Zach kicks off the show addressing the flood of anxious questions about low water levels on the Middle Fork of the Salmon and the Rogue River. His take? It's not actually that low:

• Middle Fork of the Salmon: Currently running at 3.2 feet, which is very close to average. A truly "low" water level would be down around 1.8 feet. Zach notes that anything between 80% and 120% of average is a good, normal flow.
• The Rogue River: The dam is releasing 1,400 CFS (with some diverted for irrigation), leaving about 1,200 CFS in the river—though it may drop to 1,100 CFS soon. It doesn't get truly "low" until it dips below 900 CFS.
• Zach's Low-Water Strategy: If you do end up running low water, adjust by bringing less gear so your boats aren't heavy, and potentially bringing more boats on the trip.

Introducing Submarine Hole

Zach introduces his new website, submarinehole.com. It is designed as a professional discussion board for river rescue instructors, rowing/raft instructors, and professional guides to share ideas and keep a lasting log of information. While there is a small section for private boaters, the primary focus is to serve as a resource for river pros.

Oar Geometry & Rigging Rules of Thumb

Answering a listener question about dialing in oar towers on a used frame setup where the rower sits on a dry box four inches above the frame, Zach shares his setup guidelines:

• Oar Tower Height: Stick with 8-inch oar towers. Moving up to 10-inch towers splays the oars out too much, which can inadvertently add up to a foot of length to your oar setup.
• Tower Distance: Place your oar towers roughly in line with your kneecaps. If they are too close, it’s incredibly hard to ship your oars; too far forward, and you’ll find yourself awkwardly leaning too far into your stroke.
• The 1.63 Rule: Multiplying your span by 1.63 to find your oar length is correct about 90% of the time, though exceptions exist based on your specific boat size and gear load.

Tuning Pins & Clips

When it comes to tuning your oar clips to your pins, skip the rubber mallet. Zach recommends using a dead blow mallet, a steel hammer, or even a heavy river rock to bend them.

You want the clip tuned tight enough that it takes a very hard, deliberate jerk to pull the oar off the pin, but loose enough that it stays on securely when you're just holding and leaning on it. He also notes his dislike for PVC sleeves over pins, as they wear unevenly and constantly change your tuning.

The Tuolumne River: Levels & Schedules

Zach reminisces about his guiding career on the Tuolumne River, which is completely unpermitted this year. He breaks down his favorite flows:

• 1,000 CFS (Zach's Favorite): Highly demanding and technical; perfect for rowing a heavy, 16-foot gear boat through tight channels.
• 2,000 – 3,000 CFS (Crowd Favorite): Big, splashy waves and forgiving, open lines. This is the epitome of classic Class IV rafting.
• 4,000 – 6,000 CFS: Highly challenging with fast-moving water, big holes (like the main hole at Gray's), and heavy consequences if you flip.
• April Trips: Zach highly recommends April on the Tuolumne. It usually runs around 2,000–3,000 CFS with spectacular wildflower blooms.
• The July Water Schedule: In the summer, water releases are dam-controlled to about 1,000 CFS for three hours a day. This puts boaters on a strict water schedule (e.g., the bubble reaches Clavey at noon and North Fork at 2:00 PM).

New Custom Gear & 3D Printing

Zach is actively printing and testing custom, purpose-built gear cases. Up first is a dedicated Tear-Aid container. While you can use cheap M&M Mini tubes or gelato containers, they don't clearly signal to other guides what's inside, and they tend to crack after a few years.

His custom containers hold 2 to 3 rolls of Tear-Aid, feature a rugged texture for easy gripping, and take 8 hours to print. He plans to sell them for around $25, styled in a "repair color" scheme of light and dark blue. Zach is also prototyping a bucket-mounted bracket to hold Mrs. Meyer's soap containers off the ground at camp.

Whitewater Accident Database Accuracy

When asked if the American Whitewater accident database misses many deaths, Zach praises Charlie Walbridge's thoroughness. He notes that while commercial companies sometimes attempt to minimize press surrounding fatalities, Charlie is incredibly diligent at documenting both commercial and private river deaths in the US. Zach admits he cannot think of a single US river fatality he's known of that didn't ultimately end up in the database.

Episode Summary

The primary discussion segment serves as a major public service announcement regarding the eternal debate of pushing versus pulling when navigating technical rapids. Reacting to a social media clip shared by fellow boater Brody, Zach strongly emphasizes that a lack of pulling skills leads many private boaters and newer guides to blow standard moves and miss vital eddies. He highlights that pushing places a raft traveling faster than the river current, significantly heightening a boater's vulnerability. To illustrate his point, Zach conducts a video review of a rafter attempting to push through Horn Rapid on the Grand Canyon, demonstrating how a poor approach angle and reliance on pushing funneled the boat straight into a massive wall and hydraulic, forcing a dramatic high side to avoid a full wrap.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Commercial Booking: Understanding outfitter guidelines and trip logistics at Northwest Rafting Company.
• Rowing Technique: Exploring the safety dynamics, speed control, and angling mechanics of pushing versus pulling.
• Online Discussions: Check out Submarine Hole - a forum for whitewater rafters

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Commercial Guidelines. Why are commercial outfitters unable to accommodate guests who wish to row or paddle their personal boats alongside a guided trip?
• Topic: Hydraulic Management. How does pushing a raft alter its speed relative to the current and limit a guide's ability to pull away from hazards?
• Topic: Technical Rowing. What core skills should whitewater rowers develop before attempting advanced Class IV or Class V river corridors?

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

Episode Summary

Zach kicks off the episode by introducing a brand-new prototype throw bag from Sockdolager Equipment, designed specifically with thoughtful modifications for packrafters and rafters alike. He highlights how active community involvement and viewer subscriptions help him collaborate with gear manufacturers to test and refine specialized safety equipment before it hits the open market.

The core discussion centers around a detailed question from a viewer planning a multi-day raft setup for themselves, their spouse, and two dogs. The viewer asks for a critique of a custom 15-foot Sotar ST raft featuring 22-inch oversized tubes. Zach breaks down the geometric tradeoffs of this configuration, explaining that while larger tubes significantly increase stability and reduce wrap or flip risks, they sacrifice critical interior cargo space. He ultimately advises the viewer to look at the 16-foot Wing Surge or a standard 16-foot Sotar design, sharing his long-held belief that 16-foot boats are the ideal sweet spot for private multi-day boaters to prevent getting hung up in low-water rock gardens.

The episode wraps up with a robust safety segment handling swiftwater rescue protocols. Zach discusses how to prepare first-time rafters for high-consequence river environments by analyzing proper safety talks, managing PFD flotation, and remembering structural rescue frameworks like the LUDA and SLUDA acronyms (Leadership, Stabilize, Upstream safety, Downstream safety, After/Assessment). He also outlines practical field techniques for getting un-pinned or out of a sticky hole, such as utilizing a 5-gallon bucket on a downstream rope to create hydraulic leverage.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Safety Gear: Reviewing the new prototype throw bags from Sockdolager Equipment.
• Custom Hull Design: Sizing recommendations for multi-day Sotar and Wing Inflatables models.
• Swiftwater Rescue: Understanding structural acronyms like SLUDA for river incident management.

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Custom Boats. "Is a 15-foot Sotar with 22-inch tubes a good multi-day choice for two people and two dogs?"
• Topic: Low-Water Strategy. Why do smaller rafts often sit deeper in the water column and flip or stick more frequently than 16-to-18-foot alternatives?
• Topic: Group Management. What is the best way to deliver an effective safety talk to first-time passengers on a demanding river trip?
• Topic: Hydraulic Leverage. How can a standard 5-gallon utility bucket be deployed downstream to assist a surfed or pinned raft?

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

Episode Summary

Zach kicks off the episode by introducing a brand-new prototype throw bag from Sockdolager Equipment, designed specifically with thoughtful modifications for packrafters and rafters alike. He highlights how active community involvement and viewer subscriptions help him collaborate with gear manufacturers to test and refine specialized safety equipment before it hits the open market.

The core discussion centers around a detailed question from a viewer planning a multi-day raft setup for themselves, their spouse, and two dogs. The viewer asks for a critique of a custom 15-foot Sotar ST raft featuring 22-inch oversized tubes. Zach breaks down the geometric tradeoffs of this configuration, explaining that while larger tubes significantly increase stability and reduce wrap or flip risks, they sacrifice critical interior cargo space. He ultimately advises the viewer to look at the 16-foot Wing Surge or a standard 16-foot Sotar design, sharing his long-held belief that 16-foot boats are the ideal sweet spot for private multi-day boaters to prevent getting hung up in low-water rock gardens.

The episode wraps up with a robust safety segment handling swiftwater rescue protocols. Zach discusses how to prepare first-time rafters for high-consequence river environments by analyzing proper safety talks, managing PFD flotation, and remembering structural rescue frameworks like the LUDA and SLUDA acronyms (Leadership, Stabilize, Upstream safety, Downstream safety, After/Assessment). He also outlines practical field techniques for getting un-pinned or out of a sticky hole, such as utilizing a 5-gallon bucket on a downstream rope to create hydraulic leverage.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Safety Gear: Reviewing the new prototype throw bags from Sockdolager Equipment.
• Custom Hull Design: Sizing recommendations for multi-day Sotar and Wing Inflatables models.
• Swiftwater Rescue: Understanding structural acronyms like SLUDA for river incident management.

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Custom Boats. "Is a 15-foot Sotar with 22-inch tubes a good multi-day choice for two people and two dogs?"
• Topic: Low-Water Strategy. Why do smaller rafts often sit deeper in the water column and flip or stick more frequently than 16-to-18-foot alternatives?
• Topic: Group Management. What is the best way to deliver an effective safety talk to first-time passengers on a demanding river trip?
• Topic: Hydraulic Leverage. How can a standard 5-gallon utility bucket be deployed downstream to assist a surfed or pinned raft?

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

Episode Summary

Zach begins the show by highlighting that this episode will focus on answering user questions and revisiting a video from Bedrock on the Grand Canyon. The main technical segment covers a question regarding undercut rocks and what happens when a swimmer encounters them. He notes that hazards like nasty ledge holes, weirs, trees, and sieves are also major concerns. To look at specific statistics, Zach pulls up the American Whitewater accident database to review trends regarding fatalities, highlighting that "flush drowning" represents about 19% of recorded fatalities.

The second user question comes from a viewer who purchased a 14-foot PVC Star raft from NRS for $600 and wants to know if they wasted their money, alongside asking for the best oar length for a 66-inch wide boat. Zach reassures the viewer that $600 is an incredible price for a raft, making it a very smart financial choice even though PVC boats might not have the absolute best performance or last forever. Regarding oar length, Zach reiterates his standard formula: measure the exact distance between the oar locks and multiply by 1.63. Boaters can then add or subtract half a foot depending on personal preferences like tube size, height, or shoulder width.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Safety Database: Reviewing river accident data via the American Whitewater Accident Database.
• Raft Maintenance: Assessing the value and lifespan of PVC Star rafts sold by NRS.
• Gear Customization: Calculating optimal oar lengths based on oar lock width.

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Undercut Rocks. What exactly happens when a person swims into an undercut rock, and can they get pinned like a boat?
• Topic: Boat Value. Is buying a $600 PVC Star raft directly from NRS a waste of money?
• Topic: Sizing Math. Does the overall width of a raft dictate your oar length, or does it strictly depend on the distance between the oar locks?

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

Elk River & Grand Canyon Footage | Gear Garage Live Show

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage live show, where Zach answers submitted questions and talks all things whitewater. In this episode, Zach recaps his recent experiences at Clackfest and shares advice for boaters exploring the technical coastal streams of Oregon.

Episode Summary

Zach kicks off the show with an enthusiastic review of the newly updated Clackfest, noting its recent shifts to a Friday start complete with product demos, educational classes, and a community gathering under a large event tent. Despite some heavy rain and unexpected weekend hailing, he highlights the exceptional participation across numerous multi-category river races. Zach expresses immense appreciation for the core team of volunteer planners, shuttle drivers, and gate judges who keep the historic whitewater festival running smoothly year after year.

The main technical segment addresses a question from a boater who recently relocated to Port Orford. The viewer is looking to transition from a 14-foot Sotar down to a narrower 58-inch high-side paddle cataraft to navigate local coastal streams like the Elk River. Reviewing a blog post he wrote on the run, Zach confirms that a paddle cat is an exciting option, though he cautions boaters to watch out for meaty drops and unexpected river wood. He notes that the Elk River is completely rain-fed—meaning it is typically only runnable between November and April during select windows that might total around ten days a year.

The episode wraps up with a look at historic Grand Canyon river footage, where Zach analyzes historical rowing techniques and compares modern high-performance setups with the traditional styles used in early western river running expeditions.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Events: Recapping the volunteer-run Clackfest updates and races.
• River Logistics: Reviewing the technical demands of Elk River kayaking and packrafting sections.
• Boat Choice: Discussing the agility of a paddle cataraft designs on narrow coastal creeks.

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Event Operations. What changes did the organizers implement to expand the festival schedule into Friday?
• Topic: Regional Boating. Is a 58-inch wide paddle cat suitable for handling the narrow gorges of the Elk River?
• Topic: Hydrology. How does the rain-fed nature of coastal streams limit the seasonal boating window in the Pacific Northwest?

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

Episode Summary

Zach kicks off the episode by highlighting Clackfest, the Northwest's premier annual whitewater gathering. He notes that the festival has expanded its schedule with vendor booths, gear demos, and live music kicking off early, followed by a full schedule of multi-category river races on Saturday.

The core technical discussion addresses a viewer planning a trip down Hell's Canyon who is expanding their setup with a 16-foot AIRE raft. The viewer asks about stretching an NRS Bighorn frame out to a 69-inch width, creating a 78-inch gap between the oar locks. Zach uses his standard sizing formula to calculate that this configuration requires a 10.5-foot oar. He strongly advises against mounting oar towers to the inner frame rails as a shortcut to use shorter oars, recommending instead that the viewer use temporary oar extensions on their existing 9.5-foot oars until they can purchase dedicated 10.5-foot oars.

The episode wraps up with a discussion on the ultimate boats for tackling big, technical class V whitewater like the North Fork Payette. Zach names the 12.5-foot Sotar Legend as his absolute top choice due to its perfected design, placing the AIRE Wave Destroyer as a close second, while warning that models with excessive rocker tend to feel too twitchy in heavy water.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Events: Clackfest Whitewater Festival.
• Frame Gear: Configuring an NRS Bighorn frame for wide beam rafts.
• Oar Customization: Sizing formulas and using Sawyer MXG extensions.
• Cataraft Equipment: Heavy whitewater tubes from Sotar and AIRE.

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Event Schedule. How has the layout and timeline for Clackfest changed this year?
• Topic: Frame Geometry. Is it safe or effective to mount oar towers on an inner rail to use shorter shafts?
• Topic: Oar Modifications. What are the primary drawbacks of using mechanical oar extensions in high-consequence rapids?
• Topic: Technical Boats. Why does Zach prefer the Sotar Legend over highly-rockered alternatives for big drops?

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage live show, where Zach answers submitted questions and talks shop on technical rafting. In this episode, Zach dives into the logistics of camp selection on the Middle Fork, discusses PFD innovations, and shares technical tips for raft maintenance.

Episode Summary

Zach starts the episode by highlighting the 40th anniversary of Clackamas River Festival and encouraging boaters to participate in the community races. The main technical discussion focuses on the Middle Fork of the Salmon, specifically how to navigate the camp lottery system and choose sites that accommodate larger groups and diverse frame setups.

The conversation shifts to safety gear, where Zach reviews the new NRS Vector PFD. He provides an honest critique of its flotation profile and comfort for rowers. He also answers a detailed question about raft repair, specifically how to deal with delaminating floors and when it's time to retire a vintage boat versus performing a major patch job.

The episode wraps up with a discussion on the value of subscribers for gear testing, explaining how a larger community allows him to get his hands on the newest equipment—like the NRS Vector—to provide unbiased reviews for the rafting public.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• River Logistics: Planning for Middle Fork Salmon camps.
• Gear Reviews: The NRS Vector PFD and its design features.
• Maintenance: Using Stabond adhesive for structural raft repairs.
• Community: Participating in local whitewater festivals.

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Trip Planning. "How do I choose the best camps on the Middle Fork for a 12-person group?"
• Topic: PFD Design. "Is the NRS Vector a suitable replacement for the Zen or the Green Jacket?"
• Topic: Repair. "What is the best way to fix a 12-inch floor delamination on an old Hypalon boat?"
• Topic: Channel Growth. "How do gear companies decide which influencers get to test new equipment?"

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage live show, where Zach answers submitted questions and talks all things whitewater. In this episode, Zach shares his excitement for the upcoming Clackfest and provides expert advice on identifying and maintaining vintage Avon rafts.

Episode Summary

Zach kicks off the show with an enthusiastic look at Clackfest, his favorite event of the year. This festival, now in its 40th year, is centered around the whitewater community and features twelve different types of races—ranging from R-II and R-IV rafting to SUP, kayak, and packraft events. Zach emphasizes that the Clackamas River Festival is more about community and fun than being "gnarly," making it a must-attend for boaters of all levels.

The technical heart of the episode addresses a viewer's question about identifying an older Avon raft that is missing its serial number. Zach uses his extensive guiding experience to narrow down the model and age based on physical features. He identifies a 14-foot gray self-baler with two thwarts as likely being the Avon Adventure model. He also provides a guide for dating these Hypalon rafts by their color: darker gray typically indicates the 1980s to early 90s, while lighter gray suggests the mid-to-late 90s and 2000s.

The episode concludes with practical maintenance advice for older rafts, specifically how to safely remove glued-on foot cups using solvents like toluene or mechanical means, and a brief mention of Zach's recent "rope breaking" tests to understand gear limits.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Events: Clackfest.
• Gear: Identifying vintage Avon Professional series rafts.
• Maintenance: Removing glued-on accessories from raft floors.

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Event Highlights. What makes Clackfest unique compared to other whitewater festivals?
• Topic: Boat Identification. How can you estimate the age of an Avon raft serial number without the tag?
• Topic: Raft Models. What are the primary differences between the Avon Adventure, Pro, and Super Pro models?
• Topic: Maintenance. What is the best way to remove old foot cups from a raft floor?

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage Live Show, where Zach answers submitted questions and talks all things whitewater. In this episode, Zach dives into the mechanics of counter-weighted oars, trailer organization for long trips, and provides a detailed review of the 16-foot Sotar Serge.

Episode Summary

Zach opens the show discussing counter-weighted oars, explaining how adding weight to the handle side can significantly reduce rower fatigue on long multi-day trips. He breaks down the balance point physics and why a slightly "blade-heavy" setup is often preferred over a perfectly neutral one to ensure the blades stay in the water during powerful strokes.

The conversation shifts to logistics with a segment on packing a gear trailer. Zach shares his "Tetris" philosophy for organizing rafts, frames, and dry boxes to prevent shifting during long mountain drives. He emphasizes the importance of weight distribution—keeping the heaviest items over the axle—and using high-quality cam straps instead of ratchets to protect fragile raft tubes.

Finally, Zach reviews the WING Serge, a 16-foot raft known for its aggressive tracking and stability. He compares it to other "big water" boats, noting its unique diminishing tube design which allows it to punch through holes while maintaining the flotation needed for heavy gear hauls on rivers like the Main Salmon or the Grand Canyon.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Gear Setup: Counter-weighted oar handles and balance points.
• Logistics: Trailer packing tips for multi-day river expeditions.
• Raft Review: The 16' WING Serge and its performance characteristics.
• Safety: Using cam straps vs. ratchet straps for trailer transport.

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section

• Topic: Oar Balance. "Should I add lead shot to my oar handles if they feel too heavy in the blades?"
• Topic: Boat Comparison. "How does the Sotar Serge compare to a standard 16-foot AIRE raft?"
• Topic: Transport. "What is the best way to stack multiple rafts on a flatbed trailer?"
• Topic: Rowing Technique. "Do counter-weights make it harder to 'feel' the water during technical moves?"

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

Episode Summary

Zach opens the show with a discussion on River Hardware, expressing his frustration with boaters who purchase substandard gear—often simply because they don't know better options exist. He explains that while high-quality gear may cost slightly more, it is significantly better in terms of performance and safety.

The conversation highlights several items Zach has personally vetted and imported for his store, including WWTC throw bags from Hungary and Maurice Equipment throw bags from Chile. Zach also dives into the technical superiority of Rock Exotica pulleys, noting that many other "swiftwater" pulleys fail to effectively mind prusiks, especially when used with standard throw bag ropes.

A major highlight of the episode is Zach’s advice on oar locks. He strongly advises against using NRS oar locks, arguing that their rigidity causes oars to snap. Instead, he recommends bronze oar locks from Sawyer, which provide enough "give" to allow an oar to pop out rather than break under extreme pressure.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Gear Spotlight: Rock Exotica pulleys and their technical advantages.
• Rescue Equipment: WWTC and Maurice Equipment throw bags.
• Technical Setup: Why Sawyer bronze oar locks are superior for protecting your oars.

Key Questions and Discussion Points

• Topic: Gear Quality. Why is so much "standard" river gear considered substandard by professionals?
• Topic: Pulleys. What makes a pulley truly "prusik-minding" for river rescue?
• Topic: Oar Maintenance. Should you cut down oar shafts that are too long for your frame?
• Topic: PFD Accessories. The pros and cons of externally mounted knives vs. pocket folders.

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage live show, where Zach answers submitted questions and discusses technical rafting setups. In this episode, Zach covers everything from oar tower spacing to the nuances of Wing raft fabrics, and shares a pointed "white-water vs. swift-water" perspective on rescue training.

Episode Summary

Zach kicks off the show with a shout-out to GoRafting.com, highlighting their digital river maps that work through the Far Out app. He notes that while paper maps are traditional, the ability to have GPS-located camps, updated rapid descriptions, and photos directly on your phone is a game-changer for multi-day trips like the Grand Canyon or Middle Fork.

A significant portion of the Q&A focuses on oar frame setup. Zach addresses the distance between oar towers, advising that your hands should be positioned similarly to a push-up stance for maximum rowing efficiency. He also clarifies his stance on Search and Rescue (SAR) training, explaining the difference between his expertise in "whitewater rescue" (focused on river guiding and recreational boating) and the more specialized "swiftwater rescue" used by first responders.

The episode wraps up with a technical look at raft construction, specifically discussing the fabrics used by Wing. Zach answers questions about the durability and repairability of different materials, helping boaters understand what to look for when choosing a high-performance raft.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Sponsor: GoRafting.com digital river guides.
• Training: Northwest Rafting Company's online rowing and rescue schools.
• Technical Gear: Oar tower spacing and leverage ratios.
• Raft Brands: Wing Rafts and fabric specifications.

Key Questions from the Episode

• Topic: Training. "What curriculum should a Search and Rescue unit focus on for basic swiftwater awareness?"
• Topic: Digital Maps. "Do digital maps like GoRafting have information that traditional paper guides miss?"
• Topic: Oar Setup. "How far apart should my oar towers be for effective rowing?"
• Topic: Raft Fabric. "What makes Wing fabrics different from other manufacturers?"

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage Live Show, where Zach answers submitted questions and talks all things whitewater. In this episode, Zach addresses the necessity of rescue harnesses on PFDs for rafters and highlights new online training opportunities for rowing and rescue skills.

Episode Summary

Zach begins the show by highlighting his online rowing and rescue schools. These courses are designed to provide foundational knowledge that can be difficult to find in a structured format elsewhere. While video training can never replace real time on the oars, these lessons—ranging from basic rowing to advanced class IV and V skills—offer a comprehensive and organized resource for boaters at all levels.

The main topic of the episode centers on rescue harnesses (quick-release belts) on PFDs. Following up on a previous discussion, Zach shares a viewer's comment about why many boaters wear rescue PFDs despite having little use for the actual harness. The consensus is that the highest quality materials, most durable fabrics, and most functional pockets are often only found on "rescue" models like the Astral Green Jacket. Zach compares these to non-rescue versions, such as the Astral Bowen (formerly the Blue Jacket), noting that the latter often features thinner, less durable mesh fabrics.

Zach advocates for manufacturers to offer high-quality, "pro-level" PFDs that include the best pockets and materials without the added weight and complexity of a rescue harness, which he feels can sometimes be a negative for dedicated rafters.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Training: Online Rowing School and Foundations of Whitewater Rescue.
• Gear: Comparing the Astral Green Jacket and the Astral Bowen.
• Safety: The debate over rescue harnesses for private rafters.

Key Discussion Points from this Episode

• Topic: Training. Why should boaters consider online rescue and rowing courses?
• Topic: PFD Design. Why are the best pockets and materials restricted to rescue PFDs?
• Topic: Rescue Harnesses. Is the added weight and complexity of a rescue belt worth it for a rafter?
• Topic: Gear Comparisons. What are the primary differences between "pro" and "standard" PFD models?

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage Live Show, where Zach talks shop on technical rafting setups and river safety. In this episode, Zach dives into the math behind oar length, the essential knots every boater must know, and a controversial "rant" about the dangers of rescue harnesses for most private boaters.

Episode Summary

Zach starts the episode with a technical deep dive into oar length. He explains that choosing the right oar isn't just about the width of the boat, but about the "leverage ratio" between the inboard and outboard sections. He provides a specific formula to help boaters find their "sweet spot" to avoid fatigue and shoulder injury while maintaining power in heavy water.

The conversation shifts to essential skills, specifically knots. Zach identifies the few critical knots that solve 99% of river problems, emphasizing the Bowline, the Figure 8 series, and the Taut-line hitch. He argues that mastery of a few versatile knots is far superior to having a shallow understanding of many.

The episode concludes with a serious safety discussion regarding rescue harnesses (quick-release belts) on PFDs. Zach shares his concern that many boaters wear them without ever practicing "live bait" rescues, effectively carrying a "loaded gun" on their chest. He challenges the industry to reconsider if these tools belong in the hands of anyone without professional-level training and constant practice.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Technical Skills: Essential knots for rafting and rowing.
• Gear Setup: Calculating oar length leverage ratios.
• Safety Controversy: The pros and cons of PFD rescue harnesses.

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section

• Topic: Oar Length. "How do I know if my oars are too long or too short for my frame width?"
• Topic: Knots. "What is the best knot for tying a raft to a trailer or a tree?"
• Topic: PFD Features. "Should I buy a rescue vest even if I haven't taken a swiftwater course?"
• Topic: Frame Setup. "Does oar tower height affect the leverage of my rowing stroke?"

Zach’s Key Takeaways

• The 1:2 Leverage Rule: Aim for a leverage ratio where your inboard length is roughly half of your outboard length to maximize efficiency.
• Practice the Release: If you wear a rescue harness, you must practice pulling the toggle under tension; otherwise, it’s a liability, not a safety tool.
• Knot Mastery: If you can't tie a Bowline behind your back or in the dark, you don't know it well enough yet for a high-stress river rescue.

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

Louis-Jacob Campbell Interview | Perspectives on Whitewater Rescue

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage show, where Zach sits down with Louis-Jacob Campbell, an experienced river guide and rescue instructor from Quebec currently working in New Zealand. In this episode, they dive deep into the philosophies of river safety, comparing the professional worlds of first responders and recreational boaters while discussing the essential skills every guide should master.

Episode Summary

The conversation begins with Louis-Jacob explaining the unique co-op structure of his rafting business in Quebec, New Wave Expeditions (Expeditions Nouvelle Vague), which is owned by 28 staff members. The bulk of the interview focuses on his role as a rescue instructor for Raven Rescue (the Canadian provider for Rescue 3 International) and his approach to teaching different audiences.

A major theme is the distinction between "whitewater rescue" for recreational boaters and "swiftwater rescue" (SRT) for professional first responders. Louis-Jacob notes that while the techniques are similar, the approach differs: boaters usually have a better "river sense" but need quick, on-the-fly solutions, whereas first responders often have more resources and equipment but must be taught the fundamental power of the river from scratch. They also discuss the value of keeping rescue systems simple, especially for new guides who can easily be overwhelmed by complex mechanical advantage setups.

The discussion concludes with a deep dive into gear and knots. Louis-Jacob shares his "Big Five" essential knots and explains why he prefers specific equipment, like the Palm Nevis PFD, which acts as a mobile workstation for rescue professionals.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Professional Training: Raven Rescue and Rescue 3 International.
• Outfitting: New Wave Expeditions in Quebec.
• Gear Favorites: Palm Nevis PFD and high-quality throw bags.
• Rescue Techniques: The "Pig Rig" 4:1 system versus a simple 3:1 Z-drag.

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section

• Topic: Industry Philosophy. "Is whitewater rescue separate from swiftwater rescue?"
• Topic: Essential Skills. "If you could only pick five knots for a boater to know, which ones would they be?"
• Topic: Mechanical Advantage. "If there's a boat wrapped and you only get one system, which one do you pick?"
• Topic: Safety Gear. "What is the most important piece of gear in your rescue kit?"
• Topic: Training Methods. "How valuable is training with rescue tethers (live bait) for paddlers?"

Zach’s Key Takeaways from Louis-Jacob

• Keep it Simple: For most river scenarios, knowing how to attach a rope and make a loop (like a Figure 8) allows you to solve almost any problem.
• The "Pig Rig" Advantage: Louis-Jacob prefers the 4:1 Pig Rig because it uses an external line, meaning if the boat breaks free, you don't lose all your expensive pulleys and carabiners in the river.
• Gear as a Tool: A PFD isn't just for flotation; it’s a workstation. Having a vest that can carry necessary tools comfortably is vital for a rescue professional.

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally.

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage Live Show, where Zach answers submitted questions and talks all things whitewater. In this episode, Zach discusses new one-day safety clinics, dives into the "horrible" customer service at River Hardware, and analyzes whether a 13'9" raft is suitable for multi-day trips.

Episode Summary

Zach starts the show by introducing a new concept: "a la carte" rescue instruction through Northwest Rafting Company. These one-day clinics allow boaters to focus on specific skills, like throw bags and mechanical advantage, without the time commitment of a full three-day course. He explains that building skills incrementally every year is often more effective than trying to cram everything into one long session.

A significant portion of the show is dedicated to a very honest look at his side project, River Hardware. Zach explains that because he is so busy running his main outfitting business, River Hardware offers no customer service. He addresses a viewer's frustration regarding blower adapters for Craftsman tools, explaining the challenges of designing custom parts for every brand and suggesting that those who want traditional support should shop at larger retailers like NRS.

The technical discussion shifts to raft design when a viewer asks about using a 13'9" Wing Raft for overnight trips. Zach, who has designed many boats for Wing, explains that while he loves rowing the boat for light trips, its high rocker and smaller tube size make it a poor choice for heavy multi-day loads. He offers advice on better alternatives for those looking to carry a kitchen, groover, and multiple passengers.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Training: One-day Safety Clinics at Northwest Rafting Company.
• Gear: Blower adapters for DeWalt, Milwaukee, and Makita tools.
• Raft Design: Wing rafts.

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

• Topic: Blower Adapters. "Does the DeWalt adapter work on a Craftsman blower?"
• Topic: Boat Selection. "Is a thirteen foot nine raft big enough for a multi-day trip with passengers and gear?"
• Topic: Customer Service. "Why is there no contact link for River Hardware?"

Greg McReynolds from Idaho Rivers United | The Lower Snake We Lost

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage Live Show, where we answer submitted questions and talk all things whitewater. In this episode, Zach sits down with Greg McReynolds, the Executive Director of Idaho Rivers United (IRU), to discuss the future of the Lower Snake River and the hidden rapids currently buried under its reservoirs.

Episode Summary

The conversation begins with the "permit apocalypse," as Greg and Zach share the common disappointment of being denied for major river lotteries like the Gates of Lodore. This frustration leads naturally into a discussion about unpermitted river opportunities and the massive potential of the Lower Snake River. Greg explains that IRU is heavily invested in the removal of the lower four Snake River dams to recover salmon populations in Idaho, which remains the "last best place" for salmon in the lower 48 states.

A fascinating part of the episode explores what lies beneath the current reservoirs between Lewiston and Pasco. Underneath 140 miles of stagnant water are 66 named rapids that have been submerged for half a century. Greg describes a future where those dams come down, transforming the river into a premier multi-day destination where boaters could potentially paddle from the Middle Fork of the Salmon all the way home to the Columbia River.

The episode also touches on the technical and political realities of dam removal. Greg clarifies that these dams were built with a 50-year lifespan that is now expiring, and their economic value—particularly in electricity generation—is diminishing. Unlike many other dams, these four were authorized by Congress, meaning their removal requires congressional action and a plan to replace services like barge shipping for grain with expanded rail and road infrastructure.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Conservation: Idaho Rivers United and their mission to protect Idaho's waterways.
• Geography: The Lower Snake River watershed and the impact of the four lower dams.
• Policy: The role of Congress and the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) in dam relicensing and removal.

Key Discussion Points from this Episode

• Topic: Salmon Recovery. Why are the lower four Snake River dams the most significant impediment to salmon thriving in Idaho?
• Topic: Submerged Rapids. What were some of the legendary rapids, like Lewiston Rapid and Clarkston Rapid, like before the dams?
• Topic: Dam Lifespan. How does the expiring 50-year lifespan of these structures influence the urgency for removal?
• Topic: Logistics. What infrastructure needs to be built to replace barge shipping if the dams are removed?

Zach begins the show by announcing new one-day rescue clinics offered by Northwest Rafting Company. These clinics are designed as a "palatable" way for private boaters to gain experience in specific areas like mechanical advantage and throw bags without committing to a full three-day course. He also shares a personal "safety rant," emphasizing that while some may call him a "safety squirrel," his access to non-public incident reports drives his passion for teaching rescue techniques.

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to video analysis. Zach reviews footage of a "pushing move" gone wrong, explaining why aggressive maneuvers can leave boaters exposed and sideways to obstacles. He suggests that many situations are better handled by pulling or using a "ferry" to maintain control. He also reviews a rescue scenario in flat water, cautioning against the reflexive use of throw ropes which can create dangerous tangles in the water.

The discussion also touches on gear essentials, particularly PFD selection. Zach notes that while many kayakers prefer low-profile vests for agility, rafters—especially larger individuals—benefit from higher flotation models like the Astral Indus or specific NRS rescue vests. He concludes with a reminder that professional growth in the industry requires "time on the water," recommending programs like the Class III Rowing School for those looking to build a solid foundation.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Training: Northwest Rafting Company Rescue Clinics and Class III Rowing School.
• Gear: PFD selection and the dangers of ropes in flat water rescues.
• Safety: Using your voice as a rescue tool (Speech, Reach, Throw, Row, Go).

This podcast is the audio version of the Gear Garage Live Show, where we answer submitted questions and talk all things whitewater. In this episode, Zach covers the latest digital river mapping tools for permit winners, shares critical advice for aspiring rafting outfitters, and dives into the challenges of search and rescue in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness.

Episode Summary

The show kicks off with a sobering update on a missing boater in the Illinois River area. Zach discusses the immense challenges of search and rescue in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness, highlighting how the rugged terrain, overgrown brush, and poison oak make travel incredibly difficult even for experienced hikers. He also highlights a successful boat recovery by Nature Nicole, who utilized a flip line after completing a rescue instructor course with Zach.

For those who recently scored a Middle Fork of the Salmon permit, Zach advocates for the digital river maps available through GoRafting.com. Used via the Far Out app, these maps allow boaters to see their exact mileage, upcoming camps, and real-time rapid updates—a significant advantage over traditional paper maps that can't be updated on the fly.

The core of the episode focuses on the business of guiding. Zach shares a key lesson from his mentor, Dick Linford of Echo River Trips: in outfitting, sales and marketing are everything. He explains that while many enter the industry to be on the river, owning a company is more about being a salesperson, cleaning groovers, and managing logistics than it is about daily guiding.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Digital River Maps: GoRafting.com and the Far Out App.
• Safety Spotlight: Boat recovery techniques and the Illinois River search efforts.
• Business Advice: The reality of starting and running a professional guiding company.

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

• Topic: Search and Rescue. "Do you know any details of progress on the search for the missing boat around the Illinois?"
• Topic: River Gear. "Did you see Nature Nicole's video using your flip line for a boat recovery?"
• Topic: River Navigation. "Are digital maps better than paper maps for the Middle Fork Salmon?"
• Topic: Professional Growth. "Any advice for me starting a fresh guiding business?"

Zach’s Key Business Takeaways

• Sales First: Without sales, you have a name and some boats, but you don't have a company.
• Diversity of Experience: To run truly special trips, you must see a variety of rivers and how different companies operate.
• Problem Solving: Most outfitting issues—broken trucks, closed roads—can be solved with money, which only comes if you are filling your trips.

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

Whether you’re a seasoned river guide or a recreational boater, the conversation around whitewater safety is constantly evolving. In this featured interview, Zach Collier sits down with safety expert Jim Coffey to discuss the modern state of whitewater rescue, breaking down everything from technical gear debates to the fundamental ways we approach rescue education.

Here is a summary of the key takeaways from their deep dive into the world of river safety.

Whitewater vs. Swiftwater: What’s in a Name?

One of the first topics Zach and Jim tackled was the terminology we use. While the terms are often used interchangeably, Jim notes that the industry has developed a functional split:

• Swiftwater Rescue: Typically the domain of first responders and professional rescue services.
• Whitewater Rescue: The term more commonly representative by the boating community and river professionals.

Jim emphasizes that organizations like Rescue 3 have formalized this by designing specific technician courses tailored to each group’s unique environment and gear.

The Learning Ladder: From Fundamentals to Mastery

A major theme of the interview was the methodology of rescue instruction. Jim argues that many practitioners try to jump into complex scenarios before mastering the basics. He breaks rescue education into three distinct phases:

1. Skills & Fundamentals: Similar to learning to skate before playing hockey, this phase focuses on individual proficiency in swimming, throwing, and boat handling.
2. Coaching: Once the skills are present, this phase focuses on refining them and learning how to apply them effectively as a team.
3. Expert/Specialist: At this level, training becomes scenario-driven, focusing on evaluation, judgment, and critical decision-making under high-pressure conditions.

The Gear Debate: Flotation and Rescue Harnesses

The conversation didn't shy away from technical debates regarding personal protective equipment (PPE):

• PFD Flotation: While some prefer high-flotation professional rescue vests, Jim advocates for a balance. He finds many "pro" jackets too bulky for the maneuverability needed in canoeing or kayaking, preferring high-performance vests like the Astral Green Jacket.
• Rescue Harnesses: Jim is a strong proponent of quick-release rescue harnesses but acknowledges they are advanced tools. The challenge for instructors is determining when a student is ready to move from simple techniques to using these more complex tools safely.

Frequency vs. Severity

When deciding what to teach (and what to practice), Jim uses a quadrant system to measure importance:

• High Frequency / High Severity: These are the essential skills that everyone must know because they happen often and have high stakes.
• Low Frequency / High Severity: These are the "once-in-a-career" scenarios (like complex pins) that still require rigorous training because the stakes are life and death.

Moving Toward "Educated Discourse"

Ultimately, the goal of these conversations isn't necessarily to reach a single "correct" answer. Instead, it’s about fostering civil, educated discourse. By sharing different perspectives—from European "clean line" theories to various mechanical advantage systems—the entire whitewater community becomes more versatile and, ultimately, safer.

Episode Summary

First out of the gate, Zach highlights a game-changer for river navigation: the digital river maps from GoRafting.com. These maps integrate with the Far Out app, allowing boaters to track their exact location on the river in real-time. Zach specifically recommends the "Whitewater Classics" bundle, noting that the ability to see photos of upcoming campsites and track distance to the take-out is well worth the investment.

The discussion then moves to gear, specifically the NYCE (NICE) inflatable kayaks. Zach describes these as a "mid-market" alternative to high-end models like the Sotar ATV or the Wing Jimbo. With a wider 38-inch stance and high weight capacity, these IKs are framed as a great option for bigger paddlers or those looking to pack heavy for multi-day self-support trips without breaking the bank.

The episode wraps with a deep dive into professional development. In response to a viewer asking how to grow in the outdoor industry, Zach argues that outdoor leadership is simply "leadership practiced outdoors." He shares his essential reading list, ranging from Navy captain memoirs to basketball coaching philosophies, including It’s Your Ship by Captain D. Michael Abrashoff and Eleven Rings by Phil Jackson. He also emphasizes the critical role of risk management in becoming a top-tier guide.

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

• Topic: River Navigation. "Are the GoRafting maps worth it if I already have a guidebook?"
• Topic: Inflatable Kayaks. "What is a good IK for a bigger person that can handle overnight gear?"
• Topic: Professional Growth. "What books should I read to grow as a leader in the outdoor industry?"
• Topic: Leadership. "Is there a difference between managing people in an office versus on a river?"

Zach’s Recommended Reading List

• It’s Your Ship by Captain D. Michael Abrashoff (Leadership)
• Eleven Rings by Phil Jackson (Team Dynamics)
• The Guide’s Guide by Bill McGinnis (The "Bible" of river guiding)
• Authors to follow: Tom Peters (Management) and Simon Sinek(Purpose-driven leadership)

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Zach Collier is the owner of Northwest Rafting Company and an International Rafting Federation Rafting Instructor. He has decades of river guiding and expedition experience across the American West and internationally, specializing in technical rowing and professional guide training.

In this episode of the Gear Garage Live Show, Zach answers live questions covering groover systems, raft patching and field repairs, and an impressive run of the Illinois river in a sweep boat.

Episode Summary

First out of the gate, Zach promotes Northwest Rafting Company's one-day rescue clinics. These day-long clinics have a rotating schedule of what is taught, so you can cherry-pick what you would like to learn/get practice on.

Zach talks about groover systems and camp sanitation, discussing what works well on multi-day trips and why simpler systems are often more reliable and easier to manage. Also that his favorite product is the classic Selway Groover.

The discussion moves into raft repairs and patching, including when field fixes are appropriate, how long patches realistically last, and what boaters should expect from different repair approaches. Zach emphasizes understanding your equipment and being prepared to manage small issues before they become trip-ending problems.

The episode wraps with watching an epic video a Will & Skip Volpert running a sweep boat down the notorious Green Wall rapid on Oregon's Illinois River.

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Catch every new episode of the Gear Garage Live Show by subscribing on your favorite podcast platform. For rafting trips, guide training, and expert resources, visit Northwest Rafting Company & Whitewater Guidebook.

Hosted by Zach Collier | Produced by Northwest Rafting Company

In this episode, Zach takes a deep dive into Personal Rescue Equipment (PRE), specifically focusing on the flip line. While it seems like a simple piece of webbing, there is a lot of debate around the length, the type of webbing used, and whether or not to use locking carabiners. Zach also answers viewer questions about the mechanics of righting a flipped raft and how to stay safe while doing it.

Flip Lines: The Setup

Zach starts by breaking down his personal flip line setup. The “standard” for most guides is about 10 to 12 feet of 1-inch tubular webbing.

• Tubular vs. Flat Webbing: Zach highly recommends tubular webbing. It’s easier on the hands, holds knots better, and has a higher breaking strength for this specific application.
• The Length: While 10 feet is standard, Zach discusses why taller guides or those running high-frame gear boats might prefer 12 feet to get more leverage.
• The Knot: Most guides use a simple water knot to create a loop, but Zach discusses the pros and cons of keeping it as a single line with a carabiner on one end.

The Carabiner Debate: To Lock or Not?

One of the most contentious topics in raft rescue is the carabiner on your flip line.

• Non-Locking: The argument here is speed. In a high-stress flip situation, you want to be able to clip and pull immediately.
• Locking: The safety argument is that a non-locking carabiner can accidentally “gate-load” or clip onto something it shouldn’t (like your own PFD or another rope), creating a snag hazard.
• Zach’s Take: Zach leans towards the efficiency of a non-locking gate but emphasizes that gear choice should always be dictated by your specific comfort level and the type of water you are running.

Righting the Raft

Flipping a boat back over isn’t just about strength; it’s about physics. Zach breaks down the “lean back” technique:

• High Side/Low Side: Identify where the current is pushing the boat.
• The Foot Placement: Get your feet high on the side of the tube to create a pivot point.
• The Weight: Use your body weight, not your arm strength.
• The “Pop”: For larger gear boats, Zach discusses using a second person or a “Z-drag” style setup if the boat is pinned or suctioned to the water.

Personal Rescue Equipment (PRE)

The show wraps up with a discussion on what else should be on your person. Zach emphasizes that your flip line shouldn’t be your only tool. A high-quality whistle, a reliable river knife (accessible with either hand), and a throw bag should be the foundation of your kit before you start worrying about advanced mechanical advantage hardware.

The Donner und Blitzen River

Zach highlights the "Blitzen" as one of the most elusive and rewarding high-desert runs in Oregon. Because it relies entirely on snowmelt from the Steens Mountains, the window to boat it is incredibly "flashy", often opening and closing within a matter of days. Zach emphasizes that this isn't a run for heavy gear boats; the narrow, continuous nature of the canyon requires nimble craft like small catarafts or 12-foot rafts. He notes that while the logistics are simple (no permit required), the technicality and remote location mean your team needs to be self-sufficient and ready for a "no-swim" environment.

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Catch every new episode of the Gear Garage Live Show by subscribing on your favorite podcast platform. For rafting trips, guide training, and expert resources, visit Northwest Rafting Company and the Whitewater Guidebook.

Hosted by Zach Collier | Produced by Northwest Rafting Company

Episode Summary

In this end-of-year edition, Zach tackles the nitty-gritty of personal rescue equipment (PRE), specifically nerding out on the materials and dimensions of flip lines. The show moves into a masterclass on cataraft frame setup and a high-stakes discussion on the realities of recovering heavy gear boats in swift water—a scenario Zach describes as "a marathon, not a sprint." To wrap things up, Zach clarifies the often-confused vocabulary between Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) and Personal Rescue Equipment (PRE).

Highlights

• The 5mm Flipline Debate: A deep dive into whether ultra-thin Dyneema is practical for flipping rafts. While it saves space, Zach explains why "grabbability" often trumps strength and weight.
• Cataraft Rigging Theory: Zach discusses the "center of mass" vs. "center of pivot" debate when setting up an oar frame and why your seating position should change based on whether you're pushing through big waves or dropping into technical holes.
• The "Bulldozing" Technique: When an 18-foot gear boat flips in 15 mph current, towing with a rope is often a recipe for disaster. Zach breaks down why pushing (bulldozing) the boat is safer and more effective.
• PPE vs. PRE: A vocabulary lesson for guides. PPE is what protects you (helmet, PFD, knife, whistle), while PRE is the gear used to rescue others (throw bags, pin kits, flip lines).

Technical Deep Dive: Flip Lines and Towing

Nerd-Out: Flipline Materials

A viewer asked about making a custom flip line from 5mm braided HMPE (Dyneema). While the material is incredibly strong (often stronger than the carabiners it's attached to), Zach warns that thin diameter rope is punishing on the hands. A flip line's primary job is to be grabbed under duress. Zach’s preference is a slightly wider, low-friction webbing that slides easily over carabiners for mechanical advantage systems but remains easy to grip when you're standing on an overturned floor.

The Reality of Gear Boat Recovery

Recovering a flipped gear boat in continuous, swift water (like the Alsek or certain sections of the Grand Canyon) is one of the most exhausting tasks in rafting. Zach emphasizes:

• Avoid Lines: Tying two boats together in swift current can lead to a tangled, hazardous mess.
• Downstream Safety: If a boat flips, someone needs to "bomb down" immediately to act as a catcher's mitt with a rope from shore.
• Communication: The best recovery happens during the scout. If the recovery looks brutal, talk about the plan before anyone flips.

Gear Mentioned

• River Hardware Flipline: A 14mm ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene line designed for low friction and high grabability.
• SOTAR Legend Cataraft: Discussed in the context of frame setup and how to rig for day trips vs. loaded overnights.

Episode Summary

Zach kicks off the show with a look at a new throw bag from Sockdolager, modified with 5/16" Sterling rope for a better grip—available now at River Hardware. He then tackles a deep dive into river safety, specifically why running rivers during the "first big flood" of the season is a recipe for disaster due to debris and taxed search-and-rescue resources. The episode takes a personal turn as Zach explains his unique career path from teaching engineering to owning Northwest Rafting Company, followed by an extensive technical clinic on boat selection. He compares the Wing Jumbo to the Air Outfitter 2 for the Chetco River and breaks down why an 11-foot Sotar Legend is the "sports car" of catarafts for day trips in the Pacific Northwest.

Highlights

• The "First Flood" Danger: Zach explains why he avoids first-of-the-year flood runs—new strainers, floating debris (like entire decks!), and the ethical responsibility of not taxing emergency services during active flood events.
• Engineering to Outfitting: A behind-the-scenes look at how Zach transitioned from teaching community college engineering to buying a rafting company, with a candid take on the "not-so-glamorous" side of business like accounting and permitting.
• Upper Chetco Boat Beta: Why tube diameter and boat length matter for the Chetco. Zach recommends big-tube stability (like the Wing Jumbo) over low-sitting packrafts for navigating rocky, technical drops.
• Cataract Sizing Clinic: Is a 12.6-foot cat the most versatile? Zach argues yes for multi-days, but champions the 11-foot cat for pure performance and ease of transport on PNW day runs like the Wind or White Salmon.
• Manufacturer Breakdown: A candid review of cataraft brands—why Sotar and Air lead the pack in design, while brands like Maravia still struggle with cataraft rocker and "twitchy" performance.
• R2 Class Interest: Zach discusses the possibility of bringing R2 (two-person paddling) training to Hood River and asks for listener feedback to gauge interest for a spring session.

Gear Mentioned

• River Hardware Sockdolager Throw Bag A modified version with 5/16" static Sterling rope, designed for a better "hand" than standard thin packrafting lines.
• Wing Jumbo Kayak: A square-bow inflatable kayak designed specifically for technical stability on the Chetco.
• AIRE Outfitter 2: A longer inflatable kayak compared to the Jumbo, discussed for its suitability on technical multi-days.
• SOTAR Legend Zach’s top pick for high-performance catarafts, specifically the 11-foot version. Ask for the "Creeker Version"
• AIRE Wave Destoryer: A high-performance cataraft alternative with aggressive rocker.

Related Resources

• Whitewater Guidebook – The go-to spot for submitting show questions and finding detailed river maps.
• River Hardware – Where to find the Soft Lodge throw bags and other curated rafting gear.
• Northwest Rafting Company – Information on rowing schools and guided trips.

Wrap-Up

Thanks for joining this episode of the Gear Garage Live Show. Whether you’re debating between a cataraft or a raft for your next purchase, or wondering if you should head out on that flood-stage run, Zach’s advice remains: prioritize stability, trusted partners, and the right tool for the job.

On this Friday night Gear Garage Live, Zach digs into a full batch of viewer questions about gear, boats, and how much stuff you really need to drag down the river. From minimalist multi-day setups to the realities of owning a dory, this one is all about making smarter, simpler choices on and off the water.

He also shares some honest opinions on helmets, packrafts, and winter runs in Oregon and Washington, plus a behind-the-scenes look at why show notes and transcripts aren’t as simple as they sound.

In this episode

• Finding the “sweet spot” between comfort and overloading your multi-day raft, including Zach’s minimalist kit (one dry bag, small tent, simple pad, limited shoes).
• Why some private trips feel like moving a small furniture store down the river—cots, giant Paco pads, huge chairs—and how that affects your ability to actually enjoy camp.
• Packrafts vs hardshell kayaks: when a packraft makes sense (hike-ins, big portages, exploratory creeks) and why Zach thinks using one on drive-up runs or the Grand Canyon doesn’t really add up.
• Thoughts on modern packraft designs like kayak-shaped boats and why he’s loved ultra-light decked inflatables in the past.
• Helmet talk: concerns about NRS/WRSI-style buckets, broken adjusters in far-flung places, the Virginia Tech ratings, and why—if it fits—Zach leans toward Sweet Protection lids.
• Wetsuit separates and safety: real incidents where wetsuit pants or shorts slid down and trapped swimmers, and what you can do (tight drawstrings, good fit, secure shorts) to avoid that hazard.
• Winter day-trip ideas for private boaters around Salem and the greater Oregon/Washington region, with pointers to the Whitewater Guidebook and cataraft progression articles.
• Dories and McKenzie drift boats for rivers like the Rogue, Owyhee, and Lower Deschutes—storage, trailers, group dynamics, rock hits, wrapping, and why rafts are so forgiving by comparison.
• How Zach currently handles podcast pages and show notes, and why fully detailed transcripts for every live show are a heavy lift for a “for-fun” project.

Gear & Rivers Mentioned

• Multi-day camping kits: dry bags, pads, cots, chairs, tents, and shoe strategies for guides and private boaters.
• Packrafts and light decked inflatables for hike-in missions and portage-heavy runs.
• Helmet options for big heads, including NRS/WRSI-style helmets and Sweet Protection models.
• Cold-weather layering with wetsuit pants and tops vs going straight to a drysuit.
• Oregon & Washington winter runs, including classics like the Rogue River and other regional staples highlighted on Whitewater Guidebook.
• Dories vs McKenzie drift boats vs rafts for rocky, shallow Northwest rivers and big-water classics.

Resources

• Whitewater Guidebook – Zach’s write-ups on Oregon, Washington, and California runs, plus rowing progression articles.
• Rogue River – Multi-day staple that comes up often in discussions of winter boating and dories/drift boats.
• Guidebooks like “Soggy Sneakers” and “Paddling/Kayaking Oregon” for more winter run ideas around Salem and beyond.

If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re bringing way too much stuff, if a dory is really the next boat you need, or how worried to be about your wetsuit pants, this episode is for you.

Intro

In this episode of the Gear Garage Live Show, Zach checks in from Bangkok on his way to Bhutan and dives into winter rafting on the Rogue River, dialing in oar length for wide boats, and how to think about whitewater rescue courses. He also shares thoughts on oar tethers and how they can help keep you in the boat when things get spicy.

Episode Summary

Zach starts with a behind-the-scenes look at NWRC’s Bhutan cultural and paddling trips, then answers questions about late-fall and winter rafting on the Rogue River. He walks through his oar length equation (distance between oarlocks × 1.63) using a Highside Pro-XT and Sawyer MX-LG oars as a real-world example, and explains why frame width and seat height matter as much as the math. The conversation wraps with custom oar tethers, the Oar Snubber concept, and why “whitewater rescue” for boaters is different from traditional “swiftwater rescue” for first responders.

Highlights

• Bhutan trips overview: nine-day hotel-based itineraries, three efficient half-day rafting runs, and a more expedition-style option with a three-day overnight through a national park.
• Why the Rogue is such a great late-November and winter river, and why Zach often suggests Grave Creek to Foster Bar for shorter, colder days.
• Winter rafting essentials: drysuit vs wetsuit, layering for comfort, and campsite systems with solid tents, tarps, and legal campfires.
• Deep dive on oar length: how Zach derived the 1.63 oar length multiplier, why many frames push people toward oars that are too short, and why 12' oars are rarely practical.
• Frame design critique for wide boats like the Highside Pro-XT—high captain’s chairs, wide towers, and how they affect rowing geometry and leverage.
• Custom oar tether solutions, including Larry’s strap-based system and the Oar Snubber bungee idea to keep oars engaged and rowers in the boat.
• Whitewater vs swiftwater rescue: why boaters benefit more from river-running focused “whitewater rescue” courses taught by experienced guides and private boaters.

Gear Mentioned

• Highside Pro-XT 16' raft and recommended frames.
• Sawyer MX-LG oars (11'–12' discussion and limitations).
• Dry suits, wetsuits, fleece layers, and cold-weather river footwear.
• Three-season tents, tarps, and fire setups for wet, cold camps.
• RMR Fat Cat with oar frame and custom oar tethers.
• Oar Snubber-style bungee tether concepts for keeping oars in play.

Related Resources

• Rogue River – NWRC’s overview of the Rogue and trip options.
• Rogue River Guide – rapid descriptions, logistics, and flows.

Wrap-Up

Thanks for hanging out for another Gear Garage Live session. If you’re dreaming about winter on the Rogue, dialing in your oar length, or maybe heading to Bhutan, this episode will help you think through safety, comfort, and boat setup so you can enjoy the river season all year long.

Connect with Us

Catch every new episode of the Gear Garage Live Show by subscribing on your favorite podcast platform. For rafting trips, guide training, and expert resources, visit Northwest Rafting Company and the Whitewater Guidebook.

Hosted by Zach Collier | Produced by Northwest Rafting Company

In this episode of the Gear Garage Live Show, Zach dives into rescue education for both guides and private boaters, explores the world of hard-to-find pins and clips, and answers questions about rowing progression when you don’t live near a river. He also shares thoughts on Rally Crew, community-building, and how to keep learning after a Class III rowing school.

Episode Summary

Zach opens with a look at NWRC’s expanded rescue curriculum, including the Rescue 3 Whitewater Rescue Technician course for guides and the Class III Safety & Rescue Clinics designed specifically for private boaters. From there, the show slides into a deep gear rabbit hole—comparing old-school Klaviy-style pins and clips, discussing DIY stirrup options, and talking through why certain sleeves just don’t cut it. The episode wraps with progression advice for boaters in gear-limited states, plus new ways to connect with paddlers through Rally Crew and regional instructors.

Highlights

• The difference between guide-focused WRT courses and private-boater rescue clinics—and why prevention is at the core of whitewater rescue.
• One-day “à la carte” rescue workshops covering mechanical advantage, entrapments, throwbag skills, and swim practice.
• What to know about pins and clips, why Zach prefers ball-style tops, and why floppy stirrups are a liability.
• DIY stirrup options (cutting from old kayaks, 3D-printed end caps) and why a well-sized hard stirrup matters.
• Progression advice when you don’t have a local river: boat ownership, travel, repeat courses, and finding community.
• Where to find instruction outside the West Coast—including Canyon River Instruction and Daniel Stillman's new Wolf Creek Whitewater program.

Gear Mentioned

• Pins & clips (ball-top and rubber-cap styles), stirrups, PVC sleeves, and Oar Snubber.
• NRS oar towers, sleeves, and why Zach often avoids stock plastic options.
• Boat choices for progression: 13' rafts for day trips or 16' boats for full overnight setups.

Related Resources

• Whitewater Guidebook – Ask a question, river beta, and rescue articles.
• NWRC Rescue Courses – Guide WRT Pro and Class III Safety & Rescue Clinics.
• NWRC – Rowing School details and upcoming workshops.

Wrap-Up

Thanks for tuning in! Whether you’re hunting for rare pins and clips, exploring new rescue education, or figuring out how to keep progressing without a local river, this episode offers practical next steps for safer, more confident boating.

Connect with Us

Catch every new episode of the Gear Garage Live Show by subscribing on your favorite podcast platform. For rafting trips, guide training, and expert resources, visit Northwest Rafting Company and the Whitewater Guidebook.

Hosted by Zach Collier | Produced by Northwest Rafting Company

Today's discussion is with Zach Collier, Aaron Cavagnolo and Mark Hirst.

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In this episode of the Gear Garage Live Show, Zach digs into the growing focus on whitewater rescue training for rafters, breaks down a viewer’s Cherry Creek catboat run, and answers questions about beaver boards, dance floors, and GoPro mounting. Along the way, he explains why different boating communities need different rescue curricula and shares practical tips for setting up a gear-friendly frame system.

Episode Summary

Zach opens with a deep dive into the difference between traditional “swiftwater rescue” for first responders and the type of whitewater rescue that rafters, guides, and private boaters actually need. He explains how NWRC is separating guide-focused Rescue 3 courses from private-boater Class III Safety & Rescue Clinics to deliver better outcomes. The episode then shifts into a catboat video review from California’s Cherry Creek—highlighting oar shipping, downstream hazards, and why catboats can be both forgiving and deceptive. Additional questions touch on beaver board construction, marine-grade plywood, handling sketchy rescue situations, and Rivtech-style experimental raft designs.

Highlights

• Why mixing guides, firefighters, agency staff, and private boaters into one rescue course produces poor outcomes.
• How NWRC differentiates whitewater rescue for guides vs private boaters—and why prevention is the heart of safety.
• Cherry Creek breakdown: oar shipping, Miracle Mile timing, risky swim lines, and where catboats forgive bad angles.
• How Zach mounts his GoPro using a SUP paddle and handlebar clamp for stable rafting shots.
• Beaver boards and dance floors: marine-grade plywood, alternatives, and why regular plywood works for most private boaters.
• Evaluating Rivtech-style rafts and other “bathtub” hull experiments in modern whitewater design.

Gear Mentioned

• SUP paddles and GoPro handlebar mounts.
• Marine-grade and standard plywood for beaver boards.
• Pins and clips, oar rights, and catboat frame setups.
• Experimental hulls like Rivtech drop-stitch rafts.

Related Resources

• NWRC Rescue Courses – Whitewater rescue for guides and private boaters.
• Whitewater Guidebook – Submit questions, find river beta, and explore safety articles.

Wrap-Up

Thanks for tuning in! Whether you’re curious about rescue training, working on your frame setup, or studying lines on Cherry Creek, this episode offers practical insight to help you stay safer and sharper on the river.

Connect with Us

Catch every new episode of the Gear Garage Live Show by subscribing on your favorite podcast platform. For rafting trips, guide training, and expert resources, visit Northwest Rafting Company and the Whitewater Guidebook.

In this Gear Garage Live Show, Zach shares why he’s all-in on boater-focused rescue courses, breaks down low-water Middle Fork and Main Salmon decisions, and digs into the science of oar length and boat setup. Along the way he talks about gear minimalism, clean water systems, and choosing the right raft for Northwest rivers and overnight trips.

Episode Summary

This episode starts with an update on Zach’s new rescue courses designed specifically for whitewater rafters and kayakers, from private boater classes on the Clackamas to professional guide trainings on the Hood River. He reviews the film “Just Get a Kayak,” then answers detailed questions on deadheading the Middle Fork Salmon at low water, IKs on the upper miles, and how to balance group comfort with light boats. Zach also covers pushing vs pulling heavy rigs, choosing raft sizes for runs like the Clackamas, White Salmon, and Wind, and explains his go-to oar length formula so boaters can avoid expensive guesswork.

Highlights

• Why Zach built separate rescue curriculums for private boaters and professional guides, and what those courses look like on the Clackamas and Hood River.
• Thoughts on the “Just Get a Kayak” film and why authentic river storytelling beats self-promo edits.
• Middle Fork Salmon low-water strategy: deadheading, respecting the trip leader, and packing light for the top miles.
• When to push vs pull in shallow technical rapids, how tracking changes with heavy gear boats, and why it’s so situational.
• Balancing creature comforts vs work: why Zach leaves chairs and extra shoes at home to keep boats light and camp simple.
• Oar length made simple: distance between oarlocks × 1.63 (± 0.5 ft), plus frame width, tower height, and seat position mistakes to avoid.

Gear Mentioned

• Rescue gear for boaters (throw bags, swim practice, flip drills, foot entrapment scenarios).
• Rafts for Northwest classics: ~14–15 ft rafts from brands like Wing, SOTAR, Avon, and NRS for rivers such as the Clackamas, White Salmon, and Wind.
• Oars and frames: 9–10 ft oars for 13–14 ft boats, double-rail frames, proper oar tower height (8–9") and avoiding oversized captain’s chairs.
• Clean water systems: traditional water jugs treated with Aqua Mira versus newer pressurized filters like the LifeStraw 5-gallon system.
• Sleeping systems: Therm-a-Rest style pads vs bulkier paco pads and why going light keeps trips easier.

Related Resources

• Rogue River – Classic multi-day trip for refining rescue and rowing skills.
• Rogue River Guide – Rapid descriptions, permits, and trip planning info.
• Northwest Rafting Company Trips – Commercial trips and instructional courses with NWRC.
• Whitewater Guidebook – River beta and resources for private boaters.

Wrap-Up

Thanks for tuning in to this episode of the Gear Garage Live Show. Whether you’re eyeing a Middle Fork Salmon low-water trip, rethinking your gear load, or trying to finally solve the oar length puzzle, Zach hopes this helps you make smarter, safer choices on the river.

Connect with Us

Catch every new episode of the Gear Garage Live Show by subscribing on your favorite podcast platform. For rafting trips, guide training, and expert resources, visit Northwest Rafting Company and the Whitewater Guidebook.

Hosted by Zach Collier | Produced by Northwest Rafting Company

Today's Show!

• Answer Questions
• River Hardware Flip Line

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Secure Backrest

Help! I can get my backrest setup properly on a 4-bay oar frame on a 16er. We have Watershed Colorado Bags. The front bay has a table across it with the paco pads on top. No matter what I try they don’t stay in place. They tend to slide back, interfering with the rower.

Today's Show!

• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Safety Coverage

Canyon section of the South Fork Payette at 4900cfs (Summer). Commercial trip with one raft (2 guides, 5 customers) and one safety kayak. No other boats on the river.

Is that an adequate safety setup?

Topic: Tiny Rafts

This may be a random question, but I have been watching your videos for quite some time now and love the magnetic small rafts you use in your videos. I have been looking all over for them and have come up short. Did you make them / have them 3d printed? Or did you purchase them somewhere?

Thank you for all you do for the whitewater community.

Topic: Rowing School Prep

Been down the Lower Rogue many times over the last 20 years, but mostly in IKs or on the front of someone else's boat. I've had a 14ft Sotar for a few years know and have rowed on the Upper and the Owyhee, but not the lower. I've enrolled for the Class III Rowing School starting Aug 26th, but my buddies asked if I would be the 2nd boat on a raft supported hike trip Aug 3-7. My original plan was to row with y'all before putting that burden on any other boater. However, my skills are getting there (oar shipping, reading water, downstream ferrying) and I wonder if I should help these guys out, plus it'll give me some prep before Rowing School. Should I hit Galice to Graves a bunch to practice technical lines in Argo, or what would you advise?

Topic: Stern Mount Frame Specs

Hi Zach! Josh from Chattooga here. I came across Gear Garage episode 155 on stern mount frames. I like the last frame you demonstrated, the slant board design that can be mounted center or stern.
We paddle guide here but I enjoy rowing in my free time. I plan to build a custom frame for a 13' or 14' raft and was wondering if you can pass along the specs for that frame. Any tips or drawings would be super helpful.
I'm pretty tall like you and I think it would suit me and the raft perfectly. There's a local welder's shop that I'll be taking the design to.
Thanks in advance. Have a great day!

Today's Show!

1. Public Lands
2. Answer Questions
3. Ecuador Courses

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Boat Spacing

What is considered good boat spacing in low water runs when giving space for crux moves.

Is it the same in high-water crux moves?

Topic: September MF

Hey Zach, big fan of the channel!

My friend has a permit for the Middle Fork of the Salmon on September 3rd, and I’m wondering—what do you think the river will be like around then? Would love to hear your thoughts.

Today's Show!

1. Answer Questions
2. Middle Fork Beta

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Rope!

Say I'd like to put together something I hope I never need. I have some gear, but I'm wondering what kind of rope you would recommend for a Pin kit. I know you guys are swamped this time of year, so no worries if you don't respond.

Topic: Blower Adaptor

Any beta on if the Makita or Milwaukee adaptor fits the cheap K. I. M. O leaf blower? I’m bleeding money on raft gear, Trying to save where I can.

Topic: Two Rowing Questions

I’m a complete newbie, trying to understand some of the major dos and don’ts as I gain entry-level experience rowing a raft. I’ve heard two things from multiple people, and I’d love to get your take:

“Never exceed 45 degrees to the current”
I understand how this can be safe advice for a beginner, but obviously, there are times you need to break this rule for certain maneuvers. Are there situations where being 90 degrees to the current is okay, and others where it’s a definite no? I get that if there’s an object downstream, the last thing you want is to hit it broadside — so staying at 45 degrees makes it more likely you’ll hit bow-first instead of getting hung up sideways. But in your videos, I see a lot of ferrying at greater than 45 degrees or even rowing at 90 degrees to the current. When you’re 90 degrees to the current, is there concern that water hitting the upstream side of the raft could flip it?

Flipping at eddy lines
I’ve heard a few horror stories of people flipping when they hit eddy lines — no rocks, no holes, just a fast eddy line that flipped them. But in your videos, you show catching eddies by pushing and pulling, and it always looks smooth. What would someone have to do wrong to flip in that situation instead of catching the eddy cleanly, like you do? The stories I’ve heard don’t involve getting pinned or hitting an obstacle — just the eddy line itself. And honestly, the eddy lines you cross in your videos look just as strong or stronger than what they’re describing.

Thanks for your time — I know that’s a lot to unpack!

Topic: Used Rafts?

I did a trip with you a couple years ago down the Rogue River and loved it. I live up in Roseburg and am trying to find a used raft and oar rig setup. I’d like to do your Class III training trip next summer.

I’m curious if you have any rafts that you’re looking to get rid of? I live on the Umpqua River and would like to start rafting it and learning.

Ask a question for next episode

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic:River Advocacy

While it’s not Jimmy Carter on the Middle Fork rafting in jeans, it’s a U.S. senator doing some on site work about the conditions at the take out of Cataract Canyon.

Check out This Article.

This is a reminder that boaters at any level of skill/experience can make mistakes and get stuck. It also is a reminder that there are members of congress who will actually look into some matters as it pertains to rivers and river access. If these places matter to us, we need to let our representatives know each year and support organizations that will lobby on behalf of the rivers.

Not really a question, but a good topic and a cool video of the rescue. The gear retrieval seemed like it was quite a project too, according to the article.

Topic: Middle Fork

Hey we are headed out on the Middle Fork on the 29th.
I was just wondering what you thought about the rapids that have changed from the main descriptions?

• Velvet?
• Ramshorn?
• Others?

The level will probably be about 2.5 or so if the forecast holds.

In particular can we still go left at velvet? I’ve seen video at low water of right side runs.

Anything you can add will be appreciated.

We plan to scout Pistol and maybe Lake Creek (thoughts).

With Chris Davis MD

• Article Mentioned
• The Seal Rite CPR mask

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

1. The Perfect Paddling Fleece
2. Answer Questions
3. Grand Canyon Flip Video

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: New Middle Fork

My husband Harry is organizing a Middle Fork trip that puts in July 11. He has some questions about how the rapids in the upper section have changed since he last ran it in 2021. He was looking at your write-up on Whitewater Guidebook from 2023: Can you provide more info about the current situation?

Topic: Dynamic rescue situations and rash decisions

On a recent trip (all rafts w/ gear) we had a rower flip in the last wave of a rapid. There was a very short stretch of slack water before the next rapid. The next boat through was running tight and yelled out for the swimmer to swim to them. They very quickly got to her and pulled her from the water. The rower of the second boat then jumped out of his boat leaving the rescued swimmer to take his oars. He climbed onto the upside down boat, flipped it back over and climbed back on. It took him precious time to get the oars situated and be able to row through the next rapid, but literally came within seconds of going sideways over a nasty pour over at the very top of the rapid.

Topic: Reducing Strainer Hazards on Flooding Rivers

I live along a small continuous class II/III river in SW Colorado.
Recently, runoff and flood waters have made the river fun and deep enough to run. River-wide strainers are a part of the process. Throughout the years a few of us in the local boating community have worked to remove them or inform people of their locations.

We generally approach strainers of different types on a case-by-case basis. Normally we cut manageable chunks of wood out and remove them from the river as well as the branches. We let the unsafe and unmanageable pieces go and hope it floats away (four-foot pieces).

Topic: R2 on the North Yuba

We ran two r2 boats on North Fork Yuba from Goodyear bar on the Maytag run on June 3rd, 2025. The lead boat got surfed, and we were a bit close. We pursued the swimmer. I had a question about whether we should attempt to bump our friend out of the hydraulic or try to miss him. We hit his boat, but it didn't help him much, and we almost lost our line. I thought you would have some idea about this. Usually, we would grab an Eddie and try to get a line, but a swimmer was running downstream, and we decided we better pursue him first.

Love your show and enjoy the weekly work you do to promote safety in white water rafting,

Topic: Main Salmon River

Hello Zach, I have been a big fan of your video trip reports for a long time now and I have noticed you have not made any videos on the Main Salmon River from Corn Creek to Carey Creek.

Is there a certain reason for this ? I would love to know thanks

Topic: Places to Raft

What are the top 5 states to go rafting in the U.S. and also top places in South America, Europe and Asia?

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Oar Length

I used your 1.63 oar formula and determined I should be running 9' oars, not my current 8.5 oars. I'm not sure how I ended up at 8.5 - I've had them for 5+ years and used some long-lost formula to arrive at that length, but trust your method more. The boat is a Hyside Pro 13.5, but as your video states, length and tube size don't really matter - it's the width between the oarlocks.

1. How much power do you feel I'm giving up if I leave as is? I handle oars well, have been boating for 40+ years - and mostly run the Rogue, Deschutes, Main and - if I can ever get on it - the MF.

I see you're doing "row-your-owns" on the MF, I may have to consider that as permits remain elusive and I'm not getting any younger.

Topic: Middle Fork of the Salmon - Camps

What camp do you think is the best at high water for a small group?

Topic: 15'-16' Raft

I was curious if you were still recommending the wing and hyside or if you have other boats or brands that you recommend. I’m looking for a 15 or 16 foot boat for myself, wife and three kids. Also wondering if you guys happen to have any boats for sale?

Topic: Renting V. Buying

One other question I’m considering is renting vs buying a used setup as a beginner and trying to figure out all the things to consider when making the decision.

Topic: Beginner Rowing Instruction

I live in Portland and am a beginner looking to get into rowing whitewater.

I’m hoping to get some instruction soon so I can be out on the river this summer. Are there any businesses you’d recommend for learning to row?

In this episode of Safety First with Danger Tate, we dive into a conversation with Elisha McArthur, co-founder of Canyon River Instruction and Worldwide Women of Whitewater. Elisha shares how she’s helping to reshape the river scene through education, empowerment, and connection as well as the story behind creating a global community for women in whitewater sports.

In this episode, we cover:

• How Elisha’s personal journey led her to co-found Canyon River Instruction
• Building inclusive communities in adventure sports
• Practical tips for getting started in whitewater
• Safety tips for private boaters
• The origins and mission of Worldwide Women of Whitewater
• The challenges and opportunities women face in paddlesports

This is an inspiring listen for private and commercial boaters, instructors, outdoor enthusiasts, advocates for equity in sport, or anyone curious about the power of community in wild spaces.

More Resources

Elisha stars in a new short film called River Mamma that can be found here. It is a "tribute to motherhood—honoring the strength it takes to nurture others while staying true to your own passions."

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Rescue Courses
• D-Ring Testing
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Pinned Kayak Rescues

A few days ago I was involved in my 2nd rescue of a person in pinned kayak. Both incidents were very similar. They happened at low water in relatively easy rapids (class III-), but created very dangerous situations. The kayakers could not safely wet exit because their kayak was perpendicular to the current and their head was upstream. Luckily their heads were above water, but this easily could have not been the case.

As a rafter, I did my best in handling these situations. I was the 1st on the scene and followed my training by first asking if they were stable so I could decide if we could take our time or if we needed to get them out ASAP. Both rescues were a success, but I am left wondering if there are some key fundamentals it would be good for both rafters and kayakers to understand here. The 2 swiftwater rescue courses I have taken focused too much on how to get empty boats unpinned and not enough on pinned kayaks with people in them.

This is probably too much to answer on the spot, but perhaps would make a good video after you thought about it some more.

Topic: Deflating Tubes for Stuck Boat

Love the show. I am a better/safer boater because of your show and your videos.

I was recently stuck hard (semi-submerged) on a relatively small rock. I needed to stay in the boat for safety… I deflated tubes as part of working the boat off the rock.

Is there an order to deflate in? IE - highside tube first? Or do you deflate them all a little and see what happens? Thanks.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Answer Questions
• River Rescue Gear at River Hardware

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Highwater Middle Fork of the Salmon

I'm invited on a MFS trip June 10. Super psyched! The trip leader wants to cap the trip at 5 feet, but I bet it will be higher. I'm pushing for a careful safe trip, even if higher than 5 feet. I feel up to the challenge 100%. The crew is solid. Any thoughts on flows and wisdom of going? I hate the idea of the permit being canceled. Thanks!

Topic: Guide Shoes

What about guides wearing Chacos... Do you have any thoughts about that?

Topic: Rope Selection

You've covered a lot on static line length and diameter on your previous videos, and I'm curious to hear more about material and buoyancy.

On whitewater gear you offer the sterling super static 2 rope, but I don't believe that's a high floating material, and is quite a bit heavier without being stronger than some other equivalent 3/8" ropes like ultra line.

Can you review a bit more on rope design/materials vs use in whitewater rescue applications? Sterling looks to be the standard in ropes, and their ultra line appears like the best overall option for weight/strength vs flotation. Only downside I can see is that ultra line is not available in sizes other than 1/4" and 3/8" if someone needs 11mm or larger.

Topic: 18' Raft Owyhee

What's your low flow cutoff for getting a medium to lightly loaded 18' raft down the Lower Owhyee? I'm able to make technical moves just not interested in getting high centered or squeezed all the time and having to get out to shove a whole bunch. Nuisance rapid for instance. Does an 18' even fit between boulders at flows less than 1K CFS? I'm 5 days out from launch and flows have been very slowly dropping, currently around 1300 CFS to 1400 CFS with no major precip in forecast.

Motoring out and my 18' has the registration. Have a smaller raft with fishing frame and registration but its not rigged to motor and would like to avoid that hassle of frame changeover and assembly if possible. Thanks for your insights!

Topic: IK Safety

Thanks for this channel; it is an excellent resource for people like me who are new to rafting. Two buddies and I took the NWRC Class III rowing school last year, which was awesome. The Lower Salmon was one of the rivers the instructors recommended as a good first private trip, so we are planning a multi-day trip with our families on the Lower Salmon in mid-July. We will have three rafts.

We have several high school kids in our group. I am considering bringing two or three inflatable kayaks for them to use if they want more excitement than riding in the rafts. Everyone will be in helmets and PFDs. The kids are strong swimmers and comfortable in the water. I have three questions:

1. Where should we put the IKs in the group? I am thinking between the middle and last raft as that would leave two downstream rafts in case they swim.
2. Would having three IKs in the water at one time be too many given we only have three rafts?
3. Could you talk about how trip leaders monitor IKs on your commercial trips.

In this episode of Safety First with Danger Tate, Tate sits down with Joe Daly, the co-founder of the groundbreaking rafting company, Echo River Trips. Founded in 1972, Echo rapidly expanded to run trips across 19 river stretches in five U.S. states and even Yugoslavia by 1981. Joe shares the story behind the creation of Echo, providing insight into the adventurous spirit and entrepreneurial drive that fueled the company’s early success.

Throughout their conversation, Joe reflects on his personal journey from river guide to business owner, and the lessons he learned along the way. He discusses his early decision to focus on rafting over kayaking, how his partnership with co-founder Dick Linford was formed, and the unique challenges and rewards of pioneering commercial river trips in the 1970s and 1980s. Joe also touches on the importance of community, resilience, and environmental stewardship within the river-running world.

Listeners will enjoy Joe's candid storytelling, from the practical aspects of building a river business to the philosophical lessons the river teaches. Whether you’re an outdoor enthusiast, an entrepreneur, or someone who appreciates a good adventure, Joe’s stories offer timeless wisdom on leadership, passion, and the unpredictable currents of life.

Main Discussion Points:

• The founding story of Echo River Trips and its early expansion
• Joe Daly’s personal journey and decision to specialize in rafting
• Key lessons learned from running a river outfitting business
• Reflections on teamwork, partnership, and community in outdoor leadership
• The enduring influence of river life on personal and professional values

Joe's Latest Project

Joe has been editing a book called Stories of a Western Wildhood, full of short stories written by his business partner, Dick Linford. The book was just published and you can find it here.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Answer Questions
• Middle Fork Trip Planning Blog

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Oar Length (For a Specific Situation)

What’s the best oar length for running Class II rapids in a 15'6" long Stryker inflatable boat? The boat has a 60-inch span, a 6'2" wide beam, and a 160-pound outboard motor on the stern. I plan to use it occasionally as a drift boat. For longer, deeper, easy-going sections, I’ll use the motor to go back upstream and re-fish, or to get through slow, deep, unfishable water. Thanks!

Topic: IK for Extended Trips

I've been using an Aquaglide touring IK for Class III/IV trips—our last was on the Lower Salmon—and after spending days sitting in water, I know it’s time for an upgrade. I recently picked up a Star Outlaw II for my son, but so far it's only seen flatwater. We’ve got some whitewater trips planned for June and July, and I’d love some advice for my new IK. I’m super torn between a few options.
In order of interest:

• Star Outlaw II — I like the 5 chambers, drop-stitch floor, and the price point, plus the reviews are solid. But I hate the lack of anchor points for gear—had to glue some on for my son.
• AIRE Outfitter II — Tons of great reviews, nice bow kick, and it has good gear loops. But it's pricey, and I’m worried I’ll be sitting in water again with that floor.
• AIRE Lynx II — Same pros and cons as the Outfitter.
• Corran Tandem — I like that it handles big water, but I think I’d hate it on flatwater.
• RMR Taylor vs Animas — The price is right and what I’ve found so far is positive, but reviews are way fewer compared to NRS stuff.

I’m 6’2”, around 300 lbs (currently cutting weight), and I need an IK that can support me on a 5-night trip. Also curious about the NRS Riffle—it looks durable and capable.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• GoRafting.com Maps
• Answer Questions
• May 4th Illinois Trip

Today's Questions:

Topic: Raft Pressure

I’d love to hear your thoughts on air pressure for rafts. How do you know when it’s right?

What do you think about those digital air pressure caps, like the TRiB brand ones NRS sells? I know you should let some air out when driving over mountain passes or when the boat's sitting in the sun to prevent blowouts.

But other than that, how important is it to get the air pressure just right on the water? Thanks, and keep up the good work!

Topic: Tech Support

Hi Zach! Love the show, great content!

I’m filming our Main Salmon trip this year with a GoPro. What do you use—or what have you heard of—to merge and edit GoPro clips into one seamless video with text and music?

I need something old-guy friendly, since I’m not super tech-savvy.

Got any tips or tricks you’ve learned from your own experience? Thanks!

Topic: Dish Bucket Water

Love the show, thank you for keeping this up. I always look forward to the Tuesday show and any other reviews, testing or other topics you cover.

For getting rid of dish water, different rivers have different rules. My understanding is that for high-volume rivers, it's better to dispose of strained dishwater into the river. For smaller rivers (Smith, MFS), you're supposed to disperse the water above the high water line and away from camp. For low use camps, I guess this could make sense, that eventually the rain will do it's thing and it'll soak into the ground. For desert trips or popular camps, this just seems like a recipe for attracting pests. Even if you could strain every bit of food, there's still going to be oils and dissolved sugars which will get tossed on the ground.

Maybe my concept of how much oil/sugar/small stuff gets left behind is wrong. I'm assuming these rules have science/research behind them. Any thoughts or ideas on this?

Today's Show!

• Ask a question on the next live show
• Spring Rogue Rowing School

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: River Hazards

I can’t really immediately see a sieve on the river or most of the time from river side either or on videos really. I get it when it’s pointed out. Same with undercuts . I see them when it’s pointed out and understand but it’s not always obvious to me even after the fact. Makes me nervous . Don’t want to be overly paranoid but need to know for safety sake. What’s your process of identifying these kinds of hazards when you’re scouting? Happy boating and stay safe out there.

Topic: PFD knife storage

Can a sheath knife be fitted Inside the exterior knife pocket on a pfd? (eg the Palm Nevis, Astral Indus)

As to my mind this is the optimal kayak set up. Instant deployment, no snag hazard.

Topic: Permits and Bots

With as difficult as it to obtain coveted river permits, I struggle with what’s fair or not fair with regards to obtaining a permit with the help of a bot. Do you have any thoughts or feedback on using bots to secure river permits?

Ask a question on the next live show

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: 40k Rogue

Hi, Zach. Hope things are well How was the Wind Race?

Some AW staff and Board and families were planning to paddle the Rogue April 6-8 after the Board meeting.

But it looks like the flow forecast shows 40k. Thoughts on the Rogue at high flows?

Topic: High Float PFD

Hope you are well. Not sure you remember me, I have done a Rogue rowing school and a regular Rogue trip with NWRC (though it was some time ago). You have also been kind enough to answer a couple of questions for me and I think my son, Nathan, has been in touch with you once or twice.

I have another question, if I may. Many years ago you answered my question on a recommendation for a PFD, you recommended the Kokatat Maximus. I have had two of them and since I am typing this email they have both done their job perfectly! Sadly both the second Maximus and I are getting long in the tooth. I think it may be time to up my flotation.

Doing a bit of looking, there seem to be two out there that have 22 lbs of floatation, NRS big Water Guide and the Astral Indus. I vaguely recall you were not a big fan of NRS PDF's (I could be 100% wrong on that and please feel free to correct me if I am) and I do seem to prefer the Astral. Though the rescue harness is a little unnecessary for me to have since I could not imagine any situation being improved by me being live bait.

If you have any thoughts on these two or any others it would be greatly appreciated.

Topic: Mustang Dry Suit

I saw your video on dry suits and I’m curious what you think about Mustang’s newish neoprene necked drysuit?

They seem to claim that it’s dry, I have issues with tight neck gaskets and am considering giving it a shot. Curious if you have tried it or have any thoughts.

Topic: River Trip Roster

One idea for a future YouTube segment: How to assemble the right crew for your next private river trip. Personalities, skills, chores, kids/no kids, shared goals, etc. I've been fortunate to be on some great Grand Canyon and Salmon trips and it's been thanks to strong vision and leadership from permit holders / trip leaders.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Answer Questions
• Upper Wind Whitewater Festival

Today's only Question:

Topic: Rowing “Lesson”

I’m a seasoned paddler and have many years on the sticks. Comfortable in IV.

My question is do you offer an option to boat with, or lead a fella down a new section of water? - Call it a private lesson?

Thanks!

Get ready for an exciting episode of Safety First with Danger Tate! This time, Tate sits down with whitewater legend Mark Singleton. With 18 years as the executive director of American Whitewater and a lifetime of outdoor adventure, Mark has seen it all—especially when it comes to Gauley Fest.

Join us as we dive into:

• Mark’s journey in river conservation and his longtime involvement with American Whitewater.
• The history and impact of Gauley Fest, the largest whitewater festival in the world.
• Wild and unforgettable festival stories from years past.
• The role of river advocacy and why protecting these waterways matters.

Whether you're a festival veteran or dreaming of your first Gauley Fest experience, this episode is packed with stories, insights, and plenty of river stoke!

Organizations to Support:

American Whitewater – Dedicated to protecting and restoring America’s whitewater rivers. Learn more and support their mission by following the link.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• GoRafting.com Maps
• Upper Wind Whitewater Festival
• Answer Questions
• Leaving Eddies as a Group

Today's only Question:

Topic: SUPing John Day

I found you through a web search that lead to an article about a John Day trip, so wanted to see if you do any SUP trips on the John Day or other rivers in the Pacific Northwest? Also, do you do any private or group whitewater SUP training? I'm novice at it, but was once a raft guide and currently do a lot of flatwater SUP.

Please let me know, and if not, any referral to someone who does would be most appreciated!

Get ready for an information packed episode of Safety First with Danger Tate. Tate talks with the river trip planning expert, Michele Crockett. She is the co-founder of RiverBent. Michele is so knowledgeable in all things river trips, from organizing gear and logistics to planning meals and making sure the whole crew—kids included—has a great time on the water.

Join us as we explore:

• Michele’s journey into the world of river trips and what led her to co-found RiverBent.
• Essential planning tips for private boaters, including packing strategies and meal prep.
• The logistics of organizing a smooth and enjoyable trip, from permits to group dynamics.
• Fun and creative ways to keep kids entertained while on the river.

If you're a private boater looking to level up your trip planning or just love talking all things rivers, this episode is a must-listen!

Organizations to Support:

• GOALS Youth River Expeditions is focused on getting kids into whitewater. You can support them by following the link.
• Diversify Whitewater is focused on promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion in all paddle sports by removing barriers that may exist. You can support them by follow the link.

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• Upper Wind Whitewater Festival
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: 2D vs 3D Video

What does your "2D vs 3D" framework give us that the International Scale of River Difficulty doesn't already?

You posted an interesting video about 2D vs 3D boating. Your argument for the distinction between 2D and 3D is solid and I agree with most things you say. However, I don't really see the value of this system considering we already have the International Scale of River Difficulty to describe rivers. What does "2D vs 3D" tell us that class I-III vs class IV-V doesn't already? When a new framework for classification or description is invented in science and engineering, it has some clear differences and advantages to other existing frameworks. At the least, it should add some level of nuance to the conversation or be beneficial in niche situations.

Anyways, that's my overly-analytic peer review of your idea. I appreciate you taking the time to bring new ideas to the sport.

Topic:River Hardware Blower Adapters

Have you test-fit any of your blower adapters with the Bauer blower from Harbor Freight?

Topic: Flip in Green Wall

Three person, Three Boat trip on the Illinois. Flow was 1700 CFS and dropping.

We ran a single boat down while two people set safety below harvey. After we got a single boat through, the two other captains went up to run the rapid. During their run, the first boat flipped just prior to getting to the doors. The captain did an amazing job self rescuing himself, and made it to the shore prior to swimming down the crux move.

Now my question. We had a boat flipped, moving downstream. I decided to pull out of the eddy and work on getting the boat moved to the shore. I didn't get the boat into an eddy until the rapid after green wall. While you give tips on getting boats recovered in this situation, and will you give feedback on our safety plan on how we ran and set safety.

In this episode of Safety First with Danger Tate, we dive into the fascinating world of the Upper Klamath with special guest Will Volpert, owner of Indigo Creek Outfitters in Southern Oregon. Will brings a lifetime of experience in the outdoor industry and has played a key role in understanding what the future of the Klamath River holds for boaters.

Join us as we explore:

• Will’s connection to the Klamath and how outfitters bring recreation to the discussion as the river continues to evolve.
• The changes happening to the river and what they mean for outdoor enthusiasts.
• Insights into what boating will look like with access points, rapids, and different sections.

Check out Will in action on the New Klamath:

• Big Bend on the New Klamath
• Access 1 to the Iron Gate on the New Klamath

A Map of the Klamath

There were some technical difficulties in the episode where the map and photos we talked about did not appear on the screen. You can find the map here.

If you're passionate about rivers, river restoration, and the future of the Klamath, this episode is a must-listen!

Topics and links that Zach talked about in this episode

• River Hardware
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Selway Low Water Boat Selection

Does your "bigger is better" advice for the Middle Fork Salmon also apply to Selway low-water trips? Is a 16 or 18 foot boat still ideal, or is the nature of the river different enough to change the advice?

Also, what is a general rule for the cut-off flow to switch out of rafts and into IKs and packrafts?

Love the show, and thanks for all the advice and entertainment!

Topic: Whitewater Helmets

Zach, I'm looking to buy a new helmet for rafting. Can you talk about a few hemlets that you have tried and what would be your top 3 recommendations?

Topic: Cat Frame

I was wondering if you had any recommendations for a day frame for my 12x22 cat, I am looking for something lightweight but durable that’s narrower than 68 inches.

Topic: SPORT LINES!!

Mayhaps you could add your take on a lingering question within the rank and file of the rafting community;

Sport Lines only count if you call them out beforehand correct?
Otherwise it’s just a blown line??

In this episode, we’re joined by the legendary Charlie Walbridge, a pioneer in whitewater safety with over 40 years of experience. As an author, accident analyst, and key contributor to river rescue techniques, Charlie has shaped the way paddlers approach safety on the water. He’s here to share his expertise, stories, and hard-earned wisdom about navigating risk in whitewater environments.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

The Evolution of Whitewater Safety – Charlie reflects on how safety practices have evolved over the years, including the development of essential rescue tools like the throw bag and key concepts like “foot entrapment.”
Decision-Making on the River – He shares how creating and maintaining the American Whitewater accident database has impacted his boating and decision making. And how we can learn from past accidents to prevent future ones
The State of the Rivers Now – Charlie shares actionable steps we can take to help protect our beloved rivers and public lands.
Building a Culture of Safety – Discover how teamwork, communication, and proper training can make all the difference in emergency situations.

Packed with expert insights, compelling river stories, and plenty of practical advice, this episode is a must-listen for paddlers, guides, and anyone who loves the thrill of moving water.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• GoRafting.Com
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Throw Ropes

On the Ocoee River in Southeast TN we are permitted by TN State Parks and they oversee the day to day. We are working with rules that were last updated in the 90's. Proposed new rules will require a throw rope 3/8" diameter 70' long in every commercial boat with a knife in every boat. I definitely agree with a knife with every throw rope, but I am having a hard time with a rope in every boat. Current rule states a throw rope with every 6 boats and no knife requirement. The Ocoee is wide and shallow in most places. We have had a death and a de-gloving of a digit in the past few years from throw ropes.

I like "senior" guides who have training to carry throw ropes, but I think of the first and second year guides who are just trying to learn how to function as a river guide and most are not ready to carry a throw rope and a knife. A busy July/August Saturday might have 1000 commercial boats per day, which means to me the potential for many dropped knifes in the river. Thoughts?

Topic: Hells Canyon

Hi Zach, I scored a Hells Canyon permit launching June 15, a new river for me. The next three days are scheduled non-jetboat days, so that's nice. Floating from the dam to Heller Bar and we want 1 layover day.

How many total days do you think we should plan for? Any other input for this stretch you might share?

Thanks for these videos and I hope River Hardware is doing well.

Topic: Middle Fork Boats

We scored a Middle Fork permit for July 14. Wondering about your thoughts on taking an 18 ft SOTAR at that time of year? I’ve got other options, but the next size down is an E140…

In this captivating episode, we welcome Kara Weld, a three-time U.S. national champion in canoe slalom, seasoned kayaker, and CEO of Immersion Research. Kara talks about her journey through competitive kayaking, her passion for the outdoors, and building a successful business.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

Full of inspiring stories, practical insights, and Kara’s energy, this episode is perfect for adventurers, entrepreneurs, and anyone who loves hearing from trailblazers.

Movie Mentioned

Kara mentioned a great movie about female kayakers called Fast and Clean, you can watch it on YouTube here.

Stay Connected

Follow the podcast for more engaging discussions with inspiring guests. For more episodes, visit our website at Whitewater Guidebook.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• WTF Snowboarders?
• Answer Questions
• Kokatat Maximus Centurion

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: SOTAR Valve Placement

I'm having a SOTAR raft built- it's a 12'6" non diminished design, and will be run as both an oar rig and R2 paddle raft. I'm trying to settle on valve placement. The standard SOTAR fill valves are positioned on the tubes at 2 o'clock and 8 o'clock if looking down from above the boat.
I see most of your NWRC boats have the fill valves at the bow and stern, what's the thought process behind placing them there? Do you see any issues with the standard SOTAR placement?

Thanks in advance, see you on the river!

In this exciting episode, we’re joined by the incredible Daniel Stillman, a seasoned multi-day guide, rafting instructor, and adventurer with a deep love for rivers and outdoor education. Daniel shares his expertise, captivating stories, and enthusiasm as he reflects on his career and his recent adventures in Ecuador.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

Packed with personal anecdotes, professional insights, and plenty of humor, this episode is a must-listen for outdoor enthusiasts, aspiring guides, and anyone who loves a great story from the wild.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Ecuador Rowing School
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: PFD Review Request

Hey Zach, I love your channel!

I have a quick question. Could you do a review on the Kokatat Maximus Centurion PFD? My apologies if you already have one in your library.

Topic: Chetco

How far does the Chetco go up from its mouth at the ocean before one hits a Class III?

Topic: Sleeping Pad

Hey Zach, love the show. I operate a small outfitting business and always appreciate your information and analysis.

I'm repairing and replacing gear for the coming season and wondering what your favorite client sleeping pad is? Our trips all involve some bush flying so big pads like paco's are out of the question. I've been trying to find something a little more plush than the old standard therm-a-rest (Basecamp model) but have been plagued with leaky materials and valves. Love to know what you use.

Topic: Maravia Glue Up

Several years ago I bought a used 2009 Maraiva glue up boat. One of my seams has developed a leak and I am having trouble finding the right information on the proper repair of such a unique boat. If you have any info about this I would appreciate it.

I love your YouTube Channel and what you guys do for the whitewater community.

Topic: John Day SUP

I stumbled upon your content about SUP adventure on the John Day. I am motivated to do something very similar and found your advice and tips helpful.

I am reaching out to you regarding my plans and if you have insight as to the stretch of river I plan to paddle. John Day, 50 miles from Service Creek to Clarno (before the rapids I think). If you know what type of waters these are in June I would be grateful and very appreciative for any input you have.

I feel pretty confident in my ability to handle class 2, but not sure about class 3.

Together, they discuss:

• Countless river stories from the last 45 years on the water.
• The biggest lessons he’s learned from the river.
• How he’s gotten over half of his family to love the river lifestyle.
• The gear that he’s loved and used in his rafting career.

Final Thoughts

This episode is a must-listen for anyone who loves the outdoors or wants to hear from a true legend of river running. Whether you’re an experienced rafter or just starting out, Grandpa Bob’s insights offer valuable lessons about adventure, dedication, and embracing the wild.

Stay Connected

Follow the podcast for more inspiring conversations with adventurers and river legends. To find past episodes of Safety First with Danger Tate visit our website at Whitewater Guidebook.

About Steve Welch: Steve Welch, a longtime guide and former General Manager for ARTA, retired after decades of shaping the rafting industry. He is currently working on his upcoming novel, Slate Creek, and is involved with the Class III Rowing Schools for NWRC.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Steve’s early years in rafting, including his first adventures on four of the best rivers in the western U.S.
• The appeal of guiding and what first drew Steve to this unique career.
• ARTA’s founding and its ongoing commitment to environmental stewardship and protecting public lands.
• How the rafting industry has progressed over his time in it.
• The importance of disconnecting from technology on the river and how self-bailing boats changed the game for guides.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Online Rowing School
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Grand Canyon Permit Fees

Hey Zach. Saw an article about the proposed increase in permit fees for Grand Canyon. Interested to get your thoughts.

Topic: Selway & Middle Fork Salmon Snowpack

Storms have been tracking your way this year it seems, more than Northern California.

Can you assess the current snowpack for Middle Fork of the Salmon and Selway? Too early to predict the future, but what is the current state? Love the show!

Topic: Setting Safety

Hi, I'm 75 and a forty year rafter. Last October (2024) myself, another rafter and an IKer boated the Lower Salmon. The river was at 3130 cfs on the day we went through Snow Hole. At that level I believe it's a 4+, there was no visible clear line through. We figured our best bet was to get as far river right as possible. I made it through and into the eddy at bottom right.

I pulled out a throw bag and waited for the IKer. He came through swimming, I threw the throw bag but it was too short to reach him. I didn't pull into the current to rescue thinking the rafter still has to go through. The rafter got tossed out of his boat which didn't flip. Again my rebagged throw bag rope was too short to reach him, but his boat was pulled into the same eddy I was in. Both boaters self rescued to the downstream shore and I tied up the unattended raft to my raft and pulled it out of the eddy.

I have been wondering if I should have chased the first or second swimmer instead of staying in the eddy. If I had left the eddy not sure if we could have gotten the other rafters raft out of the eddy. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• GoRafting Sponsor
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: 2nd Boater

Without getting into full details, I was in a situation where I was the second boat. We were an eight boat trip. This was the Middle Fork a few years ago. A signal came up the line to stop and eddy out. For some reason the lead boat didn’t stop. I stayed with the lead boat and the third boat stayed with us. Again we signaled up to stop and again the lead boat did not try to Eddy out. We were running up on Sulpher and the lead boat went ahead and entered the rapid. I followed and stayed with the lead boat until it finally eddied out before Ramshorn.

It turned out a boat in the back had gotten pinned and didn’t come off until everyone hiked back and joined together to get it off.

My question is was I right in staying with the lead boat when it didn’t stop. My gut was telling me to eddy out because someone was in trouble behind us, but I felt a responsibility to the lead boat as I was his safety. The rower on the third boat felt the same.

Topic: Oar setup with Tall Torso

Hi Zach,
Been watching your oar setup video to help dial in my boat this winter. I'm rowing a 13' Otter, 60" wide NRS frame, older 6-7" oar towers (wasn't exactly sure where to measure from), 8'-10" oars, and sitting on the dry box. The geometry has never been fully customized for various reasons. Anyways, I'm hoping you have some thoughts on a couple things and how they relate to oar setup. 1.) I'm fairly tall (6'-1") but most of my height is in my torso (32" inseam). 2.) In the past, I have sometimes been hitting my legs while rowing (probably some operator error involved). I was set on getting newer/taller oar towers to accommodate these issues, but your video inspired me to hit pause and think this through. I appreciate what you do for the boating community, and I want to say thanks for the videos and thanks for any advice you can give on my setup.

In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome Tim Palmer, acclaimed author, photographer, and lifelong river conservation advocate. Tim brings decades of experience exploring, documenting, and fighting to preserve the beauty and health of rivers across the world. Together, we discuss:

• Why rivers are vital to ecosystems and communities.
• The biggest challenges facing river conservation today.
• Practical steps you can take to help protect rivers.
• Stories from Tim’s adventures and his journey as an advocate.

Resources Mentioned:

• Explore Tim Palmer's work
• Organizations supporting river conservation

Stay Connected:
Follow the podcast for more engaging discussions with inspiring guests, and don’t forget to leave a review if you enjoyed this episode!

For more episodes and bonus content, visit our website at Whitewater Guidebook.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Tim Palmer Interview
• Answer Questions
• Recent Accidents
• AW Big4
• Capto

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: River Geek.com

Greetings from Spokane, Wash.

Trying to find out if anyone knows about rivergeek.com website that is a one-stop shop for river permit Applications/info?

We have used it for years and all of a sudden it is not working?

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Microbiologic RTB 780
• Zach's OpEd about protecting the Owyhee River

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Groover Deodorizers

I just purchased the Selway Fab River Bank toilet system and was wondering if/what types of deodorizers are best, especially for the longer trips.

Topic: The Ice Dillema

With the advent of the rotomolded coolers, ice retention has become much easier. Last year I was able to keep cube ice for about 4.5 days of a six day trip in 100+ degrees in a cooler that was pre-cooled. I’m considering sourcing dry ice for my next trip in those conditions. Any thoughts on using various types of cooling techniques to get the best and longest bang for the buck???

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Answer Questions
• Palm Gradient Boot 3.0

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Alternative Raft Seat

Hi, Zach bought an alternative raft seat early in the season. I may have missed the review, but I was curious how it worked out?

Topic: Blaster Comparisons

You should do a video comparing blasters. First based off of their noise and then second how long they take to get x gallons to a boil. I feel that blasters are a necessary evil and pain point where all river runners would be willing to make improvements.

I mainly want to see what is going on with Partner Steel Extreme Water Heater. At almost double the price of their blaster I am curious if it is worth it. Can't find a single video of it in use either!

Also curious how the other cheaper blasters hold up on heating worthy amounts to a boil.

Welcome to the very first episode of Safety First with Danger Tate! This brand-new series kicks off with an incredible guest — Ashley(Ash) Wise, the director for NOLS Alaska and a seasoned adventurer with over two decades of experience in outdoor leadership.

In this episode, you’ll follow Ashley’s journey from college outdoor programs in Arizona to guiding whitewater expeditions with NOLS around the world. His experience as a whitewater instructor, leader, and educator provides a fascinating look into the evolution of outdoor education.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

• Ashley’s path to becoming a NOLS instructor — From student trips on the Salt River to teaching multi-week backcountry courses.
• The art of leadership in the wild — How NOLS empowers students to plan, lead, and learn in real-world conditions.
• Packrafting 101 — Discover how NOLS is introducing game-changing packrafting courses in 2025 (and why packrafts are a total upgrade from canoes!).
• Wildlife safety tips — Hear stories from the field about bear encounters in Alaska and what it takes to stay calm under pressure.

With personal anecdotes, life lessons, and a behind-the-scenes look at NOLS, this episode is a must-listen for adventurers, guides, and anyone dreaming of a backcountry adventure.

Hit play, grab a cup of coffee, and get ready to be inspired by stories of leadership, teamwork, and growth in the great outdoors. Adventure is calling — are you ready to answer?

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Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: WW Kayak PFD

Hi, as a larger WW Kayak paddler which do you feel would be the better option. Palm Nevis vs Astral Indus? I would be really interested in your opinion. Best wishes, Ben

Topic: AED for raft trips

Our local rafting club is considering buying an AED. As an RN, I support this. We might not need it, but we could.

Do you have them for commercial trips? If you do, what model do you think is best? Best from a rafting perspective.

For example, best for keeping a charge on a long trip? Best for hanging out in a pelican case getting banged around? Best for a little moisture now and then? Battery life, etc...?

Any input would be well appreciated.

Topic: Campfires in the Future

Zach, I wanted to hear your opinions on campfires while multi-day rafting in the future, both professionally and personally. We have decided on our last 2 trips to completely move away from campfires. It "feels" like it's just not worth it to think about campfires when most of the time there is smoke around and more and more wildfire risk. It feels selfish to have a fire, even when you can. It looks like the future is less campfires, which, honestly, cuts down on packing in the stuff to have responsible fires and the wood...

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Sponsor:GoRafting.com
• Answer Questions
• Mechanical Advantage

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Cat Flip Lines

I'm interested in a pair of cataraft flip lines. I have a 14ft wave destroyer and there is 90 inches between the internal front and back D-rings. I do not see 90 inches on your size chart. Any chance you will have something that will work on your River Hardware website?

Topic: Shoes

Just listened to your latest podcast on river shoes. Take a look at the Korkers Devil's Canyon (Portland, OR). They are flexible and have a BOA lacing system. Best part, they have interchangeable soles depending on your substrate.

Wading boots have used felt soles for decades; they are All about surface area. Felt soles with metal studs, and you're an all-star on slick rocks (terrible for boats, though). If you need to hike to put it in, use the Vibram rubber lug soles, then switch to felt soles. They make some ugly shoes and sandals too.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Go Light Outdoors Cat Frames
• Answer Questions
• Mechanical Advantage

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Boating Group

I just moved to PDX and am looking for some rafting friends. Can you help?

Topic: Illinois Packraft

I have (had) a dream to do a low water Illinois River trip in my Packraft. [My friends] ran the river in the ‘70s in inner tubes. Yup. I guided on the Illinois for a couple seasons late ’70’s-early ’80’s but have not been back. Whaddah ya think about my idea? I don’t want an epic (those days are mostly behind me) but would LOVE to get back. Any thoughts on water level, whether this is a crazy idea, or any other thoughts are very much appreciated.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• New Online Courses
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: River Footwear

Hey Zach! I’ve heard you talk about having good river shoes on many episodes. I’ve worn keens for years on day trips and short overnighter’s. However, the amount of sand I got in them on the lower salmon this year over a 6 day trip caused a lot of uncomfortable rub spots. Plus, if I need to get out mid river, or walk to a scout, I need some better stability. What are your recommendations for brands? Are they typically brands you need to wear socks with? Thanks!

Your information is great and I’ve learned a ton from you as a first year boat captain.

Topic: 2 Person Cataraft

Hey Zach, hope you had a great summer season. In perhaps a reflection of how my year has been going , following up on a chat we had back in March at the Class IV School. Would love to get your thoughts/recommendations on a 2-person cataraft for Chrys and I that would be:

• Big enough for two seats (Chrys' back doesn't do well with coolers/dry boxes)
• Small enough to be movable by two people, even if one tube at a time (prefer < 80 lb per tube)
• Take down frame
• Can be rigged for either day trips (most often) with two seats, or for 4-5 day lightweight overnights

Any thoughts on a good fit, and who is doing good packages these days?

Topic: Organizing / Rigging

Love the show, I'm a huge proselytizer and telling everyone I know about what I learn here, especially people just getting into rafting.

I'm always looking for more efficient ways to do things. Right now, I roll my cam straps like this and throw them in a mesh bag. This certainly beats the squirrel's nest of unwrapped straps in a bag, but do you know of a better way?

Topic: Joocla GottaGo

Saw this new toilet system from Joocla and wanted to get your thoughts on it. It is significantly cheaper than some of the other options out there and seems like it would work well for smaller groups.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• New New Bungee Flip Lines
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Pro Locks

I was going to reach out and get your opinion on a new version of Pro-lock oar locks that Dan from Pro-lock just sent out to me.
I'm curious about what you think because these are supposed to be a functioning alternative to pins and clips that won't pop free in the desperate sections of water.
Thank you for taking the time to answer all the questions

Topic: Selway Groovers

How can I buy two of these?

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• New Flip Lines
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Aire 130e vs Super Puma

I’m on the east coast and I’m r2ing most of the time but I’ve been taking family and friends more often lately and also I got a frame and I’ve been rowing a bit. I’m currently on a mini max but the size is just too small. I like the price on the super puma better, I just wonder if the guiding position would be uncomfortable? Would you put a frame on a 130e with the different shape on the bow and the stern? What would be the best all around between those two boats? Are the ballast floor a pain to deal with?
Thank you for taking the time to answer all the questions

Topic: Glue Recommendation

I am looking for an ideal glue to cover stitched seams on a Hypalon bag to make it waterproof after sewing. Do you have any recommendations on what I should use?

Topic: Unplugged?

If I may, I have a video idea for your channel: Working Title— “Time beyond the threshold: Life without cellphones on wilderness river trips” but title choice is of course up to you.

My question:
What is it like in 2024 with cell phones and headphones?

The speakers and the submersible digital-light-shows in Trail Creek HS on Dead Heads?

Is there an emergence of Analog in response to this Digital Onslaught? To what extent are 2024 river trips “unplugged” in your estimation? Is there still acoustic living in the guide culture or is it just a relic of days gone by?

I would like to hear your thoughts and the discussion in the comments section about the relationship of the digital and the analog on wilderness river trips. Those are my thoughts.

Thanks again for creating ass-loads of worthwhile educational videos and posting them on YouTube. It’s a service. Thank you for your service.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Answer Questions
• New rafting flip lines from River Hardware

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Various Topics

I have 3 different non related questions.
-Dry box vs dry bag
- What is your take on drytops for rafting
-Super Puma vs Hyside Max 12

Topic: Old Wing Raft

I just got a 24 year old Wing 14" raft that was sitting in a loft for a long time it was rolled up for years with vary few river days on it . It was built in 1997 and the serial # is not in the archives at wing inflatables . The Boat looks good but I am worried about if the fabric was compromised with age and whether I should be concerned . The material feels like urethane fabric stiff and holds air well overnight. Should I be concerned running class 3-4 mostly Rogue and easy rivers? How are your older Wing boats holding up?

Topic: Dry Suit

Do you have a preference between Kokatat’s one-piece drysuits and their separates? I do a little fly fishing, too. So I’m wondering if the versatility of the separates would be beneficial.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Cat Boat Flip Lines

Hey man, I was watching your last episode and heard you say you were struggling to find material for the cat flip line that would stay tight to the boat and yet stretch so you can stand up further when reflipping the boat. What if instead of finding different material you just tied a 2' long line or strap to the middle of the stretchy flip line making a T shape. This can be a pretty short strap or piece of rope that while yes it is dangling below the boat it is only 2' or so and isn't any more dangerous than the bungie line. This would allow you to keep the bungie tight and extend the reach when you are reflipping.

Topic: Difference in Oar holders

Can you tell me about the difference in control in technique between pins and clips, oar rights and spinnies? The raft and cat boats I bought have pins and clips so that is what I have been using for the past few years. Thanks. Love your show.

Topic: Bhutan

Hello Zach

I enjoy your show

Have you run Drangme Chhu from the top? Is it really kinda 3+ 4-?

Just wanting to know what to expect in early December.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• AW Accident Database
• Cataraft Flip Line
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Class V Rafting

I recently R2ed down Gore Canyon on the Colorado for the first time. I went because the water level was perfect, the group was trustworthy, and I personally think I am experienced enough for class V. I have 2 years commercial guiding experience and 6 years of private boating, mostly in class IV. My R2 partner and I hit all our lines perfectly and it was an incredible day.

That being said, I was still surprised at the difficulty and danger level of the river. To me, rafting class V consistently seems like you are rolling the dice on getting hurt or killed. Some class V rapids come down to a wave surging at the right time or the wrong time. Unlike class I-IV, it looks like the difference between swimming and not swimming is not purely skill, but also some randomness. If you hit a class V rapid often enough, you may find yourself in a sieve simply because you got unlucky.

Do you agree? Or do you think that with enough training, experience, fitness, and skill, people can raft class V with total control over their situation. I would like to think that this is true, because damn did I love Gore Canyon...

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• New Flip Line
• Private Whitewater
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Foot Cups

Hello!
I'm a big fan of Gear Garage! I saw the video on foot cups which was great and I had a few more questions about foot cups. I manage a university student led outdoor recreation program. We have a 12' raft that has two thwarts. The center compartment is an awkward span for one paddler to use the thwarts to lock themselves in. We were thinking about putting a set of foot cups in the center compartment to help with the span issue, as well maybe fit two people on each side for that center compartment rather than jsut two. I would love any thoughts you all have on footcup placement, installation tricks, etc. that you might have for this situation.

Thank you for your help!

Topic: Raft Cleaning and Maintenance

Hey! I love your youtube channel. I just bought a 2022 Aire Tributary 16ft from my late neighbor. I was wondering if you had any videos or pointers on cleaning, polishing, or general upkeep outside of just keeping it out of the sun. I want to make this boat last a long time, so I want to be sure I'm taking care of it.

Topic: HIKO GUARDIAN 3.D PFD Review?

I know that many of us are still looking for a high buoyancy PFD that is more friendly to rafting and I came across the HIKO GUARDIAN 3.D PFD. This is a European company, and does not have US Coast Guard recognition, but I think that the ISO certification may satisfy rangers? Also, any chance you can get them to send one over for you to review? It appears to have some nice features, and, as you have mentioned before in previous reviews it actually DOES increase the amount of buoyancy as the size increases: 19.1 lb for lg/xl, and 20.23 lb for the 2XL.

One specific thing that I'd like to see tested is that the shoulder straps are "stretchy" which seems great for comfort, but potentially not great if someone is trying to pull you out of the water.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Maxam Knife
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Used Boat Shopping

I've been a huge fan of your channel recently once I found it. Been boating for a little while now but just now getting into rafting with my wife. Would you mind sharing some resources for finding used rafts/catarafts and maybe how to best price them when listing or buying? Keep up the amazing work and I wish you all the best.

Topic: Saftey: Z-Drag release

Hi Zach, I was curious how you handle quickly disconnecting a rope from a raft after pulling it off a wrap? The scenario being that the boat starts down river and the carabiner can't be easily unclipped because it has some load on it and you can't just swing them to shore because of some feature in the way. Would you just cut the anchor webbing?

Topic: Ryobi compact workshop blower

Any idea if there an an adaptor for the Ryobi compact workshop blower? I have a few Ryobi tools and would love to buy this little blower with my existing battery packs.

Topic: Saftey: Topic: Chilcotin river slide.

Massive slide dries up river, big lake forming in BC.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• River Hardware
• Answer Questions

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Illinois IK

How low has the Illinois been run to your knowledge? I know Cronin and friends run it in the summer time but would like to get an idea of the CFS they/others have paddled. Is it still considered a 4+ river when the water is super low?

Also, have you ever done the Deer Creek to Illinois section? Looks interesting.

Thanks love the show.

Topic: Boat Decals

Rando question. What material do you guys use for the letters on your boat names to get them to stick so well?

I wanted to add a name to our site raft and the best I could think of is a vinyl cut letters but don’t know how well they will stay on.

Thank you for the info

Topic: PFD Help

Hi - I'm hoping you can help me choose a life jacket. I do mostly class III-IV rivers, and occasionally a IV+ or V rapid. Because I'm not a great swimmer and because I have Parkinson's, I'd like a life jacket better than what guides typically provide. Should I buy a Type 1, Type 5, or something else?

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• AW Accident Database
• GoRafting.com
• River Hardware
• Answer Questions
• Middle Fork Update

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Oar Feathering

I have convertible oar rights, that when flipped to “feather/spinny mode”, seem to create so much friction against my tuned Cobra oar locks with each feathered oar stroke, that I no longer attempt oar feathering.

Do you have any creative ideas (other than widening the space between the oar lock horns) that could lessen the friction enough so that the oars spin freely enough to allow for easy feathering when the oar right is flipped to “feather/spinny mode"

Topic: Aire Rafts

What is the maintenance like on Aire boats?

Is it time-consuming getting the water out of the floor after each use?

Are they more prone to mold?

How compact can you pack them compared to Sotar Maravia and Hyside?

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Better Mounts Raft Frames
• Middle Fork Flow Page

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Middle Fork

My friend has a June 18 Middle Fork permit. I’m wondering if you have any info, words of wisdom, videos, etc. , about Hell’s Half/Velvet, or whatever is down there now. Are rafts getting through? portaging? class V move? walk in the park by then? I’d love to give him a little heads up of some sort.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• GoRafting.com
• Guides Across America

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Lower Owyhee

Do you think the lower Owyhee will stay over 1000 CSF
through June 3rd? How much have you seen it drop in a day this late in the season?

Planning a 4 day trip May 31st to June 3rd.

I really enjoy the show! Thank you!

Topic: Middle Fork

I was wondering if you are planning on getting some video of the problem areas on the Middle Fork? Our group launches June 16 and we are trying to make the decision to fly in or do the top section. I know the river well…but not this year because of all the changes. I appreciate any info.

Topic: Rogue Flows

What are the rapids on the Rogue like at 3,000 CFS? We have a trip launching this Thursday and would love to know what you all are seeing out there.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Astral Sale

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Boating Partners

I really enjoy your videos and learn a lot. I am 74 years old and just getting into whitewater. how do I find others to run rivers with?

I am not 20 or 30 something, and that seems who most of the whitewater people are. Should I just accept that I am too old and forget about it?

How do I find others who are interested in running whitewater? I live an hour north of San Francisco in California.

Topic: Raft Width

What's the noticeable pros and cons of a 6'6" wide 14' raft vs. a 7' wide 14' raft? both with 20" tubes.

I've read the narrower boat is more nimble and the wider boat is more stable.
Aside from cargo room, are the differences in performance really that significant?

Topic: Bhutan Private Trip

A quick Google of “whitewater Bhutan” brings me to your website I see you’ve run trips there in the past.

Some friends and I are planning a private packrafting trip to the country and hope to combine a multiday hike with multiple days on a river with some tourism either side.

I’m wondering if you’d be able to offer any advice on getting through the heavy tourism regulations in the country to get such a trip off the ground.

Hope you can help

Topic: Micro Prusik

I've been talking to some friends about how to solve for the prusik slips when using thin ropes in mountaineering and when building them off throw bag lines.

This small company in Seattle got recommended to me. I haven't given it a go yet, but I thought you might be interested in it. I'm hoping it solves for the diameter issue and avoid the slip.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• New Fliplines
• Palm PFD
• Throwbags Restocked

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Z-Drag Attachments

As a novice boater I've been doing a lot of homework on z-drag techniques. Then, pulling on a boat with a z-drag, there is a lot of emphasis on dispersing the tension across multiple d-rings to not pop one off. No one mentions attaching the ropes directly to the raft frame. Why would this be a bad idea, or is it?

Topic: Amazon Seat Update?

Zach, you mentioned you bought the Amazon tractor seat as a potential NRS replacement. Have you used it and do you have any feedback on it?

Topic: Transportation Hitch

The transportation hitch then pulling a vector creates far more mechanical advantage than a z-drag, and much simpler.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Astral Indus

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Oar Length

My NRS Bighorn frame is 68" wide. What length should I have my oars at?

Answer: Measure the distance between your oar locks, and multiply by 1.63, and that's a great starting point.

Topic: Underside Handles

I have heard you describe and discuss the use of handles or straps on the under side of boats to aid in getting on an upturned raft.

What do you think is the best way of doing this? Glued handles? Straps that run around the floor?

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Non-Locking Carabiners
• GoRafting.com
• Astral Indus
• Subscribe to Private Whitewater

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Sotar Rogue Series

What are the benefits of having a Sotar Rogue vs a paddle cat kind of boat. Also do you think it would be comparable to the Aire Mammoth?.

Topic: SUP Beta

I read your article on doing the John Day on a SUP. I have a self-supported SUP trip planned for May 7-11 there but from Thirtymile to Cottonwood. Do you recall the CFS flow when you did it? I am looking at the Service Creek gauge at 6700 currently.

Let me know any intel or thoughts. Thanks much!

Topics and links that Zach & Willy BB talked about this episode

• Blower Adapter Restock
• Subscribe to Private Whitewater

Some of the Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Seat Hack

Hey, I looked at this seat on Amazon and the bolt pattern is the same. There are a couple others in that $75 price.
there are a couple more on amazon, but I did not look at the bolt patterns.

Also, I was thinking a good segment every now and again would be "raft hacks" I know you can find stuff on mountain buzz, but it might be cool if something was at Costco or someone hacked some idea that is topical now?

Topic: Raft Purchase

Looking to buy a new raft, trying to come in under $10K with frame and Sawyer oars.

I like the thought of the Aire being easier to repair and roll and store.

I saw your review from March 2018 regarding Aire, Sotar and Maravia rafts. You stated the Aire raft was "least flipable". I suspect that has to do with the regular floor pocket. What are your thoughts on putting a sealed floor pocket in the boat? More maneuverable but more likely to flip? Will the sealed floor be an advantage in low water on the Middle Fork?

Great videos, keep up the great work.Thank you and best regards.

Topic: Middle Fork Scouting

Hi Zach!
Love the content!
Headed out for Middle Fork of the Salmon at the end of the month. First time for me but going with a group that is experienced. Although, they say we won’t get out to scout anything. Is that common? They said we would boat scout everything and they know it like that back of their hand. Trying not to be inconvenient to the group but are their any rapids I should insist we scout properly?

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Guide School
• Rescue Kits

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Bogus Flip

Light me up! Flows at clementine inflow around 1400-1500, shirtail was chuggin though so I’m guessing 12-1300 on chamberlains

Topic: New Oars

Thanks a lot for the great course I thoroughly enjoyed it and learn a lot. I’m also stoked on the new frame and I’ve started thinking about oars and pins and tips. I’ve had a gander at the Sawyer website and was wondering what you would recommend in terms of ores and blades, and then what Pins and Clips would you get.

Topic: Wing thwart attachment improvement

Hi Zach,
We both know how hard Wing thwart movement is. I found a nice, somewhat elegant solution. Can you comment on my fix, explained below?
I appreciate your suggestion to girth hitch the stock straps. A great tip, but still takes lots of time to add or move/remove a thwart. The stock straps are super stiff and difficult to manage.
I bought these smaller cam straps (8 per thwart) on Amazon; Ayaport Lashing Straps
Very easy to move thwart now.
I girth hitched them. The cam buckle placement has to be as shown
If the buckle is too close to the D ring, they can come loose by getting compressed between boat and thwart. And the flush part of the buckle should face the thwart, not the boat.
It works great so far. Thoughts?

Topic: Lining Gear Boats

Hey there, saw Tate's live report of you lining a Sotar Rogue, with a single line at Husum yesterday. Planning a trip that will involve lining gear boats past a class 5 rapid (no waterfall involved). Any suggestions on technique, ropes, and line attachment locations to get some success. Remember some time ago you and Aaron discussing lining a bit. Also, never seen anyone lining boats in the Grand Canyon, I suppose it would be terribly uncool, especially to post on Youtube, but some of the rapids look like they might be able to be lined as a safe alternative at some flows. Any thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated, thanks so much.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Wind River Festival Recap
• GoRafting.com

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Steve

Hello!

I’m curious what is Scuba Steve constructed out of? I’ve been trying to find a good way to simulate an unconscious swimmer.

Topic: Best in the West

Have you seen the bracket from Oars for the (2nd) Best in the West river trip? I’ve got my thoughts about the bracket and some of the results. I was curious if you’ve seen it and what you think of how it’s played out?

https://www.oars.com/best-in-the-west/?

Topic: Watershed Fabric

I seem to recall from Gear Garage vids late last year or early this one that you mentioned Watershed Drybags is coming out with a new-and-improved line of drybags with improved/burlier fabric. Any updates on this?

I have a Chatooga duffel that I use and really like but also have a Grand Canyon private trip this fall (late October launch from Lee's Ferry) - thinking that a Colorado or Mississippi duffel with enhanced fabric could be just the ticket for my primary dry duffel for that trip and beyond.

Thanks much for any insight! A GG member happy to support the channel/podcast and NWRC...

Topic: Boat Recommendation

I love your knowledgeable videos.
Wondering if you care to share your thoughts on a couple boats I am looking at. I’ve owned a drift boat for two decades and buying my first raft to access more difficult water for Spey fishing away from the crowds. I’m looking at an aire 130R and an aire super duper puma. I most often fish the upper sandy, upper Clackamas, and lower deschutes. Spey fishing is done while wading so not looking for all that fishing crap on my boat. Just a simple NRS big horn frame with an anchor drop. I’ll do overnighters on the deschutes but only a couple of nights. I’ve usually got one or two other people with me, but we take lightweight backpacking gear.

I have one more question for you guys that I’d love to hear you explore… comparison of an Aire Tributary 14 vs. Aire 143d. The wireframes on these boats seem similar to me, but I’m a novice. The 143d is ~$2200 more. Weight and width…
The Trib is 136#s vs the 143d at 114#s as they have different weight fabrics. The Trib is 6’10 wide vs. 143d at 6’6.
Is 6’10 and heavy a big deal? Again I’m trying to create a great boat for an NRS big horn frame to float the upper Sandy, upper Clack and do multi days max to the mouth on the deschutes… Spey fishing.
Thank you!

Topic: Illinois Shuttle

I was wondering how much time needs to budgeted for driving from Kerby, Oregon to the Miami Bar put in. Google maps says 20 miles and about 55 minutes. Is this your experience?

Also, on highly unpredictable and fickle drainage, how we looking for flows for late April, early May?

Topic: R2 on the MFS

I'm going to buy a raft rather than rent one for a MFS trip in early July. I'm torn between the Hyside Mini Max or the Max 12. We are very experienced kayakers and will be packing light, and there will be oar rigs to carry some bigger group stuff if needed. Are the oar rigs going to leave us in the dust? Any thoughts on the MiniMax vs the Max 12? After the one trip down the MFS, the boat will be spending the rest of its life on NC/WV rivers. Thanks

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Ear Rings

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Owyhee

I did not get any river permits this year.

When will the Owyhee be at optimal levels with nice weather?

Topic: Oar Shaft Selection for Beginner

Thank you for all the work you been putting into the videos. Just got the bug for oars and have been studying your videos. My current boat is a 9.5’ Maravia. I calculated my oar length with your formula and it comes out to be 8.27 feet. Should I round up or down?

Blade selection:
I think the southeast would be considered shallow water in comparison to you guys. I was looking at polecats with Cataract cutthroats. Had a guy from 4corners river sports recommend NRS mini helix blades. What’s your thoughts on small blade profiles for small boats?

Topic: Video Review

https://gopro.com/v/m4VGkd2pnEeK8

Clear Creek, Colorado

approximately 300 cfs (Low Water)

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• New Hats
• Astral Indus Rescue Lifejacket (PFD)

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: 1998 Hyside

I have been paddle guiding, rowing, and kayaking for over 20 years. Most of my rafting experience is class 3 and 4.
I have a 1998 Hyside raft. The floor is intact and does not leak but the i-beams have all blown out. I have been continuing to use it on class 3 water since the i-beams failed. Obviously it does not track as well as it used to, but it still seems fine overall.
Do you think I should be concerned about anything? Do you think that this floor situation will cause the raft to perform significantly worse in class 4 water?
Given the age of the raft, I don't plan to spend $1,000 for a new floor. The yellow rub strake is starting to peel off and I expect that over the next few years, other parts of the raft will slowly begin to degrade.

Topic: What boat to buy for rafting and fishing?

I won the lottery! I pulled a permit for the Middle Fork. Late July. Hell has frozen over.
Looking to buy a boat that can take us down the MF, but also be reconfigured for fishing. Live within a few hours of NRS HQ, in case that is a deciding factor.
I heard you say everyone should be in a 16'. All my friends have 14's. We sometimes share trailers, etc. Should I take that into consideration

Topic: Drug Dogs on the Middle Fork

Apologies for the taboo question, but here goes. I saw this link on Reddit discussing drug dogs and agents on the MF. Can you share your experience?

Topic: Favorite Folding Knife

I have been watching way too many of your Gear Garage videos on knives. This is after I purchased the new NRS Pilot folding knife, which I am not able to easy deploy in a safe way. Anyway, I am just going to ask: At this time, what is your favorite go to folding knife?

Topic: Groovers

Montana is removing the pit toilets on one of its Permitted Rivers this year. I've watched your videos on the Selway Fab Riverbank Groover. I bought one, there are a couple of things I don't like about it. But I'll leave it at that.

I plan to use the 780 microbiologic chemical. Do you find that strong enough throughout a MF trip? Or do you add something extra everyday?
My trip will be 15people 5days. Almost everyone will be first time Groover users, so smell is going to be an issue for them. Hoping to get buy with 1 vault. If not 5gal bucket and gamma will be the backup vault.

Also with the pit toilets some of ladies would discard their "products" right into the pit toilets. I want to eliminate any chances of that happening in my groover. What's your system for Feminine hygiene at the groover in bear country?

Scat machine or Rv hose, Which do you prefer with the Riverbank?

Thanks for all that you do I really appreciate it and I'm sure many others do aswell.!! I've learned a wealth of knowledge just from your channel!

On a side note where's Aaron and Steve? I enjoyed the banter and debates. It was quite comical and informative at the same time.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• WWTC Throw Bags
• Upper Wind Whitewater Festival
• Middle Fork of the Salmon Snowpack and Flow

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Play boats

I recently bought a Hyside Mini Max and it’s been a wild ride. I’ve flipped it a few times, been tossed out, surfed and generally humbled on runs that were pretty smooth in bigger boats.

I have a been running R2 and also have a frame, I find rowing it to be super fun.

I like a challenge and am ok getting a beat down on occasion but starting to wonder if a cat boat makes more sense for the harder stuff I want to be rowing like Wind, Hood, Illy etc. I don’t have much experience with cats and want to stay sharp in a raft for trips like Grand Canyon, MFS etc.

What are your thoughts on these little boats as someone who enjoys rowing challenging water?

Topic: dry suit vs semi dry suit

I saw some semi dry suits on craigslist and they seemed ok, but then someone said they are "unsafe". I assume neoprene neck and wrist are more permeable than rubber but is this "unsafe" for rafting? I am buying for my wife and teenage daughter for class II and III, so not planning on swimming and planning to recover swimmers fast in that water... I can't afford 2 new suits to be used 2-3 times a year...

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• GoRafting River maps
• Upper Wind Whitewater Festival
• Tractor Seat Option for Oar Rafts

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Selway River

How does a mid-low water trip on the Selway compare to a mid-low water trip on the MF Salmon in terms of difficulty? Are there skills or additional requirements you would want in a boater on the Selway above and beyond what would qualify them to be successful on the middle fork?

Topic: carrying a duckie

hey Zach, What is the best way for a raft to carry and secure a duckie through the rapids on a raft. It always seems like the teens want to be in the duckie till the bigger rapids, and then they want to ride in the raft. I've seen lots of different ways, towing , straddling, etc, besides deflating the duckie, what's the best way to secure it to the gear in an oar boat?

Topic: experienced rowers

My wife and I are experienced kayakers/rafters. Taking my family down the lower Salmon this year and our two rafts simply don't have enough space. It's possible that i'm going to be short on experienced rowers so i'd be open to hiring a guide to row a gear boat if that's something you do?

Topic: NRS thigh bar

Recently I was cruising FB marketplace and saw an NRS thigh brace for sale. This is definitely not something I was looking for.

Just wanted to get your thoughts on this thing. Appears to me to be more of a hazard or potential death trap than a necessity. Any IRF implications? It's probably not in your wheelhouse but how does NRS get away with selling something like this? It seems like more of a problem and lurking liability than their letter opener/river knife.

Topic: Raft seat

Topic: experienced rowers

Not really a question but an answer to a alternate to NRS seats. https://north40.com/deluxe-low-back-tractor-seat

Give these seats a try the material is very grippy, comfortable and fit the NRS bolt pattern.They are heavier than the NRS seats and black but I have them on several frames and there definitely more durable.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• GoRafting River maps
• Better Mounts
• Kodiak Components

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Cataraft Frame

What are the dimensions of a cataraft frame you would recommend for a 14 ft Wave Destroyer? The Chafe strip is 93 inches long. Any particular brands you would recommend? Thanks

Topic: Status of the MFS for trips in June

Hi Zach. I have followed your channel for a couple of years. I like your approach and respect your opinions. After years of trying I finally have an opportunity to run the Middle Fork of the Salmon. I am looking for any beta intel on the status of the log jamb and how that might affect a mid June trip? We are assuming to launch at Indian Creek. I realize no one can predict what will happen. Just interested in the word among the locals. Are trips still being planned for June? Any thoughts should the logs break free when a trip is planned? Thanks for anything you can offer

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• BoatSmith February 15-19, 2024
• Illyfest April 27 & 28, 2024
• Upper Wind Whitewater Festival March 23, 2024
• Upper Clackamas Whitewater Festival May 18 & 19, 2024

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Oar Length

Zac, I have a bone to pick with you. For the record, I have submitted my question twice through the appropriate channels and there has been radio silence. I’m watching as I type, the YouTube episode titled, “Sawyer Paddles & Oars Q&A: Featuring Zac Kauffman. You are not making any sense. On one hand you say your oar length formula is the Bible and on the other hand you answer a question if 11’ oars would be good for a Hyside 16’ boat with a response like you’re shooting from the hip. That is essentially the same question I tried to ask when I began the journey to purchase my dream boat in July 2022. I decided on a Hyside 16 Pro XT as my main multi-day rig. I went through River Boat Works in Salida, CO for my frame. Next on the list was ordering the oars and blades. I scoured the internet trying to find guidance on oar length, which led me to your videos and the oar length formula. I didn’t have my boat yet and I had to estimate using Clint’s knowledge from River Boat Works and a post from mountainbuzz.com. At the time, I used 87” as the distance between oarlocks. Using your oar length formula I calculated 11.8’. Of note the actual distance between oarlocks on my boat is 89”, which calculates to be 12’. Did you know they don’t make the MX-G oar longer than 11’ at Sawyer. Ultimately, I went with 11’ oars because I couldn’t get anything bigger in the 1.75” diameter MX-G line. I’ve used the oars on one multi-day trip and they seem okay. However, I’m hearing you say that 10.5’ will be a better fit for a Hyside 16’ boat not knowing if its the XT version or not. Furthermore, you are not making any sense. I appreciate what you do for the rafting community and I enjoy your content. Thanks for reading.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Illyfest April 27 & 28, 2024

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Auto Rite

You ever seen something like this before? Looks like a creature craft attachment for a raft. I’ve seen one other post showing them with the name “Auto Rite” but can’t find any other information.

Topic: Rigging firewood for Desolation Canyon

What's up Zach, my girlfriend and I have a permit for Desolation Canyon on March 22. She is rowing her RMR Phat Cat and I'm rowing my Hyside Minimax, so we have limited space. Because it's probably going to be very cold, I'm thinking about getting the Tuff River Stuff Everything Bag and filling it with as much firewood as I can. I'm wondering if you know of ways to keep the firewood dry on my small boat without using our dry bags for it. The everything bag is also pretty expensive, do you think it's worth it?

Topic: Swimmer

Hi, I have been a Whitewater kayaker for 11 years. Our local run floods occasionally and there’s a lot of fun to kayak. About a week ago I went out two days in a row after work at flood stage. First trip was great. The next day we were nearing the end of the run, and I got stuck in a hydraulic. window shaded a couple times and ended up swimming. I consider myself to be in pretty decent shape. I run at least two times a week and my job is very labor-intensive. I also kayak a lot throughout the year. The river was high that day. And I’d say the water temp was probably in the mid to high 40s. I felt like it was a near death experience and it scared the shit out of me. And I’m trying to figure out why. One of the issues I think contributing was that my Astro Willis PFD is from 2013. Could this have been a contributing factor to how difficult it was to swim? Was it a combination of the cold water and the aging PFD? Was the PFD providing any flotation at all? As soon as I realized I was out of the hydraulic, I swam as hard as I possibly could. My friend then came to my rescue, and I grabbed his stern. it took every shred of energy I had to kick my feet to get to sure. I almost considered giving up. It’s really bothering me how difficult it was and it’s messing with my head. I was also wondering if maybe my level of panic contributed to my exhaustion. Do you have any thoughts on this? 

Topic: NRS new Sleeping pad design

What are your thoughts on the new sleeping pad design from NRS? Honestly I’m a bit perplexed by some of the design choices.

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Middle Fork Permit Numbers
• Middle Fork Notes from MFOA Meeting

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Malheur River

Hi Zach, do people ever raft/kayak the Malheur River? It is listed as wild and scenic so it must be on your list... P.S. Your show has got to be the best source of continuous info for river running. Keep it up!

Topic: Rescue

Can sawyer oars make a aluminium dowel (oar extension) to join two oars together to make a rescue pole and attach a nrs oar clip to one end. Easy to carry in a pin kit on an oar raft and quick to put together. We used a similar pole on a recovery effort on Town Creek in Alabama.

Topic: Food Storage

How do you best suggest food be stored on a multiday raft trip? I don't have an aluminum drybox for my frame. Ammo cans? NRS plastic dryboxes? Something else?

Topic: NRS Oar Mounts

Hi, like my nrs frame but never been happy with the oar mount attachment. Got dumptrucked last year and during the event the mount spun on the frame and got forced down and out. The two nuts on the ubolt probably weren't tight enuf, but once back in the boat while still in the canyon I couldn't get the mount back upright to get control of the boat. Managed to eventually get into an eddy, and go over things. No way the mount could be brought back into position without tools. Heard of this happening before? Do you know of alternative mounts or solutions that work with the nrs frames? Thanks, J

Topic: Astral BlueJacket nominal vs tested it floatation

Hi, thanks for all the stuff you put on YT (and calling out the nonsense curvature of the Pilot knife)! About the floatation of the Astral BlueJacket - which is not brillant nominally. Mine is ~6 yrs. old and has seen both salt- and freshwater, all temperatures from freezing to hot (0°C to 30°C) over regular use. A year ago I tried to come up with a reason to buy a new PFD and wanted to check the floatation of the old'ish BlueJacket. Strapped an 8kg kettlebell to it and put it into the water (river) - it did not submerge completely. Which would mean it still had ~78N of floatation. Lucky sample? Excess margin of error on the production? Would other 70N-nominally-PFDs boast a 'real' 90N? Best, Patrick

Topic: Cool Friends

Hey Ya Zach, Been a GG member for nigh on two years now. Thanks for all the great videos! Any chance you’ll be welcoming more “cool friends” to your live show, at least as a members only broadcast? I really appreciate the days of Aaron and Steve, and all the thoughts that we, as a live audience got to reflect on during your live discussions. I miss those days! I also miss having a day and time I could depend on which I could tune in to for a lively live discussion with river masters. I work nights, and would like to have a dependable afternoon or morning during which I could tune in and learn sometime from you, Zach, and your cool friends! Any chance ya’ll could nail down a reasonable-ish time for a live show?

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• New NRS Knives Coming Soon
• Word From Our Sponsor - River Hardware
• Stohlquist Closing Down
• Mark Your Calendars for Clack-Fest

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Comparing Rescue PFDs

Can you do a gear garage on your suite of rescue pfds? I have an astral 300R that is just about at the end of its life and I am not a fan of the green. I am leaning towards a hustleR or a Palm vest for my next, but before I go through the effort of chasing down a palm, I would like to hear your 2 cents.

Topic: Makita Adaptors

I mostly kayak but a few years ago I purchased a Star Slice and I really get great value from your videos as a newbie, and permanently newbie, raft owner as I do not get to use the Slice very often. A few years ago I purchased one of the WWTC throw bags and I love it; it is far superior to the other products on the market and all of my friends agree. I just watched your Makita blower video and it made me think of a time where I did a side-by-side "race" with one of the car-battery powered blowers and the Makita blower was 4x faster and although loud the noise level was not like the Dentist Office high-pitched noise of the other. I have the older DUB182 style. In case it helps your Merch decisions, if the price were lower I would probably buy one. Not being critical; I heard you say that they are 3D printed one at a time so that may be the correct price point for you. have a nice day

Topic: New Astral Bowen PFD

I have been recently looking into buying the Astral Bluejacket. Today when I went on their website I saw that they replaced the Bluejacket with the Bowen. It looks like the Bluejacket with a different colorway and some new minor features. Would you recommend buying the older model for less or paying more for the newer model? Thanks, Zach!

Topics and links that Zach talked about this episode

• Make sure to modify your repair kit to be used in the field
• Tubes for storing Tear-Aid
• Kayaking Blog Post about styling rapids
• Rowing Ram's Horn Rapid on the Wind River at 5.7 ft

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Military fabric Watershed bag

Hi Zach, The new Watershed bags also offer a "military/camo" fabric with an upcharge. Can you review that?

Thanks.

Zach's Product Placement

• NRS Hydroskin Pants
• NRS 3mm Outfitter Bill Wetsuit

Links to topics that Zach talked about this episode

• Blossom Bar Blog Post
• River Radius Podcast
• AW Accident Database
• Nature Nicole Blog

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Illinois River Flow Prediction

Do you have a video detailing what you look at guesstimating flows on the Illinois River a week out?

• Illinois River Flow

Topic: Rogue Trip

Hey I'm planning on doing another packraft trip on the Rogue this January. I already have a dry suit, but I am wondering if there's anything I should watch out for? I read on a forum something about a very large tree blocking the river near Mule creek canyon.

Zach's Product Placement

• Check out the Makita Blower Adaptor at River Hardware
• WWTC Flipline Pocket - We just got 10 more back in stock
• Watershed Dry Bags - Watershed just released their new improved fabric that we are really excited about.
• GSI 10" Aluminum Dutch Oven - Tricker to cook with than cast iron, but much lighter weight.

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• Check out the Makita Blower Adaptor at River Hardware
• River Radius Podcast

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: MFS log jams

What are your thoughts regarding the upper MFS log jams come late May 2024? I imagine it's up to mother nature but are there talks of humans removing some/all of the log jams?

Will the forest service adjust private boater permits if they're still there and 'impassible' for rafts wanting to launch at Boundary or will they say 'figure it out' and permit holds will have to launch lower down, such as flying in to Indian? Keep up the great show, Zman.

Topic: Boat Recommendation

First off, I’ve been enjoying your YouTube channel for a while now and taking in every bit I can. Great content!
I know you’ve mentioned how so many people ask you what should I buy, what’s best for me, and the similar types of questions.

Right now I’m boating a 12’ Aire Wave Destroyer with a DRL River Gypsies frame. I need to look for something bigger for my wife and I for day trips and the occasional multi day trips. 14’ cataraft seems to be what I keep coming back to. Now for my question, If you were looking for a “new” 14’ cat and frame what would you look at?

I live in SW Colorado and my home water is the Dolores River so primarily cold shallow water.

Topic: Power Banks Solar

I've resisted this for a while, but I'm coming to the conclusion I need to equip my raft with a power bank and solar array. Ideally I'd like to have both and related gear in a single ammo can.

Have you investigated this/do you have recommendations?

Thanks for your show.

Topic: Wooden Dory - Illinois

Hey, I was looking at Fretwater Boats wooden dory called the doryak. I am a very mediocre boater but have an interest in the Illinois River. Also love floating wooden boats.

As far as I know, there hasn’t been a wooden boat down the illy. The doryak is small, agile and can go down the Grand Canyon, seems like the boat for the illy. What are your thoughts?

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Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Cold Weather Rewarming

On the live show today, you mentioned that you have an upcoming show about cold weather and rewarming. I've started doing SAR work here in Alaska, and I picked up a cool trick for rewarming hypothermic patients that I think is worth sharing. Many of us pack a thermos full of hot tea and an empty platypus water bladder. If our rescue subject is severely hypothermic, the tea goes into the platypus to be placed against their skin for rewarming. Milder patients can drink the tea, and if all goes well with no hypothermia cases, I get a nice cup of tea when I'm back at the car.

Topic: Camping

Hello Zach, I would be interested in a series of how to and best practices based on multi day river camping techniques. It would be great to see how river guides and experienced river users meet the 4 rivers lottery standards for groovers, firepans, garbage transport and dish washing/grey water disposal. I know this may sound simple to someone experienced in these processes but I think the information would be extremely helpful in cutting down on pollution by inexperienced users of these beautiful places. Thanks for all the content and really enjoy the channel.

Topic: Giving Tuesday

As today is Giving Tuesday, and many charities match or even triple contributions, which charities do you think people should consider? I'm asking about river/land conservation of course.

• American Whitewater
• Kalmiopsis Audubon Society
• Kalmiopsis Guides Association

Topic: Low Water Rafting

With in season permits being harder and harder to get, and climate change also effecting river flows, what type and size water craft would you recommend for solo low water, multiday trips? I don't carry a cooler, and I use mostly ultra light backpacking gear. TIA.

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Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Guide Training

I had an amazing time on y’all’s Class III Rowing School on the Rogue this year. Your guides were phenomenal. Can you talk a bit about how you train them on interpersonal skills and how they learn to manage the off-the-river time so well?

Topic: Rafting Shoes

Teva has come out with a new water shoe It is the outflow universal I have used there other shoes in the past which I really liked. These are a combination of the universal sandal and a shoe. I bought a pair they are a great fit. What do think I know your big into shoes?

Topic: Cold Weather Boating

Hey Zach! Love the show I'm hoping to try and not be a fair weather boater this off season, but I don't have any experiece boating in the winter. Is there a checklist or process you go through that is different for cold weather boating? Are there any things a new boater should be aware of that might not be immediatly obvious. Or just tips for how to layer for optimal comfort that you've learned over the years. Your show has been a great asset for accelerating the learning curve of my first few years boating. Keep up the good work! Thanks Matt

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Yeti Bucket

Zach also shows off his new Yeti Bucket and lets us know how it is superior to your traditional bucket.

• Gear Garage Yeti Bucket Review

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Z-Drags

Have you seen this study?

• Kansas State River Rescue Study

Topic: Aire Raft

I saw a one of your videos where you bought an aire 130 D. Do you still have it, how do you like it in general, how do you like it for rowing and for R2ing

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Guides to the Illinois River

This podcast is sponsored by GoRafting.com. Zach has partnered with GoRafting to launch their Illinois River Guidebook.

Zach has already recently published the "Guide's Guide to the Illinois River." It is availiable for purchase as a downloadable PDF on River Hardware.

Here are a couple links to things they talked about:

• Paper about cooler draining
• The Justin Bieber PFD

Questions that Zach covered in the Q&A section of this episode

Topic: Floor Valve Placement

Thinking about putting a floor valve along the left side centered in the middle of my new Maravia. Thoughts or advice?

Topic: Accident on the Rogue

Hello. In light of the recent accident on the Rogue that was reported on AW, I'm hoping Zach will discuss ideas on how to mitigate entrapment risks in and out of a boat.

• American Whitewater Website

Sorry, I don't have a question and I know there are Gear Garage vids that address this, but I'm just thinking that all of us could probably use some reminders on how to keep safe out there. Thank you, Chris

Topic: Trailer Frame

When adding a trailer frame to an oar rig how do you strap down the trailer frame (mostly inquiring about where the trailer frame abuts the oar frame? In pictures I’ve seen it looks like people use one strap which goes through main frame, trailer frame, and D ring.

Topic: Downstream Oar

Downstream Oar Don’t use your downstream oar, do not use your downstream oar. I have heard this many times but when asked how not to use it I got crickets. So I have been working on it. Below is what I have figured out, I was interested in other options. Feel free to skip my example and just explain your technique. In this example I am floating 90* to the current, in shallow water, with my bow facing river right, and I need to move my boat to the right to avoid some kind of obstacle.

With the water being shallow I don’t want to use my downstream oar. Using my upstream oar (right oar) I slightly pullback causing the stern of the boat to catch the current a little more than the bow. Putting me around 80* to the current. Now I am able to push with my upstream oar to ferry across the river. I have to pay attention that I don’t push so hard that I change the angle of the boat. If I mess up the angle it can always be adjusted using the upstream oar. This works pulling or pushing. Like most moves the earlier you can setup the better. On a side note what do you think the Owyhee will be flowing on May 21st ? Thanks

Topic: Certified

Hey Zach, I’ve been a follower of Gear Garage for a long time. I really enjoy your content, live shows, and all the other stuff. I have a comment or maybe a content idea for discussion. In one of your recent gear garage live question shows, you made a comment within one of the questions about certification. I really liked the idea what you said with regards to the idea of what it means to be “certified”. I believe the person asking the question deemed themselves to be swift-water certified, and your response was detailing that they actually just received a certificate for completing the course. I hope that rings a bell for you.

I’m certainly not an expert or certified in any modality of whitewater, but I definitely do agree with you on this statement. Over the past years I have taken several rowing and swiftwater rescue courses, but I have never actually been part of a real life rescue situation. Hopefully, partially due to the risk evaluation process I learned in these courses. Going back to what stuck out to me from the question in the show, was the person’s inherent or at least seemingly inherent willingness to take risk because they were indeed rescue trained. Certainly there are different degrees of this with regards to each individual and their own experience level.

Where it peaked my interest for discussion, was the part where they were asking the question, if it was ok because they were swiftwater certified. My thoughts were, “ok then, why are you asking the question, if you already know it’s dangerous.” Which leads to believe that there is a possible disconnect between this idea of what it is certified. How potentially just taking a class gives someone a false impression of qualification. Hope this is somewhat clear to you what I’m trying to say. Thanks for taking your time to read this. Ben

Topic: COLD Gates of Lodore

I'm running Gates of Lodore this weekend and the forecast is extremely cold. The average high temp is around 40, the average low is around 20. I have a drysuit, but I'm still worried I'll be miserable even with all my layers. What tips do you have for keeping warm on a cold multiday like this?

Topic: Palm Gear in the US

Hey Zach! I bought my first waist throwbag this past season - a RiverStation Rapid Pack - and sadly I was not super happy with the specs. I've been looking for something with a wider mouth for easier stuffing and a thicker diameter rope to make it a bit nicer to grab for lining boats and rescues. After searching for a while I found what I was looking for in Palm's 20m Pro throwline paired with their Quick Pro Belt.

However, I have had a hard time finding a domestic retailer or an overseas retailer that will ship to me in California. I am wondering how you got your gear from Palm, or any other insights you have on the topic! Thanks! Your channel has been a big part of fueling my passion for whitewater over the past few years! Keep doing what you're doing!

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Zach discusses his latest blog post on Whitewater Guidebook on California Rowing Progression.

Zach discusses options for cataraft frames and sizes.

• The Hyside Nimbus Cat Frame is one of Zach's favorite frames.
• DRL Cataraft Frames has great availiablilty.
• Go Light Outdoors has a lightweight breakdown frame that is an excellent option if you are looking to fly with your boat.