• Why a seven-year-old’s question about money became Deborah’s wake-up call <br />• How to repair a parent–child relationship after years of distance <br />• Why presence, not provision, is the foundation of trust at home <br />• How becoming “unavailable” at work actually made Deborah a stronger leader <br />• What global cultures teach us about integrating family into professional life <br />• How fearlessness can morph into self-isolation and what breaks the cycle <br />• Why dragging people uphill fails and how servant leadership changes everything <br />• How childhood instability shaped Deborah’s early beliefs about success <br />• What it means to raise a young artist in a world obsessed with productivity <br />• Why taking your dream all the way is the antidote to lifelong regret <br /><br />Top Takeaways: <br />• You can provide for your kids and still lose connection with them. Repair requires presence, not perfection. • Kids often tell the truth adults avoid. Listening to them takes courage, but it changes everything. <br />• Leadership rooted in humanity invites teams to step up, not step back. <br />• Your greatest strengths, fearlessness, independence, self-reliance, can become your greatest limits if left unchecked. <br />• The stories we inherit from childhood quietly shape every decision we make as adults. <br />• Openness builds trust. Pretending to “hold it all together” builds distance. <br />• Culture is people. People stay (or leave) because of who you are, not what you produce. <br />• Every path is hard. You might as well choose the one that makes you feel alive. <br />• Taking your dreams seriously is an act of courage and self-respect—and the same is true for your kids. <br /><br />About Deborah Palmer Keiser: <br />Deborah is a globally experienced operator and supply-chain leader who has scaled, stabilized, and transformed some of the world’s most iconic retail brands. Across 30+ years, she has held leadership roles at Gap, Williams-Sonoma, Victoria’s Secret, Boardriders, AllSaints, and Yeezy. Today, she serves as COO of Pair of Thieves, guiding mid-size brands through operational maturity and sustainable growth. A devoted mother and champion of young creatives, Deborah blends operational rigor with profound emotional wisdom—leading with transparency, service, and heart.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this raw, honest, and deeply reflective conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Deborah Palmer Keiser, global operator, supply-chain builder, fear-tamer, and now COO of Pair of Thieves, to explore the cost of ambition, the courage to repair, and the surprising ways our kids teach us to lead. Deborah spent three decades opening markets, fixing broken supply chains, and resurrecting brands across the world, from Gap and Williams-Sonoma to Victoria’s Secret, AllSaints, Boardriders, and Yeezy. She built a reputation as the operator companies call when it’s time to grow up and get serious. But behind the promotions, global travel, and relentless execution was a young daughter quietly taking inventory of all the moments her mom missed. The turning point came when seven-year-old Tilly asked to see the family’s bank balance, not because she cared about money, but because she wanted to know why her mom kept choosing work over her. That one question cracked Deborah open. It sparked a five-year process of repair, reconnection, and relearning how to sit still long enough to paint nails, draw pictures, and rebuild trust one quiet moment at a time. Deborah shares how being fully present with her daughter made her a better leader, more human, more honest, and more clear about her limits. She explains why becoming “truthfully unavailable” actually strengthened her teams, empowered emerging leaders, and deepened commitment across her orgs. And she reflects on what her daughter taught her about emotional articulation, empathy, and creating space for others to be fully themselves. Together, Kevin and Deborah explore what it means to raise a young artist in a world that pushes safe careers, why fearlessness can be both a gift and a trap, and how childhood instability shaped Deborah’s early beliefs about success, security, and motherhood. They talk about global cultures that integrate family into daily life, and what America gets wrong about excellence, work, and worth. This is a conversation about the long road back to connection, the humility of repair, and the kind of leadership that grows not from ambition, but from love. In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why a seven-year-old’s question about money became Deborah’s wake-up call • How to repair a parent–child relationship after years of distance • Why presence, not provision, is the foundation of trust at home • How becoming “unavailable” at work actually made Deborah a stronger leader • What global cultures teach us about integrating family into professional life • How fearlessness can morph into self-isolation and what breaks the cycle • Why dragging people uphill fails and how servant leadership changes everything • How childhood instability shaped Deborah’s early beliefs about success • What it means to raise a young artist in a world obsessed with productivity • Why taking your dream all the way is the antidote to lifelong regret Top Takeaways: • You can provide for your kids and still lose connection with them. Repair requires presence, not perfection. • Kids often tell the truth adults avoid. Listening to them takes courage, but it changes everything. • Leadership rooted in humanity invites teams to step up, not step back. • Your greatest strengths, fearlessness, independence, self-reliance, can become your greatest limits if left unchecked. • The stories we inherit from childhood quietly shape every decision we make as adults. • Openness builds trust. Pretending to “hold it all together” builds distance. • Culture is people. People stay (or leave) because of who you are, not what you produce. • Every path is hard. You might as well choose the one that makes you feel alive. • Taking your dreams seriously is an act of courage and self-respect—and the same is true for your kids. Abou...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Amanda Slavin (The Future Frequency & The Seventh Level Book) Understanding The 7 Levels of Engagement: What Most Leaders & Parents Get Wrong #015]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 13:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this thought-provoking and deeply human conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Amanda Slavin, educator, author, consultant, and creator of the Seven Levels of Engagement, to unpack why engagement, not productivity, is the real engine of learning, leadership, and parenting. <br /><br />Amanda shares the origin story of her life’s work, starting with her own childhood report cards that all said the same thing: “Amanda talks too much.” What teachers saw as disruption was actually early evidence of her lifelong obsession with connection, curiosity, and conversation. That spark eventually led her to become a teacher, earn a master’s in education, study pedagogy across wildly different school environments, and discover a taxonomy that would shape the next decade of her career. <br /><br />Together, Kevin and Amanda explore how the Seven Levels of Engagement help decode what’s really happening in classrooms, teams, and families. They talk about why kids melt down when parents get distracted, how quiet quitting begins long before someone stops performing, and why the real opposite of engagement isn’t disengagement, it's apathy. <br /><br />Amanda also opens up about how she applies her framework at home with her five- and three-year-old, and why she collaborates with them on consequences instead of handing down punishments. She explains why connection is the cheat code in parenting, why incentives rarely create long-term motivation, and how repair, presence, and respect model emotional maturity for kids who rely on our nervous systems to regulate. <br /><br />From bedtime battles to bored employees, from distracted leaders to overwhelmed parents, this episode is filled with real stories, practical tools, and the kind of grounded insights that make you rethink how you show up. <br /><br />Whether you lead teams, raise tiny humans, or both, this conversation gives you a blueprint for building cultures of connection in every corner of your life. <br /><br />In this episode, you’ll learn: <br />• Why engagement is not binary and why each of the seven levels matters <br />• How extrinsic rewards shortcut compliance but reduce creativity, curiosity, and connection • The difference between consequences and punishments and why one teaches while the other controls <br />• How a parent’s distraction can drop a child from “inspired and connected” to stressed and overwhelmed <br />• Why apathy, not disengagement, is the real danger zone in the workplace <br />• How to spot quiet quitting before it happens <br />• How to create psychologically safe cultures where people feel seen, valued, and motivated • Why presence and accountability matter more than perfection in parenting <br />• How the same engagement principles used at Google and Coca-Cola apply to bedtime routines <br />• Why respect is the foundation of every relationship from toddlers to executives <br /><br />Top Takeaways: <br />• Distraction destroys connection faster than anything else. <br />• Consequences teach; punishments shame. <br />• Kids’ regulation relies on our regulation, until age 25. <br />• Engagement is nuanced; productivity alone is not a measure of alignment or meaning. <br />• Quiet quitting starts with feeling unseen long before performance drops. <br />• Intrinsic motivation fuels creativity, collaboration, and long-term commitment. <br />• Culture becomes real when values are measurable, not decorative. <br />• Repair is more important than getting it right the first time. <br />• Presence is the foundation of trust at home and at work. <br />• Apathy, not disengagement is what leaders must prevent. <br /><br />About Amanda Slavin: <br />Amanda Slavin is an educator-turned-consultant, author of The Seventh Level, and creator of the Seven Levels of Engagement framework. With a master’s in education and years of experience inside classrooms across diverse environments, she spent a decade helping global brands, including Google, Coca-Cola, and Nestlé, build...</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction and Guest Background</li><li>(00:02:28) - A Life's Work in Engagement</li><li>(00:07:37) - The 7 Levels of Engagement</li><li>(00:11:22) - Punishments, Rewards & Consequences</li><li>(00:17:32) - Engagement and Productivity in the Workplace</li><li>(00:22:34) - Applying the 7 Levels to Your Team</li><li>(00:26:28) - How To Stop Quiet Quitting</li><li>(00:35:03) - The Role of Leaders in Protecting Company Culture</li><li>(00:38:44) - Using the 7 Levels at Home with Children</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this thought-provoking and deeply human conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Amanda Slavin, educator, author, consultant, and creator of the Seven Levels of Engagement, to unpack why engagement, not productivity, is the real engine of learning, leadership, and parenting. Amanda shares the origin story of her life’s work, starting with her own childhood report cards that all said the same thing: “Amanda talks too much.” What teachers saw as disruption was actually early evidence of her lifelong obsession with connection, curiosity, and conversation. That spark eventually led her to become a teacher, earn a master’s in education, study pedagogy across wildly different school environments, and discover a taxonomy that would shape the next decade of her career. Together, Kevin and Amanda explore how the Seven Levels of Engagement help decode what’s really happening in classrooms, teams, and families. They talk about why kids melt down when parents get distracted, how quiet quitting begins long before someone stops performing, and why the real opposite of engagement isn’t disengagement, it's apathy. Amanda also opens up about how she applies her framework at home with her five- and three-year-old, and why she collaborates with them on consequences instead of handing down punishments. She explains why connection is the cheat code in parenting, why incentives rarely create long-term motivation, and how repair, presence, and respect model emotional maturity for kids who rely on our nervous systems to regulate. From bedtime battles to bored employees, from distracted leaders to overwhelmed parents, this episode is filled with real stories, practical tools, and the kind of grounded insights that make you rethink how you show up. Whether you lead teams, raise tiny humans, or both, this conversation gives you a blueprint for building cultures of connection in every corner of your life. In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why engagement is not binary and why each of the seven levels matters • How extrinsic rewards shortcut compliance but reduce creativity, curiosity, and connection • The difference between consequences and punishments and why one teaches while the other controls • How a parent’s distraction can drop a child from “inspired and connected” to stressed and overwhelmed • Why apathy, not disengagement, is the real danger zone in the workplace • How to spot quiet quitting before it happens • How to create psychologically safe cultures where people feel seen, valued, and motivated • Why presence and accountability matter more than perfection in parenting • How the same engagement principles used at Google and Coca-Cola apply to bedtime routines • Why respect is the foundation of every relationship from toddlers to executives Top Takeaways: • Distraction destroys connection faster than anything else. • Consequences teach; punishments shame. • Kids’ regulation relies on our regulation, until age 25. • Engagement is nuanced; productivity alone is not a measure of alignment or meaning. • Quiet quitting starts with feeling unseen long before performance drops. • Intrinsic motivation fuels creativity, collaboration, and long-term commitment. • Culture becomes real when values are measurable, not decorative. • Repair is more important than getting it right the first time. • Presence is the foundation of trust at home and at work. • Apathy, not disengagement is what leaders must prevent. About Amanda Slavin: Amanda Slavin is an educator-turned-consultant, author of The Seventh Level, and creator of the Seven Levels of Engagement framework. With a master’s in education and years of experience inside classrooms across diverse environments, she spent a decade helping global brands, including Google, Coca-Cola, and Nestlé, build...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this thought-provoking and deeply human conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Amanda Slavin, educator, author, consultant, and creator of the Seven Levels of Engagement, to unpack why engagement, not productivity, is the real engine of learning, leadership, and parenting. Amanda shares the origin story of her life’s work, starting with her own childhood report cards that all said the same thing: “Amanda talks too much.” What teachers saw as disruption was actually early evidence of her lifelong obsession with connection, curiosity, and conversation. That spark eventually led her to become a teacher, earn a master’s in education, study pedagogy across wildly different school environments, and discover a taxonomy that would shape the next decade of her career. Together, Kevin and Amanda explore how the Seven Levels of Engagement help decode what’s really happening in classrooms, teams, and families. They talk about why kids melt down when parents get distracted, how quiet quitting begins long before someone stops performing, and why the real opposite of engagement isn’t disengagement, it's apathy. Amanda also opens up about how she applies her framework at home with her five- and three-year-old, and why she collaborates with them on consequences instead of handing down punishments. She explains why connection is the cheat code in parenting, why incentives rarely create long-term motivation, and how repair, presence, and respect model emotional maturity for kids who rely on our nervous systems to regulate. From bedtime battles to bored employees, from distracted leaders to overwhelmed parents, this episode is filled with real stories, practical tools, and the kind of grounded insights that make you rethink how you show up. Whether you lead teams, raise tiny humans, or both, this conversation gives you a blueprint for building cultures of connection in every corner of your life. In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why engagement is not binary and why each of the seven levels matters • How extrinsic rewards shortcut compliance but reduce creativity, curiosity, and connection • The difference between consequences and punishments and why one teaches while the other controls • How a parent’s distraction can drop a child from “inspired and connected” to stressed and overwhelmed • Why apathy, not disengagement, is the real danger zone in the workplace • How to spot quiet quitting before it happens • How to create psychologically safe cultures where people feel seen, valued, and motivated • Why presence and accountability matter more than perfection in parenting • How the same engagement principles used at Google and Coca-Cola apply to bedtime routines • Why respect is the foundation of every relationship from toddlers to executives Top Takeaways: • Distraction destroys connection faster than anything else. • Consequences teach; punishments shame. • Kids’ regulation relies on our regulation, until age 25. • Engagement is nuanced; productivity alone is not a measure of alignment or meaning. • Quiet quitting starts with feeling unseen long before performance drops. • Intrinsic motivation fuels creativity, collaboration, and long-term commitment. • Culture becomes real when values are measurable, not decorative. • Repair is more important than getting it right the first time. • Presence is the foundation of trust at home and at work. • Apathy, not disengagement is what leaders must prevent. About Amanda Slavin: Amanda Slavin is an educator-turned-consultant, author of The Seventh Level, and creator of the Seven Levels of Engagement framework. With a master’s in education and years of experience inside classrooms across diverse environments, she spent a decade helping global brands, including Google, Coca-Cola, and Nestlé, build...]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Adam Brotman (Starbucks, J.Crew, Forum 3) Balancing Digital Innovation at Starbucks and Family Life #014]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this revealing and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Adam Brotman, renowned digital innovator, CEO of Forum3, and former Chief Digital Officer at Starbucks, to explore how great leadership begins at home. <br /><br />Adam shares the untold story behind Starbucks’ digital transformation, the strategy that reshaped the way millions of customers order coffee and connect with brands and the lessons that came from leading that change. From architecting mobile order and pay to stepping into the co-CEO role at J.Crew, Adam opens up about the costs of burnout, the courage to set boundaries, and the decision to become a primary parent. <br /><br />Together, Kevin and Adam dive into the evolution of leadership, learning through failure, and the transition from ambition to purpose. They discuss how COVID redefined presence, why Zoom parenting became a gift in disguise, and what it means to raise grounded, creative children in an AI-native world. Adam also reflects on the values he hopes to pass on to his daughter, to be a good listener, a good learner, and a good friend and how those same principles guide his leadership today. <br /><br />Whether you’re leading a company, navigating burnout, or redefining success beyond your career, this episode offers both practical wisdom and heart-centered reflection on what it truly means to build a meaningful life. <br /><br />In this episode, you’ll learn <br />• How Starbucks’ digital flywheel became a blueprint for connection <br />• The warning signs of burnout and how to realign with purpose <br />• Why setting boundaries is a leadership superpower <br />• How becoming a parent reshapes your definition of success <br />• The lessons COVID taught us about presence and flexibility <br />• How to prepare your kids for an AI-driven future <br />• Why authenticity and reflection create stronger leaders <br /><br />Top takeaways <br />• Great leadership starts with self-awareness and boundaries <br />• Burnout is a signal to realign, not a failure <br />• Parenting teaches empathy, patience, and humility, the same skills that drive effective teams <br />• The future of work will favor creativity, adaptability, and emotional intelligence <br />• Legacy is built through presence, not performance <br /><br />About Adam Brotman <br />Adam Brotman is the co-founder and CEO of Forum3, author of AI First, and a celebrated digital innovator best known for architecting Starbucks’ digital transformation, including mobile order and pay. He previously served as co-CEO of J.Crew and co-founded Brightloom, a restaurant technology company. A proud father and husband, Adam is passionate about creating meaningful customer experiences and about helping the next generation prepare for a rapidly changing world.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction to Leadership and Personal Life</li><li>(00:08:54) - Leadership Lessons from Early Career Experiences</li><li>(00:14:49) - The Evolution of Leadership Style</li><li>(00:20:43) - The Impact of COVID on Parenting and Work</li><li>(00:23:52) - The Future of Work and Parenting</li><li>(00:26:32) - Digital Transformation at Starbucks</li><li>(00:29:38) - Preparing the Next Generation for the Future</li><li>(00:32:49) - Core Values and Family Dynamics</li><li>(00:35:38) - Conclusion and Reflections on the Journey</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this revealing and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Adam Brotman, renowned digital innovator, CEO of Forum3, and former Chief Digital Officer at Starbucks, to explore how great leadership begins at home. Adam shares the untold story behind Starbucks’ digital transformation, the strategy that reshaped the way millions of customers order coffee and connect with brands and the lessons that came from leading that change. From architecting mobile order and pay to stepping into the co-CEO role at J.Crew, Adam opens up about the costs of burnout, the courage to set boundaries, and the decision to become a primary parent. Together, Kevin and Adam dive into the evolution of leadership, learning through failure, and the transition from ambition to purpose. They discuss how COVID redefined presence, why Zoom parenting became a gift in disguise, and what it means to raise grounded, creative children in an AI-native world. Adam also reflects on the values he hopes to pass on to his daughter, to be a good listener, a good learner, and a good friend and how those same principles guide his leadership today. Whether you’re leading a company, navigating burnout, or redefining success beyond your career, this episode offers both practical wisdom and heart-centered reflection on what it truly means to build a meaningful life. In this episode, you’ll learn • How Starbucks’ digital flywheel became a blueprint for connection • The warning signs of burnout and how to realign with purpose • Why setting boundaries is a leadership superpower • How becoming a parent reshapes your definition of success • The lessons COVID taught us about presence and flexibility • How to prepare your kids for an AI-driven future • Why authenticity and reflection create stronger leaders Top takeaways • Great leadership starts with self-awareness and boundaries • Burnout is a signal to realign, not a failure • Parenting teaches empathy, patience, and humility, the same skills that drive effective teams • The future of work will favor creativity, adaptability, and emotional intelligence • Legacy is built through presence, not performance About Adam Brotman Adam Brotman is the co-founder and CEO of Forum3, author of AI First, and a celebrated digital innovator best known for architecting Starbucks’ digital transformation, including mobile order and pay. He previously served as co-CEO of J.Crew and co-founded Brightloom, a restaurant technology company. A proud father and husband, Adam is passionate about creating meaningful customer experiences and about helping the next generation prepare for a rapidly changing world.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this revealing and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Adam Brotman, renowned digital innovator, CEO of Forum3, and former Chief Digital Officer at Starbucks, to explore how great leadership begins at home. <br /><br />Adam shares the untold story behind Starbucks’ digital transformation, the strategy that reshaped the way millions of customers order coffee and connect with brands and the lessons that came from leading that change. From architecting mobile order and pay to stepping into the co-CEO role at J.Crew, Adam opens up about the costs of burnout, the courage to set boundaries, and the decision to become a primary parent. <br /><br />Together, Kevin and Adam dive into the evolution of leadership, learning through failure, and the transition from ambition to purpose. They discuss how COVID redefined presence, why Zoom parenting became a gift in disguise, and what it means to raise grounded, creative children in an AI-native world. Adam also reflects on the values he hopes to pass on to his daughter, to be a good listener, a good learner, and a good friend and how those same principles guide his leadership today. <br /><br />Whether you’re leading a company, navigating burnout, or redefining success beyond your career, this episode offers both practical wisdom and heart-centered reflection on what it truly means to build a meaningful life. <br /><br />In this episode, you’ll learn <br />• How Starbucks’ digital flywheel became a blueprint for connection <br />• The warning signs of burnout and how to realign with purpose <br />• Why setting boundaries is a leadership superpower <br />• How becoming a parent reshapes your definition of success <br />• The lessons COVID taught us about presence and flexibility <br />• How to prepare your kids for an AI-driven future <br />• Why authenticity and reflection create stronger leaders <br /><br />Top takeaways <br />• Great leadership starts with self-awareness and boundaries <br />• Burnout is a signal to realign, not a failure <br />• Parenting teaches empathy, patience, and humility, the same skills that drive effective teams <br />• The future of work will favor creativity, adaptability, and emotional intelligence <br />• Legacy is built through presence, not performance <br /><br />About Adam Brotman <br />Adam Brotman is the co-founder and CEO of Forum3, author of AI First, and a celebrated digital innovator best known for architecting Starbucks’ digital transformation, including mobile order and pay. He previously served as co-CEO of J.Crew and co-founded Brightloom, a restaurant technology company. A proud father and husband, Adam is passionate about creating meaningful customer experiences and about helping the next generation prepare for a rapidly changing world.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this revealing and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Adam Brotman, renowned digital innovator, CEO of Forum3, and former Chief Digital Officer at Starbucks, to explore how great leadership begins at home. Adam shares the untold story behind Starbucks’ digital transformation, the strategy that reshaped the way millions of customers order coffee and connect with brands and the lessons that came from leading that change. From architecting mobile order and pay to stepping into the co-CEO role at J.Crew, Adam opens up about the costs of burnout, the courage to set boundaries, and the decision to become a primary parent. Together, Kevin and Adam dive into the evolution of leadership, learning through failure, and the transition from ambition to purpose. They discuss how COVID redefined presence, why Zoom parenting became a gift in disguise, and what it means to raise grounded, creative children in an AI-native world. Adam also reflects on the values he hopes to pass on to his daughter, to be a good listener, a good learner, and a good friend and how those same principles guide his leadership today. Whether you’re leading a company, navigating burnout, or redefining success beyond your career, this episode offers both practical wisdom and heart-centered reflection on what it truly means to build a meaningful life. In this episode, you’ll learn • How Starbucks’ digital flywheel became a blueprint for connection • The warning signs of burnout and how to realign with purpose • Why setting boundaries is a leadership superpower • How becoming a parent reshapes your definition of success • The lessons COVID taught us about presence and flexibility • How to prepare your kids for an AI-driven future • Why authenticity and reflection create stronger leaders Top takeaways • Great leadership starts with self-awareness and boundaries • Burnout is a signal to realign, not a failure • Parenting teaches empathy, patience, and humility, the same skills that drive effective teams • The future of work will favor creativity, adaptability, and emotional intelligence • Legacy is built through presence, not performance About Adam Brotman Adam Brotman is the co-founder and CEO of Forum3, author of AI First, and a celebrated digital innovator best known for architecting Starbucks’ digital transformation, including mobile order and pay. He previously served as co-CEO of J.Crew and co-founded Brightloom, a restaurant technology company. A proud father and husband, Adam is passionate about creating meaningful customer experiences and about helping the next generation prepare for a rapidly changing world.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Nick Tran (TikTok, Hulu, Samsung, Diageo x Main Street Advisors) Raising Children in an Rapidly Changing World and the Power of Teamwork in the Boardroom #016]]>
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                <pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 21:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this thoughtful and wide-ranging conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Nick Tran, President and CMO of the joint venture between Diageo and Main Street Advisors, to talk about what it means to design a life, not just a career. <br /><br />Nick shares how taking a mid-career sabbatical and moving his young family to London became one of the most rewarding chapters of his life. Over three years and 23 countries, he learned that kids are far more adaptable than we give them credit for and that presence, not perfection, is what they remember most. <br /><br />Together, Kevin and Nick explore how to balance ambition with intention, the importance of setting boundaries in high-pressure roles, and the mindset shifts that come from slowing down. Nick also opens up about his parenting approach from limiting social media and encouraging curiosity to teaching kindness, generosity, and resilience as the skills that will matter most in the future. <br /><br />Finally, Nick reflects on his career path from leading global marketing at TikTok, Taco Bell, and Samsung, to helping others find their voice as leaders. He shares why he measures success by the number of people from his teams who have gone on to become CMOs, and why he believes personal branding is essential for every modern professional. <br /><br />In This Episode You'll Learn: <br />• Why designing a life matters more than chasing titles <br />• How living abroad can reshape family connection and perspective <br />• The power of intentional parenting and setting family milestones <br />• Why screen time and social media guardrails are essential for kids <br />• How to teach generosity, kindness, and resilience through action <br />• Why curiosity and learning how to learn matter more than hard skills <br />• How to build authentic relationships that elevate your career <br />• Why personal branding is a critical leadership skill <br /><br />Top Takeaways: <br />• Presence and boundaries create balance in demanding careers <br />• Travel teaches adaptability, empathy, and global perspective <br />• The best lessons for kids come from lived experience, not lectures <br />• Generosity and curiosity are the foundation of lifelong leadership <br />• Building others up is the true measure of success <br /><br />About Nick Tran: <br />Nick Tran is the President and CMO of the joint venture between Diageo and Main Street Advisors, overseeing brands like Lobos 1707 and Ciroc Vodka. Previously, he led global marketing at TikTok, Samsung, Taco Bell, and Hulu, where his work helped define cultural relevance for modern brands. Nick is also a devoted father who believes leadership starts at home, through presence, purpose, and the courage to design life intentionally.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:02:39) - Life Lessons From Moving Oversees</li><li>(00:09:14) - Career Lessons From The Mid-Career Sabbatical</li><li>(00:12:21) - Setting Family Milestones</li><li>(00:20:19) - What I Would Have Changed If I Did It Again</li><li>(00:24:47) - Children & Social Media</li><li>(00:30:00) - The Most Important Values and Skills To Teach Your Children</li><li>(00:34:44) - Preparing Children for the Future Work Place</li><li>(00:44:46) - Passing Career Experience to Your Team at Work</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this thoughtful and wide-ranging conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Nick Tran, President and CMO of the joint venture between Diageo and Main Street Advisors, to talk about what it means to design a life, not just a career. Nick shares how taking a mid-career sabbatical and moving his young family to London became one of the most rewarding chapters of his life. Over three years and 23 countries, he learned that kids are far more adaptable than we give them credit for and that presence, not perfection, is what they remember most. Together, Kevin and Nick explore how to balance ambition with intention, the importance of setting boundaries in high-pressure roles, and the mindset shifts that come from slowing down. Nick also opens up about his parenting approach from limiting social media and encouraging curiosity to teaching kindness, generosity, and resilience as the skills that will matter most in the future. Finally, Nick reflects on his career path from leading global marketing at TikTok, Taco Bell, and Samsung, to helping others find their voice as leaders. He shares why he measures success by the number of people from his teams who have gone on to become CMOs, and why he believes personal branding is essential for every modern professional. In This Episode You'll Learn: • Why designing a life matters more than chasing titles • How living abroad can reshape family connection and perspective • The power of intentional parenting and setting family milestones • Why screen time and social media guardrails are essential for kids • How to teach generosity, kindness, and resilience through action • Why curiosity and learning how to learn matter more than hard skills • How to build authentic relationships that elevate your career • Why personal branding is a critical leadership skill Top Takeaways: • Presence and boundaries create balance in demanding careers • Travel teaches adaptability, empathy, and global perspective • The best lessons for kids come from lived experience, not lectures • Generosity and curiosity are the foundation of lifelong leadership • Building others up is the true measure of success About Nick Tran: Nick Tran is the President and CMO of the joint venture between Diageo and Main Street Advisors, overseeing brands like Lobos 1707 and Ciroc Vodka. Previously, he led global marketing at TikTok, Samsung, Taco Bell, and Hulu, where his work helped define cultural relevance for modern brands. Nick is also a devoted father who believes leadership starts at home, through presence, purpose, and the courage to design life intentionally.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Nick Tran (TikTok, Hulu, Samsung, Diageo x Main Street Advisors) Raising Children in an Rapidly Changing World and the Power of Teamwork in the Boardroom #016]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this thoughtful and wide-ranging conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Nick Tran, President and CMO of the joint venture between Diageo and Main Street Advisors, to talk about what it means to design a life, not just a career. Nick shares how taking a mid-career sabbatical and moving his young family to London became one of the most rewarding chapters of his life. Over three years and 23 countries, he learned that kids are far more adaptable than we give them credit for and that presence, not perfection, is what they remember most. Together, Kevin and Nick explore how to balance ambition with intention, the importance of setting boundaries in high-pressure roles, and the mindset shifts that come from slowing down. Nick also opens up about his parenting approach from limiting social media and encouraging curiosity to teaching kindness, generosity, and resilience as the skills that will matter most in the future. Finally, Nick reflects on his career path from leading global marketing at TikTok, Taco Bell, and Samsung, to helping others find their voice as leaders. He shares why he measures success by the number of people from his teams who have gone on to become CMOs, and why he believes personal branding is essential for every modern professional. In This Episode You'll Learn: • Why designing a life matters more than chasing titles • How living abroad can reshape family connection and perspective • The power of intentional parenting and setting family milestones • Why screen time and social media guardrails are essential for kids • How to teach generosity, kindness, and resilience through action • Why curiosity and learning how to learn matter more than hard skills • How to build authentic relationships that elevate your career • Why personal branding is a critical leadership skill Top Takeaways: • Presence and boundaries create balance in demanding careers • Travel teaches adaptability, empathy, and global perspective • The best lessons for kids come from lived experience, not lectures • Generosity and curiosity are the foundation of lifelong leadership • Building others up is the true measure of success About Nick Tran: Nick Tran is the President and CMO of the joint venture between Diageo and Main Street Advisors, overseeing brands like Lobos 1707 and Ciroc Vodka. Previously, he led global marketing at TikTok, Samsung, Taco Bell, and Hulu, where his work helped define cultural relevance for modern brands. Nick is also a devoted father who believes leadership starts at home, through presence, purpose, and the courage to design life intentionally.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jessi Walter Brelsford (Taste Buds Kitchen): A Conversation On Grit, Connection and the Power of Rituals & Intention #015]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2025 21:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[In this inspiring and heartwarming conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jessi Walter Brelsford, founder and CEO of Taste Buds Kitchen, to explore how creativity, family, and grit shaped her path from Wall Street to building a beloved national culinary entertainment brand.

What began as a small weekend hobby class in New York City has grown into more than 40 franchise locations across the country, each one designed to bring people together through the joy of cooking. Jessi shares how her upbringing in a large, entrepreneurial family shaped her values, why she believes the kitchen is one of life’s greatest classrooms, and how she balances leading a fast-growing company with being a present mom of three.

Jessi also opens up about navigating COVID with newborn twins, building a culture rooted in joy and resilience, and the rituals that keep her grounded, like Survivor Night popcorn evenings and no-phone family time. Her story is a masterclass in leading with heart, grit, and intentionality at work and at home.

In this episode, you’ll learn

• How Jessi scaled Taste Buds Kitchen from a side project to 40+ locations
• Practical ways to set boundaries and be fully present at home
• Why cooking together fosters creativity, confidence, and connection
• How rituals like Survivor Night create family belonging and joy
• The leadership tools Jessi uses to empower her team and franchisees
• How to pivot under pressure and find opportunity in hard seasons

Top takeaways

• Joy is a strategy that makes people light up
• Presence beats perfection and makes small moments meaningful
• Grit wins by teaching kids and teams to keep going when it is hard
• Rituals build culture at home and in the workplace
• The kitchen is a classroom for empathy, creativity, and connection

About Jessi Walter Brelsford:
Jessi Walter Brelsford is the founder and CEO of Taste Buds Kitchen, a national culinary entertainment franchise offering cooking classes, camps, parties, and team-building events for all ages. A former Wall Street VP and Harvard graduate, Jessi built her business on the belief that food brings people together. She is a wife, mom of three, and passionate advocate for creating joy and connection, one meal, one memory, and one kitchen at a time.
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction and Context Setting</li><li>(00:09:20) - From Wall Street to Culinary Entrepreneurship</li><li>(00:17:31) - Evolving as a Leader</li><li>(00:21:45) - Balancing Work and Family Life</li><li>(00:24:00) - Embracing Family Time Over Technology</li><li>(00:27:00) - Cooking as a Family Bonding Experience</li><li>(00:32:58) - Intentionality in Family Rituals</li><li>(00:37:48) - Leadership Lessons from Parenthood</li><li>(00:41:53) - Navigating Challenges and Change</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this inspiring and heartwarming conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jessi Walter Brelsford, founder and CEO of Taste Buds Kitchen, to explore how creativity, family, and grit shaped her path from Wall Street to building a beloved national culinary entertainment brand.

What began as a small weekend hobby class in New York City has grown into more than 40 franchise locations across the country, each one designed to bring people together through the joy of cooking. Jessi shares how her upbringing in a large, entrepreneurial family shaped her values, why she believes the kitchen is one of life’s greatest classrooms, and how she balances leading a fast-growing company with being a present mom of three.

Jessi also opens up about navigating COVID with newborn twins, building a culture rooted in joy and resilience, and the rituals that keep her grounded, like Survivor Night popcorn evenings and no-phone family time. Her story is a masterclass in leading with heart, grit, and intentionality at work and at home.

In this episode, you’ll learn

• How Jessi scaled Taste Buds Kitchen from a side project to 40+ locations
• Practical ways to set boundaries and be fully present at home
• Why cooking together fosters creativity, confidence, and connection
• How rituals like Survivor Night create family belonging and joy
• The leadership tools Jessi uses to empower her team and franchisees
• How to pivot under pressure and find opportunity in hard seasons

Top takeaways

• Joy is a strategy that makes people light up
• Presence beats perfection and makes small moments meaningful
• Grit wins by teaching kids and teams to keep going when it is hard
• Rituals build culture at home and in the workplace
• The kitchen is a classroom for empathy, creativity, and connection

About Jessi Walter Brelsford:
Jessi Walter Brelsford is the founder and CEO of Taste Buds Kitchen, a national culinary entertainment franchise offering cooking classes, camps, parties, and team-building events for all ages. A former Wall Street VP and Harvard graduate, Jessi built her business on the belief that food brings people together. She is a wife, mom of three, and passionate advocate for creating joy and connection, one meal, one memory, and one kitchen at a time.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jessi Walter Brelsford (Taste Buds Kitchen): A Conversation On Grit, Connection and the Power of Rituals & Intention #015]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[In this inspiring and heartwarming conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jessi Walter Brelsford, founder and CEO of Taste Buds Kitchen, to explore how creativity, family, and grit shaped her path from Wall Street to building a beloved national culinary entertainment brand.

What began as a small weekend hobby class in New York City has grown into more than 40 franchise locations across the country, each one designed to bring people together through the joy of cooking. Jessi shares how her upbringing in a large, entrepreneurial family shaped her values, why she believes the kitchen is one of life’s greatest classrooms, and how she balances leading a fast-growing company with being a present mom of three.

Jessi also opens up about navigating COVID with newborn twins, building a culture rooted in joy and resilience, and the rituals that keep her grounded, like Survivor Night popcorn evenings and no-phone family time. Her story is a masterclass in leading with heart, grit, and intentionality at work and at home.

In this episode, you’ll learn

• How Jessi scaled Taste Buds Kitchen from a side project to 40+ locations
• Practical ways to set boundaries and be fully present at home
• Why cooking together fosters creativity, confidence, and connection
• How rituals like Survivor Night create family belonging and joy
• The leadership tools Jessi uses to empower her team and franchisees
• How to pivot under pressure and find opportunity in hard seasons

Top takeaways

• Joy is a strategy that makes people light up
• Presence beats perfection and makes small moments meaningful
• Grit wins by teaching kids and teams to keep going when it is hard
• Rituals build culture at home and in the workplace
• The kitchen is a classroom for empathy, creativity, and connection

About Jessi Walter Brelsford:
Jessi Walter Brelsford is the founder and CEO of Taste Buds Kitchen, a national culinary entertainment franchise offering cooking classes, camps, parties, and team-building events for all ages. A former Wall Street VP and Harvard graduate, Jessi built her business on the belief that food brings people together. She is a wife, mom of three, and passionate advocate for creating joy and connection, one meal, one memory, and one kitchen at a time.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this inspiring and heartwarming conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jessi Walter Brelsford, founder and CEO of Taste Buds Kitchen, to explore how creativity, family, and grit shaped her path from Wall Street to building a beloved national culinary entertainment brand.

What began as a small weekend hobby class in New York City has grown into more than 40 franchise locations across the country, each one designed to bring people together through the joy of cooking. Jessi shares how her upbringing in a large, entrepreneurial family shaped her values, why she believes the kitchen is one of life’s greatest classrooms, and how she balances leading a fast-growing company with being a present mom of three.

Jessi also opens up about navigating COVID with newborn twins, building a culture rooted in joy and resilience, and the rituals that keep her grounded, like Survivor Night popcorn evenings and no-phone family time. Her story is a masterclass in leading with heart, grit, and intentionality at work and at home.

In this episode, you’ll learn

• How Jessi scaled Taste Buds Kitchen from a side project to 40+ locations
• Practical ways to set boundaries and be fully present at home
• Why cooking together fosters creativity, confidence, and connection
• How rituals like Survivor Night create family belonging and joy
• The leadership tools Jessi uses to empower her team and franchisees
• How to pivot under pressure and find opportunity in hard seasons

Top takeaways

• Joy is a strategy that makes people light up
• Presence beats perfection and makes small moments meaningful
• Grit wins by teaching kids and teams to keep going when it is hard
• Rituals build culture at home and in the workplace
• The kitchen is a classroom for empathy, creativity, and connection

About Jessi Walter Brelsford:
Jessi Walter Brelsford is the founder and CEO of Taste Buds Kitchen, a national culinary entertainment franchise offering cooking classes, camps, parties, and team-building events for all ages. A former Wall Street VP and Harvard graduate, Jessi built her business on the belief that food brings people together. She is a wife, mom of three, and passionate advocate for creating joy and connection, one meal, one memory, and one kitchen at a time.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Chris Andrews (European Wax Centre, Unleashed Brands, Smoothie King) on Health and Exercise as the Fundamentals to Great Executive Leadership #014]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this honest and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Chris Andrews, Chief Information and Digital Officer at European Wax Center, to explore how leadership at work intersects with leadership at home.</p>
<p>Chris reflects on the milestone of dropping his twins at college and feeling joy instead of tears, the daily discipline that kept him present for family while leading large transformations, and how returning to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu helped him rebuild health, clarity, and calm under pressure.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Chris unpack seasons of stress, the signals that work is intruding on family life, and why authentic leadership and supportive cultures matter more than ever. Chris shares the lessons he wants his kids to carry forward: kindness, resilience, and the courage to keep showing up even when it is hard.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, you will learn:</p>
<p>• Why physical health is a leadership advantage <br />• How Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu builds calm, confidence, and composure <br />• Practical ways to protect special family moments on a tight schedule <br />• How to notice when career pressure is crowding out presence at home <br />• Why authentic leadership deepens trust and connection with teams <br />• How to create a supportive work culture that lifts people up <br />• What career setbacks can teach you about grit and growth <br />• How to model kindness and resilience for your kids</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Presence is built through discipline and protected rituals <br />• Health fuels better decisions and steadier leadership <br />• Authentic leadership starts at home and shows up at work <br />• Supportive cultures are created by consistent daily choices <br />• The legacy that matters most is who your kids become</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Chris Andrews: Chris Andrews is the Chief Information and Digital Officer at European Wax Center. He has led complex digital transformations at well-known multi-unit brands and is passionate about building healthy teams, supportive cultures, and a life where career and family strengthen each other. Outside the office, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu keeps him grounded, focused, and calm under pressure.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:02:13) - Dropping the Children Off At College</li><li>(00:05:14) - Balancing Work and Family Life</li><li>(00:09:57) - The Transformative Power of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu</li><li>(00:11:59) - The Evolution of Becoming a Better Leader</li><li>(00:17:05) - The Power of Coaching Youth Sports</li><li>(00:19:57) - Creating Safe Environments At Work</li><li>(00:22:52) - Teaching Children to Honor Commitments</li><li>(00:24:49) - Instilling Strong Values at Home</li><li>(00:26:58) - Rituals in the Work Place and at Home</li><li>(00:28:36) - Leaving the Stress and Pressure of Work at the Door</li><li>(00:33:00) - Leadership Lessons from Parenting</li><li>(00:37:02) - Advice for Aspiring Leaders</li><li>(00:39:40) - Final Thoughts on Leadership and Family</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this honest and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Chris Andrews, Chief Information and Digital Officer at European Wax Center, to explore how leadership at work intersects with leadership at home.
Chris reflects on the milestone of dropping his twins at college and feeling joy instead of tears, the daily discipline that kept him present for family while leading large transformations, and how returning to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu helped him rebuild health, clarity, and calm under pressure.
Together, Kevin and Chris unpack seasons of stress, the signals that work is intruding on family life, and why authentic leadership and supportive cultures matter more than ever. Chris shares the lessons he wants his kids to carry forward: kindness, resilience, and the courage to keep showing up even when it is hard.
 
In this episode, you will learn:
• Why physical health is a leadership advantage • How Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu builds calm, confidence, and composure • Practical ways to protect special family moments on a tight schedule • How to notice when career pressure is crowding out presence at home • Why authentic leadership deepens trust and connection with teams • How to create a supportive work culture that lifts people up • What career setbacks can teach you about grit and growth • How to model kindness and resilience for your kids
 
Top Takeaways:
• Presence is built through discipline and protected rituals • Health fuels better decisions and steadier leadership • Authentic leadership starts at home and shows up at work • Supportive cultures are created by consistent daily choices • The legacy that matters most is who your kids become
 
About Chris Andrews: Chris Andrews is the Chief Information and Digital Officer at European Wax Center. He has led complex digital transformations at well-known multi-unit brands and is passionate about building healthy teams, supportive cultures, and a life where career and family strengthen each other. Outside the office, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu keeps him grounded, focused, and calm under pressure.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Chris Andrews (European Wax Centre, Unleashed Brands, Smoothie King) on Health and Exercise as the Fundamentals to Great Executive Leadership #014]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this honest and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Chris Andrews, Chief Information and Digital Officer at European Wax Center, to explore how leadership at work intersects with leadership at home.</p>
<p>Chris reflects on the milestone of dropping his twins at college and feeling joy instead of tears, the daily discipline that kept him present for family while leading large transformations, and how returning to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu helped him rebuild health, clarity, and calm under pressure.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Chris unpack seasons of stress, the signals that work is intruding on family life, and why authentic leadership and supportive cultures matter more than ever. Chris shares the lessons he wants his kids to carry forward: kindness, resilience, and the courage to keep showing up even when it is hard.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, you will learn:</p>
<p>• Why physical health is a leadership advantage <br />• How Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu builds calm, confidence, and composure <br />• Practical ways to protect special family moments on a tight schedule <br />• How to notice when career pressure is crowding out presence at home <br />• Why authentic leadership deepens trust and connection with teams <br />• How to create a supportive work culture that lifts people up <br />• What career setbacks can teach you about grit and growth <br />• How to model kindness and resilience for your kids</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Presence is built through discipline and protected rituals <br />• Health fuels better decisions and steadier leadership <br />• Authentic leadership starts at home and shows up at work <br />• Supportive cultures are created by consistent daily choices <br />• The legacy that matters most is who your kids become</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Chris Andrews: Chris Andrews is the Chief Information and Digital Officer at European Wax Center. He has led complex digital transformations at well-known multi-unit brands and is passionate about building healthy teams, supportive cultures, and a life where career and family strengthen each other. Outside the office, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu keeps him grounded, focused, and calm under pressure.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this honest and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Chris Andrews, Chief Information and Digital Officer at European Wax Center, to explore how leadership at work intersects with leadership at home.
Chris reflects on the milestone of dropping his twins at college and feeling joy instead of tears, the daily discipline that kept him present for family while leading large transformations, and how returning to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu helped him rebuild health, clarity, and calm under pressure.
Together, Kevin and Chris unpack seasons of stress, the signals that work is intruding on family life, and why authentic leadership and supportive cultures matter more than ever. Chris shares the lessons he wants his kids to carry forward: kindness, resilience, and the courage to keep showing up even when it is hard.
 
In this episode, you will learn:
• Why physical health is a leadership advantage • How Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu builds calm, confidence, and composure • Practical ways to protect special family moments on a tight schedule • How to notice when career pressure is crowding out presence at home • Why authentic leadership deepens trust and connection with teams • How to create a supportive work culture that lifts people up • What career setbacks can teach you about grit and growth • How to model kindness and resilience for your kids
 
Top Takeaways:
• Presence is built through discipline and protected rituals • Health fuels better decisions and steadier leadership • Authentic leadership starts at home and shows up at work • Supportive cultures are created by consistent daily choices • The legacy that matters most is who your kids become
 
About Chris Andrews: Chris Andrews is the Chief Information and Digital Officer at European Wax Center. He has led complex digital transformations at well-known multi-unit brands and is passionate about building healthy teams, supportive cultures, and a life where career and family strengthen each other. Outside the office, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu keeps him grounded, focused, and calm under pressure.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Deena DePhilips (Red Robin) Motherhood as the Launch Pad for Success #013]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2025 20:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this candid and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Deena DePhilips, CIO of Red Robin, to explore how becoming a mother transformed her leadership, her relationship with time, and her definition of success.</p>
<p>Deena shares the raw reality of stepping into the CIO role just five weeks after giving birth and the crash that followed when the old “workhorse” playbook stopped working. She opens up about rebuilding from burnout, trading perfectionism for presence, and shifting from doer to strategist by empowering her team.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Deena dig into parenting as a mirror for leadership, breaking generational patterns, and creating boundaries that protect what matters most. Deena lays out the three lessons that changed everything for her: deep focus in short windows, falling in love with fluidity, and embracing “done is better than perfect.” <br /><br />Whether you are navigating a big promotion, new parenthood, or both at once, Deena’s story offers practical tools and hard-earned encouragement for leading with clarity at work and at home.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why motherhood can be a launching pad, not a pause <br />• How to compress deep work into focused 60 to 90 minute sprints <br />• Tactics for choosing presence when work never truly turns off <br />• Why fluidity beats rigid routines in high-pressure seasons <br />• How to move from workhorse to strategist by empowering others <br />• Ways to protect sacred family time, especially bedtime rituals <br />• How parenting sharpens empathy, patience, and listening at work <br />• Why legacy is built through daily deposits in the connection bank</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Presence over perfection creates more impact in both roles <br />• Focus and discipline matter more than long hours <br />• Let go or be dragged is a powerful mindset for change <br />• Done is better than perfect keeps momentum moving <br />• Work can be a passion, but family is the purpose that sustains it</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Deena DePhilips: <br />Deena DePhilips is the Chief Information Officer at Red Robin, where she leads enterprise technology and digital transformation. Known as both a workhorse and a visionary leader, she has built a reputation for simplifying complex systems and empowering high-performing teams. Deena is also a devoted mother who believes that work is her passion and her daughter is her purpose.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:02:23) - Balancing Executive Responsibilities and Parenthood</li><li>(00:03:29) - Lessons Learned from Burnout and Work Ethic</li><li>(00:05:10) - The Effects of the Burnout Experience</li><li>(00:08:11) - Done is Better Than Perfect</li><li>(00:09:25) - Staying Present with Family Whilst Under the Pressure of Career</li><li>(00:13:02) - The Tug of War Between Work and Home</li><li>(00:16:57) - Shifting from Doer to Leader</li><li>(00:25:22) - Empathy and Patience: Parenting as a Leadership Tool</li><li>(00:27:47) - Creating Meaningful Family Rituals</li><li>(00:31:08) - Instilling Work Ethic in Children</li><li>(00:35:41) - Lessons on Work and Purpose</li><li>(00:39:23) - Lessons and Values to Share with Your Children</li><li>(00:40:34) - Legacy and Impact as a Parent</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this candid and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Deena DePhilips, CIO of Red Robin, to explore how becoming a mother transformed her leadership, her relationship with time, and her definition of success.
Deena shares the raw reality of stepping into the CIO role just five weeks after giving birth and the crash that followed when the old “workhorse” playbook stopped working. She opens up about rebuilding from burnout, trading perfectionism for presence, and shifting from doer to strategist by empowering her team.
Together, Kevin and Deena dig into parenting as a mirror for leadership, breaking generational patterns, and creating boundaries that protect what matters most. Deena lays out the three lessons that changed everything for her: deep focus in short windows, falling in love with fluidity, and embracing “done is better than perfect.” Whether you are navigating a big promotion, new parenthood, or both at once, Deena’s story offers practical tools and hard-earned encouragement for leading with clarity at work and at home.
 
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why motherhood can be a launching pad, not a pause • How to compress deep work into focused 60 to 90 minute sprints • Tactics for choosing presence when work never truly turns off • Why fluidity beats rigid routines in high-pressure seasons • How to move from workhorse to strategist by empowering others • Ways to protect sacred family time, especially bedtime rituals • How parenting sharpens empathy, patience, and listening at work • Why legacy is built through daily deposits in the connection bank
 
Top Takeaways:
• Presence over perfection creates more impact in both roles • Focus and discipline matter more than long hours • Let go or be dragged is a powerful mindset for change • Done is better than perfect keeps momentum moving • Work can be a passion, but family is the purpose that sustains it
 
About Deena DePhilips: Deena DePhilips is the Chief Information Officer at Red Robin, where she leads enterprise technology and digital transformation. Known as both a workhorse and a visionary leader, she has built a reputation for simplifying complex systems and empowering high-performing teams. Deena is also a devoted mother who believes that work is her passion and her daughter is her purpose.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Deena DePhilips (Red Robin) Motherhood as the Launch Pad for Success #013]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this candid and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Deena DePhilips, CIO of Red Robin, to explore how becoming a mother transformed her leadership, her relationship with time, and her definition of success.</p>
<p>Deena shares the raw reality of stepping into the CIO role just five weeks after giving birth and the crash that followed when the old “workhorse” playbook stopped working. She opens up about rebuilding from burnout, trading perfectionism for presence, and shifting from doer to strategist by empowering her team.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Deena dig into parenting as a mirror for leadership, breaking generational patterns, and creating boundaries that protect what matters most. Deena lays out the three lessons that changed everything for her: deep focus in short windows, falling in love with fluidity, and embracing “done is better than perfect.” <br /><br />Whether you are navigating a big promotion, new parenthood, or both at once, Deena’s story offers practical tools and hard-earned encouragement for leading with clarity at work and at home.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why motherhood can be a launching pad, not a pause <br />• How to compress deep work into focused 60 to 90 minute sprints <br />• Tactics for choosing presence when work never truly turns off <br />• Why fluidity beats rigid routines in high-pressure seasons <br />• How to move from workhorse to strategist by empowering others <br />• Ways to protect sacred family time, especially bedtime rituals <br />• How parenting sharpens empathy, patience, and listening at work <br />• Why legacy is built through daily deposits in the connection bank</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Presence over perfection creates more impact in both roles <br />• Focus and discipline matter more than long hours <br />• Let go or be dragged is a powerful mindset for change <br />• Done is better than perfect keeps momentum moving <br />• Work can be a passion, but family is the purpose that sustains it</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Deena DePhilips: <br />Deena DePhilips is the Chief Information Officer at Red Robin, where she leads enterprise technology and digital transformation. Known as both a workhorse and a visionary leader, she has built a reputation for simplifying complex systems and empowering high-performing teams. Deena is also a devoted mother who believes that work is her passion and her daughter is her purpose.</p>]]>
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                                <itunes:summary>
                    <![CDATA[In this candid and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Deena DePhilips, CIO of Red Robin, to explore how becoming a mother transformed her leadership, her relationship with time, and her definition of success.
Deena shares the raw reality of stepping into the CIO role just five weeks after giving birth and the crash that followed when the old “workhorse” playbook stopped working. She opens up about rebuilding from burnout, trading perfectionism for presence, and shifting from doer to strategist by empowering her team.
Together, Kevin and Deena dig into parenting as a mirror for leadership, breaking generational patterns, and creating boundaries that protect what matters most. Deena lays out the three lessons that changed everything for her: deep focus in short windows, falling in love with fluidity, and embracing “done is better than perfect.” Whether you are navigating a big promotion, new parenthood, or both at once, Deena’s story offers practical tools and hard-earned encouragement for leading with clarity at work and at home.
 
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why motherhood can be a launching pad, not a pause • How to compress deep work into focused 60 to 90 minute sprints • Tactics for choosing presence when work never truly turns off • Why fluidity beats rigid routines in high-pressure seasons • How to move from workhorse to strategist by empowering others • Ways to protect sacred family time, especially bedtime rituals • How parenting sharpens empathy, patience, and listening at work • Why legacy is built through daily deposits in the connection bank
 
Top Takeaways:
• Presence over perfection creates more impact in both roles • Focus and discipline matter more than long hours • Let go or be dragged is a powerful mindset for change • Done is better than perfect keeps momentum moving • Work can be a passion, but family is the purpose that sustains it
 
About Deena DePhilips: Deena DePhilips is the Chief Information Officer at Red Robin, where she leads enterprise technology and digital transformation. Known as both a workhorse and a visionary leader, she has built a reputation for simplifying complex systems and empowering high-performing teams. Deena is also a devoted mother who believes that work is her passion and her daughter is her purpose.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thomas Odermatt (Roli Roti and Butcher's Bone Broth) on Family Rituals, Servant Leadership and Creating a Family within your Team #012]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 16:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this thoughtful and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Thomas Odermatt, founder and CEO of Roli Roti Gourmet Rotisserie, to explore how family values, purpose, and empathy shape modern leadership. <br /><br />Thomas shares his journey from growing up in his family’s butcher shop in Switzerland, where hard work and connection were a way of life, to leading one of America’s most beloved food businesses. He reflects on the lessons instilled by his parents, the importance of family rituals, and how those early experiences laid the foundation for his leadership philosophy today. <br /><br />Together, Kevin and Thomas discuss the power of purpose in work, the role of empathy in leadership, and why empowering employees is key to building lasting company culture. Thomas also opens up about balancing business growth with family life, lessons from his time in the Swiss army, and what it truly means to lead like a father both at home and in the workplace. <br /><br />Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or a parent striving to stay grounded through growth, Thomas’s story offers timeless wisdom about purpose, people, and perseverance. <br /><br />In this episode, you’ll learn: <br />• How family values and rituals shape leadership style <br />• Why purpose in work creates fulfillment and direction <br />• The importance of empathy and understanding in leadership <br />• How to empower employees and build lasting trust <br />• Why balancing family and business is crucial for success <br />• Lessons from the Swiss army that translate to leadership today <br />• The value of long-term employees in sustaining growth <br />• Why transparency strengthens company culture <br />• How to celebrate small wins and maintain a startup mindset </p>
<p>Top Takeaways: <br />• Strong leadership begins with strong values <br />• Purpose-driven work fuels both personal and professional growth <br />• Empowered teams create thriving businesses <br />• Balancing family and business isn’t easy but it’s worth it <br />• Leading with empathy transforms culture from the inside out <br /><br />About Thomas Odermatt: <br />Thomas Odermatt is the founder and CEO of Roli Roti Gourmet Rotisserie, a California-based food company rooted in craftsmanship, quality, and care. Raised in Switzerland in a family of butchers, Thomas built his business around the values of honesty, hard work, and connection. His leadership is grounded in empathy and empowerment, with a deep belief that a company, like a family, thrives when people are valued and purpose guides every decision.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:02:27) - Growing Up in a Butcher Shop and Large Family</li><li>(00:05:52) - Lessons from Family Values</li><li>(00:08:33) - The Importance of Purpose</li><li>(00:11:29) - Showing Up in the Boardroom and Navigating A New Born Child</li><li>(00:12:53) - Routine Changes and Family Priorities</li><li>(00:19:05) - Leadership Philosophy and Team Empowerment</li><li>(00:25:18) - Cultural Values and Employee Care</li><li>(00:29:17) - Maintaining a Startup Mindset</li><li>(00:33:43) - Celebrating Small Wins</li><li>(00:38:00) - Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this thoughtful and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Thomas Odermatt, founder and CEO of Roli Roti Gourmet Rotisserie, to explore how family values, purpose, and empathy shape modern leadership. Thomas shares his journey from growing up in his family’s butcher shop in Switzerland, where hard work and connection were a way of life, to leading one of America’s most beloved food businesses. He reflects on the lessons instilled by his parents, the importance of family rituals, and how those early experiences laid the foundation for his leadership philosophy today. Together, Kevin and Thomas discuss the power of purpose in work, the role of empathy in leadership, and why empowering employees is key to building lasting company culture. Thomas also opens up about balancing business growth with family life, lessons from his time in the Swiss army, and what it truly means to lead like a father both at home and in the workplace. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or a parent striving to stay grounded through growth, Thomas’s story offers timeless wisdom about purpose, people, and perseverance. In this episode, you’ll learn: • How family values and rituals shape leadership style • Why purpose in work creates fulfillment and direction • The importance of empathy and understanding in leadership • How to empower employees and build lasting trust • Why balancing family and business is crucial for success • Lessons from the Swiss army that translate to leadership today • The value of long-term employees in sustaining growth • Why transparency strengthens company culture • How to celebrate small wins and maintain a startup mindset 
Top Takeaways: • Strong leadership begins with strong values • Purpose-driven work fuels both personal and professional growth • Empowered teams create thriving businesses • Balancing family and business isn’t easy but it’s worth it • Leading with empathy transforms culture from the inside out About Thomas Odermatt: Thomas Odermatt is the founder and CEO of Roli Roti Gourmet Rotisserie, a California-based food company rooted in craftsmanship, quality, and care. Raised in Switzerland in a family of butchers, Thomas built his business around the values of honesty, hard work, and connection. His leadership is grounded in empathy and empowerment, with a deep belief that a company, like a family, thrives when people are valued and purpose guides every decision.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Thomas Odermatt (Roli Roti and Butcher's Bone Broth) on Family Rituals, Servant Leadership and Creating a Family within your Team #012]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this thoughtful and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Thomas Odermatt, founder and CEO of Roli Roti Gourmet Rotisserie, to explore how family values, purpose, and empathy shape modern leadership. <br /><br />Thomas shares his journey from growing up in his family’s butcher shop in Switzerland, where hard work and connection were a way of life, to leading one of America’s most beloved food businesses. He reflects on the lessons instilled by his parents, the importance of family rituals, and how those early experiences laid the foundation for his leadership philosophy today. <br /><br />Together, Kevin and Thomas discuss the power of purpose in work, the role of empathy in leadership, and why empowering employees is key to building lasting company culture. Thomas also opens up about balancing business growth with family life, lessons from his time in the Swiss army, and what it truly means to lead like a father both at home and in the workplace. <br /><br />Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or a parent striving to stay grounded through growth, Thomas’s story offers timeless wisdom about purpose, people, and perseverance. <br /><br />In this episode, you’ll learn: <br />• How family values and rituals shape leadership style <br />• Why purpose in work creates fulfillment and direction <br />• The importance of empathy and understanding in leadership <br />• How to empower employees and build lasting trust <br />• Why balancing family and business is crucial for success <br />• Lessons from the Swiss army that translate to leadership today <br />• The value of long-term employees in sustaining growth <br />• Why transparency strengthens company culture <br />• How to celebrate small wins and maintain a startup mindset </p>
<p>Top Takeaways: <br />• Strong leadership begins with strong values <br />• Purpose-driven work fuels both personal and professional growth <br />• Empowered teams create thriving businesses <br />• Balancing family and business isn’t easy but it’s worth it <br />• Leading with empathy transforms culture from the inside out <br /><br />About Thomas Odermatt: <br />Thomas Odermatt is the founder and CEO of Roli Roti Gourmet Rotisserie, a California-based food company rooted in craftsmanship, quality, and care. Raised in Switzerland in a family of butchers, Thomas built his business around the values of honesty, hard work, and connection. His leadership is grounded in empathy and empowerment, with a deep belief that a company, like a family, thrives when people are valued and purpose guides every decision.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this thoughtful and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Thomas Odermatt, founder and CEO of Roli Roti Gourmet Rotisserie, to explore how family values, purpose, and empathy shape modern leadership. Thomas shares his journey from growing up in his family’s butcher shop in Switzerland, where hard work and connection were a way of life, to leading one of America’s most beloved food businesses. He reflects on the lessons instilled by his parents, the importance of family rituals, and how those early experiences laid the foundation for his leadership philosophy today. Together, Kevin and Thomas discuss the power of purpose in work, the role of empathy in leadership, and why empowering employees is key to building lasting company culture. Thomas also opens up about balancing business growth with family life, lessons from his time in the Swiss army, and what it truly means to lead like a father both at home and in the workplace. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or a parent striving to stay grounded through growth, Thomas’s story offers timeless wisdom about purpose, people, and perseverance. In this episode, you’ll learn: • How family values and rituals shape leadership style • Why purpose in work creates fulfillment and direction • The importance of empathy and understanding in leadership • How to empower employees and build lasting trust • Why balancing family and business is crucial for success • Lessons from the Swiss army that translate to leadership today • The value of long-term employees in sustaining growth • Why transparency strengthens company culture • How to celebrate small wins and maintain a startup mindset 
Top Takeaways: • Strong leadership begins with strong values • Purpose-driven work fuels both personal and professional growth • Empowered teams create thriving businesses • Balancing family and business isn’t easy but it’s worth it • Leading with empathy transforms culture from the inside out About Thomas Odermatt: Thomas Odermatt is the founder and CEO of Roli Roti Gourmet Rotisserie, a California-based food company rooted in craftsmanship, quality, and care. Raised in Switzerland in a family of butchers, Thomas built his business around the values of honesty, hard work, and connection. His leadership is grounded in empathy and empowerment, with a deep belief that a company, like a family, thrives when people are valued and purpose guides every decision.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:41:39</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Brent Cooke (Driven Brands, MVMT, Kradle, PetSmart) A Conversation on Co-Parenting, Re-Writing Parenting Patterns and the Power of Authenticity #011]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2025 12:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this open and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Brent Cooke to explore the realities of balancing parenthood, career ambitions, and family dynamics.</p>
<p>Brent reflects on the overwhelming early days of fatherhood and the lessons he’s learned about partnership, presence, and integrity along the way. He shares candid stories of how career responsibilities sometimes pulled him away from family life, and the strategies he’s used to stay connected and intentional as both a parent and a professional.</p>
<p>The conversation also dives into the complexities of co-parenting after separation, the evolution of his relationship with his daughter as she enters adulthood, and the importance of authenticity and communication in building strong family bonds. Brent offers practical insights for aspiring leaders who want to grow their careers without losing sight of what matters most at home.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an executive navigating family responsibilities, a parent seeking more presence, or someone reflecting on the legacy you want to leave behind, Brent’s story offers wisdom, honesty, and encouragement.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why no one is ever fully prepared for parenthood</p>
<p>• The importance of partnership in parenting and co-parenting</p>
<p>• How career pressures can test family presence and how to respond</p>
<p>• Why showing up with integrity builds trust with your children</p>
<p>• How to bring your family along on your career journey</p>
<p>• The value of listening and open communication with kids</p>
<p>• Why legacy is about family impact, not just career achievements</p>
<p>• How parenting evolves as children grow into young adults</p>
<p>• Why being present in the moment matters more than perfection</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Parenthood is a journey of learning, not perfection</p>
<p>• Partnership and co-parenting are essential for balance</p>
<p>• Integrity and authenticity create lasting family trust</p>
<p>• Careers rarely follow a straight path, bring your family with you</p>
<p>• Presence is the greatest gift you can give your children</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Brent Cooke:<br />Brent Cooke is a seasoned executive and leader who has built his career while navigating the challenges of fatherhood and family life. His story is one of growth, resilience, and authenticity, marked by lessons in partnership, co-parenting, and living with integrity. Above all, he is a proud father whose legacy is defined not just by professional success, but by the relationships he’s built with his family.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:02:06) - Navigating Parenthood and Career Responsibilities</li><li>(00:05:26) - Lessons from Early Mentors and Parenting</li><li>(00:13:21) - Experiences of Work Taking Presence Away From Family</li><li>(00:17:20) - Making the Most of Quality Time with Kids</li><li>(00:27:35) - The Importance of Integrity and Boundaries in Parenting</li><li>(00:31:00) - Creating Moments of Meaningful Family Connection</li><li>(00:34:37) - The Evolution of Parenting from Child to Young Adult</li><li>(00:36:30) - Advice for Aspiring Leaders on Balancing Career and Family</li><li>(00:41:33) - Advice for Aspiring Executives</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this open and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Brent Cooke to explore the realities of balancing parenthood, career ambitions, and family dynamics.
Brent reflects on the overwhelming early days of fatherhood and the lessons he’s learned about partnership, presence, and integrity along the way. He shares candid stories of how career responsibilities sometimes pulled him away from family life, and the strategies he’s used to stay connected and intentional as both a parent and a professional.
The conversation also dives into the complexities of co-parenting after separation, the evolution of his relationship with his daughter as she enters adulthood, and the importance of authenticity and communication in building strong family bonds. Brent offers practical insights for aspiring leaders who want to grow their careers without losing sight of what matters most at home.
Whether you’re an executive navigating family responsibilities, a parent seeking more presence, or someone reflecting on the legacy you want to leave behind, Brent’s story offers wisdom, honesty, and encouragement.
 
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why no one is ever fully prepared for parenthood
• The importance of partnership in parenting and co-parenting
• How career pressures can test family presence and how to respond
• Why showing up with integrity builds trust with your children
• How to bring your family along on your career journey
• The value of listening and open communication with kids
• Why legacy is about family impact, not just career achievements
• How parenting evolves as children grow into young adults
• Why being present in the moment matters more than perfection
 
Top Takeaways:
• Parenthood is a journey of learning, not perfection
• Partnership and co-parenting are essential for balance
• Integrity and authenticity create lasting family trust
• Careers rarely follow a straight path, bring your family with you
• Presence is the greatest gift you can give your children
 
About Brent Cooke:Brent Cooke is a seasoned executive and leader who has built his career while navigating the challenges of fatherhood and family life. His story is one of growth, resilience, and authenticity, marked by lessons in partnership, co-parenting, and living with integrity. Above all, he is a proud father whose legacy is defined not just by professional success, but by the relationships he’s built with his family.]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Brent Cooke (Driven Brands, MVMT, Kradle, PetSmart) A Conversation on Co-Parenting, Re-Writing Parenting Patterns and the Power of Authenticity #011]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this open and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Brent Cooke to explore the realities of balancing parenthood, career ambitions, and family dynamics.</p>
<p>Brent reflects on the overwhelming early days of fatherhood and the lessons he’s learned about partnership, presence, and integrity along the way. He shares candid stories of how career responsibilities sometimes pulled him away from family life, and the strategies he’s used to stay connected and intentional as both a parent and a professional.</p>
<p>The conversation also dives into the complexities of co-parenting after separation, the evolution of his relationship with his daughter as she enters adulthood, and the importance of authenticity and communication in building strong family bonds. Brent offers practical insights for aspiring leaders who want to grow their careers without losing sight of what matters most at home.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an executive navigating family responsibilities, a parent seeking more presence, or someone reflecting on the legacy you want to leave behind, Brent’s story offers wisdom, honesty, and encouragement.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why no one is ever fully prepared for parenthood</p>
<p>• The importance of partnership in parenting and co-parenting</p>
<p>• How career pressures can test family presence and how to respond</p>
<p>• Why showing up with integrity builds trust with your children</p>
<p>• How to bring your family along on your career journey</p>
<p>• The value of listening and open communication with kids</p>
<p>• Why legacy is about family impact, not just career achievements</p>
<p>• How parenting evolves as children grow into young adults</p>
<p>• Why being present in the moment matters more than perfection</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Parenthood is a journey of learning, not perfection</p>
<p>• Partnership and co-parenting are essential for balance</p>
<p>• Integrity and authenticity create lasting family trust</p>
<p>• Careers rarely follow a straight path, bring your family with you</p>
<p>• Presence is the greatest gift you can give your children</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Brent Cooke:<br />Brent Cooke is a seasoned executive and leader who has built his career while navigating the challenges of fatherhood and family life. His story is one of growth, resilience, and authenticity, marked by lessons in partnership, co-parenting, and living with integrity. Above all, he is a proud father whose legacy is defined not just by professional success, but by the relationships he’s built with his family.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this open and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Brent Cooke to explore the realities of balancing parenthood, career ambitions, and family dynamics.
Brent reflects on the overwhelming early days of fatherhood and the lessons he’s learned about partnership, presence, and integrity along the way. He shares candid stories of how career responsibilities sometimes pulled him away from family life, and the strategies he’s used to stay connected and intentional as both a parent and a professional.
The conversation also dives into the complexities of co-parenting after separation, the evolution of his relationship with his daughter as she enters adulthood, and the importance of authenticity and communication in building strong family bonds. Brent offers practical insights for aspiring leaders who want to grow their careers without losing sight of what matters most at home.
Whether you’re an executive navigating family responsibilities, a parent seeking more presence, or someone reflecting on the legacy you want to leave behind, Brent’s story offers wisdom, honesty, and encouragement.
 
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why no one is ever fully prepared for parenthood
• The importance of partnership in parenting and co-parenting
• How career pressures can test family presence and how to respond
• Why showing up with integrity builds trust with your children
• How to bring your family along on your career journey
• The value of listening and open communication with kids
• Why legacy is about family impact, not just career achievements
• How parenting evolves as children grow into young adults
• Why being present in the moment matters more than perfection
 
Top Takeaways:
• Parenthood is a journey of learning, not perfection
• Partnership and co-parenting are essential for balance
• Integrity and authenticity create lasting family trust
• Careers rarely follow a straight path, bring your family with you
• Presence is the greatest gift you can give your children
 
About Brent Cooke:Brent Cooke is a seasoned executive and leader who has built his career while navigating the challenges of fatherhood and family life. His story is one of growth, resilience, and authenticity, marked by lessons in partnership, co-parenting, and living with integrity. Above all, he is a proud father whose legacy is defined not just by professional success, but by the relationships he’s built with his family.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:44:12</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Arne Arens (Nike, The North Face, Boardriders) on Resilience in the Face of Adversity, the Power of Presence and Empowering Your Team. #010]]>
                </title>
                <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2025 02:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this candid and thought-provoking conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Arne Arens, global executive and former CEO of The North Face, to explore the delicate balance between high-pressure leadership and the demands of family life.</p>
<p>Arne shares the personal experiences that shaped his journey, from the influence of his upbringing, to raising children with health challenges, to the evolution of his leadership philosophy from self-driven ambition to contribution and servant leadership. He reflects on the importance of being present as a parent, the resilience required to face adversity, and how definitions of success shift as children grow older and prepare to leave home.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Arne unpack the lessons of conscious parenting and the realities of executive leadership, offering insights into navigating transitions, maintaining connection with family, and leading with empathy.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an executive navigating your own career, a parent striving to stay present, or someone reflecting on what success truly means, Arne’s story offers wisdom and perspective that will resonate.</p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why presence is the most important gift you can give as a parent <br />• How upbringing influences leadership and parenting styles <br />• Why resilience is a choice when facing life’s hardest challenges <br />• How servant leadership reshapes executive roles <br />• Why balancing work and family requires conscious, ongoing effort <br />• How a child’s health journey can redefine family dynamics <br />• The evolving meaning of success, from personal achievement to contribution <br />• The role of luck and hard work in career advancement <br />• How to instill the value of contribution and hard work in children <br /><br /></p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Parenting requires presence, even in demanding careers <br />• Leadership evolves from ambition to service over time <br />• Resilience is built through choices, not circumstances <br />• Success is not fixed, it evolves with life and family <br />• Contribution, not just achievement, defines true legacy</p>
<p>About Arne Arens: <br />Arne Arens is a global business leader and former CEO of The North Face. Over the course of his career, he has led iconic brands through periods of transformation while developing a leadership philosophy rooted in resilience, empathy, and contribution. Beyond the boardroom, Arne is a dedicated father who has faced the challenges and joys of parenting head-on, and who believes that presence and purpose matter more than titles or accolades.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction and Personal Background</li><li>(00:02:08) - Navigating Parenthood and Career</li><li>(00:19:27) - Reflections on Fatherhood and Leadership</li><li>(00:36:08) - Teamwork and Leadership Evolution</li><li>(00:43:53) - Evolving Definition of Success</li></ul>]]>
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                <itunes:subtitle>
                    <![CDATA[In this candid and thought-provoking conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Arne Arens, global executive and former CEO of The North Face, to explore the delicate balance between high-pressure leadership and the demands of family life.
Arne shares the personal experiences that shaped his journey, from the influence of his upbringing, to raising children with health challenges, to the evolution of his leadership philosophy from self-driven ambition to contribution and servant leadership. He reflects on the importance of being present as a parent, the resilience required to face adversity, and how definitions of success shift as children grow older and prepare to leave home.
Together, Kevin and Arne unpack the lessons of conscious parenting and the realities of executive leadership, offering insights into navigating transitions, maintaining connection with family, and leading with empathy.
Whether you’re an executive navigating your own career, a parent striving to stay present, or someone reflecting on what success truly means, Arne’s story offers wisdom and perspective that will resonate.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why presence is the most important gift you can give as a parent • How upbringing influences leadership and parenting styles • Why resilience is a choice when facing life’s hardest challenges • How servant leadership reshapes executive roles • Why balancing work and family requires conscious, ongoing effort • How a child’s health journey can redefine family dynamics • The evolving meaning of success, from personal achievement to contribution • The role of luck and hard work in career advancement • How to instill the value of contribution and hard work in children 
Top Takeaways:
• Parenting requires presence, even in demanding careers • Leadership evolves from ambition to service over time • Resilience is built through choices, not circumstances • Success is not fixed, it evolves with life and family • Contribution, not just achievement, defines true legacy
About Arne Arens: Arne Arens is a global business leader and former CEO of The North Face. Over the course of his career, he has led iconic brands through periods of transformation while developing a leadership philosophy rooted in resilience, empathy, and contribution. Beyond the boardroom, Arne is a dedicated father who has faced the challenges and joys of parenting head-on, and who believes that presence and purpose matter more than titles or accolades.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Arne Arens (Nike, The North Face, Boardriders) on Resilience in the Face of Adversity, the Power of Presence and Empowering Your Team. #010]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this candid and thought-provoking conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Arne Arens, global executive and former CEO of The North Face, to explore the delicate balance between high-pressure leadership and the demands of family life.</p>
<p>Arne shares the personal experiences that shaped his journey, from the influence of his upbringing, to raising children with health challenges, to the evolution of his leadership philosophy from self-driven ambition to contribution and servant leadership. He reflects on the importance of being present as a parent, the resilience required to face adversity, and how definitions of success shift as children grow older and prepare to leave home.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Arne unpack the lessons of conscious parenting and the realities of executive leadership, offering insights into navigating transitions, maintaining connection with family, and leading with empathy.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an executive navigating your own career, a parent striving to stay present, or someone reflecting on what success truly means, Arne’s story offers wisdom and perspective that will resonate.</p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why presence is the most important gift you can give as a parent <br />• How upbringing influences leadership and parenting styles <br />• Why resilience is a choice when facing life’s hardest challenges <br />• How servant leadership reshapes executive roles <br />• Why balancing work and family requires conscious, ongoing effort <br />• How a child’s health journey can redefine family dynamics <br />• The evolving meaning of success, from personal achievement to contribution <br />• The role of luck and hard work in career advancement <br />• How to instill the value of contribution and hard work in children <br /><br /></p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Parenting requires presence, even in demanding careers <br />• Leadership evolves from ambition to service over time <br />• Resilience is built through choices, not circumstances <br />• Success is not fixed, it evolves with life and family <br />• Contribution, not just achievement, defines true legacy</p>
<p>About Arne Arens: <br />Arne Arens is a global business leader and former CEO of The North Face. Over the course of his career, he has led iconic brands through periods of transformation while developing a leadership philosophy rooted in resilience, empathy, and contribution. Beyond the boardroom, Arne is a dedicated father who has faced the challenges and joys of parenting head-on, and who believes that presence and purpose matter more than titles or accolades.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this candid and thought-provoking conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Arne Arens, global executive and former CEO of The North Face, to explore the delicate balance between high-pressure leadership and the demands of family life.
Arne shares the personal experiences that shaped his journey, from the influence of his upbringing, to raising children with health challenges, to the evolution of his leadership philosophy from self-driven ambition to contribution and servant leadership. He reflects on the importance of being present as a parent, the resilience required to face adversity, and how definitions of success shift as children grow older and prepare to leave home.
Together, Kevin and Arne unpack the lessons of conscious parenting and the realities of executive leadership, offering insights into navigating transitions, maintaining connection with family, and leading with empathy.
Whether you’re an executive navigating your own career, a parent striving to stay present, or someone reflecting on what success truly means, Arne’s story offers wisdom and perspective that will resonate.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why presence is the most important gift you can give as a parent • How upbringing influences leadership and parenting styles • Why resilience is a choice when facing life’s hardest challenges • How servant leadership reshapes executive roles • Why balancing work and family requires conscious, ongoing effort • How a child’s health journey can redefine family dynamics • The evolving meaning of success, from personal achievement to contribution • The role of luck and hard work in career advancement • How to instill the value of contribution and hard work in children 
Top Takeaways:
• Parenting requires presence, even in demanding careers • Leadership evolves from ambition to service over time • Resilience is built through choices, not circumstances • Success is not fixed, it evolves with life and family • Contribution, not just achievement, defines true legacy
About Arne Arens: Arne Arens is a global business leader and former CEO of The North Face. Over the course of his career, he has led iconic brands through periods of transformation while developing a leadership philosophy rooted in resilience, empathy, and contribution. Beyond the boardroom, Arne is a dedicated father who has faced the challenges and joys of parenting head-on, and who believes that presence and purpose matter more than titles or accolades.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Melissa Grady Dias (Cadillac, MetLife, Motorola) Navigating Motherhood, Prioritizing Self-Care and Building Life's Mosaic #009]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2025 13:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Melissa Grady-Diaz, former CMO of Cadillac, to explore the complex intersection of motherhood, career ambition, and personal growth. <br /><br />Melissa opens up about the challenges of maternity leave and the emotional transition of returning to a high-powered role while raising her first child. She shares why bedtime became a sacred ritual, how she learned to set boundaries to protect family time, and why self-care is a non-negotiable for sustainable leadership.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Melissa unpack the lessons of parenthood, from navigating exhaustion to redefining purpose, and reflect on how personal experiences shape leadership at the highest levels. Melissa also reveals how she thinks about career progression, exercise as a form of self-care, and her belief that life is a mosaic—where professional milestones and family moments come together to create meaning.</p>
<p>Whether you’re a working parent balancing career and home, or a leader seeking to align ambition with presence, Melissa’s story offers candid insights and practical wisdom for every stage of life. </p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why returning to work after maternity leave is a deeply emotional journey <br />• The importance of protecting family time—especially bedtime rituals <br />• How motherhood can transform leadership style and priorities <br />• Why self-care is essential for balance and resilience <br />• The value of setting personal and professional boundaries <br />• How flexibility and adaptability drive both parenting and leadership <br />• Why reflection on past experiences creates growth and clarity <br />• How finding purpose in work leads to fulfillment beyond achievement <br />• Why life is best seen as a mosaic of personal and professional experiences</p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Parenthood reshapes leadership in powerful ways <br />• Bedtime routines and rituals are worth protecting at all costs <br />• Boundaries are the key to sustaining balance <br />• Self-care fuels both parenting and career success <br />• Reflection and adaptability lead to lasting personal growth <br />• Purpose, not just progress, creates fulfillment in career and family <br /><br />About Melissa Grady-Diaz: Melissa Grady-Diaz is the former Chief Marketing Officer of Cadillac, where she led brand transformation at one of America’s most iconic companies. A seasoned marketing executive, she has been recognized for her leadership, creativity, and ability to drive results in high-pressure environments. Beyond her career, Melissa is a proud mother whose experiences of parenthood have shaped her perspective on leadership, presence, and purpose in life.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:07:39) - Balancing A C-Suite Role and First-Time Parenthood</li><li>(00:09:31) - The Importance of Presence and Quality Time</li><li>(00:14:21) - Adjusting Back Into Work Post Maternity Leave</li><li>(00:15:54) - Holding Personal Boundaries and Self Care</li><li>(00:20:24) - Transformational Leadership</li><li>(00:24:35) - Growing in Your Career and Staying Present for Family</li><li>(00:28:15) - The Importance of Exercise in Self Care</li><li>(00:33:53) - Defining Moments: Before and After in Life</li><li>(00:36:48) - Building Your Life: The Power of Choice</li><li>(00:42:09) - The Mosaic of Life: Integrating Personal and Professional</li><li>(00:44:59) - Finding Purpose in Your Career</li><li>(00:51:38) - Creating a Lasting Legacy</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Melissa Grady-Diaz, former CMO of Cadillac, to explore the complex intersection of motherhood, career ambition, and personal growth. Melissa opens up about the challenges of maternity leave and the emotional transition of returning to a high-powered role while raising her first child. She shares why bedtime became a sacred ritual, how she learned to set boundaries to protect family time, and why self-care is a non-negotiable for sustainable leadership.
Together, Kevin and Melissa unpack the lessons of parenthood, from navigating exhaustion to redefining purpose, and reflect on how personal experiences shape leadership at the highest levels. Melissa also reveals how she thinks about career progression, exercise as a form of self-care, and her belief that life is a mosaic—where professional milestones and family moments come together to create meaning.
Whether you’re a working parent balancing career and home, or a leader seeking to align ambition with presence, Melissa’s story offers candid insights and practical wisdom for every stage of life. 
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why returning to work after maternity leave is a deeply emotional journey • The importance of protecting family time—especially bedtime rituals • How motherhood can transform leadership style and priorities • Why self-care is essential for balance and resilience • The value of setting personal and professional boundaries • How flexibility and adaptability drive both parenting and leadership • Why reflection on past experiences creates growth and clarity • How finding purpose in work leads to fulfillment beyond achievement • Why life is best seen as a mosaic of personal and professional experiences
Top Takeaways:
• Parenthood reshapes leadership in powerful ways • Bedtime routines and rituals are worth protecting at all costs • Boundaries are the key to sustaining balance • Self-care fuels both parenting and career success • Reflection and adaptability lead to lasting personal growth • Purpose, not just progress, creates fulfillment in career and family About Melissa Grady-Diaz: Melissa Grady-Diaz is the former Chief Marketing Officer of Cadillac, where she led brand transformation at one of America’s most iconic companies. A seasoned marketing executive, she has been recognized for her leadership, creativity, and ability to drive results in high-pressure environments. Beyond her career, Melissa is a proud mother whose experiences of parenthood have shaped her perspective on leadership, presence, and purpose in life.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Melissa Grady Dias (Cadillac, MetLife, Motorola) Navigating Motherhood, Prioritizing Self-Care and Building Life's Mosaic #009]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Melissa Grady-Diaz, former CMO of Cadillac, to explore the complex intersection of motherhood, career ambition, and personal growth. <br /><br />Melissa opens up about the challenges of maternity leave and the emotional transition of returning to a high-powered role while raising her first child. She shares why bedtime became a sacred ritual, how she learned to set boundaries to protect family time, and why self-care is a non-negotiable for sustainable leadership.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Melissa unpack the lessons of parenthood, from navigating exhaustion to redefining purpose, and reflect on how personal experiences shape leadership at the highest levels. Melissa also reveals how she thinks about career progression, exercise as a form of self-care, and her belief that life is a mosaic—where professional milestones and family moments come together to create meaning.</p>
<p>Whether you’re a working parent balancing career and home, or a leader seeking to align ambition with presence, Melissa’s story offers candid insights and practical wisdom for every stage of life. </p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why returning to work after maternity leave is a deeply emotional journey <br />• The importance of protecting family time—especially bedtime rituals <br />• How motherhood can transform leadership style and priorities <br />• Why self-care is essential for balance and resilience <br />• The value of setting personal and professional boundaries <br />• How flexibility and adaptability drive both parenting and leadership <br />• Why reflection on past experiences creates growth and clarity <br />• How finding purpose in work leads to fulfillment beyond achievement <br />• Why life is best seen as a mosaic of personal and professional experiences</p>
<p>Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Parenthood reshapes leadership in powerful ways <br />• Bedtime routines and rituals are worth protecting at all costs <br />• Boundaries are the key to sustaining balance <br />• Self-care fuels both parenting and career success <br />• Reflection and adaptability lead to lasting personal growth <br />• Purpose, not just progress, creates fulfillment in career and family <br /><br />About Melissa Grady-Diaz: Melissa Grady-Diaz is the former Chief Marketing Officer of Cadillac, where she led brand transformation at one of America’s most iconic companies. A seasoned marketing executive, she has been recognized for her leadership, creativity, and ability to drive results in high-pressure environments. Beyond her career, Melissa is a proud mother whose experiences of parenthood have shaped her perspective on leadership, presence, and purpose in life.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Melissa Grady-Diaz, former CMO of Cadillac, to explore the complex intersection of motherhood, career ambition, and personal growth. Melissa opens up about the challenges of maternity leave and the emotional transition of returning to a high-powered role while raising her first child. She shares why bedtime became a sacred ritual, how she learned to set boundaries to protect family time, and why self-care is a non-negotiable for sustainable leadership.
Together, Kevin and Melissa unpack the lessons of parenthood, from navigating exhaustion to redefining purpose, and reflect on how personal experiences shape leadership at the highest levels. Melissa also reveals how she thinks about career progression, exercise as a form of self-care, and her belief that life is a mosaic—where professional milestones and family moments come together to create meaning.
Whether you’re a working parent balancing career and home, or a leader seeking to align ambition with presence, Melissa’s story offers candid insights and practical wisdom for every stage of life. 
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why returning to work after maternity leave is a deeply emotional journey • The importance of protecting family time—especially bedtime rituals • How motherhood can transform leadership style and priorities • Why self-care is essential for balance and resilience • The value of setting personal and professional boundaries • How flexibility and adaptability drive both parenting and leadership • Why reflection on past experiences creates growth and clarity • How finding purpose in work leads to fulfillment beyond achievement • Why life is best seen as a mosaic of personal and professional experiences
Top Takeaways:
• Parenthood reshapes leadership in powerful ways • Bedtime routines and rituals are worth protecting at all costs • Boundaries are the key to sustaining balance • Self-care fuels both parenting and career success • Reflection and adaptability lead to lasting personal growth • Purpose, not just progress, creates fulfillment in career and family About Melissa Grady-Diaz: Melissa Grady-Diaz is the former Chief Marketing Officer of Cadillac, where she led brand transformation at one of America’s most iconic companies. A seasoned marketing executive, she has been recognized for her leadership, creativity, and ability to drive results in high-pressure environments. Beyond her career, Melissa is a proud mother whose experiences of parenthood have shaped her perspective on leadership, presence, and purpose in life.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:53:28</itunes:duration>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kyle Lacy (Lessonly, Seismic, Docebo) Sobriety, Fatherhood, Burnout and the Power of Owning a Revenue Number in Marketing #008]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2025 11:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this insightful and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Kyle Lacey, CMO of Docebo, to explore the realities of leading in high-growth marketing while navigating the demands of fatherhood and family life.</p>
<p>Kyle opens up about the early lessons that shaped his career in B2B marketing, including why “presence, not balance” has become his guiding principle. He reflects on the concept of “head trash”, the inner dialogue that often holds leaders back, and how sobriety, exercise, and intentional choices helped him reshape both his personal and professional life.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Kyle unpack the challenges of building a thriving career while showing up fully at home. Kyle shares how becoming a father transformed his perspective on leadership, the importance of open communication with family, and the courage it takes to step back when life demands it. He also reveals what it really means to own a revenue number as a marketer, and how he hopes to pass on lessons of hard work, passion, and resilience to his children.</p>
<p>Whether you’re managing burnout, climbing the next rung in your career, or striving to be more intentional with your family, Kyle’s story is full of honesty, reflection, and practical wisdom you can apply today. <br /><br /></p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why presence matters more than balance in work and life <br />• How “head trash” affects leaders and how to move past it <br />• The role sobriety and exercise can play in sustaining personal growth <br />• Why taking time off can make you a stronger parent and leader <br />• The value of owning a revenue number in marketing <br />• How open communication at home strengthens leadership at work <br />• Why it’s okay to love what you do, even when it’s hard <br />• What lessons Kyle hopes his children carry into adulthood <br /><br />Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Leadership starts with presence and self-awareness <br />• Burnout can be a turning point for growth if managed with intention <br />• Family time becomes meaningful when it’s protected and planned <br />• Sobriety and healthy habits are game changers for resilience <br />• Teaching children the value of hard work and passion is part of legacy</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Kyle Lacey:</p>
<p>Kyle Lacey is the Chief Marketing Officer at Docebo, a leading learning platform redefining enterprise education. With a career spanning high-growth SaaS and B2B marketing, Kyle is passionate about building brands, owning revenue, and developing high-performing teams. Beyond the office, he’s a dedicated husband and father who believes leadership isn’t just about business, it’s about showing up with presence, honesty, and intention in every aspect of life.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction</li><li>(00:02:17) - Navigating Career and Fatherhood</li><li>(00:07:06) - Understanding Head Trash and Emotional Intelligence</li><li>(00:12:17) - Managing Burnout and Post Burnout Recovery</li><li>(00:14:39) - Navigating Life Changes and Giving Up Alcohol</li><li>(00:17:57) - Coping Mechanisms and Personal Development</li><li>(00:21:20) - Maintaining Boundaries At Work and Whilst Travelling</li><li>(00:26:08) - Balancing Career and Home Life</li><li>(00:30:23) - Career Progression and Executive Insights</li><li>(00:35:51) - Creating Intentional Family Time</li><li>(00:37:56) - Lessons for Your Children and Future Generations</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this insightful and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Kyle Lacey, CMO of Docebo, to explore the realities of leading in high-growth marketing while navigating the demands of fatherhood and family life.
Kyle opens up about the early lessons that shaped his career in B2B marketing, including why “presence, not balance” has become his guiding principle. He reflects on the concept of “head trash”, the inner dialogue that often holds leaders back, and how sobriety, exercise, and intentional choices helped him reshape both his personal and professional life.
Together, Kevin and Kyle unpack the challenges of building a thriving career while showing up fully at home. Kyle shares how becoming a father transformed his perspective on leadership, the importance of open communication with family, and the courage it takes to step back when life demands it. He also reveals what it really means to own a revenue number as a marketer, and how he hopes to pass on lessons of hard work, passion, and resilience to his children.
Whether you’re managing burnout, climbing the next rung in your career, or striving to be more intentional with your family, Kyle’s story is full of honesty, reflection, and practical wisdom you can apply today. 
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why presence matters more than balance in work and life • How “head trash” affects leaders and how to move past it • The role sobriety and exercise can play in sustaining personal growth • Why taking time off can make you a stronger parent and leader • The value of owning a revenue number in marketing • How open communication at home strengthens leadership at work • Why it’s okay to love what you do, even when it’s hard • What lessons Kyle hopes his children carry into adulthood Top Takeaways:
• Leadership starts with presence and self-awareness • Burnout can be a turning point for growth if managed with intention • Family time becomes meaningful when it’s protected and planned • Sobriety and healthy habits are game changers for resilience • Teaching children the value of hard work and passion is part of legacy
 
About Kyle Lacey:
Kyle Lacey is the Chief Marketing Officer at Docebo, a leading learning platform redefining enterprise education. With a career spanning high-growth SaaS and B2B marketing, Kyle is passionate about building brands, owning revenue, and developing high-performing teams. Beyond the office, he’s a dedicated husband and father who believes leadership isn’t just about business, it’s about showing up with presence, honesty, and intention in every aspect of life.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kyle Lacy (Lessonly, Seismic, Docebo) Sobriety, Fatherhood, Burnout and the Power of Owning a Revenue Number in Marketing #008]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this insightful and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Kyle Lacey, CMO of Docebo, to explore the realities of leading in high-growth marketing while navigating the demands of fatherhood and family life.</p>
<p>Kyle opens up about the early lessons that shaped his career in B2B marketing, including why “presence, not balance” has become his guiding principle. He reflects on the concept of “head trash”, the inner dialogue that often holds leaders back, and how sobriety, exercise, and intentional choices helped him reshape both his personal and professional life.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Kyle unpack the challenges of building a thriving career while showing up fully at home. Kyle shares how becoming a father transformed his perspective on leadership, the importance of open communication with family, and the courage it takes to step back when life demands it. He also reveals what it really means to own a revenue number as a marketer, and how he hopes to pass on lessons of hard work, passion, and resilience to his children.</p>
<p>Whether you’re managing burnout, climbing the next rung in your career, or striving to be more intentional with your family, Kyle’s story is full of honesty, reflection, and practical wisdom you can apply today. <br /><br /></p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why presence matters more than balance in work and life <br />• How “head trash” affects leaders and how to move past it <br />• The role sobriety and exercise can play in sustaining personal growth <br />• Why taking time off can make you a stronger parent and leader <br />• The value of owning a revenue number in marketing <br />• How open communication at home strengthens leadership at work <br />• Why it’s okay to love what you do, even when it’s hard <br />• What lessons Kyle hopes his children carry into adulthood <br /><br />Top Takeaways:</p>
<p>• Leadership starts with presence and self-awareness <br />• Burnout can be a turning point for growth if managed with intention <br />• Family time becomes meaningful when it’s protected and planned <br />• Sobriety and healthy habits are game changers for resilience <br />• Teaching children the value of hard work and passion is part of legacy</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Kyle Lacey:</p>
<p>Kyle Lacey is the Chief Marketing Officer at Docebo, a leading learning platform redefining enterprise education. With a career spanning high-growth SaaS and B2B marketing, Kyle is passionate about building brands, owning revenue, and developing high-performing teams. Beyond the office, he’s a dedicated husband and father who believes leadership isn’t just about business, it’s about showing up with presence, honesty, and intention in every aspect of life.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this insightful and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Kyle Lacey, CMO of Docebo, to explore the realities of leading in high-growth marketing while navigating the demands of fatherhood and family life.
Kyle opens up about the early lessons that shaped his career in B2B marketing, including why “presence, not balance” has become his guiding principle. He reflects on the concept of “head trash”, the inner dialogue that often holds leaders back, and how sobriety, exercise, and intentional choices helped him reshape both his personal and professional life.
Together, Kevin and Kyle unpack the challenges of building a thriving career while showing up fully at home. Kyle shares how becoming a father transformed his perspective on leadership, the importance of open communication with family, and the courage it takes to step back when life demands it. He also reveals what it really means to own a revenue number as a marketer, and how he hopes to pass on lessons of hard work, passion, and resilience to his children.
Whether you’re managing burnout, climbing the next rung in your career, or striving to be more intentional with your family, Kyle’s story is full of honesty, reflection, and practical wisdom you can apply today. 
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why presence matters more than balance in work and life • How “head trash” affects leaders and how to move past it • The role sobriety and exercise can play in sustaining personal growth • Why taking time off can make you a stronger parent and leader • The value of owning a revenue number in marketing • How open communication at home strengthens leadership at work • Why it’s okay to love what you do, even when it’s hard • What lessons Kyle hopes his children carry into adulthood Top Takeaways:
• Leadership starts with presence and self-awareness • Burnout can be a turning point for growth if managed with intention • Family time becomes meaningful when it’s protected and planned • Sobriety and healthy habits are game changers for resilience • Teaching children the value of hard work and passion is part of legacy
 
About Kyle Lacey:
Kyle Lacey is the Chief Marketing Officer at Docebo, a leading learning platform redefining enterprise education. With a career spanning high-growth SaaS and B2B marketing, Kyle is passionate about building brands, owning revenue, and developing high-performing teams. Beyond the office, he’s a dedicated husband and father who believes leadership isn’t just about business, it’s about showing up with presence, honesty, and intention in every aspect of life.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lydia Smith (Victoria's Secret, Kohl's) Transformational Leadership in Marketing and Creating Legacy through Authenticity and Open Conversations #007]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2025 09:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this inspiring and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Lydia Smith, a transformational leader in inclusive marketing, to explore what it means to lead with authenticity while balancing family, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.</p>
<p>Lydia opens up about her transition from Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret to building a business alongside her daughter, a venture rooted in both legacy and love. She shares the lessons she’s learned about the loneliness of leadership, the importance of community support, and how journaling became a powerful tool for clarity and self-discovery.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Lydia discuss the role of rest, reflection, and self-care in navigating career transitions, why listening to diverse consumer voices is essential in marketing, and how parenting has shaped Lydia’s leadership style. She also highlights the importance of creating safe spaces for children to communicate openly, and the legacy of passion and authenticity she hopes to leave for her daughters.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent striving to balance career and family, or a leader seeking to create more inclusive spaces, this episode offers wisdom on resilience, leadership, and the power of building with intention.</p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn: <br />• Why rest and reflection are essential in career transitions <br />• How journaling supports clarity, self-awareness, and growth <br />• The challenges and joys of building a business with family <br />• Why community support matters in leadership <br />• How listening to diverse perspectives strengthens marketing <br />• The parallels between parenting and leadership <br />• The importance of creating safe spaces for open communication <br />• Why supporting your leaders helps teams thrive <br />• The legacy of authenticity Lydia hopes to leave for her daughters </p>
<p><br />Top Takeaways: <br />• Leadership requires both strength and vulnerability <br />• Self-care is not indulgence, it’s strategy for sustainable success <br />• Inclusive marketing starts with truly listening <br />• Parenting teaches the same lessons that make great leaders <br />• Legacy is built on authenticity, not accolades</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Lydia Smith: <br />Lydia Smith is a transformational leader, entrepreneur, and advocate for inclusive marketing. Formerly the Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret, she now channels her passion into building her own business with her daughter, merging family and professional purpose. With a deep commitment to authenticity, equity, and creating safe spaces for dialogue, Lydia continues to inspire leaders and parents alike to balance ambition with heart.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Balancing Career and Family Life</li><li>(00:00:59) - Transitioning from Corporate to Consulting</li><li>(00:08:02) - Self-Care and Personal Growth</li><li>(00:15:49) - Leadership Lessons from Personal Experiences</li><li>(00:19:11) - Influencing Change in Corporate Environments</li><li>(00:19:25) - Influencing Without Authority</li><li>(00:21:32) - Evolving Parenting Roles</li><li>(00:26:20) - The Power of Consumer Voices</li><li>(00:30:09) - Reflections on Parenting and Personal Growth</li><li>(00:36:50) - Balancing Career and Family Life</li><li>(00:40:48) - Supporting Leadership and Team Dynamics</li><li>(00:43:12) - Legacy and Authentic Leadership</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this inspiring and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Lydia Smith, a transformational leader in inclusive marketing, to explore what it means to lead with authenticity while balancing family, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.
Lydia opens up about her transition from Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret to building a business alongside her daughter, a venture rooted in both legacy and love. She shares the lessons she’s learned about the loneliness of leadership, the importance of community support, and how journaling became a powerful tool for clarity and self-discovery.
Together, Kevin and Lydia discuss the role of rest, reflection, and self-care in navigating career transitions, why listening to diverse consumer voices is essential in marketing, and how parenting has shaped Lydia’s leadership style. She also highlights the importance of creating safe spaces for children to communicate openly, and the legacy of passion and authenticity she hopes to leave for her daughters.
Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent striving to balance career and family, or a leader seeking to create more inclusive spaces, this episode offers wisdom on resilience, leadership, and the power of building with intention.
In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why rest and reflection are essential in career transitions • How journaling supports clarity, self-awareness, and growth • The challenges and joys of building a business with family • Why community support matters in leadership • How listening to diverse perspectives strengthens marketing • The parallels between parenting and leadership • The importance of creating safe spaces for open communication • Why supporting your leaders helps teams thrive • The legacy of authenticity Lydia hopes to leave for her daughters 
Top Takeaways: • Leadership requires both strength and vulnerability • Self-care is not indulgence, it’s strategy for sustainable success • Inclusive marketing starts with truly listening • Parenting teaches the same lessons that make great leaders • Legacy is built on authenticity, not accolades
 
About Lydia Smith: Lydia Smith is a transformational leader, entrepreneur, and advocate for inclusive marketing. Formerly the Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret, she now channels her passion into building her own business with her daughter, merging family and professional purpose. With a deep commitment to authenticity, equity, and creating safe spaces for dialogue, Lydia continues to inspire leaders and parents alike to balance ambition with heart.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Lydia Smith (Victoria's Secret, Kohl's) Transformational Leadership in Marketing and Creating Legacy through Authenticity and Open Conversations #007]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this inspiring and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Lydia Smith, a transformational leader in inclusive marketing, to explore what it means to lead with authenticity while balancing family, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.</p>
<p>Lydia opens up about her transition from Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret to building a business alongside her daughter, a venture rooted in both legacy and love. She shares the lessons she’s learned about the loneliness of leadership, the importance of community support, and how journaling became a powerful tool for clarity and self-discovery.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Lydia discuss the role of rest, reflection, and self-care in navigating career transitions, why listening to diverse consumer voices is essential in marketing, and how parenting has shaped Lydia’s leadership style. She also highlights the importance of creating safe spaces for children to communicate openly, and the legacy of passion and authenticity she hopes to leave for her daughters.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent striving to balance career and family, or a leader seeking to create more inclusive spaces, this episode offers wisdom on resilience, leadership, and the power of building with intention.</p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn: <br />• Why rest and reflection are essential in career transitions <br />• How journaling supports clarity, self-awareness, and growth <br />• The challenges and joys of building a business with family <br />• Why community support matters in leadership <br />• How listening to diverse perspectives strengthens marketing <br />• The parallels between parenting and leadership <br />• The importance of creating safe spaces for open communication <br />• Why supporting your leaders helps teams thrive <br />• The legacy of authenticity Lydia hopes to leave for her daughters </p>
<p><br />Top Takeaways: <br />• Leadership requires both strength and vulnerability <br />• Self-care is not indulgence, it’s strategy for sustainable success <br />• Inclusive marketing starts with truly listening <br />• Parenting teaches the same lessons that make great leaders <br />• Legacy is built on authenticity, not accolades</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Lydia Smith: <br />Lydia Smith is a transformational leader, entrepreneur, and advocate for inclusive marketing. Formerly the Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret, she now channels her passion into building her own business with her daughter, merging family and professional purpose. With a deep commitment to authenticity, equity, and creating safe spaces for dialogue, Lydia continues to inspire leaders and parents alike to balance ambition with heart.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this inspiring and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Lydia Smith, a transformational leader in inclusive marketing, to explore what it means to lead with authenticity while balancing family, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.
Lydia opens up about her transition from Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret to building a business alongside her daughter, a venture rooted in both legacy and love. She shares the lessons she’s learned about the loneliness of leadership, the importance of community support, and how journaling became a powerful tool for clarity and self-discovery.
Together, Kevin and Lydia discuss the role of rest, reflection, and self-care in navigating career transitions, why listening to diverse consumer voices is essential in marketing, and how parenting has shaped Lydia’s leadership style. She also highlights the importance of creating safe spaces for children to communicate openly, and the legacy of passion and authenticity she hopes to leave for her daughters.
Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent striving to balance career and family, or a leader seeking to create more inclusive spaces, this episode offers wisdom on resilience, leadership, and the power of building with intention.
In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why rest and reflection are essential in career transitions • How journaling supports clarity, self-awareness, and growth • The challenges and joys of building a business with family • Why community support matters in leadership • How listening to diverse perspectives strengthens marketing • The parallels between parenting and leadership • The importance of creating safe spaces for open communication • Why supporting your leaders helps teams thrive • The legacy of authenticity Lydia hopes to leave for her daughters 
Top Takeaways: • Leadership requires both strength and vulnerability • Self-care is not indulgence, it’s strategy for sustainable success • Inclusive marketing starts with truly listening • Parenting teaches the same lessons that make great leaders • Legacy is built on authenticity, not accolades
 
About Lydia Smith: Lydia Smith is a transformational leader, entrepreneur, and advocate for inclusive marketing. Formerly the Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret, she now channels her passion into building her own business with her daughter, merging family and professional purpose. With a deep commitment to authenticity, equity, and creating safe spaces for dialogue, Lydia continues to inspire leaders and parents alike to balance ambition with heart.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Brandon Coleman III (Cotton Patch Cafe, TGI Fridays, Dave & Buster's), A Conversation in Leading Turnarounds, Culture and the Importance of Presence in Parenting #006]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2025 13:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this thoughtful and grounded conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Brandon Coleman, a leader in the hospitality industry, to talk about navigating leadership through crisis while staying deeply committed to family and personal values.</p>
<p>Brandon shares his journey through the fast-paced world of hospitality, reflecting on pivotal career moments—including leading through the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. He opens up about the lessons learned from failure, the importance of culture in business turnarounds, and why empowering teams through ownership leads to stronger accountability and results.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Brandon explore what it means to balance an ambitious career with family life, the role of emotional presence in parenting, and how a balanced stakeholder approach can shape sustainable business growth. Brandon reflects on the leadership insights he hopes to pass on, both to his teams and to his children, highlighting that the legacy he wants to leave is one of love and support.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an executive in the middle of a career transformation, a leader striving to empower your team, or a parent working to show up more fully at home, this episode offers lessons in leadership, humility, and heart.</p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why a balanced stakeholder approach leads to healthier businesses <br />• How empowering teams creates accountability and ownership <br />• The leadership lessons that only failure can teach <br />• Why culture is the foundation for successful turnarounds <br />• How communication supports balance between work and family life <br />• The difference between being physically present and emotionally engaged as a parent <br />• Why humility and adaptability are critical in leadership <br />• How personal values shape long-term career decisions <br />• The legacy Brandon hopes to leave for his children <br />• Why leadership is a lifelong learning process </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Top Takeaways: <br />• Balanced leadership means considering guests, team members, and shareholders equally • Empowerment builds stronger, more accountable teams <br />• Failure is an essential teacher in leadership growth <br />• Culture is the heartbeat of any successful transformation <br />• True presence in parenting goes beyond time—it’s about emotional engagement <br />• Humility and adaptability define sustainable leadership <br />• Communication is the bridge between family and career balance <br />• Legacy is not built on accolades, but on love and values passed on</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Brandon Coleman III: <br />Brandon Coleman III is the CEO of Cotton Patch Cafe, where he is leading the 48-unit Texas comfort-food brand through a bold growth plan to become the state’s largest by 2030. Previously, Brandon served as CEO of TGI Fridays, and held senior leadership roles at Dave &amp; Buster’s, Del Frisco’s Restaurant Group, and Romano’s Macaroni Grill. An Ad Age “40 Under 40” honoree, Brandon is recognized for driving brand turnarounds, operational growth, and people-first cultures. Passionate about community impact, he has led Cotton Patch initiatives donating to Giving Kitchen and Kerr Country Relief Fund. A devoted husband and father, Brandon believes leadership is measured as much at home as it is in the boardroom.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Introduction and Career Lessons</li><li>(00:00:39) - Balancing Family and Work Life</li><li>(00:03:43) - Passions and Outdoor Adventures</li><li>(00:05:27) - Leadership Lessons from Failure</li><li>(00:11:26) - Balanced Stakeholder Approach in Leadership</li><li>(00:17:54) - From Competition to Contribution</li><li>(00:20:52) - Navigating Change in Leadership</li><li>(00:22:47) - Transformations and Turnarounds</li><li>(00:26:42) - Balancing Ambitious Careers</li><li>(00:32:35) - The Dance of Family and Work</li><li>(00:41:17) - Legacy of Leadership and Love</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this thoughtful and grounded conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Brandon Coleman, a leader in the hospitality industry, to talk about navigating leadership through crisis while staying deeply committed to family and personal values.
Brandon shares his journey through the fast-paced world of hospitality, reflecting on pivotal career moments—including leading through the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. He opens up about the lessons learned from failure, the importance of culture in business turnarounds, and why empowering teams through ownership leads to stronger accountability and results.
Together, Kevin and Brandon explore what it means to balance an ambitious career with family life, the role of emotional presence in parenting, and how a balanced stakeholder approach can shape sustainable business growth. Brandon reflects on the leadership insights he hopes to pass on, both to his teams and to his children, highlighting that the legacy he wants to leave is one of love and support.
Whether you’re an executive in the middle of a career transformation, a leader striving to empower your team, or a parent working to show up more fully at home, this episode offers lessons in leadership, humility, and heart.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why a balanced stakeholder approach leads to healthier businesses • How empowering teams creates accountability and ownership • The leadership lessons that only failure can teach • Why culture is the foundation for successful turnarounds • How communication supports balance between work and family life • The difference between being physically present and emotionally engaged as a parent • Why humility and adaptability are critical in leadership • How personal values shape long-term career decisions • The legacy Brandon hopes to leave for his children • Why leadership is a lifelong learning process 
 
Top Takeaways: • Balanced leadership means considering guests, team members, and shareholders equally • Empowerment builds stronger, more accountable teams • Failure is an essential teacher in leadership growth • Culture is the heartbeat of any successful transformation • True presence in parenting goes beyond time—it’s about emotional engagement • Humility and adaptability define sustainable leadership • Communication is the bridge between family and career balance • Legacy is not built on accolades, but on love and values passed on
 
About Brandon Coleman III: Brandon Coleman III is the CEO of Cotton Patch Cafe, where he is leading the 48-unit Texas comfort-food brand through a bold growth plan to become the state’s largest by 2030. Previously, Brandon served as CEO of TGI Fridays, and held senior leadership roles at Dave & Buster’s, Del Frisco’s Restaurant Group, and Romano’s Macaroni Grill. An Ad Age “40 Under 40” honoree, Brandon is recognized for driving brand turnarounds, operational growth, and people-first cultures. Passionate about community impact, he has led Cotton Patch initiatives donating to Giving Kitchen and Kerr Country Relief Fund. A devoted husband and father, Brandon believes leadership is measured as much at home as it is in the boardroom.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Brandon Coleman III (Cotton Patch Cafe, TGI Fridays, Dave & Buster's), A Conversation in Leading Turnarounds, Culture and the Importance of Presence in Parenting #006]]>
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                                    <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this thoughtful and grounded conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Brandon Coleman, a leader in the hospitality industry, to talk about navigating leadership through crisis while staying deeply committed to family and personal values.</p>
<p>Brandon shares his journey through the fast-paced world of hospitality, reflecting on pivotal career moments—including leading through the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. He opens up about the lessons learned from failure, the importance of culture in business turnarounds, and why empowering teams through ownership leads to stronger accountability and results.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Brandon explore what it means to balance an ambitious career with family life, the role of emotional presence in parenting, and how a balanced stakeholder approach can shape sustainable business growth. Brandon reflects on the leadership insights he hopes to pass on, both to his teams and to his children, highlighting that the legacy he wants to leave is one of love and support.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an executive in the middle of a career transformation, a leader striving to empower your team, or a parent working to show up more fully at home, this episode offers lessons in leadership, humility, and heart.</p>
<p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<p>• Why a balanced stakeholder approach leads to healthier businesses <br />• How empowering teams creates accountability and ownership <br />• The leadership lessons that only failure can teach <br />• Why culture is the foundation for successful turnarounds <br />• How communication supports balance between work and family life <br />• The difference between being physically present and emotionally engaged as a parent <br />• Why humility and adaptability are critical in leadership <br />• How personal values shape long-term career decisions <br />• The legacy Brandon hopes to leave for his children <br />• Why leadership is a lifelong learning process </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Top Takeaways: <br />• Balanced leadership means considering guests, team members, and shareholders equally • Empowerment builds stronger, more accountable teams <br />• Failure is an essential teacher in leadership growth <br />• Culture is the heartbeat of any successful transformation <br />• True presence in parenting goes beyond time—it’s about emotional engagement <br />• Humility and adaptability define sustainable leadership <br />• Communication is the bridge between family and career balance <br />• Legacy is not built on accolades, but on love and values passed on</p>
<p> </p>
<p>About Brandon Coleman III: <br />Brandon Coleman III is the CEO of Cotton Patch Cafe, where he is leading the 48-unit Texas comfort-food brand through a bold growth plan to become the state’s largest by 2030. Previously, Brandon served as CEO of TGI Fridays, and held senior leadership roles at Dave &amp; Buster’s, Del Frisco’s Restaurant Group, and Romano’s Macaroni Grill. An Ad Age “40 Under 40” honoree, Brandon is recognized for driving brand turnarounds, operational growth, and people-first cultures. Passionate about community impact, he has led Cotton Patch initiatives donating to Giving Kitchen and Kerr Country Relief Fund. A devoted husband and father, Brandon believes leadership is measured as much at home as it is in the boardroom.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this thoughtful and grounded conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Brandon Coleman, a leader in the hospitality industry, to talk about navigating leadership through crisis while staying deeply committed to family and personal values.
Brandon shares his journey through the fast-paced world of hospitality, reflecting on pivotal career moments—including leading through the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. He opens up about the lessons learned from failure, the importance of culture in business turnarounds, and why empowering teams through ownership leads to stronger accountability and results.
Together, Kevin and Brandon explore what it means to balance an ambitious career with family life, the role of emotional presence in parenting, and how a balanced stakeholder approach can shape sustainable business growth. Brandon reflects on the leadership insights he hopes to pass on, both to his teams and to his children, highlighting that the legacy he wants to leave is one of love and support.
Whether you’re an executive in the middle of a career transformation, a leader striving to empower your team, or a parent working to show up more fully at home, this episode offers lessons in leadership, humility, and heart.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why a balanced stakeholder approach leads to healthier businesses • How empowering teams creates accountability and ownership • The leadership lessons that only failure can teach • Why culture is the foundation for successful turnarounds • How communication supports balance between work and family life • The difference between being physically present and emotionally engaged as a parent • Why humility and adaptability are critical in leadership • How personal values shape long-term career decisions • The legacy Brandon hopes to leave for his children • Why leadership is a lifelong learning process 
 
Top Takeaways: • Balanced leadership means considering guests, team members, and shareholders equally • Empowerment builds stronger, more accountable teams • Failure is an essential teacher in leadership growth • Culture is the heartbeat of any successful transformation • True presence in parenting goes beyond time—it’s about emotional engagement • Humility and adaptability define sustainable leadership • Communication is the bridge between family and career balance • Legacy is not built on accolades, but on love and values passed on
 
About Brandon Coleman III: Brandon Coleman III is the CEO of Cotton Patch Cafe, where he is leading the 48-unit Texas comfort-food brand through a bold growth plan to become the state’s largest by 2030. Previously, Brandon served as CEO of TGI Fridays, and held senior leadership roles at Dave & Buster’s, Del Frisco’s Restaurant Group, and Romano’s Macaroni Grill. An Ad Age “40 Under 40” honoree, Brandon is recognized for driving brand turnarounds, operational growth, and people-first cultures. Passionate about community impact, he has led Cotton Patch initiatives donating to Giving Kitchen and Kerr Country Relief Fund. A devoted husband and father, Brandon believes leadership is measured as much at home as it is in the boardroom.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jenna Bromberg (Pizza Hut, Carter's and Papa Johns) on Momentum, Motherhood and Creating Legacy Campaigns #005]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2025 20:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this open and empowering conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jenna Bromberg, Chief Marketing Officer at Papa John’s, to talk about building a career you love while staying deeply rooted in family and personal values.</p>
<p>Jenna shares her journey through the fast-paced world of marketing, from early career moves to leading some of the industry’s most recognizable campaigns, including Carter’s “Hello Optimism.” She opens up about the pivotal career decisions that shaped her leadership style, the lessons learned from stepping into big roles, and the influence of mentors and family along the way.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Jenna explore what it means to navigate motherhood while holding an executive title, the role of support systems in seasons of transition, and how to give yourself grace when life feels overwhelming. Jenna reflects on the power of emotional storytelling in marketing, the importance of designing your own career path, and how leadership lessons often come from parenting moments.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an aspiring executive, a working parent, or someone seeking a more intentional career, this episode offers both the strategy and heart needed to grow without losing yourself along the way.</p>
<p><br />In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>How to create momentum in your career by taking initiative</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why attitude shapes opportunity and growth</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The role of support systems during major life and career changes</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Communication strategies for balancing work and family life</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to design a career path that’s true to you</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why emotional storytelling connects more deeply with audiences</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How parenting can shape and strengthen your leadership skills</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The importance of giving yourself grace in challenging seasons</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Ways to stay open and adaptable when your career vision changes</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How mentorship can transform your professional journey</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br />Top Takeaways:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Career growth is built on initiative and adaptability</p>
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<li>
<p>Support systems are essential for thriving in motherhood and leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Grace is a leadership tool, both for yourself and others</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Storytelling in marketing creates meaningful brand connections</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Mentorship can accelerate both skill and confidence</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Parenting lessons translate directly into leadership practices</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Communication builds trust at home and at work</p>
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<li>
<p>Career paths aren’t linear—own your unique journey</p>
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<p><br />About Jenna Bromberg:<br /> Jenna Bromberg is the Chief Marketing Officer at Papa John’s, where she leads brand strategy, creative campaigns, and marketing innovation for one of the world’s most recognized pizza brands. Previously, she held executive marketing roles at Carter’s, Hampton by Hilton, and Pizza Hut, driving award-winning campaigns such as “Hello Optimism.” A devoted mother and advocate for work-life balance, Jenna is known for her values-driven leadership, commitment to mentorship, and belief in the power of emotional storytelling to build lasting brand connections.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Creating Momentum in Your Career</li><li>(00:00:51) - Balancing Family and Career</li><li>(00:01:52) - Lessons from a Marketing Journey</li><li>(00:05:42) - Navigating Change and Growth</li><li>(00:13:14) - The Importance of Support in Motherhood</li><li>(00:20:32) - Campaigns with Heart: Hello Optimism</li><li>(00:25:08) - Leadership Lessons from Parenting</li><li>(00:28:49) - Advice for Aspiring Executives</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this open and empowering conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jenna Bromberg, Chief Marketing Officer at Papa John’s, to talk about building a career you love while staying deeply rooted in family and personal values.
Jenna shares her journey through the fast-paced world of marketing, from early career moves to leading some of the industry’s most recognizable campaigns, including Carter’s “Hello Optimism.” She opens up about the pivotal career decisions that shaped her leadership style, the lessons learned from stepping into big roles, and the influence of mentors and family along the way.
Together, Kevin and Jenna explore what it means to navigate motherhood while holding an executive title, the role of support systems in seasons of transition, and how to give yourself grace when life feels overwhelming. Jenna reflects on the power of emotional storytelling in marketing, the importance of designing your own career path, and how leadership lessons often come from parenting moments.
Whether you’re an aspiring executive, a working parent, or someone seeking a more intentional career, this episode offers both the strategy and heart needed to grow without losing yourself along the way.
In this episode, you’ll learn:


How to create momentum in your career by taking initiative


Why attitude shapes opportunity and growth


The role of support systems during major life and career changes


Communication strategies for balancing work and family life


How to design a career path that’s true to you


Why emotional storytelling connects more deeply with audiences


How parenting can shape and strengthen your leadership skills


The importance of giving yourself grace in challenging seasons


Ways to stay open and adaptable when your career vision changes


How mentorship can transform your professional journey


Top Takeaways:


Career growth is built on initiative and adaptability


Support systems are essential for thriving in motherhood and leadership


Grace is a leadership tool, both for yourself and others


Storytelling in marketing creates meaningful brand connections


Mentorship can accelerate both skill and confidence


Parenting lessons translate directly into leadership practices


Communication builds trust at home and at work


Career paths aren’t linear—own your unique journey


About Jenna Bromberg: Jenna Bromberg is the Chief Marketing Officer at Papa John’s, where she leads brand strategy, creative campaigns, and marketing innovation for one of the world’s most recognized pizza brands. Previously, she held executive marketing roles at Carter’s, Hampton by Hilton, and Pizza Hut, driving award-winning campaigns such as “Hello Optimism.” A devoted mother and advocate for work-life balance, Jenna is known for her values-driven leadership, commitment to mentorship, and belief in the power of emotional storytelling to build lasting brand connections.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jenna Bromberg (Pizza Hut, Carter's and Papa Johns) on Momentum, Motherhood and Creating Legacy Campaigns #005]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this open and empowering conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jenna Bromberg, Chief Marketing Officer at Papa John’s, to talk about building a career you love while staying deeply rooted in family and personal values.</p>
<p>Jenna shares her journey through the fast-paced world of marketing, from early career moves to leading some of the industry’s most recognizable campaigns, including Carter’s “Hello Optimism.” She opens up about the pivotal career decisions that shaped her leadership style, the lessons learned from stepping into big roles, and the influence of mentors and family along the way.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Jenna explore what it means to navigate motherhood while holding an executive title, the role of support systems in seasons of transition, and how to give yourself grace when life feels overwhelming. Jenna reflects on the power of emotional storytelling in marketing, the importance of designing your own career path, and how leadership lessons often come from parenting moments.</p>
<p>Whether you’re an aspiring executive, a working parent, or someone seeking a more intentional career, this episode offers both the strategy and heart needed to grow without losing yourself along the way.</p>
<p><br />In this episode, you’ll learn:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>How to create momentum in your career by taking initiative</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why attitude shapes opportunity and growth</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The role of support systems during major life and career changes</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Communication strategies for balancing work and family life</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to design a career path that’s true to you</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why emotional storytelling connects more deeply with audiences</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How parenting can shape and strengthen your leadership skills</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The importance of giving yourself grace in challenging seasons</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Ways to stay open and adaptable when your career vision changes</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How mentorship can transform your professional journey</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br />Top Takeaways:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Career growth is built on initiative and adaptability</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Support systems are essential for thriving in motherhood and leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Grace is a leadership tool, both for yourself and others</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Storytelling in marketing creates meaningful brand connections</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Mentorship can accelerate both skill and confidence</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Parenting lessons translate directly into leadership practices</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Communication builds trust at home and at work</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Career paths aren’t linear—own your unique journey</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br />About Jenna Bromberg:<br /> Jenna Bromberg is the Chief Marketing Officer at Papa John’s, where she leads brand strategy, creative campaigns, and marketing innovation for one of the world’s most recognized pizza brands. Previously, she held executive marketing roles at Carter’s, Hampton by Hilton, and Pizza Hut, driving award-winning campaigns such as “Hello Optimism.” A devoted mother and advocate for work-life balance, Jenna is known for her values-driven leadership, commitment to mentorship, and belief in the power of emotional storytelling to build lasting brand connections.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this open and empowering conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jenna Bromberg, Chief Marketing Officer at Papa John’s, to talk about building a career you love while staying deeply rooted in family and personal values.
Jenna shares her journey through the fast-paced world of marketing, from early career moves to leading some of the industry’s most recognizable campaigns, including Carter’s “Hello Optimism.” She opens up about the pivotal career decisions that shaped her leadership style, the lessons learned from stepping into big roles, and the influence of mentors and family along the way.
Together, Kevin and Jenna explore what it means to navigate motherhood while holding an executive title, the role of support systems in seasons of transition, and how to give yourself grace when life feels overwhelming. Jenna reflects on the power of emotional storytelling in marketing, the importance of designing your own career path, and how leadership lessons often come from parenting moments.
Whether you’re an aspiring executive, a working parent, or someone seeking a more intentional career, this episode offers both the strategy and heart needed to grow without losing yourself along the way.
In this episode, you’ll learn:


How to create momentum in your career by taking initiative


Why attitude shapes opportunity and growth


The role of support systems during major life and career changes


Communication strategies for balancing work and family life


How to design a career path that’s true to you


Why emotional storytelling connects more deeply with audiences


How parenting can shape and strengthen your leadership skills


The importance of giving yourself grace in challenging seasons


Ways to stay open and adaptable when your career vision changes


How mentorship can transform your professional journey


Top Takeaways:


Career growth is built on initiative and adaptability


Support systems are essential for thriving in motherhood and leadership


Grace is a leadership tool, both for yourself and others


Storytelling in marketing creates meaningful brand connections


Mentorship can accelerate both skill and confidence


Parenting lessons translate directly into leadership practices


Communication builds trust at home and at work


Career paths aren’t linear—own your unique journey


About Jenna Bromberg: Jenna Bromberg is the Chief Marketing Officer at Papa John’s, where she leads brand strategy, creative campaigns, and marketing innovation for one of the world’s most recognized pizza brands. Previously, she held executive marketing roles at Carter’s, Hampton by Hilton, and Pizza Hut, driving award-winning campaigns such as “Hello Optimism.” A devoted mother and advocate for work-life balance, Jenna is known for her values-driven leadership, commitment to mentorship, and belief in the power of emotional storytelling to build lasting brand connections.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Jen Prince (LA Rams, Google, Twitter) on Leading with Heart and Inspiring Others #004]]>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 09:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">In this motivating and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jennifer (Jen) Prince, Chief Commercial Officer of the Los Angeles Rams and former leader at Twitter, Google, and YouTube, to explore how to lead boldly at work while staying grounded at home.</p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r"> </p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Jen shares the career lesson she wishes she’d learned earlier: take smart risks and do the work you truly love, even if it means switching roles, changing companies, or choosing “less to do more.” She opens up about a pivotal moment as a young mom that reshaped her path from Google to Twitter so she could feel her impact, and how that conviction now fuels her work guiding the Rams’ commercial engine (including nearly $150M in partner revenue across the 2023-24 seasons) and building inclusive teams with women in key leadership roles.</p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r"> </p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Together, Kevin and Jen dive into blending boardroom and bedtime: bringing kids to training camp and conferences, living near extended family in Los Angeles, and using simple rituals (no phones at dinner, “Team Prince” values, a 5-word family values exercise) to keep everyone aligned. Jen also talks candidly about thriving as a woman in male-dominated industries, creating a culture where values live on every desk, and why happiness, kindness, and health are the bedrock of the legacy she hopes her three daughters will carry forward.</p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r"> </p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:</p>
<ul class="ZbLneLRe2x_OBOYZMX3M">
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Why “less is more” and intentional risk-taking can accelerate your career</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">How to design career moves around feeling your impact</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Practical ways to blend work and family (yes, bring the kids to work)</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">The power of a supportive partner and a local village</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Family rituals that reinforce values (no phones at dinner, inclusion, shared “value words”)</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Why embracing change and reorgs can unlock opportunity</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
</li></ul>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Embracing Risk and Career Growth</li><li>(00:00:57) - The Importance of Family Support</li><li>(00:02:55) - Pivotal Career Moments</li><li>(00:07:44) - Blending Work and Family Life</li><li>(00:12:01) - Teaching Values Through Experience</li><li>(00:16:49) - Parenting and Business: Stages of Growth</li><li>(00:18:56) - Values in Work and Family Life</li><li>(00:23:08) - Rituals and Inclusion in Family Dynamics</li><li>(00:27:40) - Navigating a Male-Dominated Industry</li><li>(00:33:01) - Advice for Aspiring Female Executives</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this motivating and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jennifer (Jen) Prince, Chief Commercial Officer of the Los Angeles Rams and former leader at Twitter, Google, and YouTube, to explore how to lead boldly at work while staying grounded at home.
 
Jen shares the career lesson she wishes she’d learned earlier: take smart risks and do the work you truly love, even if it means switching roles, changing companies, or choosing “less to do more.” She opens up about a pivotal moment as a young mom that reshaped her path from Google to Twitter so she could feel her impact, and how that conviction now fuels her work guiding the Rams’ commercial engine (including nearly $150M in partner revenue across the 2023-24 seasons) and building inclusive teams with women in key leadership roles.
 
Together, Kevin and Jen dive into blending boardroom and bedtime: bringing kids to training camp and conferences, living near extended family in Los Angeles, and using simple rituals (no phones at dinner, “Team Prince” values, a 5-word family values exercise) to keep everyone aligned. Jen also talks candidly about thriving as a woman in male-dominated industries, creating a culture where values live on every desk, and why happiness, kindness, and health are the bedrock of the legacy she hopes her three daughters will carry forward.
 
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:


Why “less is more” and intentional risk-taking can accelerate your career


How to design career moves around feeling your impact


Practical ways to blend work and family (yes, bring the kids to work)


The power of a supportive partner and a local village


Family rituals that reinforce values (no phones at dinner, inclusion, shared “value words”)


Why embracing change and reorgs can unlock opportunity


]]>
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                                <itunes:title>
                    <![CDATA[Jen Prince (LA Rams, Google, Twitter) on Leading with Heart and Inspiring Others #004]]>
                </itunes:title>
                                    <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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                <content:encoded>
                    <![CDATA[<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">In this motivating and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jennifer (Jen) Prince, Chief Commercial Officer of the Los Angeles Rams and former leader at Twitter, Google, and YouTube, to explore how to lead boldly at work while staying grounded at home.</p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r"> </p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Jen shares the career lesson she wishes she’d learned earlier: take smart risks and do the work you truly love, even if it means switching roles, changing companies, or choosing “less to do more.” She opens up about a pivotal moment as a young mom that reshaped her path from Google to Twitter so she could feel her impact, and how that conviction now fuels her work guiding the Rams’ commercial engine (including nearly $150M in partner revenue across the 2023-24 seasons) and building inclusive teams with women in key leadership roles.</p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r"> </p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Together, Kevin and Jen dive into blending boardroom and bedtime: bringing kids to training camp and conferences, living near extended family in Los Angeles, and using simple rituals (no phones at dinner, “Team Prince” values, a 5-word family values exercise) to keep everyone aligned. Jen also talks candidly about thriving as a woman in male-dominated industries, creating a culture where values live on every desk, and why happiness, kindness, and health are the bedrock of the legacy she hopes her three daughters will carry forward.</p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r"> </p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:</p>
<ul class="ZbLneLRe2x_OBOYZMX3M">
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Why “less is more” and intentional risk-taking can accelerate your career</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">How to design career moves around feeling your impact</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Practical ways to blend work and family (yes, bring the kids to work)</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">The power of a supportive partner and a local village</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Family rituals that reinforce values (no phones at dinner, inclusion, shared “value words”)</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Why embracing change and reorgs can unlock opportunity</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">How women can lead and lift others in male-dominated fields</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Ways to stay in the game through early parenthood (consulting, boards, part-time)</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">When to schedule structure and leave room for “surprise and delight”</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">What to model for kids about ambition, kindness, and wholeness</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r"> </p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">TOP TAKEAWAYS:</p>
<ul class="ZbLneLRe2x_OBOYZMX3M">
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">You can redesign your role to fit your season of life, even if it means a step back to do more of what matters</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Anchor big career pivots to your values and impact</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Change is fuel, not a threat</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">A strong home team makes high performance sustainable</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Invite your kids into your world; they learn by watching you work</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Culture scales when values are visible and practiced daily</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Don’t wait for permission to protect your well-being</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Keep a foot in the workforce during parenting seasons</p>
</li>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued rjdQaIDkSgcGmxkdI2vU">
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Inclusion starts with everyday kindness</p>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">The real goal: feel whole at work and at home</li>
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<p> </p>
<p>ABOUT JENNIFER PRINCE:</p>
<p class="e-91000-text encore-text-body-medium encore-internal-color-text-subdued umouqjSkMUbvF4I_Xz6r">Jennifer Prince is the Chief Commercial Officer of the Los Angeles Rams, where she leads partnerships, revenue, and fan experiences across one of sports’ most innovative franchises. Previously, she held senior roles at Twitter, Google, and YouTube. A champion for diversity and inclusion, Jen has helped build a front office with more than 50% women and is a proud mom of three daughters, known for values-driven leadership and a “football is family” approach to life and work.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this motivating and energizing conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Jennifer (Jen) Prince, Chief Commercial Officer of the Los Angeles Rams and former leader at Twitter, Google, and YouTube, to explore how to lead boldly at work while staying grounded at home.
 
Jen shares the career lesson she wishes she’d learned earlier: take smart risks and do the work you truly love, even if it means switching roles, changing companies, or choosing “less to do more.” She opens up about a pivotal moment as a young mom that reshaped her path from Google to Twitter so she could feel her impact, and how that conviction now fuels her work guiding the Rams’ commercial engine (including nearly $150M in partner revenue across the 2023-24 seasons) and building inclusive teams with women in key leadership roles.
 
Together, Kevin and Jen dive into blending boardroom and bedtime: bringing kids to training camp and conferences, living near extended family in Los Angeles, and using simple rituals (no phones at dinner, “Team Prince” values, a 5-word family values exercise) to keep everyone aligned. Jen also talks candidly about thriving as a woman in male-dominated industries, creating a culture where values live on every desk, and why happiness, kindness, and health are the bedrock of the legacy she hopes her three daughters will carry forward.
 
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:


Why “less is more” and intentional risk-taking can accelerate your career


How to design career moves around feeling your impact


Practical ways to blend work and family (yes, bring the kids to work)


The power of a supportive partner and a local village


Family rituals that reinforce values (no phones at dinner, inclusion, shared “value words”)


Why embracing change and reorgs can unlock opportunity


]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Navigating Career Transitions, Balancing Family Life and the Importance of Faith with Wade Allen (Costa Vida, Chili's) #003]]>
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                <pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2025 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Wade Allen, President of Costa Vida and former Chief Digital Officer at Brinker International, to explore what it means to lead with discipline, humility, and heart in both work and family life.</p>
<p>Wade shares his journey from tech and marketing leader to the top seat of a fast-growing restaurant brand, opening up about the career transitions, daily routines, and spiritual grounding that have shaped his leadership. He reflects on fatherhood, the challenge of being present while growing in his career, and the lessons he learned from moving his family across the country.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Wade unpack what it looks like to build a legacy that goes beyond job titles. Wade talks candidly about the impact of handing out bonus checks after a record-breaking year, the power of showing up for his family, and how faith and early morning routines help him manage stress in a high-pressure role.</p>
<p>Whether you're navigating a big career leap, trying to stay grounded at home, or looking for a more meaningful way to lead, this episode offers practical wisdom and real-life insight from someone who has walked the path.</p>
<p><strong>In this episode, you’ll learn:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Why humility is the foundation of strong leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to balance faith, family, and a demanding career</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The value of morning rituals for clarity and focus</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What it takes to shift from functional leader to president</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How Wade rebuilt connection with his kids after being on the road</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The emotional power of recognition and genuine connection</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to lead with intention in every season of life</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why being present is more important than being perfect</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to use tough decisions as growth opportunities for your kids</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What legacy really means and how to shape it through action</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top Takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>You can redefine your identity at any stage of your career</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Legacy is about people, not possessions</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Spiritual grounding brings clarity and compassion</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Parenting well requires presence, not perfection</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Handing out checks is more powerful than receiving them</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Career growth and family growth don't have to compete</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Culture is built through consistent, personal connection</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Reconnecting with your kids is always possible</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Routines are a powerful antidote to chaos</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Leaders who serve leave a lasting impact</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>About Wade Allen:</strong><br /> Wade Allen is the President of Costa Vida, where he is leading the brand through one of the most successful chapters in its history. Before joining Costa Vida, he held executive leadership roles across marketing, technology, and digital at Brinker International, the parent company of Chili’s and Maggiano’s. He is a devoted husband and father of four, known for his values-driven leadership, commitment to faith and fitness, and passion for creating meaningful connections with his team and his family.</p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Navigating Career Lessons and Family Balance</li><li>(00:00:12) - The Importance of Personal Time and Boundaries</li><li>(00:01:16) - Life Beyond Work: Family and Personal Interests</li><li>(00:07:28) - Parenting Through Career Transitions</li><li>(00:10:43) - Career Evolution: From Marketing to Leadership</li><li>(00:12:42) - Navigating Career Transitions</li><li>(00:15:57) - Managing Leadership Challenges</li><li>(00:18:53) - The Role of Routine in Leadership</li><li>(00:23:12) - Faith and Spirituality in Leadership</li><li>(00:28:38) - The Importance of Meaningful Relationships</li><li>(00:34:32) - Legacy and Life Lessons</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Wade Allen, President of Costa Vida and former Chief Digital Officer at Brinker International, to explore what it means to lead with discipline, humility, and heart in both work and family life.
Wade shares his journey from tech and marketing leader to the top seat of a fast-growing restaurant brand, opening up about the career transitions, daily routines, and spiritual grounding that have shaped his leadership. He reflects on fatherhood, the challenge of being present while growing in his career, and the lessons he learned from moving his family across the country.
Together, Kevin and Wade unpack what it looks like to build a legacy that goes beyond job titles. Wade talks candidly about the impact of handing out bonus checks after a record-breaking year, the power of showing up for his family, and how faith and early morning routines help him manage stress in a high-pressure role.
Whether you're navigating a big career leap, trying to stay grounded at home, or looking for a more meaningful way to lead, this episode offers practical wisdom and real-life insight from someone who has walked the path.
In this episode, you’ll learn:


Why humility is the foundation of strong leadership


How to balance faith, family, and a demanding career


The value of morning rituals for clarity and focus


What it takes to shift from functional leader to president


How Wade rebuilt connection with his kids after being on the road


The emotional power of recognition and genuine connection


How to lead with intention in every season of life


Why being present is more important than being perfect


How to use tough decisions as growth opportunities for your kids


What legacy really means and how to shape it through action


Top Takeaways:


You can redefine your identity at any stage of your career


Legacy is about people, not possessions


Spiritual grounding brings clarity and compassion


Parenting well requires presence, not perfection


Handing out checks is more powerful than receiving them


Career growth and family growth don't have to compete


Culture is built through consistent, personal connection


Reconnecting with your kids is always possible


Routines are a powerful antidote to chaos


Leaders who serve leave a lasting impact


 
About Wade Allen: Wade Allen is the President of Costa Vida, where he is leading the brand through one of the most successful chapters in its history. Before joining Costa Vida, he held executive leadership roles across marketing, technology, and digital at Brinker International, the parent company of Chili’s and Maggiano’s. He is a devoted husband and father of four, known for his values-driven leadership, commitment to faith and fitness, and passion for creating meaningful connections with his team and his family.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Navigating Career Transitions, Balancing Family Life and the Importance of Faith with Wade Allen (Costa Vida, Chili's) #003]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Wade Allen, President of Costa Vida and former Chief Digital Officer at Brinker International, to explore what it means to lead with discipline, humility, and heart in both work and family life.</p>
<p>Wade shares his journey from tech and marketing leader to the top seat of a fast-growing restaurant brand, opening up about the career transitions, daily routines, and spiritual grounding that have shaped his leadership. He reflects on fatherhood, the challenge of being present while growing in his career, and the lessons he learned from moving his family across the country.</p>
<p>Together, Kevin and Wade unpack what it looks like to build a legacy that goes beyond job titles. Wade talks candidly about the impact of handing out bonus checks after a record-breaking year, the power of showing up for his family, and how faith and early morning routines help him manage stress in a high-pressure role.</p>
<p>Whether you're navigating a big career leap, trying to stay grounded at home, or looking for a more meaningful way to lead, this episode offers practical wisdom and real-life insight from someone who has walked the path.</p>
<p><strong>In this episode, you’ll learn:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Why humility is the foundation of strong leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to balance faith, family, and a demanding career</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The value of morning rituals for clarity and focus</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What it takes to shift from functional leader to president</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How Wade rebuilt connection with his kids after being on the road</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The emotional power of recognition and genuine connection</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to lead with intention in every season of life</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Why being present is more important than being perfect</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How to use tough decisions as growth opportunities for your kids</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What legacy really means and how to shape it through action</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top Takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>You can redefine your identity at any stage of your career</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Legacy is about people, not possessions</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Spiritual grounding brings clarity and compassion</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Parenting well requires presence, not perfection</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Handing out checks is more powerful than receiving them</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Career growth and family growth don't have to compete</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Culture is built through consistent, personal connection</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Reconnecting with your kids is always possible</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Routines are a powerful antidote to chaos</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Leaders who serve leave a lasting impact</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>About Wade Allen:</strong><br /> Wade Allen is the President of Costa Vida, where he is leading the brand through one of the most successful chapters in its history. Before joining Costa Vida, he held executive leadership roles across marketing, technology, and digital at Brinker International, the parent company of Chili’s and Maggiano’s. He is a devoted husband and father of four, known for his values-driven leadership, commitment to faith and fitness, and passion for creating meaningful connections with his team and his family.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Wade Allen, President of Costa Vida and former Chief Digital Officer at Brinker International, to explore what it means to lead with discipline, humility, and heart in both work and family life.
Wade shares his journey from tech and marketing leader to the top seat of a fast-growing restaurant brand, opening up about the career transitions, daily routines, and spiritual grounding that have shaped his leadership. He reflects on fatherhood, the challenge of being present while growing in his career, and the lessons he learned from moving his family across the country.
Together, Kevin and Wade unpack what it looks like to build a legacy that goes beyond job titles. Wade talks candidly about the impact of handing out bonus checks after a record-breaking year, the power of showing up for his family, and how faith and early morning routines help him manage stress in a high-pressure role.
Whether you're navigating a big career leap, trying to stay grounded at home, or looking for a more meaningful way to lead, this episode offers practical wisdom and real-life insight from someone who has walked the path.
In this episode, you’ll learn:


Why humility is the foundation of strong leadership


How to balance faith, family, and a demanding career


The value of morning rituals for clarity and focus


What it takes to shift from functional leader to president


How Wade rebuilt connection with his kids after being on the road


The emotional power of recognition and genuine connection


How to lead with intention in every season of life


Why being present is more important than being perfect


How to use tough decisions as growth opportunities for your kids


What legacy really means and how to shape it through action


Top Takeaways:


You can redefine your identity at any stage of your career


Legacy is about people, not possessions


Spiritual grounding brings clarity and compassion


Parenting well requires presence, not perfection


Handing out checks is more powerful than receiving them


Career growth and family growth don't have to compete


Culture is built through consistent, personal connection


Reconnecting with your kids is always possible


Routines are a powerful antidote to chaos


Leaders who serve leave a lasting impact


 
About Wade Allen: Wade Allen is the President of Costa Vida, where he is leading the brand through one of the most successful chapters in its history. Before joining Costa Vida, he held executive leadership roles across marketing, technology, and digital at Brinker International, the parent company of Chili’s and Maggiano’s. He is a devoted husband and father of four, known for his values-driven leadership, commitment to faith and fitness, and passion for creating meaningful connections with his team and his family.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Authenticity, Legacy & Leadership: A Conversation with Derek Gaskins (BP, ampm, Yesway, ) #002]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2025 12:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Kevin Rice</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p><span style="font-weight:400;">In this powerful and heart-centered conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Derek Gaskins, Head of Guest Experience at BP and former CMO of Yesway, to explore what it really means to lead with authenticity, purpose, and intention across every season of life.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Derek opens up about the early career lessons that shaped him, including his rejection of code-switching and the long journey toward embracing his full, authentic self at work and at home. He shares how fatherhood transformed his leadership style and how the values instilled by his parents in Southeast DC still guide his decisions today.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Together, Kevin and Derek unpack the trade-offs of chasing big career goals while staying present for your family. Derek reflects on the power of saying no, what it meant to build a team and legacy at Yesway, and the emotional decision to step away for a new opportunity at BP. He also shares lessons from parenting adult children, the mindset that fueled his cross-country moves, and how his upbringing shaped his commitment to mentorship and inclusion.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Whether you're navigating a major career decision, leading a team, or trying to be more intentional at home, Derek's story is filled with grounded wisdom, lived experience, and practical insights you won't forget.</span></p>
<p><strong>In this episode, you’ll learn:</strong><strong><br /></strong><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Why bringing your full self to work is a leadership advantage</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • How to balance seasons of hustle with seasons of presence</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • The difference between keeping it real and being truly authentic</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • How to create intentional boundaries to protect your time with family</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • The power of strategic parenting and why weekends need a plan</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • What legacy means to Derek and how he hopes his kids remember him</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • How inclusion is about background and experience, not just checkboxes</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Why embracing discomfort and uncertainty creates growth</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • How to build a family home your kids want to return to</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Why feedback is a gift, especially when it comes from your kids</span></p>
<p><strong>Top Takeaways:</strong><strong><br /></strong><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Authentic leadership begins with self-awareness and evolves over time</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Strategic parenting requires the same intention as leading a team</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Family time only becomes meaningful when it’s planned and protected</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Career mobility often requires physical mobility</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Fatherhood sharpens empathy, patience, and self-reflection</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Legacy lives in how you show up, not just what you achieve</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Inclusion means creating space for people to be themselves</span><span></span></p>
<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - CEO and ABCs: Real Stories from Execs</li><li>(00:00:12) - CEO and ABCs</li><li>(00:01:36) - Kevin on Life After Work</li><li>(00:05:08) - Ex-Yes Way CMO on Leaving the Company</li><li>(00:09:54) - The Rise of Yes Way</li><li>(00:12:38) - Benefits of lifting others up</li><li>(00:17:50) - How Fatherhood Has Changed How You Present Yourself</li><li>(00:20:16) - How To Stuck Connect With Your Kids</li><li>(00:23:30) - Kevin Hart on Having the Courage to Say No</li><li>(00:30:13) - "I Should've Been There for My Daughter's Wedding"</li><li>(00:32:11) - Bob Pinchin on His Legacy</li><li>(00:35:15) - CEO and ABCs</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this powerful and heart-centered conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Derek Gaskins, Head of Guest Experience at BP and former CMO of Yesway, to explore what it really means to lead with authenticity, purpose, and intention across every season of life.
Derek opens up about the early career lessons that shaped him, including his rejection of code-switching and the long journey toward embracing his full, authentic self at work and at home. He shares how fatherhood transformed his leadership style and how the values instilled by his parents in Southeast DC still guide his decisions today.
Together, Kevin and Derek unpack the trade-offs of chasing big career goals while staying present for your family. Derek reflects on the power of saying no, what it meant to build a team and legacy at Yesway, and the emotional decision to step away for a new opportunity at BP. He also shares lessons from parenting adult children, the mindset that fueled his cross-country moves, and how his upbringing shaped his commitment to mentorship and inclusion.
Whether you're navigating a major career decision, leading a team, or trying to be more intentional at home, Derek's story is filled with grounded wisdom, lived experience, and practical insights you won't forget.
In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why bringing your full self to work is a leadership advantage • How to balance seasons of hustle with seasons of presence • The difference between keeping it real and being truly authentic • How to create intentional boundaries to protect your time with family • The power of strategic parenting and why weekends need a plan • What legacy means to Derek and how he hopes his kids remember him • How inclusion is about background and experience, not just checkboxes • Why embracing discomfort and uncertainty creates growth • How to build a family home your kids want to return to • Why feedback is a gift, especially when it comes from your kids
Top Takeaways: • Authentic leadership begins with self-awareness and evolves over time • Strategic parenting requires the same intention as leading a team • Family time only becomes meaningful when it’s planned and protected • Career mobility often requires physical mobility • Fatherhood sharpens empathy, patience, and self-reflection • Legacy lives in how you show up, not just what you achieve • Inclusion means creating space for people to be themselves]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Authenticity, Legacy & Leadership: A Conversation with Derek Gaskins (BP, ampm, Yesway, ) #002]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><span style="font-weight:400;">In this powerful and heart-centered conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Derek Gaskins, Head of Guest Experience at BP and former CMO of Yesway, to explore what it really means to lead with authenticity, purpose, and intention across every season of life.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Derek opens up about the early career lessons that shaped him, including his rejection of code-switching and the long journey toward embracing his full, authentic self at work and at home. He shares how fatherhood transformed his leadership style and how the values instilled by his parents in Southeast DC still guide his decisions today.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Together, Kevin and Derek unpack the trade-offs of chasing big career goals while staying present for your family. Derek reflects on the power of saying no, what it meant to build a team and legacy at Yesway, and the emotional decision to step away for a new opportunity at BP. He also shares lessons from parenting adult children, the mindset that fueled his cross-country moves, and how his upbringing shaped his commitment to mentorship and inclusion.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Whether you're navigating a major career decision, leading a team, or trying to be more intentional at home, Derek's story is filled with grounded wisdom, lived experience, and practical insights you won't forget.</span></p>
<p><strong>In this episode, you’ll learn:</strong><strong><br /></strong><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Why bringing your full self to work is a leadership advantage</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • How to balance seasons of hustle with seasons of presence</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • The difference between keeping it real and being truly authentic</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • How to create intentional boundaries to protect your time with family</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • The power of strategic parenting and why weekends need a plan</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • What legacy means to Derek and how he hopes his kids remember him</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • How inclusion is about background and experience, not just checkboxes</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Why embracing discomfort and uncertainty creates growth</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • How to build a family home your kids want to return to</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Why feedback is a gift, especially when it comes from your kids</span></p>
<p><strong>Top Takeaways:</strong><strong><br /></strong><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Authentic leadership begins with self-awareness and evolves over time</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Strategic parenting requires the same intention as leading a team</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Family time only becomes meaningful when it’s planned and protected</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Career mobility often requires physical mobility</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Fatherhood sharpens empathy, patience, and self-reflection</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Legacy lives in how you show up, not just what you achieve</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Inclusion means creating space for people to be themselves</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Saying no to the wrong things allows you to say yes to what matters</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • Feedback, even when uncomfortable, helps leaders grow</span><span style="font-weight:400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight:400;"> • A strong home environment can be a lifelong foundation for your kids</span></p>
<p><strong>About Derek Gaskins:</strong><strong><br /></strong><span style="font-weight:400;">Derek Gaskins is a marketing executive and brand strategist who currently serves as Head of Guest Experience at BP, overseeing iconic retail brands like ampm, Thorntons, and TravelCenters of America. Before that, he was Chief Marketing Officer at Yesway, where he helped lead one of the fastest-growing convenience retailers in the country. Throughout his career, Derek has championed cultural relevance, innovation, and inclusion. He is also a proud husband and father, deeply committed to living a life of purpose, presence, and impact.</span></p>
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                    <![CDATA[In this powerful and heart-centered conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Derek Gaskins, Head of Guest Experience at BP and former CMO of Yesway, to explore what it really means to lead with authenticity, purpose, and intention across every season of life.
Derek opens up about the early career lessons that shaped him, including his rejection of code-switching and the long journey toward embracing his full, authentic self at work and at home. He shares how fatherhood transformed his leadership style and how the values instilled by his parents in Southeast DC still guide his decisions today.
Together, Kevin and Derek unpack the trade-offs of chasing big career goals while staying present for your family. Derek reflects on the power of saying no, what it meant to build a team and legacy at Yesway, and the emotional decision to step away for a new opportunity at BP. He also shares lessons from parenting adult children, the mindset that fueled his cross-country moves, and how his upbringing shaped his commitment to mentorship and inclusion.
Whether you're navigating a major career decision, leading a team, or trying to be more intentional at home, Derek's story is filled with grounded wisdom, lived experience, and practical insights you won't forget.
In this episode, you’ll learn: • Why bringing your full self to work is a leadership advantage • How to balance seasons of hustle with seasons of presence • The difference between keeping it real and being truly authentic • How to create intentional boundaries to protect your time with family • The power of strategic parenting and why weekends need a plan • What legacy means to Derek and how he hopes his kids remember him • How inclusion is about background and experience, not just checkboxes • Why embracing discomfort and uncertainty creates growth • How to build a family home your kids want to return to • Why feedback is a gift, especially when it comes from your kids
Top Takeaways: • Authentic leadership begins with self-awareness and evolves over time • Strategic parenting requires the same intention as leading a team • Family time only becomes meaningful when it’s planned and protected • Career mobility often requires physical mobility • Fatherhood sharpens empathy, patience, and self-reflection • Legacy lives in how you show up, not just what you achieve • Inclusion means creating space for people to be themselves]]>
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                    <![CDATA[From the C-Suite to Coaching Little League. Leading with Heart in the Office, Home and on the Field w/ Jeff Jenkins (Carter's, Whole Foods, Taco Bell) #001]]>
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                <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2025 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this conversation, Jeff Jenkins shares his journey through career and parenting, discussing the challenges of balancing a high-performance career with family life. He reflects on the lessons learned from imposter syndrome, the importance of presence in parenting, and the value of coaching kids' sports. Jeff emphasizes the need for personal growth, adaptability in career transitions, and the significance of cultural relevance in marketing. He offers valuable insights for future leaders on living with purpose and the importance of making one's own path in both career and parenting.</p>
<p class="p1"><strong>Takeaways</strong></p>
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<li class="li1">Imposter syndrome is common, but we are often better than we think.</li>
<li class="li1">Balancing family and work requires setting boundaries and guardrails.</li>
<li class="li1">Quality time with family is more important than quantity.</li>
<li class="li1">Coaching kids sports can enhance leadership skills.</li>
<li class="li1">Career transitions can be challenging but offer growth opportunities.</li>
<li class="li1">Cultural relevance is crucial in modern marketing strategies.</li>
<li class="li1">Finding your own lane helps avoid the trap of comparison.</li>
<li class="li1">Presence in parenting is key to building strong relationships.</li>
<li class="li1">It's important to give yourself grace and space when things go wrong.</li>
<li class="li1">Traveling and exposing kids to different cultures builds adaptability.</li>
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<h3>Chapters</h3>
<ul><li>(00:00:00) - Jeff Jenkins Introduction</li><li>(00:01:36) - Life Beyond Work</li><li>(00:04:10) - Transformative Moments in Parenting</li><li>(00:06:11) - Navigating Career Transitions</li><li>(00:10:35) - The Cost of Career Moves and Family Stability</li><li>(00:14:23) - Navigating Family and Education Post-Traveling</li><li>(00:17:22) - Balancing Work and Family Life</li><li>(00:20:16) - The Impact of COVID on Family</li><li>(00:22:22) - Redefining Work Life Balance</li><li>(00:26:44) - Risk-Taking in Marketing and Parenting</li><li>(00:30:00) - Finding your own Lane in Leadership and Parenting</li></ul>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this conversation, Jeff Jenkins shares his journey through career and parenting, discussing the challenges of balancing a high-performance career with family life. He reflects on the lessons learned from imposter syndrome, the importance of presence in parenting, and the value of coaching kids' sports. Jeff emphasizes the need for personal growth, adaptability in career transitions, and the significance of cultural relevance in marketing. He offers valuable insights for future leaders on living with purpose and the importance of making one's own path in both career and parenting.
Takeaways

Imposter syndrome is common, but we are often better than we think.
Balancing family and work requires setting boundaries and guardrails.
Quality time with family is more important than quantity.
Coaching kids sports can enhance leadership skills.
Career transitions can be challenging but offer growth opportunities.
Cultural relevance is crucial in modern marketing strategies.
Finding your own lane helps avoid the trap of comparison.
Presence in parenting is key to building strong relationships.
It's important to give yourself grace and space when things go wrong.
Traveling and exposing kids to different cultures builds adaptability.
]]>
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                    <![CDATA[From the C-Suite to Coaching Little League. Leading with Heart in the Office, Home and on the Field w/ Jeff Jenkins (Carter's, Whole Foods, Taco Bell) #001]]>
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<p class="p1"><strong>Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul class="ul1">
<li class="li1">Imposter syndrome is common, but we are often better than we think.</li>
<li class="li1">Balancing family and work requires setting boundaries and guardrails.</li>
<li class="li1">Quality time with family is more important than quantity.</li>
<li class="li1">Coaching kids sports can enhance leadership skills.</li>
<li class="li1">Career transitions can be challenging but offer growth opportunities.</li>
<li class="li1">Cultural relevance is crucial in modern marketing strategies.</li>
<li class="li1">Finding your own lane helps avoid the trap of comparison.</li>
<li class="li1">Presence in parenting is key to building strong relationships.</li>
<li class="li1">It's important to give yourself grace and space when things go wrong.</li>
<li class="li1">Traveling and exposing kids to different cultures builds adaptability.</li>
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                    <![CDATA[In this conversation, Jeff Jenkins shares his journey through career and parenting, discussing the challenges of balancing a high-performance career with family life. He reflects on the lessons learned from imposter syndrome, the importance of presence in parenting, and the value of coaching kids' sports. Jeff emphasizes the need for personal growth, adaptability in career transitions, and the significance of cultural relevance in marketing. He offers valuable insights for future leaders on living with purpose and the importance of making one's own path in both career and parenting.
Takeaways

Imposter syndrome is common, but we are often better than we think.
Balancing family and work requires setting boundaries and guardrails.
Quality time with family is more important than quantity.
Coaching kids sports can enhance leadership skills.
Career transitions can be challenging but offer growth opportunities.
Cultural relevance is crucial in modern marketing strategies.
Finding your own lane helps avoid the trap of comparison.
Presence in parenting is key to building strong relationships.
It's important to give yourself grace and space when things go wrong.
Traveling and exposing kids to different cultures builds adaptability.
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                    <![CDATA[Kevin Rice]]>
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