Zest for Therapy: Optimizing your growth as a new therapist Castos https://zestfortherapy.castos.com A podcast by therapists, for therapists. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. Find us on Substack at Zest for Therapy. Link: https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?utm_campaign=profile&utm_medium=profile-page Tue, 23 Dec 2025 15:00:00 +0000 en © 2025 https://episodes.castos.com/63df13cd8402b0-26804601/images/podcast/covers/c1a-z3694-9jqg4g0ki2k0-wmzuwq.jpg Zest for Therapy: Optimizing your growth as a new therapist https://zestfortherapy.castos.com A podcast by therapists, for therapists. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. Find us on Substack at Zest for Therapy. Link: https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?utm_campaign=profile&utm_medium=profile-page Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster episodic A podcast by therapists, for therapists. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. Find us on Substack at Zest for Therapy. Link: https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?utm_campaign=profile&utm_medium=profile-page Courtney Doman courtney@zestcounseling.com false https://feeds.castos.com/px35k yes <![CDATA[Ep. 13: Reflections on Season 1]]> Tue, 23 Dec 2025 15:00:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2302429 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-13-reflections-on-season-1 Join us for our final episode of the season where we reflect on the podcast and what we wish we knew when we first started out as therapists. Feel free to find us on Substack at the link below.

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Therapy Podcast: Last Episode
  • (00:00:57) - The Burnout Podcast: What Topic or Episode Resonated With You
  • (00:03:51) - Favorite Episode of the Podcast
  • (00:05:22) - Favorite Guest Episodes
  • (00:08:19) - Being a New Therapist: A Strength and a Weakness?
  • (00:13:11) - What's a strength for new therapists?
  • (00:14:53) - Off-campus learning: pros and cons
  • (00:19:46) - How to Get to 30 Hours a Week in Therapy
  • (00:23:32) - What Do You Wish You Knew Before Starting a Therapy Session?
  • (00:27:19) - Less Alone Than I Think I Am
  • (00:30:59) - Treatment Notes: Finding a system that works for you
  • (00:32:14) - What Is Advice For New Therapists?
  • (00:36:40) - How to Start a New Therapy Career
  • (00:42:57) - Zest for Therapy: The First Session
]]> full 13 1 false Join us for our final episode of the season where we reflect on the podcast and what we wish we knew when we first started out as therapists. Feel free to find us on Substack at the link below.

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy

]]> 00:43:27 <![CDATA[Ep. 12 Diagnosing 101]]> Fri, 05 Dec 2025 16:00:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2262846 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-12-diagnosing-101 Join us for an episode with Grace Zhu AMFT where we talk about diagnosing, different approaches to it, common pitfalls, and some advice. If you have thoughts on diagnosing, ideas for episodes, or any additional questions, please find us on Substack at the link below.

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Vocations in the Field: Therapy Podcast
  • (00:00:42) - Diagnosing, Psychoanalytic 101
  • (00:01:39) - How to Diagnose OCD in the Real World
  • (00:04:30) - Do You Need an Assessment to Diagnose Someone With OCD?
  • (00:06:26) - How Do You Diagnose Someone's Mental Illness?
  • (00:10:29) - How to Tell People Their DSM-5 diagnosis
  • (00:11:59) - Diabetes and insurance: The necessary evil of diagnosis
  • (00:15:33) - What to Ask Your Doctor About Headaches?
  • (00:17:11) - What would you say are some of, like, I don't
  • (00:18:48) - How to Talk About Imposter Syndrome with a Therapist
  • (00:23:05) - How to Talk About Depression With Someone With Bipolar 1
  • (00:24:31) - Anxiety and mood disorders: How many sessions should a patient need
  • (00:26:51) - New Therapists: Advice For Starting Out
]]> false Join us for an episode with Grace Zhu AMFT where we talk about diagnosing, different approaches to it, common pitfalls, and some advice. If you have thoughts on diagnosing, ideas for episodes, or any additional questions, please find us on Substack at the link below.

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy

]]> 00:29:00 <![CDATA[Ep. 11 Intro to IFS with Rich Reynolds LMFT Part 2]]> Fri, 21 Nov 2025 15:00:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2209174 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-11-intro-to-ifs-with-rich-reynolds-lmft-part-2 Join us for part two of our interview on Internal Family Systems Theory 

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

https://ifs-institute.com/about-us/richard-c-schwartz-phd 

https://www.mentallyfitpro.com/c/free-therapy-worksheets/internal-family-systems-worksheets 

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy. If you have thoughts of suicide or helf harm call 988 or your local emergency medical services. 

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Topics in Therapy Podcast
  • (00:00:45) - Ifs vs. INFINITY Child Work
  • (00:05:30) - How Do You Get the Client to Engage With Their Parts?
  • (00:10:20) - Permission-Getting in Therapy
  • (00:12:11) - Therapist on Ifs and Resistance
  • (00:16:10) - What Advice Would You Have for New Therapists?
  • (00:20:19) - Ifs of Therapy
]]> full 11 1 false Join us for part two of our interview on Internal Family Systems Theory 

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

https://ifs-institute.com/about-us/richard-c-schwartz-phd 

https://www.mentallyfitpro.com/c/free-therapy-worksheets/internal-family-systems-worksheets 

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy. If you have thoughts of suicide or helf harm call 988 or your local emergency medical services. 

]]> 00:20:56 <![CDATA[Ep. 10 Intro to IFS with Rich Reynolds LMFT Part 1]]> Fri, 14 Nov 2025 15:30:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2209170 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-10-intro-to-ifs-with-rich-reynolds-lmft-part-1 Join us for  part one of our interview on Internal Family Systems Theory 

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

https://ifs-institute.com/about-us/richard-c-schwartz-phd 

https://www.mentallyfitpro.com/c/free-therapy-worksheets/internal-family-systems-worksheets 

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy. If you have thoughts of suicide or helf harm call 988 or your local emergency medical services. 

]]> full 10 1 false Join us for  part one of our interview on Internal Family Systems Theory 

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

https://ifs-institute.com/about-us/richard-c-schwartz-phd 

https://www.mentallyfitpro.com/c/free-therapy-worksheets/internal-family-systems-worksheets 

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy. If you have thoughts of suicide or helf harm call 988 or your local emergency medical services. 

]]> 00:19:26 <![CDATA[Ep. 9 Halloween: Shame and the Masks We Wear]]> Fri, 31 Oct 2025 14:30:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2177264 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-9-halloween-shame-and-the-masks-we-wear In this episode we explore shame and the masks we wear. We explore how we see that in ourselves as new clinicians, how we see that in our clients, and ways to explore and address both.


Websites and Resources: 

Self compassion (selfcompassion.org)

https://www.tarabrach.com/ 

Simple Practice: RAIN

ACT: Kind Hand 

Self Hug (great firm pressure, grounding, comforting)

IFS (self do that for past parts that carry shame).

CBT reframes and ACT 

Chapters

  • (00:00:08) - Zest for Therapy: Shame and Guilt
  • (00:00:52) - What is Shame and What's the Difference Between It and Guilt
  • (00:02:28) - The Group vs Individual Shame
  • (00:04:56) - How to Recognize Shame in Our Own Skin as a New Ther
  • (00:08:08) - How to Be More Effective as a Therapist
  • (00:10:28) - Neuroscience: Recognizing Shame in Clients
  • (00:15:44) - How to Love When It rains
  • (00:18:22) - The 3 Steps of Rain
  • (00:25:23) - Self-Compassion and Therapy Aid
  • (00:28:51) - The role of communication in emotional recovery
  • (00:31:02) - Thank You!
]]> 9 1 false In this episode we explore shame and the masks we wear. We explore how we see that in ourselves as new clinicians, how we see that in our clients, and ways to explore and address both.


Websites and Resources: 

Self compassion (selfcompassion.org)

https://www.tarabrach.com/ 

Simple Practice: RAIN

ACT: Kind Hand 

Self Hug (great firm pressure, grounding, comforting)

IFS (self do that for past parts that carry shame).

CBT reframes and ACT 

]]> 00:31:41 <![CDATA[Ep. 8: Therapy and Thunderbolts]]> Fri, 17 Oct 2025 12:30:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2166903 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-8-therapy-and-thunderbolts Join us for our episode on Marvel's Thunderbolts, The New Avengers. 

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy. If you have thoughts of suicide or helf harm call 988 or your local emergency medical services. 

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Zest for Therapy: Thunderbolts
  • (00:01:08) - Thunderbolts
  • (00:01:40) - Thunderbolts
  • (00:02:59) - Black Panther Ending Explained
  • (00:03:40) - Black Book Review
  • (00:09:22) - Walker's Desperation For Validation
  • (00:10:48) - The Kid: Life Span Integration
  • (00:13:29) - Bob and The Void
  • (00:18:37) - How To Be Vulnerable With Your Partner
  • (00:24:30) - Bob Gets The Validation He Deserves
  • (00:25:07) - Yelena's Relationship With The Red Guardian
  • (00:29:35) - The Void (2019)
  • (00:34:04) - Fooled by Nature
]]> full 8 1 false Join us for our episode on Marvel's Thunderbolts, The New Avengers. 

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Courtney Doman AMFT and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy. If you have thoughts of suicide or helf harm call 988 or your local emergency medical services. 

]]> 00:35:11 <![CDATA[Ep. 7 Burnout Self Care Assessment]]> Mon, 06 Oct 2025 23:00:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2147903 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-7-burnout-self-care-assessment After we wrapped our episode on burnout I kept thinking how nice it would be to have someone walk me through my check ins on my way to work, so that is what we are doing today! We are going to be using some assessments specifically for mental health professionals and one from aviation that could also be applied to helping professions.

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Burnout Check In
  • (00:01:18) - How to Tell if You Have Burnout
  • (00:04:50) - Self-Care Scale
  • (00:07:09) - How to Prevent Burnout?
]]> full 7 1 false After we wrapped our episode on burnout I kept thinking how nice it would be to have someone walk me through my check ins on my way to work, so that is what we are doing today! We are going to be using some assessments specifically for mental health professionals and one from aviation that could also be applied to helping professions.

]]> 00:10:51 <![CDATA[Ep. 6 First Sessions, First Fumbles]]> Tue, 23 Sep 2025 21:35:55 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2147901 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-6-first-sessions-first-fumbles Join us for an epsiode where we share stories of first moments as a therapist in the therapy office. We have many cringy and laughable moments to share to help normalize feeling like an imposter and the learning curve that comes with these first steps as a new therapist.

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - VOTES IN THE FIELD: Therapy Podcast
  • (00:00:49) - Cringe Verboten First Sessions
  • (00:07:10) - Oh My Gosh! The Candy Shell Coming Out My Nose
  • (00:07:59) - The First Session Fiasco
  • (00:11:43) - Forgot clients' names in therapy
  • (00:14:14) - How to Win When You're Overthinking
  • (00:15:17) - How to Get Through a Therapy Session
  • (00:21:37) - First Time Therapy Story
]]> full 6 1 false Join us for an epsiode where we share stories of first moments as a therapist in the therapy office. We have many cringy and laughable moments to share to help normalize feeling like an imposter and the learning curve that comes with these first steps as a new therapist.

]]> 00:25:17 <![CDATA[Ep. 5: Private Practice vs Agency Part 2]]> Mon, 08 Sep 2025 23:00:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2132446 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-5-private-practice-vs-agency-part-2 Join us for our episode on private practice vs agency work and the pros and cons of working for each of them!

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast, Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.

 

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Private Practice vs Agency Therapy
  • (00:00:33) - 4 Step Process for New Graduates
  • (00:05:42) - What kind of person is suited to ditch it all and do private
  • (00:07:21) - Choosing the right practice for your life
  • (00:13:11) - What Do You Want To Be When You Grow Up?
  • (00:13:55) - What's the Most Exciting Thing About Your Work?
  • (00:16:31) - What's the Most Exciting Thing About Your Work?
  • (00:17:53) - What Would You Change About the Mental Health Field?
  • (00:21:52) - Burnout and self-care in MFT
  • (00:26:44) - What Advice Would You Give to Your Younger Self?
  • (00:30:01) - A New Therapist's First Session
  • (00:31:15) - Zest for Therapy Podcast, Part 2
]]> full 5 1 false Join us for our episode on private practice vs agency work and the pros and cons of working for each of them!

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast, Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.

 

]]> 00:31:36 <![CDATA[Ep. 4: Private Practice vs Agency Part 1]]> Mon, 01 Sep 2025 19:26:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2129386 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-4-private-practice-vs-agency Join us for our episode on private practice vs agency work and the pros and cons of working for each of them!

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast, Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.

 

]]> full 4 1 false Join us for our episode on private practice vs agency work and the pros and cons of working for each of them!

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast, Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.

 

]]> 00:27:34 <![CDATA[Ep. 3: Ethical Gray Areas]]> Mon, 25 Aug 2025 22:51:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2122851 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-3-ethical-gray-areas Join us for our episode on ethical gray areas where we explore and discuss ethical dilemmas and how different code of ethics may approach the situation.

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast, Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.

 

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Zest for Therapy: The Research TLDR
  • (00:00:56) - Why is exploring ethical gray areas important for us as clinicians?
  • (00:02:02) - Ethical gray areas in clinical practice
  • (00:09:22) - A list of non- negotiables for clients
  • (00:10:13) - Social Workers: Gift Acceptance
  • (00:13:19) - Beyond disclosure of information to minors: ethical gray area
]]> 3 1 false Join us for our episode on ethical gray areas where we explore and discuss ethical dilemmas and how different code of ethics may approach the situation.

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast, Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.

 

]]> 00:19:15 <![CDATA[Ep. 2: Burnout and Self-Care]]> Mon, 18 Aug 2025 22:50:00 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2094593 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-2-burnout-and-self-care-for-new-therapists Join us for our episode on burnout and self-care for new therapists! 

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast, Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.



]]> full 2 1 false Join us for our episode on burnout and self-care for new therapists! 

We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast, Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation. 

Show Notes and Substack: 

Show notes and resources referenced in today's episode are available on our substack account The Zest for Therapy Podcast. You can also send episode suggestions and feedback for today’s episode by commenting on our episode posts or sending us a DM. We may not respond to all messages but we read and appreciate each one!

https://substack.com/@zestfortherapy?r=68h1nf&utm_medium=ios

Disclaimer: 

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy or establish a patient provider relationship. Although Cole, Courtney, and Celeste are associate and intern therapists, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.



]]> 00:27:56 <![CDATA[Ep. 1: Intro to the Zest for Therapy Podcast]]> Mon, 21 Jul 2025 22:35:39 +0000 Courtney Doman, Celeste Webster https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/65961/episode/2094592 https://zestfortherapy.castos.com/episodes/ep-1-intro-to-the-zest-for-therapy-podcast Get to know us and the Zest for Therapy podcast! We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. 

Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation.

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy, supervision, or establish a patient/provider relationship. Although Courtney, Cole and Celeste are associate and intern therapists respectively, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Goal of the Podcast
  • (00:00:54) - Who We Are
  • (00:02:03) - Why Did We Decide to Become Therapists?
  • (00:08:26) - Welcome to The Zest for Therapy Podcast Series
]]> full 1 1 false Get to know us and the Zest for Therapy podcast! We are your cohosts for the Zest for Therapy Podcast Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi. 

Whether you are a pre-licensed intern, provisionally licensed therapist, or just feel new regardless of your license status, we know being a new therapist can be overwhelming. You are stepping out of your comfort zone, learning new things, sharpening your therapy skills, working on yourself, all while balancing life outside of work, or school. You might be experiencing imposter syndrome or still be finding your footing in therapy. Our goal at Zest for Therapy is to support new therapists by normalizing your experience, filling your tool box, and keeping you research informed. We want to build your confidence and competence, and ultimately help you feel less alone. We hope you join our supportive community and know that there are tools to help you as a therapist in your work to overcome burnout, overwhelm, and stagnation.

The Zest for Therapy Podcast, and the information provided by Cole Childers MSWi, Courtney Doman AMFT, and Celeste Webster MSWi, is solely intended for information and entertainment purposes and is not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, supervision, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions and does not constitute therapy, supervision, or establish a patient/provider relationship. Although Courtney, Cole and Celeste are associate and intern therapists respectively, the views and opinions expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician, psychiatrist, therapist, or supervisor before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health or practice of therapy.

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