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        <description>Culture Commerce Wine is a space for the big, messy, necessary conversations about what makes wine meaningful now, and what will keep it commercially viable tomorrow.

Hosted by strategist Polly Hammond (5forests, Wine Culture Lab), the series explores how wine (and the people who market it) can navigate changing expectations, new rituals, and the evolving signals of trust and taste.

Each episode features conversations with researchers, strategists, creators, and cultural thinkers, from both inside and outside wine. Together, we explore the shifts that shape modern consumption: how people choose, how they express identity, and how categories rise (or fade) based on their cultural fluency.

This isn’t a podcast about tradition or terroir. It’s about the business of being chosen — by the next generation of wine drinkers, and by the loyal customers who are shifting just as quickly.

Launching September 2025, with new episodes each week.</description>
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                <itunes:subtitle>Culture Commerce Wine is a space for the big, messy, necessary conversations about what makes wine meaningful now, and what will keep it commercially viable tomorrow.

Hosted by strategist Polly Hammond (5forests, Wine Culture Lab), the series explores how wine (and the people who market it) can navigate changing expectations, new rituals, and the evolving signals of trust and taste.

Each episode features conversations with researchers, strategists, creators, and cultural thinkers, from both inside and outside wine. Together, we explore the shifts that shape modern consumption: how people choose, how they express identity, and how categories rise (or fade) based on their cultural fluency.

This isn’t a podcast about tradition or terroir. It’s about the business of being chosen — by the next generation of wine drinkers, and by the loyal customers who are shifting just as quickly.

Launching September 2025, with new episodes each week.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <itunes:summary>Culture Commerce Wine is a space for the big, messy, necessary conversations about what makes wine meaningful now, and what will keep it commercially viable tomorrow.

Hosted by strategist Polly Hammond (5forests, Wine Culture Lab), the series explores how wine (and the people who market it) can navigate changing expectations, new rituals, and the evolving signals of trust and taste.

Each episode features conversations with researchers, strategists, creators, and cultural thinkers, from both inside and outside wine. Together, we explore the shifts that shape modern consumption: how people choose, how they express identity, and how categories rise (or fade) based on their cultural fluency.

This isn’t a podcast about tradition or terroir. It’s about the business of being chosen — by the next generation of wine drinkers, and by the loyal customers who are shifting just as quickly.

Launching September 2025, with new episodes each week.</itunes:summary>
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                    <![CDATA[Time Is the Last Luxury: Anant Sharma on Timelessness in an Age of Acceleration]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to build a brand that endures in a culture addicted to optimization?</p>
<p>In this episode of Culture Commerce Wine, Polly Hammond sits down with Anant Sharma, Founder &amp; CEO of Matter of Form, for a conversation about the one resource modern brands undervalue most: time.</p>
<p>Anant argues that “luxury” has collapsed into a search term, and that the future belongs to brands that slow down — brands that take time to understand people, to craft experiences, to design journeys that unfold with intention rather than optimise for the next click.</p>
<p>Together, we explore:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why timelessness, not luxury, is the real mark of value</li>
<li>The choreography of brand experience and the sequence of touchpoints that create meaning</li>
<li>How positive friction deepens connection in a world obsessed with convenience</li>
<li>The role of craft, provenance, and process in an AI-driven landscape</li>
<li>Why curiosity and long-term thinking are essential for innovation</li>
<li>How heritage should be used as provocation, not nostalgia</li>
<li>What it means to build something “niche and globally lovable”</li>
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<p>This is a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation for anyone shaping brands in culture—especially those resisting the pressure to move faster, ship sooner, and optimise everything to death.</p>
<p>If time is the last true luxury, what does it look like to treat it as a strategy?</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What does it take to build a brand that endures in a culture addicted to optimization?
In this episode of Culture Commerce Wine, Polly Hammond sits down with Anant Sharma, Founder & CEO of Matter of Form, for a conversation about the one resource modern brands undervalue most: time.
Anant argues that “luxury” has collapsed into a search term, and that the future belongs to brands that slow down — brands that take time to understand people, to craft experiences, to design journeys that unfold with intention rather than optimise for the next click.
Together, we explore:

Why timelessness, not luxury, is the real mark of value
The choreography of brand experience and the sequence of touchpoints that create meaning
How positive friction deepens connection in a world obsessed with convenience
The role of craft, provenance, and process in an AI-driven landscape
Why curiosity and long-term thinking are essential for innovation
How heritage should be used as provocation, not nostalgia
What it means to build something “niche and globally lovable”

This is a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation for anyone shaping brands in culture—especially those resisting the pressure to move faster, ship sooner, and optimise everything to death.
If time is the last true luxury, what does it look like to treat it as a strategy?]]>
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<p>In this episode of Culture Commerce Wine, Polly Hammond sits down with Anant Sharma, Founder &amp; CEO of Matter of Form, for a conversation about the one resource modern brands undervalue most: time.</p>
<p>Anant argues that “luxury” has collapsed into a search term, and that the future belongs to brands that slow down — brands that take time to understand people, to craft experiences, to design journeys that unfold with intention rather than optimise for the next click.</p>
<p>Together, we explore:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why timelessness, not luxury, is the real mark of value</li>
<li>The choreography of brand experience and the sequence of touchpoints that create meaning</li>
<li>How positive friction deepens connection in a world obsessed with convenience</li>
<li>The role of craft, provenance, and process in an AI-driven landscape</li>
<li>Why curiosity and long-term thinking are essential for innovation</li>
<li>How heritage should be used as provocation, not nostalgia</li>
<li>What it means to build something “niche and globally lovable”</li>
</ul>
<p>This is a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation for anyone shaping brands in culture—especially those resisting the pressure to move faster, ship sooner, and optimise everything to death.</p>
<p>If time is the last true luxury, what does it look like to treat it as a strategy?</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What does it take to build a brand that endures in a culture addicted to optimization?
In this episode of Culture Commerce Wine, Polly Hammond sits down with Anant Sharma, Founder & CEO of Matter of Form, for a conversation about the one resource modern brands undervalue most: time.
Anant argues that “luxury” has collapsed into a search term, and that the future belongs to brands that slow down — brands that take time to understand people, to craft experiences, to design journeys that unfold with intention rather than optimise for the next click.
Together, we explore:

Why timelessness, not luxury, is the real mark of value
The choreography of brand experience and the sequence of touchpoints that create meaning
How positive friction deepens connection in a world obsessed with convenience
The role of craft, provenance, and process in an AI-driven landscape
Why curiosity and long-term thinking are essential for innovation
How heritage should be used as provocation, not nostalgia
What it means to build something “niche and globally lovable”

This is a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation for anyone shaping brands in culture—especially those resisting the pressure to move faster, ship sooner, and optimise everything to death.
If time is the last true luxury, what does it look like to treat it as a strategy?]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Reinventing the Oldest Wine Region on Earth: Aimee Keushguerian on Culture, Risk, and Relevance]]>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to rebuild a wine culture from the ground up?</p>
<p>At just 32, Aimee Keushguerian is helping redefine Armenia’s place in the world of fine wine — turning a fractured Soviet legacy into a story of renewal, collaboration, and cultural relevance. In this episode of Culture Commerce Wine, Polly Hammond and Aimee explore what it means to build identity in the world’s oldest documented wine region, where heritage can be both a gift and a trap.</p>
<ul>
<li>They discuss:<br />– How Armenia’s young wine industry is reinventing heritage<br />– Why scarcity and experimentation appeal to a new generation of drinkers<br />– The creation of the Vayots Dzor appellation and Armenia’s fine wine ambitions<br />– The balance between storytelling, risk, and transparency<br />– What “success” really means for a culture still defining itself</li>
</ul>
<p>This is a not-to-be-missed conversation about how culture is made, how it’s rebuilt, and why the future of wine depends on relevance as much as on roots.</p>
<p> Watch the full episode: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOY8tiay4FE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOY8tiay4FE</a></p>
<p> Read the full article: <a href="https://wineculturelab.com/podcast/reinventing-the-oldest-wine-region-on-earth-with-aimee-keushguerian/">https://wineculturelab.com/podcast/reinventing-the-oldest-wine-region-on-earth-with-aimee-keushguerian/</a></p>
<p> Learn more about Aimee Keushguerian and Zulal Wines: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/zulalwines">https://www.instagram.com/zulalwines</a></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What does it take to rebuild a wine culture from the ground up?
At just 32, Aimee Keushguerian is helping redefine Armenia’s place in the world of fine wine — turning a fractured Soviet legacy into a story of renewal, collaboration, and cultural relevance. In this episode of Culture Commerce Wine, Polly Hammond and Aimee explore what it means to build identity in the world’s oldest documented wine region, where heritage can be both a gift and a trap.

They discuss:– How Armenia’s young wine industry is reinventing heritage– Why scarcity and experimentation appeal to a new generation of drinkers– The creation of the Vayots Dzor appellation and Armenia’s fine wine ambitions– The balance between storytelling, risk, and transparency– What “success” really means for a culture still defining itself

This is a not-to-be-missed conversation about how culture is made, how it’s rebuilt, and why the future of wine depends on relevance as much as on roots.
 Watch the full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOY8tiay4FE
 Read the full article: https://wineculturelab.com/podcast/reinventing-the-oldest-wine-region-on-earth-with-aimee-keushguerian/
 Learn more about Aimee Keushguerian and Zulal Wines: https://www.instagram.com/zulalwines]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to rebuild a wine culture from the ground up?</p>
<p>At just 32, Aimee Keushguerian is helping redefine Armenia’s place in the world of fine wine — turning a fractured Soviet legacy into a story of renewal, collaboration, and cultural relevance. In this episode of Culture Commerce Wine, Polly Hammond and Aimee explore what it means to build identity in the world’s oldest documented wine region, where heritage can be both a gift and a trap.</p>
<ul>
<li>They discuss:<br />– How Armenia’s young wine industry is reinventing heritage<br />– Why scarcity and experimentation appeal to a new generation of drinkers<br />– The creation of the Vayots Dzor appellation and Armenia’s fine wine ambitions<br />– The balance between storytelling, risk, and transparency<br />– What “success” really means for a culture still defining itself</li>
</ul>
<p>This is a not-to-be-missed conversation about how culture is made, how it’s rebuilt, and why the future of wine depends on relevance as much as on roots.</p>
<p> Watch the full episode: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOY8tiay4FE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOY8tiay4FE</a></p>
<p> Read the full article: <a href="https://wineculturelab.com/podcast/reinventing-the-oldest-wine-region-on-earth-with-aimee-keushguerian/">https://wineculturelab.com/podcast/reinventing-the-oldest-wine-region-on-earth-with-aimee-keushguerian/</a></p>
<p> Learn more about Aimee Keushguerian and Zulal Wines: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/zulalwines">https://www.instagram.com/zulalwines</a></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What does it take to rebuild a wine culture from the ground up?
At just 32, Aimee Keushguerian is helping redefine Armenia’s place in the world of fine wine — turning a fractured Soviet legacy into a story of renewal, collaboration, and cultural relevance. In this episode of Culture Commerce Wine, Polly Hammond and Aimee explore what it means to build identity in the world’s oldest documented wine region, where heritage can be both a gift and a trap.

They discuss:– How Armenia’s young wine industry is reinventing heritage– Why scarcity and experimentation appeal to a new generation of drinkers– The creation of the Vayots Dzor appellation and Armenia’s fine wine ambitions– The balance between storytelling, risk, and transparency– What “success” really means for a culture still defining itself

This is a not-to-be-missed conversation about how culture is made, how it’s rebuilt, and why the future of wine depends on relevance as much as on roots.
 Watch the full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOY8tiay4FE
 Read the full article: https://wineculturelab.com/podcast/reinventing-the-oldest-wine-region-on-earth-with-aimee-keushguerian/
 Learn more about Aimee Keushguerian and Zulal Wines: https://www.instagram.com/zulalwines]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Pleasure, Power, and Wine, with Cindy Gallop]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 12:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Polly Hammond sits down with Cindy Gallop — founder of MakeLoveNotPorn and the self-described “Michael Bay of business” — to talk about pleasure, power, taboo, and what happens when entire industries lose their cultural license.</p>
<p>From sextech to wine, the conversation explores how pleasure industries navigate censorship, moral panic, and shifting values — and why the answer isn’t to clamp down, but to open up.</p>
<p>They unpack:</p>
<ul>
<li>How to reinvent aspirational culture for the next generation</li>
<li>Why transparency and empathy build trust where regulation erodes it</li>
<li>What “earned media” really means in an age of deplatforming</li>
<li>How to stand for something — and keep your team behind you when it counts</li>
</ul>
<p>If you care about culture, commerce, and keeping wine relevant in a world that’s rewriting the rules, this is your must-watch conversation.</p>
<p> Connect with Cindy Gallop:</p>
<ul>
<li>MakeLoveNotPorn: <a href="https://makelovenotporn.tv/">makelovenotporn.tv</a></li>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop/</a></li>
</ul>
<p> Read more at https://wineculturelab.com/</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode, Polly Hammond sits down with Cindy Gallop — founder of MakeLoveNotPorn and the self-described “Michael Bay of business” — to talk about pleasure, power, taboo, and what happens when entire industries lose their cultural license.
From sextech to wine, the conversation explores how pleasure industries navigate censorship, moral panic, and shifting values — and why the answer isn’t to clamp down, but to open up.
They unpack:

How to reinvent aspirational culture for the next generation
Why transparency and empathy build trust where regulation erodes it
What “earned media” really means in an age of deplatforming
How to stand for something — and keep your team behind you when it counts

If you care about culture, commerce, and keeping wine relevant in a world that’s rewriting the rules, this is your must-watch conversation.
 Connect with Cindy Gallop:

MakeLoveNotPorn: makelovenotporn.tv
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop/

 Read more at https://wineculturelab.com/]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Polly Hammond sits down with Cindy Gallop — founder of MakeLoveNotPorn and the self-described “Michael Bay of business” — to talk about pleasure, power, taboo, and what happens when entire industries lose their cultural license.</p>
<p>From sextech to wine, the conversation explores how pleasure industries navigate censorship, moral panic, and shifting values — and why the answer isn’t to clamp down, but to open up.</p>
<p>They unpack:</p>
<ul>
<li>How to reinvent aspirational culture for the next generation</li>
<li>Why transparency and empathy build trust where regulation erodes it</li>
<li>What “earned media” really means in an age of deplatforming</li>
<li>How to stand for something — and keep your team behind you when it counts</li>
</ul>
<p>If you care about culture, commerce, and keeping wine relevant in a world that’s rewriting the rules, this is your must-watch conversation.</p>
<p> Connect with Cindy Gallop:</p>
<ul>
<li>MakeLoveNotPorn: <a href="https://makelovenotporn.tv/">makelovenotporn.tv</a></li>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop/</a></li>
</ul>
<p> Read more at https://wineculturelab.com/</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[In this episode, Polly Hammond sits down with Cindy Gallop — founder of MakeLoveNotPorn and the self-described “Michael Bay of business” — to talk about pleasure, power, taboo, and what happens when entire industries lose their cultural license.
From sextech to wine, the conversation explores how pleasure industries navigate censorship, moral panic, and shifting values — and why the answer isn’t to clamp down, but to open up.
They unpack:

How to reinvent aspirational culture for the next generation
Why transparency and empathy build trust where regulation erodes it
What “earned media” really means in an age of deplatforming
How to stand for something — and keep your team behind you when it counts

If you care about culture, commerce, and keeping wine relevant in a world that’s rewriting the rules, this is your must-watch conversation.
 Connect with Cindy Gallop:

MakeLoveNotPorn: makelovenotporn.tv
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop/

 Read more at https://wineculturelab.com/]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Advertising, Differentiation, and Why Wine Needs to Lighten Up with Barbara Gorder]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2025 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>What can wine learn from the world’s biggest ad campaigns?</p>
<p>Barbara Gorder has built brands on two stages: global agencies like Leo Burnett and DDB, where she worked on icons from Procter &amp; Gamble to General Motors, and the wine world, where she helps wineries navigate direct-to-consumer strategy and creative marketing. In this conversation, she and Polly explore the discipline behind campaigns that stick, the role of packaging, and why humor and nostalgia are powerful but underused tools in wine</p>
<p>Barbara argues that the wine industry’s tendency to tell the same family story isn’t enough to win attention in a crowded marketplace of 11,000 wineries. Instead, differentiation, rigorous briefs, and a willingness to experiment are key. She shows how wineries can borrow lessons from CPG and luxury, embrace new digital tools, and learn to value marketing as central to their business rather than an afterthought.</p>
<p>Whether you’re in wine or any brand-led business, this is a practical, insightful conversation about creativity, discipline, and growth.</p>
<p>What you’ll learn:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why the tight creative brief is the foundation of effective campaigns.</li>
<li>How to move beyond “quality” and family stories toward real differentiation.</li>
<li>What packaging can (and can’t) do for brand strategy.</li>
<li>Why humor and nostalgia cut through consumer fatigue — and how wine can use them.</li>
<li>How DTC tools and digital media allow even small wineries to compete.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Get your tickets to the 2026 DTC Wine Symposium here: https://dtcwinesymposium.com/</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What can wine learn from the world’s biggest ad campaigns?
Barbara Gorder has built brands on two stages: global agencies like Leo Burnett and DDB, where she worked on icons from Procter & Gamble to General Motors, and the wine world, where she helps wineries navigate direct-to-consumer strategy and creative marketing. In this conversation, she and Polly explore the discipline behind campaigns that stick, the role of packaging, and why humor and nostalgia are powerful but underused tools in wine
Barbara argues that the wine industry’s tendency to tell the same family story isn’t enough to win attention in a crowded marketplace of 11,000 wineries. Instead, differentiation, rigorous briefs, and a willingness to experiment are key. She shows how wineries can borrow lessons from CPG and luxury, embrace new digital tools, and learn to value marketing as central to their business rather than an afterthought.
Whether you’re in wine or any brand-led business, this is a practical, insightful conversation about creativity, discipline, and growth.
What you’ll learn:

Why the tight creative brief is the foundation of effective campaigns.
How to move beyond “quality” and family stories toward real differentiation.
What packaging can (and can’t) do for brand strategy.
Why humor and nostalgia cut through consumer fatigue — and how wine can use them.
How DTC tools and digital media allow even small wineries to compete.

Get your tickets to the 2026 DTC Wine Symposium here: https://dtcwinesymposium.com/]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Advertising, Differentiation, and Why Wine Needs to Lighten Up with Barbara Gorder]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>What can wine learn from the world’s biggest ad campaigns?</p>
<p>Barbara Gorder has built brands on two stages: global agencies like Leo Burnett and DDB, where she worked on icons from Procter &amp; Gamble to General Motors, and the wine world, where she helps wineries navigate direct-to-consumer strategy and creative marketing. In this conversation, she and Polly explore the discipline behind campaigns that stick, the role of packaging, and why humor and nostalgia are powerful but underused tools in wine</p>
<p>Barbara argues that the wine industry’s tendency to tell the same family story isn’t enough to win attention in a crowded marketplace of 11,000 wineries. Instead, differentiation, rigorous briefs, and a willingness to experiment are key. She shows how wineries can borrow lessons from CPG and luxury, embrace new digital tools, and learn to value marketing as central to their business rather than an afterthought.</p>
<p>Whether you’re in wine or any brand-led business, this is a practical, insightful conversation about creativity, discipline, and growth.</p>
<p>What you’ll learn:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why the tight creative brief is the foundation of effective campaigns.</li>
<li>How to move beyond “quality” and family stories toward real differentiation.</li>
<li>What packaging can (and can’t) do for brand strategy.</li>
<li>Why humor and nostalgia cut through consumer fatigue — and how wine can use them.</li>
<li>How DTC tools and digital media allow even small wineries to compete.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Get your tickets to the 2026 DTC Wine Symposium here: https://dtcwinesymposium.com/</strong></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What can wine learn from the world’s biggest ad campaigns?
Barbara Gorder has built brands on two stages: global agencies like Leo Burnett and DDB, where she worked on icons from Procter & Gamble to General Motors, and the wine world, where she helps wineries navigate direct-to-consumer strategy and creative marketing. In this conversation, she and Polly explore the discipline behind campaigns that stick, the role of packaging, and why humor and nostalgia are powerful but underused tools in wine
Barbara argues that the wine industry’s tendency to tell the same family story isn’t enough to win attention in a crowded marketplace of 11,000 wineries. Instead, differentiation, rigorous briefs, and a willingness to experiment are key. She shows how wineries can borrow lessons from CPG and luxury, embrace new digital tools, and learn to value marketing as central to their business rather than an afterthought.
Whether you’re in wine or any brand-led business, this is a practical, insightful conversation about creativity, discipline, and growth.
What you’ll learn:

Why the tight creative brief is the foundation of effective campaigns.
How to move beyond “quality” and family stories toward real differentiation.
What packaging can (and can’t) do for brand strategy.
Why humor and nostalgia cut through consumer fatigue — and how wine can use them.
How DTC tools and digital media allow even small wineries to compete.

Get your tickets to the 2026 DTC Wine Symposium here: https://dtcwinesymposium.com/]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:49:56</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Wine Culture Lab]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Trust, Technology, and Taste with Max Kantelia]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2025 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p>What can wine learn from Web3, gaming, and digital culture? <br />In this episode, entrepreneur, investor, and wine lover Max Kantelia joins me to explore how blockchain, multisensory experiences, and new forms of community are reshaping heritage industries like wine.</p>
<p>We discuss:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why blockchain is more than crypto speculation</li>
<li>How luxury brands are experimenting with hybrid physical-digital experiences</li>
<li>What gaming platforms like Minecraft and Roblox teach us about community building</li>
<li>The new meaning of trust in a world of verification and transparency</li>
<li>What “real utility” looks like for wine and luxury brands</li>
<li>The risks of bandwagon adoption — and the rewards of long-term cultural thinking</li>
</ul>
<p>Wine has always been about culture, connection, and identity. But as the next generation grows up in immersive digital spaces, the question isn’t whether wine should adapt — it’s how.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What can wine learn from Web3, gaming, and digital culture? In this episode, entrepreneur, investor, and wine lover Max Kantelia joins me to explore how blockchain, multisensory experiences, and new forms of community are reshaping heritage industries like wine.
We discuss:

Why blockchain is more than crypto speculation
How luxury brands are experimenting with hybrid physical-digital experiences
What gaming platforms like Minecraft and Roblox teach us about community building
The new meaning of trust in a world of verification and transparency
What “real utility” looks like for wine and luxury brands
The risks of bandwagon adoption — and the rewards of long-term cultural thinking

Wine has always been about culture, connection, and identity. But as the next generation grows up in immersive digital spaces, the question isn’t whether wine should adapt — it’s how.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Trust, Technology, and Taste with Max Kantelia]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>What can wine learn from Web3, gaming, and digital culture? <br />In this episode, entrepreneur, investor, and wine lover Max Kantelia joins me to explore how blockchain, multisensory experiences, and new forms of community are reshaping heritage industries like wine.</p>
<p>We discuss:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why blockchain is more than crypto speculation</li>
<li>How luxury brands are experimenting with hybrid physical-digital experiences</li>
<li>What gaming platforms like Minecraft and Roblox teach us about community building</li>
<li>The new meaning of trust in a world of verification and transparency</li>
<li>What “real utility” looks like for wine and luxury brands</li>
<li>The risks of bandwagon adoption — and the rewards of long-term cultural thinking</li>
</ul>
<p>Wine has always been about culture, connection, and identity. But as the next generation grows up in immersive digital spaces, the question isn’t whether wine should adapt — it’s how.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[What can wine learn from Web3, gaming, and digital culture? In this episode, entrepreneur, investor, and wine lover Max Kantelia joins me to explore how blockchain, multisensory experiences, and new forms of community are reshaping heritage industries like wine.
We discuss:

Why blockchain is more than crypto speculation
How luxury brands are experimenting with hybrid physical-digital experiences
What gaming platforms like Minecraft and Roblox teach us about community building
The new meaning of trust in a world of verification and transparency
What “real utility” looks like for wine and luxury brands
The risks of bandwagon adoption — and the rewards of long-term cultural thinking

Wine has always been about culture, connection, and identity. But as the next generation grows up in immersive digital spaces, the question isn’t whether wine should adapt — it’s how.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:56:54</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Wine Culture Lab]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Belonging, Brand Farming, and Building Brands That Last with Charl Bassil]]>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2025 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Wine Culture Lab</dc:creator>
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                                <description>
                                            <![CDATA[<p>For our very first episode of Culture Commerce Wine, I sit down with Charl Bassil, whose career has spanned Procter &amp; Gamble, SABMiller, Pernod Ricard, Absolut Vodka, and now the BBC, where he serves as the broadcaster’s first Chief Brand Officer.</p>
<p>We talk about the frameworks and philosophies that guide his work — from Kantar’s “brand power” to his own “brand farmer” analogy — and why he believes the core job of marketing is helping people feel like they belong.</p>
<p>Along the way, Charl shares lesso ns on:</p>
<ul>
<li>Transferring brand skills across industries, from alcohol to media</li>
<li>Balancing heritage brands with digital-first innovation</li>
<li>Why technology is a tool, not a replacement for human connection</li>
<li>Navigating short-term performance vs. long-term brand resilience</li>
<li>How inclusivity and belonging shape brand communities and business value</li>
</ul>
<p>Whether you’re shaping the future of wine, media, or consumer brands, this conversation is a masterclass in connecting strategy with story, and commerce with culture.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For our very first episode of Culture Commerce Wine, I sit down with Charl Bassil, whose career has spanned Procter & Gamble, SABMiller, Pernod Ricard, Absolut Vodka, and now the BBC, where he serves as the broadcaster’s first Chief Brand Officer.
We talk about the frameworks and philosophies that guide his work — from Kantar’s “brand power” to his own “brand farmer” analogy — and why he believes the core job of marketing is helping people feel like they belong.
Along the way, Charl shares lesso ns on:

Transferring brand skills across industries, from alcohol to media
Balancing heritage brands with digital-first innovation
Why technology is a tool, not a replacement for human connection
Navigating short-term performance vs. long-term brand resilience
How inclusivity and belonging shape brand communities and business value

Whether you’re shaping the future of wine, media, or consumer brands, this conversation is a masterclass in connecting strategy with story, and commerce with culture.]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Belonging, Brand Farming, and Building Brands That Last with Charl Bassil]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p>For our very first episode of Culture Commerce Wine, I sit down with Charl Bassil, whose career has spanned Procter &amp; Gamble, SABMiller, Pernod Ricard, Absolut Vodka, and now the BBC, where he serves as the broadcaster’s first Chief Brand Officer.</p>
<p>We talk about the frameworks and philosophies that guide his work — from Kantar’s “brand power” to his own “brand farmer” analogy — and why he believes the core job of marketing is helping people feel like they belong.</p>
<p>Along the way, Charl shares lesso ns on:</p>
<ul>
<li>Transferring brand skills across industries, from alcohol to media</li>
<li>Balancing heritage brands with digital-first innovation</li>
<li>Why technology is a tool, not a replacement for human connection</li>
<li>Navigating short-term performance vs. long-term brand resilience</li>
<li>How inclusivity and belonging shape brand communities and business value</li>
</ul>
<p>Whether you’re shaping the future of wine, media, or consumer brands, this conversation is a masterclass in connecting strategy with story, and commerce with culture.</p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[For our very first episode of Culture Commerce Wine, I sit down with Charl Bassil, whose career has spanned Procter & Gamble, SABMiller, Pernod Ricard, Absolut Vodka, and now the BBC, where he serves as the broadcaster’s first Chief Brand Officer.
We talk about the frameworks and philosophies that guide his work — from Kantar’s “brand power” to his own “brand farmer” analogy — and why he believes the core job of marketing is helping people feel like they belong.
Along the way, Charl shares lesso ns on:

Transferring brand skills across industries, from alcohol to media
Balancing heritage brands with digital-first innovation
Why technology is a tool, not a replacement for human connection
Navigating short-term performance vs. long-term brand resilience
How inclusivity and belonging shape brand communities and business value

Whether you’re shaping the future of wine, media, or consumer brands, this conversation is a masterclass in connecting strategy with story, and commerce with culture.]]>
                </itunes:summary>
                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:50:29</itunes:duration>
                                                    <itunes:author>
                    <![CDATA[Wine Culture Lab]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Introducing Culture // Commerce // Wine]]>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2025 17:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator>Wine Culture Lab</dc:creator>
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                                            <![CDATA[<p><strong>Is wine still part of the cultural conversation?</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Or is it quietly slipping into the background, overshadowed by changing tastes, evolving values, and faster-moving categories?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Because the way people buy, drink, and talk about wine is shifting — and not just among Gen Z. Across all age groups, we’re seeing new expectations, new rituals, and new behaviors that traditional wine marketing struggles to keep up with.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">So how do wine brands stay relevant in a culture that doesn’t owe them its attention?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">That’s the question behind </span><em><span style="font-weight:400;">Culture // Commerce // Wine</span></em><span style="font-weight:400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">This podcast is a space for the big, messy, necessary conversations about what makes wine meaningful now—and what will keep it commercially viable tomorrow.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Each episode, I talk to strategists, researchers, creators, and cultural thinkers—from inside and outside wine—about how brands navigate cultural relevance, behavioral shifts, and changing definitions of value.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">We’ll explore the signals that matter: how people choose, how they talk, how they buy. From TikTok to tableside. From attention to action.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Because culture moves. Channels change. And if we want wine to stay relevant, we have to understand who it’s for—and how that’s evolving.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Culture // Commerce // Wine launches September 2025.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Subscribe now, and join me as we explore what’s changing, what matters, and what wine needs to do next.</span></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Is wine still part of the cultural conversation?
Or is it quietly slipping into the background, overshadowed by changing tastes, evolving values, and faster-moving categories?
Because the way people buy, drink, and talk about wine is shifting — and not just among Gen Z. Across all age groups, we’re seeing new expectations, new rituals, and new behaviors that traditional wine marketing struggles to keep up with.
So how do wine brands stay relevant in a culture that doesn’t owe them its attention?
That’s the question behind Culture // Commerce // Wine.
This podcast is a space for the big, messy, necessary conversations about what makes wine meaningful now—and what will keep it commercially viable tomorrow.
Each episode, I talk to strategists, researchers, creators, and cultural thinkers—from inside and outside wine—about how brands navigate cultural relevance, behavioral shifts, and changing definitions of value.
We’ll explore the signals that matter: how people choose, how they talk, how they buy. From TikTok to tableside. From attention to action.
Because culture moves. Channels change. And if we want wine to stay relevant, we have to understand who it’s for—and how that’s evolving.
Culture // Commerce // Wine launches September 2025.
Subscribe now, and join me as we explore what’s changing, what matters, and what wine needs to do next.]]>
                </itunes:subtitle>
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                    <![CDATA[Introducing Culture // Commerce // Wine]]>
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                    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Is wine still part of the cultural conversation?</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Or is it quietly slipping into the background, overshadowed by changing tastes, evolving values, and faster-moving categories?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Because the way people buy, drink, and talk about wine is shifting — and not just among Gen Z. Across all age groups, we’re seeing new expectations, new rituals, and new behaviors that traditional wine marketing struggles to keep up with.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">So how do wine brands stay relevant in a culture that doesn’t owe them its attention?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">That’s the question behind </span><em><span style="font-weight:400;">Culture // Commerce // Wine</span></em><span style="font-weight:400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">This podcast is a space for the big, messy, necessary conversations about what makes wine meaningful now—and what will keep it commercially viable tomorrow.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Each episode, I talk to strategists, researchers, creators, and cultural thinkers—from inside and outside wine—about how brands navigate cultural relevance, behavioral shifts, and changing definitions of value.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">We’ll explore the signals that matter: how people choose, how they talk, how they buy. From TikTok to tableside. From attention to action.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Because culture moves. Channels change. And if we want wine to stay relevant, we have to understand who it’s for—and how that’s evolving.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Culture // Commerce // Wine launches September 2025.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:400;">Subscribe now, and join me as we explore what’s changing, what matters, and what wine needs to do next.</span></p>]]>
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                    <![CDATA[Is wine still part of the cultural conversation?
Or is it quietly slipping into the background, overshadowed by changing tastes, evolving values, and faster-moving categories?
Because the way people buy, drink, and talk about wine is shifting — and not just among Gen Z. Across all age groups, we’re seeing new expectations, new rituals, and new behaviors that traditional wine marketing struggles to keep up with.
So how do wine brands stay relevant in a culture that doesn’t owe them its attention?
That’s the question behind Culture // Commerce // Wine.
This podcast is a space for the big, messy, necessary conversations about what makes wine meaningful now—and what will keep it commercially viable tomorrow.
Each episode, I talk to strategists, researchers, creators, and cultural thinkers—from inside and outside wine—about how brands navigate cultural relevance, behavioral shifts, and changing definitions of value.
We’ll explore the signals that matter: how people choose, how they talk, how they buy. From TikTok to tableside. From attention to action.
Because culture moves. Channels change. And if we want wine to stay relevant, we have to understand who it’s for—and how that’s evolving.
Culture // Commerce // Wine launches September 2025.
Subscribe now, and join me as we explore what’s changing, what matters, and what wine needs to do next.]]>
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                                                                            <itunes:duration>00:02:03</itunes:duration>
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